73: Ghosts and Spirits (Hour 1)
29 Jan 2026 · 36 min
Summer McStravick explores ghosts, spirits, and astral realms with listener calls from Colleen and Jerry. She shares personal stories from Antwerp and a haunted house, plus practical advice on setting energetic boundaries for Halloween.
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Welcome to Flow dreaming with Summer McStravik.
Thank you for joining me today in honor of our upcoming Halloween holiday. I must say this is one of my favorite holidays of the year. I thought I'd do a show today about something that I consider a fun topic, something that I consider sort of a lighter topic, which is ghosts and spirits and some of those other energies that travel around out there in the world around us, in the universe around us. And I consider it a fun show because, you know, I know. I know confidently within myself that your soul can never be taken over. Your soul can never be erased. And that is, I think, the core fear of people when it comes to looking at things that they feel are evil or frightening or, you know, something along that nature that ultimately they feel my soul will be stolen, erased, and I will be obliterated. Well, if you can remove that feeling and you understand that feeling, and you know that that is no longer the truth, then really, all those other things out there are just mere annoyances or mere curiosities or, you know, you can see things happening that you might not like happening to other people who aren't so aware as yourself. But, you know, look at it this way again. Think, think again. Go back to our classic mythology. And the reason I say this is because, you know, if Christianity doesn't even acknowledge that the soul can be erased, then certainly from, you know, flow perspective, from the other, you know, great world religions, you know, it just. It just can't be. It just cannot be. And here is even what Christianity does. They say the devil can take your soul and can capture it and in essence, put it in jail, in hell, so to speak. But the devil can't do anything more than that. It's not like it can just erase it and make it cease to be. Well, why not? Why not? Now, of course, you know, from the way I'm saying this, you recognize I don't believe that there is a devil that will be doing anything, anything of that nature at all. But from a flow perspective, what I'm saying is your soul cannot be captured. It cannot be erased. Once something is known, it is never, ever unknown. That is part of the underlying consciousness of life, of the universe, of the flow. Once God experiences itself and has a knowledge of something about itself, it can never be unknown again. And as you are acting as this little figment, this little tiny piece, this little fingernail of God, this little experience of flow, this little experience of life collecting all of these experiences, they can never be unknown again. It's not as if they can be erased or taken away. Your consciousness, your mind, your who you are, ness can, cannot be taken away. So this immediately relegates all these things that are evil or bad or, you know, you know, creeping around. It just makes them more curiosities. Remember, it's just somebody else's experience. It's just some other kind of energy experience. But it can have nothing to do with you whatsoever. And now let's think about this. We talked about how energy exchanges are consensual. And that is how, you know, people sometimes get involved with things that are of low energies. And I will actually say, yes, that is true, because, well, I'll let you in on a little secret. My whole life I've had sort of a tendency to catch sight of things, to see things. And it just. It happens here and there, not usually when I'm looking for it, you know, I can think of something strange that occurred to me maybe six months, eight months ago, or it may be a bit longer. I was sitting with my mom at her. Her home in the mountains. We were sitting around her kitchen table, and I flashed on this being in a white cloak. And it was all in a glowing white cloak with a white hood. And I had the sense of very high, very, very strong, very high power. And I said to her, this is strange, but you have someone here, you have this energy here. And I described to her what it looked like. I said, this a male energy, very strong and very high. And this is going to be someone who guides you, who's part of you, who's somehow in your life right now. And we talked about what that meant, and I sensed that there was another energy as well. But it was this main one that was so, you know, it really took me back because it was of such a high and fine level. I thought, wow, you know, I'm. You know, I felt blessed just to be in this presence, that it was such a divine level, you know, higher than anything you would normally encounter. You know, higher than a. Maybe you'd say your angel would be or whatever. And, you know, that was just a recent experience that I have had. But I remember when I was younger, particularly when I was a teenager, there were times when I felt things that were not so great, that were not, you know, not on the up and up, lower energy. And that's when I first started to learn that, you