73: Ghosts and Spirits (Hour 2)
29 Jan 2026 · 41 min
Summer McStravick teaches flow dreaming, a manifesting technique using imagery and emotion, while taking caller stories about ghosts and spirits. A four-year-old is afraid of ghosts; another caller describes seeing death angels before illness. McStravick offers protective visualizations and explains how to contextualize these experiences.
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With Summer McStravik. And welcome to Flow Dreaming. I'm Summer McStravik. Today we're talking about ghosts and spirits and all kinds of other energies that are in those deeper layers of the energy world that we all inhabit. Absolutely true, absolutely valid. We do occupy an energy world. This physical world we around us is sort of illusionary, really. It is, because it only looks solid. It only looks real because we are in a perspective where we are level with it. If you were to metaphorically draw back or hone in, say for you, look deep, deep, deep in what you would immediately see. Around you are swirling balls, swirling masses of electrical energy and other energy, atomic energy, atoms, molecules, quarks, quantum data, all swirling and moving and, and coalescing together into the objects and, and the items and the things that you see around you. That is the true world that we live in. It just appears to be solid because that is the point on the line, I guess you could say, where we are viewing it from where it appears to be solid. But if you were to shift your consciousness in any direction, you would find that the world around you is not so solid after all. Well, what happens on those other levels? What happens deeper in. Who's the one who sets up what things are going to be solid around us? Who's the one who sets up the events, the experiences, all the stuff that happens in our lives? A principle behind flow thinking is that the person who sets up all this stuff is you. It's you, my dear. You are the creator, you are the consciousness. You are the manifester, you are the person, the being, the consciousness at the deepest, deepest root, at the core of reality, your mind and yourself, your deeper levels, your deep will let your deeper layers of yourself are existing on that level as well as your physical level. See, you are an expansive being. You aren't just sort of dropped in, you know, get rid of the classic idea. You're not just dropped in, in to your physical body like this, like a ship stuffed into a bottle. No, no, no, no, not at all. Your body, your being, the essence of who you are. Your mind inhabits the physical body like a little walking shell, like a little walking puppet. But this rest of it, you know, imagine it just sort of expanding outward from your body right now into these deeper and deeper layers. It's like just this little tiny pinky of itself is stuck in this little bottle of yours, this little body of yours. And it's that part that's acting and thinking that you are the be all, end all of everything but the Deeper layers of yourself, these deeper energy levels of yourself. That's where a lot of the real action is going on. That is where things are being set up in your life. That's where the deeper agreements are being made right now. This shall flow into my life. That shall flow out of my life. You're making energy agreements right now with people around you, with situations around you. Yes. Later on, I'm going to have this interaction. Then I'm going to have that interaction. And as I think these thoughts, I'm continuing to program and to intercept and, you know, put energy into and take energy out of these deeper levels that are coordinating and guiding my day. So when we are manifesting, we are going into these deeper levels consciously. Consciously, as opposed to the unconscious communication that we always have with these deeper parts of ourselves that guide and set up and create our day and our week and our month and our year and our life. And in these deeper energies, remember, they are moving, they are traveling. They have a trajectory all their own. Just like every planet has its own trajectory around the sun. Everything has its trajectory. The planets have their movement. The comets have their movement. Every asteroid is trapped in its own orbit of being. Your life is in its own orbit of being, its own direction. It's moving towards ease and towards grace. Nothing is out there happening in, you know, trying to force itself through obstacles and go backwards. I mean, really now, the Earth doesn't break out of its orbit and smash into a bunch of planets before coming back into its orbit again. You know, that would. That would mean that the Earth is having some sort of conscious mind saying, I think I know better than this. I'm tired of traveling around the sun. I think I'm going to try and take over here, and I'm going to just really royally mess things up. No, we're the only ones who have that privilege because it's part of our experience. Experience. It's part of what makes it so interesting for us. It's part of the deal we set up to have for ourselves this conscious control. It makes things fun and it creates greater levels of awareness of self. And I believe that that is one of the primary objectives for our experience. To understand ourselves and to have experiences on a deeper level. Oh. Oh, my goodness. Let us get back to ghosties and spirits. And let us. Before we do that even, we'll go to Beth in Alexandria, Virginia. Beth, did you hear me talking about you already?
Yes, I did.
Are you the same Beth? Did you email me, dad?
And the same one.
I knew it. Yay. I was betting on that. You were betting? Yeah.
There's not too many of us, Beth, out here.
All right, Beth, why don't you tell. Why don't you tell everyone listening right now what it is that's going on with you and your flow or your. Or your understanding or misunderstanding?
I'm trying to figure out, I guess, what it is. Is it more what happens when I meditate and try and focus on improvement or listening or, you know, doing affirmations? Or is it something that just. I mean, okay, you're always hearing, go with the flow, and, yes, do this. So if, you know, I'm going, so what is it?
Okay, Beth, now you haven't read the book, right?
No, I have.
You need to find that book. You can even try and find out at a library if you can't afford it. Otherwise, you can find it at Hay House.
Not at the library. Books. The library.
Because of reasons why.
Oh, okay.
So I just. I mean, if it's not the library.
Well, then you'll have to order it. I'm sorry. Well, then, here, let me give you a nutshell, because I think this is good for a lot of people listening who are new listeners. Now, when I talk about the flow, I'm really talking about two different things, really. One of them is a technique that I specifically label flow dreaming. The other one is the flow philosophy. And what happened for me in my life is I started doing this thing called flow dreaming that I sort of stumbled into. And it was a sort of a progression, a natural progression of many different disciplines I had been working on and studying throughout my life. They all came together one day, and I believe I was sort of divinely guided toward this because it came to me and my family, and from there it sprang out into the greater universe. It was like something that was meant to occur and to be shared. And therefore, I just happened to be the one who was the conduit for it to sort of come out there initially. Now, once I started doing this technique, I realized there were many, many, many deeper ramifications to what I was doing. And I tried to find out, why does this work and what is it? And that's where the whole philosophy of flow thinking sort of built up behind it. So if you go back and listen to some of the earliest radio shows here that we've got archived on hayhouseradio.com, you'll hear me talking more specifically about the technique. And as the, you know, the years have progressed, I talk more and more now about flow thinking and how to apply Just about anything in your life, anything in our world to this way of looking at things. So let us go back for a moment to the specific technique. Now, flow dreaming is a method for manifesting principally. And what it does is it combines several different disciplines, but it's not exactly any of them. And that's why it can be sort of confusing and different at first. Sometimes it feels a little bit like hypnosis, but it's not hypnosis because you are in conscious control the entire time. Your conscious mind is active and aware and is directing you and guiding you, guiding you and creating for you. So you're not just blanking out your conscious to go right to the subconscious, the unconscious, as you would do with hypnosis or self hypnosis. Well, it's also kind of like meditation and that you are moving into an altered state. However, it's different than meditation because you are not clearing your mind, you are engaging your mind actively. However, the process does activate some of the same mental states that you would find in the deeper levels of meditation. It's also not quite daydreaming because in daydreaming you sort of lose your focus and you get lost in thought and then you snap back and you realize, you know, oh, where am I? What am I doing? So sometimes I refer to it a bit as conscious daydreaming because you are directing yourself.
Oh, I do that a lot.
It's aha. Yeah, it's also, I'm in my own little world. Well, that's good. I'm a fan of daydreaming. And it also can feel a little bit like. A little bit like prayer because you are asking and creating. Except exception is you're not asking with conditions. You're not saying, if I'm good enough, please bring me this. Instead, you are affirming, you are asserting, you are pre programming. It has a couple other classic aspects to it where you are supposed to bring in all of your emotion into this state because your emotion is sort of a catalystic kind of energy that really coalesces and brings all these other parts of it together. And lastly, a key element is that you actually move into this place in your mind that you create. You. You metaphorically design this feeling or this world for yourself where you recognize you're going into this underpinning of reality. Okay, now that I've said all that, you're probably more confused than ever. So when we get back from this break, I'm going to lead you through a little bit of the process of flow dreaming itself. All right, Beth. Well, so you'll stay with me and do it with me? Oh, I wish I can, honey, but.
I gotta go pick up a kid.