know, of course, teenagers, they have a lot of energy within themselves. It's. It's often more chaotic, you know, that young men often have the poltergeist phenomena around Them, because they have chaotic energy fields as they move, you know, transition through puberty. And so they attract certain kinds of energies as a result. Well, girls are the same way, of course, as teenagers. And I remember there were times when I had, you know, felt strange things that were not right. And I worked at that point. That was the earliest point I began working on how to push things away or how to turn off energy spigots. Well, let me tell you about another experience. As long as we're talking about, you know, seeing spirits and little ghost stories and things. I remember a time when I was traveling through Europe. I've been to Europe a number of times, and in this particular time, I was in Antwerp in Belgium, staying in a very, very, very old building, hundreds of years old. And I woke. It was late at night. It was. It was around midnight, 11. 11 or 12, not too late, I guess. But I woke up to this feeling of absolute and pure. I can't say anything else. It was evil. It was bone chilling. And I had a sensation of something had passed me by. Something had passed me by. And it was just, you know, I felt it right into the core of me. And it was not a dream. It was a true and a real sensation. And it, you know, I felt very lucky. I felt like who? You know, boy, I'm glad I wasn't in the radar of whatever that was. And to this day, I don't know what that was, but it was a sensation and it was a feeling and I knew it to be. Now, what all this leads me to understand and to believe is there are other layers of energies out there, all kinds of energies out there expressing themselves, experience them themselves. And some of them we put labels on. We label them as good, we label them as loving. And others we label as bad, as evil, as disruptive. Well, let's talk for a moment about this nature of evil. What does evil really mean to us? Evil means it causes suffering. Ultimately, that is evil. It causes suffering. In fact, if you remove that phrase, it causes suffering from this idea of an evil energy. What do you have left? Nothing, really. I mean, maybe something that feels low or sad or, you know, go ahead, try. Think up some. Think of some other adjectives you could apply onto it. Maybe sad, maybe melancholy, maybe angry. But, but, but if it's angry, but it can't cause any suffering. It can't destroy anything. It can't hurt you. It can't, you know, then it's just anger, you know, and everybody's dealt with anger before. So really, what is evil? Evil is that which causes suffering. And if you look at it from that perspective, it's just some sort of energy that causes suffering. You can say I choose not to have suffering. I choose not to allow the energy of suffering to interact with my own energy. My own energy is not receiving that. There's no two way current happening here. So sometimes we find that we go places and we feel what feels like an evil energy or a spirit or something along that nature. Well, there's something else involved with this and that is called place energy. Now when you go places here, I'm going to give you another example from my life. I have many of these. I can just pull out of my long experience with all these feelings and energies. There was a time when one of my relatives purchased a house that they were going to fix up and sell cell. And I was, oh, what was I, maybe 10 or 11, maybe 12 at the time. And I remember I was there one weekend when they were fixing it up. And I walked in the house and I felt this crushing sensation, this feeling of absolute horrible heaviness. And I thought, oh, there is something really wrong with this house. There is just something not right. It was so sad. I mean, it was just such a sad, sad, sad feeling. And later on I talked to the person who owned the house. I said, what happened here? You know what I mean? It just feels horrible. I said, can I sit outside? Can I wait outside? And this person told me that the reason they were able to pick up the house on such a cheap price to fix it up and resell it was that the prior occupant had committed suicide in there recently. And that's why the house was sort of on the market. You know, kind of get it off the hands type situation. That house had imprinted the feeling of the sadness and the melancholy and the despair from the prior occupant. Now that person was no longer there. That energy of the person had departed, but the house's energy had kept that feeling, had taken that feeling on and that is what was going on there. The house had imprinted with that energy, which is often, incidentally what psychics pick up when they go to places that are haunted. There's not a person there any longer, but the feeling, the situation, the energy of it had become embedded in the energy structure of the place. Anyway, I hope this is fascinating for you. I have so much more to talk about, but I'm going to get some of your calls, I want to hear some of your stories. So we'll come back and talk right after this. I'm Summer, and we are Flow Dream.
Welcome to Flow dreaming with Summer McStravik.