Oh, you've gotta go. Oh, Beth, listen to the archive. All right, well, Beth, listen, I'll do it. I. You know what? I'll do it, and you listen to the archive later. Welcome to Flow dreaming with Summer McStravik. Welcome back. We're Flow Dreaming together this hour, and I was just speaking with Beth before we went to the break. Unfortunately, she had to go go pick up her kids. But, Beth, I was giving you just a brief overview of sort of how flow dreaming can sort of mimic the technique, sort of mimic some of these other processes, but it is exactly like none of them because it is a single synthesis of all of these processes. And I was going to tell you about an example that we'll do together. And I hope you'll be able to go back and listen to the archive of this show. In fact, there are many, many archives you can find on hayhouseradio.com right now. I think we're 70, 80 hours. We're really starting to climb up there. Many, many shows. A good one for beginners is August 29th. That gives you the technique for manifesting, and really that is the open door for most people to sort of this work. Because once you realize that you can manifest, once you realize you're able to sort of manipulate your reality this way, then it really sets you off on a quest. You can't help it. You say, well, if I can do this calls into question many of the other things that I believe or believed in. And that's where you start to get into the deeper levels of flow thinking and start applying that to your life. So, Beth, here's what we're going to do. And I know you're. You're having to go, but for those of you who are listening, here's what we're going to do together. When you are flow dreaming, the most important thing to do is you get yourself in a relaxed state. Relaxed but not sleepy. So you don't necessarily want to lie down. The idea is that you don't want to fall asleep. You want to keep yourself engaged and mentally with it. So you might want to sit in a chair with your eyes closed or someplace where you're not going to just, you know, nod off. Now, this is more important for those of you who are listening to the CDs as opposed to doing it yourself without the CDs. Now you can flow dream on your own which means you just close your eyes, you just, you just guide yourself, you direct yourself, you create yourself on the fly, whatever situation you have in front of you. Or you can, you can go along with the CDs of pre recorded Flow Dreams which I have created and put up on my website. Now, the CDs are very good if you're getting started or if you want to just devote all of your time to really feeling it and making it as opposed to having to sort of direct the storyline. In other words, you know, when you're getting out there, you're, you're really asking a lot of your mind because not only are you telling it what to see and feel and think, but you're having to think ahead a little bit. You know, here's what you're going to do next, here's what you're going to see next, here's what you're going to feel next. The CDs allow you to follow along and be told what to do. So you can put all of your energy strictly on the manifesting itself. Those CDs are at Hay House. Excuse me. No, they're not. Hayhouse.com. they're@flow dreaming.com or, or at Amazon or. Unfortunately, they're not going to be at your local bookstores. We don't have a distributor for them here in the United States. So you'll need to get them online somehow. Anyway, so what we're going to do when we flow dream is we close our eyes and get into a relaxed state and then we tell our mind. Okay, mind, I'm going to give you something to do. I'm going to let you go off and have a little fantasy, have a little daydream. However, you can't get lost, you can't go astray. I can't stop paying attention and drift away like I would normally do in a daydream and snap back to attention later. No, the whole time, mind, I'm going to be telling you what to see and feel and think. And I'm going to power it up. I'm going to give it lots of juice, lots of currency by bringing my emotions up and really feeling it. And I realized that as I'm doing this, I'm consciously aware that I am actually pre programming my reality to be what I want it to be. In other words, I recognize that in my life all kinds of events are currently being set up to take place from what I'm going to do two minutes from now to what I'm going to do two hours from now to what I'm going to do two weeks or two months or two years from now. All of these situations have to be developed energetically before they sort of sprout out into our physical realm, into our physical world. Energetic agreements have to be made. Well, a metaphor for you to use to understand how these energy agreements are made is of the flow. Your life is a flowing river of energy. See, it moving forward, and it moves easily in a flowing direction, like a river running towards the sea, like a bird flying on the air currents. Everything moving towards ease and grace and with purposeful direction. You, too are in that flow, are in that movement. So is everyone around you. Now, everything you do in your life has its own particular little flow. So when I have a thought, for instance, I'm actually sort of squeezing out a flow of energy. It's a thought. It's going out there. And that thought has a life, it has an energy, it has an essence of its own. Now, just because I can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, right? I'm thinking right now, I can't see it. I can't hold it in my hand. And yet it's real. There's something going on out there. Well, likewise, situations also are made up of flows of energy. Now, what happens in a situation, your energy and someone else's energy, or some other object or business or whatever it is, whatever it may be, has to interact or intersect with your own energy. So imagine two flows of energy coming together to create a situation for you. Well, maybe the situation for you is money. What you're going to do is you close your eyes, you direct your mind, you bring up your emotion, and then I imagine a place. I imagine that I feel myself rolling on this river of energy. And it's key here that you feel and deeply understand. I am going to the place where everything in my life originates, where everything in my life first sprouts into being. And I'm feeling