And welcome back to Flow Dreaming. We're having a fun time today. We're talking about ghosts and spirits and giving you a different perspective on them from the realm of energy, from the perspective that everything around us is made from energy, including ourselves. Things can be manifested, they can be unmanifested. And teaching you how you can view ghosts, how you can view spirits from a. From a level that lets you be and stay in control of your life and of yourself. You know, you can sort of observe things out there. You can be aware and knowledgeable of them without having to have direct interaction with them. And, you know, sometimes we do get impressions or see or feel things, but, you know, all those horror stories you hear about ghosts and, you know, things coming to get you and take you and nab you. I guess one of the primary reasons I'm doing this show today is to make you understand that that is something you don't have to worry about. That is something you don't have to be fearful of. You know, this whole idea is sort of popular that some astral energy, some bad thing is now clinging on to you and you can't shake it. Well, perhaps, you know, I have seen, I have seen cases here and there very, very, very rarely where people, and I often have to say these are. These have been, you know, mostly drug related cases where people who have been involved with drugs have opened their energy to such a point, they've opened their flow to where, you know, they just accept anything, anything that rolls their way. There's no screening process going on anymore because obviously the person is sort of, you know, out of control with their, with their addiction. And what occurs is, you know, the byproduct is that energetically they're also out of control. And then what they get is they get all the slop in the universe. All the stuff that's out there just comes and Moses along and says, hey, let's hang out together. And, you know, you can get some very low energy, some very yucky stuff in that case. But once that's recognized, you know, once that's recognized, it's just a matter of closing off the spigot of saying, I don't accept this anymore. I raised my energy, I change my energy. I'm no longer a match, I'm no longer a fit. You know, sometimes when we have people in our lives who have troubles like that, they bring that into our homes, they bring that into our houses and Then we end up having to deal with that. Not just the person on a physical basis, but all the non physical energy that they carry with them. That's why we have to be very cautious about the people that we have living with us, the people that we have around us. You know, help people without allowing your own self to be so drawn down by whatever it is they bring in. It's a delicate balance. And you know, I know some of you listening may be thinking, right now, I've got to think about this, you know, how much am I really helping by exposing myself to this? Because then again, you know, I'm having to fight two fights to two battles. The energy battle of constantly shutting off and you know, turning away that low energy that the person is bringing in. And then the person themselves and all their erratic and strange behavior. Oh, that was another aside. I'm thinking that before we move any forward with more information about ghosts and spirits, I'll take a call or two. However, one thing I just remembered during our, during our break was this about the house I was telling you about. The house of course, did not sell well. Can you imagine why? So the whole real estate turnaround, make a bundle of money idea kind of fell flat on its face. The person had to end up renting the house in order to cover the mortgage and the renters moved out. Why did they move out? Because they said the house was haunted. Fascinating, fascinating story. Eventually the house was sold not for any spectacular profit, but again, that house did not have good energy, it had bad place energy. It was never cleared, it was never, the energy was never removed from it, you know, or disassociated or cleaned up, if you will. And I do think that that can happen. And we'll talk more about why that happens. We'll talk about the astral realm, the so called astral realm, which I also just look at as simply more layers of energy out there. You know, moving from the physical into the deeper non physical layers of energy. Going of course way to pure source, which is pure consciousness, pure light energy. Many, many fine gradations and levels out there. And that's what makes it so fascinating and so interesting. I haven't mentioned this whole show, by the way. I have a new CD out called Flow Dreaming for Spiritual Progress. This is a great cd. I have to have to tell you, and I can tell by the way Amazon has been ordering these things that many of you are enjoying it because what it does is there are two tracks on there. One of them is to help you meet some of Your finer and higher spiritual energy guides. You might call them angels, you might call it your greater self, the higher self. Those energies that are there to help you and guide you and sort of direct you towards all the best things in your life. You can do a Flow dream to reach out and get in contact with that energy and to start to develop a real relationship, to ask questions and to receive answers. There's also another flow dream on the CD which is to help you find your life's purpose. Help you find that direction that will give you the greatest fulfillment in your life. That's really what I mean by life's purpose, finding the greatest fulfillment inside yourself. Anyway, go check that out on Amazon. They will be available soon on flow dreaming.com we're still trying to get the, get the CDs up on the site, but there's others there that you can listen to. In fact, if you go to flowdreaming.com, you can actually hear samples. You can hear 30 second one minute clips right off, right off these CDs so you know exactly what it is, what it sounds like. Amazon doesn't have that capability. So you know, go, go both places and I hope you enjoy yourself there. Of course. Email me summerlowdreaming.com love to hear what you have to say about the Flow and anything that comes to mind about my shows. I very much enjoy your feedback. Let us go now to Colleen, she's from St. George, Utah. Colleen, welcome to our program today.
Good morning.
Hi. How are you?
Real good. I was in the bathroom this morning when my family said they were leaving for work. So I thought I'd walk them out to the front of the house and say goodbye. And anyway, when I came back in the house, my toothpaste with my toothpaste was back on the floor and no one was in the house. I thought, how strange is that? I thought, well, maybe somebody's trying to watch over me. Kind of wild spirit. Since my husband and I have been going have an investment gone for about several years now and we thought, well, maybe this is some kind of sign someone's watching over us.
Uh huh.
Maybe this investment will finally happen or something.
Well, you know, I don't really take leaps like that in my thinking necessarily. But you know, if you have something that's sort of moved or you know, you think. So your idea is that you think you've been visited by some sort of spirit that's trying to communicate something to you.
I have a feeling that maybe my dad was there trying to.
Yeah. It's. Well, you know what? I have not really had that many experiences with spirits moving things affecting our physical energy, but I would not rule it out exclusively. Yeah.
Oh, my gosh. I mean, it was just totally standing straight up. Nothing had been touched.
Yeah.
I mean, come on.
Well, Colleen, you know what? Look for more. If you're. If you're uncertain at all, look for more validation. You can certainly, if you do that, what you're doing is you're opening your energy exchange. You're saying, I'm looking for more validation, therefore I will accept it when it happens. And you're sort of opening the door for more spirit communication that way. As long as you feel good about it.
I do. I feel fine about it.
Good. Well, if it's your dad, of course you would. Colleen, thanks for your call and for sharing with that great story with us.
Keep it up. It's wonderful.
Oh, great, Colleen, thanks so much.
Thank you. Bye Bye.
You thank.
By now, Colleen reminds me for a while, my grandmother had a spirit. We believe it was a spirit living in the upstairs of her old converted farmhouse, one of the oldest houses that is in the small town where she lives. And that spirit was around doing things, moving things, placing keys in strange places for quite a while until they remodeled the upstairs. And what happened at that point is the spirit simply vanished or whatever sort of energy was there. Now, when we say spirit, when I say spirit, I want you to just make a little translation in your mind to somebody's conscious energy. Some sort of mind field. Mind field, not mind field, no mind. Some sort of mental energy. Some sort of self aware energy may just be sort of moving around, moving through the energies. You know, I've had another strange. Another strange thing happened. There have been periods where I've seen many cats in my life and I will go through seeing cats just about everywhere. Corner of my eye, Cats here, cats there, cats everywhere. I still puzzle through that one. Why do I suddenly. I feel like sometimes I get in the middle of the road of the. Of the cat hotel. And this is only really been happening since I moved to my current place. And I don't know why it's become such a central point for cats. Oh, and that does remind me, thank you to all of you who emailed me about my own kitty, who, as I explained last weekend, he did pass on after 15 years with me. And that was. Boy, tough, tough week. I've lost two of my old kitties in the last few months and I know that they're meeting up again and sharing their energies with one another, experiencing each other once again out there on these deeper levels that they've never really gone any place, just the physical expression of them sort of winked out, if you will. So I don't know where I threw that in about cats. Maybe some of you have had a strange experience like that, too. You know, I can't say I understand everything, but so much of it does make sense if you look at it from this this energy flow perspective. More of your interesting calls. I see some more people have called in to share their experiences with spirits and ghosties. We'll get back to those as soon as I get back from this break. I'm Summer Mixed Traffic and we're Flow Dreaming.
Welcome to Flow dreaming with Summer McStravik.
Welcome back. Flow Dreaming this hour together. And and yeah, I've just gotten so caught up in this topic, I have completely forgotten all of my host duties, reminding you of things, giving you the latest news. So let me get caught up on that. October 27th through the 29th, we are going to be in Orlando, Florida. That means we're going to be at the I Can do it conference. I'll be broadcasting live throughout the weekend. I encourage you to tune in Friday, Saturday and Sunday. I'll be doing half an hour interviews with many of the keynote speakers and the workshop leaders, asking them, you know, to give us a preview of their workshop. What are they talking about? What are they doing there? How are they enjoying the conference? I've got interviews set up right now with some really interesting people. Got Suze Orman, many of you know her. She has the financial show on television. Got some questions for her about getting our finances together. Especially, especially for women. Things that we need to know. Also have T. Harv Eker, he wrote, of course, secrets of the Millionaire Mind. Maybe he'll shed some light in how you can use your mind to manifest wealth, which is one of my favorite topics of all. Wayne Dyer, I have a whole hour planned to talk with Sylvia Brown, asking her questions. Maybe she'll give us some information about the Halloween coming up. Maybe she's got some things to say on ghosts and spirits and that sort of thing. I'd be curious to know what her perspective is. Doreen Virtue and more. So please do tune in. You can fact you can go to the heyhouseradio.com website right now, look in the schedule for the weekend or look under Premier broadcasts and you'll see that there's a live broadcast scheduled and you can get sort of an itinerary or a schedule that's what I mean to say of what's going to be going on. Also today we're going to be doing the fall free for all giveaway, which is qualifying those people I bring on air from here on out to receive a free pair of tickets to any Hay House November or December live event. So if you get on air with me today, I ask you to see, stick around after I let you go on the call, because our call screener will come back and get your information so that you can qualify for a free drawing for. Excuse me, not a free drawing. Well, it is a free drawing, but a drawing for free tickets to any of our Hay House November, December live events. Again, that is for two tickets. And lastly, I'd love to share with you something, an email I received. As you know, I've been doing some very limited tele classes for bringing in wealth and money into your life because it's something that's particularly easy to do, is to manifest wealth. Manifest money. It's something that really gets a lot of people going on the whole road towards manifesting. And of course, once you get going on it, you may have started for something as simple as money or as worldly as money, should I say, but you'll rapidly find that your interests. And once you realize that things start moving and really happening and shaking in your life, you move from money onto many of the other, you know, more interesting and difficult topics, relationships and, you know, all kinds of other deeper levels of things. You know, you learn how to become a true manifester, a true magician in your life. And that's when it really becomes a whole fascinating study, a whole fascinating exploration. Money is just the tip of the iceberg, but nonetheless, money's a good start. So I have some teleclasses that I offer. We've only got two more scheduled at this moment. Both of them include Venus Andrecht, My mother, she's also a fantastic manifestor. She has, you know, some people just have pools of energy in them in certain, in certain ways. Some people are just born healers. I'm thinking of my grandmother in particular, and some people like my mother and myself, we just have a lot of this raw sort of power, I guess you could say this raw energy in us. And we found that manifesting is, you know, just the ripest talent that we found for, you know, where to put this. So we do these teleconferences, these teleclasses, where we actually guide people through a flow dream and we bring in some of our own manifesting energy to really get things moving. Well, here is something that one of our attendees in last weekend's class sent to me. She writes, dear Summer in Venus, last Saturday's session was a wonderful experience. On Monday morning, I was offered $10,000 to relocate to Florida at the end of the year. It was a pleasant surprise. She says, I'm very grateful I found the two of you. I love Hay House Radio. Keep up the good work. Well, thank you so much. I'm going to keep your name anonymous, but nonetheless, just wanted to report in that we did our class together on Saturday and this is what occurred for her on Monday. So I'm very excited to hear that for her. I think it's wonderful. For those of you interested in our classes, you can go to flowdreaming.com you'll see that as we go into the holidays. You know, we've only got. I said two. Two left. In fact, the one that's coming up on November 14th, I think we've only got two spots left. I keep the class size limited so we can get to everybody. And we have one more planned for December 8th. I think that would be a great one for. Or. Excuse me, did I say the 8th? I should have said December 9th. That would be a great one because, you know, we could all use extra cash, extra money for the holidays. So all those things. Go to flowdreaming.com for more information about that. Well, I think it's time for us to go to another one of our callers. How about Jerry from Rockport, Indiana? Jerry, welcome to the program, Jerry.
Jerry, I'm so glad to talk to you.
Me, too. Talk to you.
Well, listen, I just want to tell you how much I appreciate Hay House Radio and you and for you writing Flow Dreaming.
Thank you.
I do Flow Dream. And I just want to tell you that it just seems like that noticing all these little miracles that happen in everyday life, little things that. That you don't normally think of, but it's like I'm thinking of something I'm wanting and I kind of forget about it. And all of a sudden, somehow it appears.
Mm.
Whether it's. I walk into a store and an art. In fact, that happened to me yesterday, an article of clothing that I had been thinking, gee, I would really like to have that article of clothing. And I just happened to walk in a store and there it was, and it was on sale.
Wow.
I mean, I'm really into this.
You know what happens? What a lot of people find is as they become involved with this, it's like they Sort of clear out their energy. You know, it's the process of becoming more aware of yourself as a creator tends to sort of clean out, in a way, your energy field so that these things flow in easier to you. And that's where you start to notice all these little things sort of coming in and out, you know, this sort of instant manifestation of your desires. You put the idea out there, and it's like. It's like. Imagine if you're trying to push through energy in a cluttered, you know, hallway. You know, the hallway is filled up with, you know, junk. You know, your old trash bags and toys and bikes and, you know, clothes or whatever. You know, you try to push energy through that, and it's sort of, you know, it gets through, but it's. It's tougher. It's. It's more blocked. But as you become aware of yourself as a real manifester, as you become comfortable with the idea, it's like your hallway gets cleaned out. And those little things that come to your mind, they just whoosh. They just go right out there and they just immediately start happening for you. The blocks of are let go. You know, the blocks let go and sort of loosen up. And it sounds like that's what's happening with you, Jerry.
Oh, it's just wonderful. I just feel a higher level level of energy daily. I. It's like my health is better and I. You know, I can't attribute it to any other thing, but it's like I'm at the right place at the right time. I don't know how else.
That is the absolute. That is a perfect summation of the flow. That is what it's meant to be. You'll find you. After a while, you stop saying, oh, this can't be coincidence any longer. The right place, the right time, synchronicity, coincidence, it's. It's very powerful thing. And once you snap into your flow and it sounds like that's exactly what you've done, things just line up the way they should be lining up.
Well, it really works, and I highly recommend it to everybody. You know, that I'm telling all my friends, and we're all flow dreaming. It's wonderful.
Now, you didn't have a question, did you? You just wanted to share that with me.
That's right. I don't have a question because it's just working so wonderful.
I just want to thank you so much, Jerry. Tell you what, I'll still pull a card from my own personal little deck here.
Thank you.
It says here, boop boop, boop, boop. It says health. So did you say that your health was feeling better because your health is figuring prominently in your flow right now?
Oh, I just. Yes, I feel wonderful.
Wonderful. Okay, that's the main card. So I pulled up a second one, and it's called physical work. Plunge in your hands and get to work. You need physical action right now. You have what you need to do the job in front of you. Payoff will come when you start putting in daily effort. So what this is saying is you have. You have sort of opened up and cleared things out. Now to get the maximum benefit, you need to work both sides of the coin. You need to start taking those opportunities and maxing them out, taking whatever the flow is bringing to you and plunging your hands in and just grabbing it and going for it. And that's how you're really going to start to continue to rev things forward.
Oh, wonderful.
All right, Jerry, take care. Thanks for your call. Love it. Love, love, love it. And we're going to be going to a break soon, but I do have. I see you know who's on the line? Beth. Beth, I got your email, and I was actually going to read it on air, and I'm sure you're the same Beth, so you stay with me because I think I'm going to take your call after we get back from this. I know you. Sounds like you had a question from your email, at least about what is the flow. You've listened to all the archives, you've tried it out, and you're still confused. If you're the same Beth, I'm going to be taking your call. Well, even if you're not the same Beth, I'm still taking your call. Stay with me. We'll be talking more about ghosties and spirits as well as just plain old getting in the flow. I'm Summer McStravik. Please stay with me.
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