myself click into this place, roll into this place, place, flow into this place. And the way that I do that is I feel myself moving in this river. I feel myself moving in this ocean of energy, moving forward until I feel really solid. I know where I'm going. I am part and parcel of this, this, this perfection that is my life evolving. You know, imagine a flower blooming. That is your flow. The whole process of blooming is your life moving forward. It's got to happen now. Our minds can sort of get us out of the flow as we try to force things into our Life as we try to peel back that bloom, so we try not to do that. We allow our higher selves, we allow those deeper levels of us to guide things and help us. We put the request out there. For instance, Beth might say, I'm in my flow, I'm feeling it, I'm guiding my mind. I'm extremely focused and sharp in what I'm seeing and feeling right now. And I'm bringing all my emotions to focus to the fore here. And I'm feeling extraordinary wealth around me. And as I feel this wealth, as I feel it accepting into my life, I feel the yeses flowing into my life. I am pre programming this energy all around me. I am setting up an energy state where all the events now that are going to be coming into position in my life have to match what I am creating right now. I am rolling out the blueprint through my emotions and my imagery and my mind, my mental thoughts. These three things are coming together. My emotions, my mental imagery and my thoughts. And by thoughts and mental imagery, mental imagery is what you see and thoughts are, you know, what you are thinking about. This imagery that you're seeing, for instance, so I'm feeling money and I'm, I'm, I'm seeing money and I, I'm thinking, I know that it is around me and with me and here with me now. I'm setting up a state of mind being. And everything that happens in my life is now going to have to match this mental emotional flow state that I am creating and programming right now out there. And then you let it go into your flow and you say, bring this to me, create this for me. All the events that are out there, match it up, make it happen. This is what it's going to be. And so it is. And that is in essence the principle of manifesting and flow dreaming. You recognize you're going into this pool, this pool of raw power of raw energy and you are shaping it, you are moving it. It's like play doh. And this is the raw energy that is all of life springs from, is made from. And you can take it a level deeper and say this, this raw stuff, this raw energy, this raw power out there is conscious. It has a self awareness. And I am part of that self awareness. My self awareness flows through this and it flows through me. And I feel a supreme connection with God at this point. I recognize my sameness, the fact that I am made of this energy too. That this energy is in and of and woven through everything that exists. And all I'm doing is learning how to be a creator, learning how to direct it. I'm picking up my God given gift, which is to be this person, to be this creator, to grow up in God's eyes and become the person who is in control and in charge of my spiritual destiny and my physical destiny. It's all tied together as one. Wow, that took me the whole time. But boy, you know, that was a real critical explanation, I believe. And then after this, we're going to go to a break. But when we come back, the second whole half of the show, I have some more to say to you about ghosts and about what is going on out there on the astral level. We talked about energy imprinting in the first hour of the show. If you didn't catch that, you can of course go to the hayhouseradio.com archives. But I'm going to take some calls. I'm going to talk to you about the so called astral world, which we always feel is where the little ghosts and things are hanging out. Right? Haven't you heard that before? We'll examine that idea when we get back and we'll be taking your call. Some of you I see have seen some ghosts and you want to share that with me? We'll be coming right back after this. I'm Summer Mixtraffic Flowing together. Welcome to Flow dreaming with Summer McStravik. And welcome back. I hope you know during the break I happened to hear a little segment about Abraham. And of course, Abraham being the energies that Jerry and Esther Hicks channel. And I have to say that is just the most brilliant material. I remember going to see them back in the, what was it, mid, mid to late 80s when they still had their material on cassette tapes, hand labeled, you know, typed with typed labels. And it was just the most fascinating information. I'm so delighted that it's continuing that Hay House has actually picked up their material and now has it out there. They offer some of the most undiluted information on attraction and manifesting and being a powerful creator in your world. And I'm sure they influenced me many years ago. Of course, what I do today is very similar to some of the things that Abraham discusses. It just happens that it's a very easy technique for me to use because I needed something special for myself, special for a person with a busy mind. And that happened to be me. And that happened to be Flow Dreaming, which we just described before we went to the break. Also, you know, someone else who's been channeling some fascinating material is Venus Andrecht. She Has a show on Fridays called Dear Venus. Hope you'll join in and listen to that sometimes. Venus, of course, is my mother. She's been channeling these beings called, well, we call them the beings actually and wow, they. I'm just floored and astounded at the kind of material that's coming through. And she and I have been very, talking very excitedly lately about putting some of the material on CD so that you can listen to it and hear it as well as, you know, putting it together into some sort of book or something to get it out there because we've had so much, so much interest in it. In fact, there's a show on Flow Dreaming's archives called God is Always Happy. Highly, highly recommend that show if you're interested in hearing from a non physical perspective. She and I do some actual reread, actual transcripts of what has been coming through from her. I also want to tell you we have a money show coming up, a Flow Dreaming for lots of money. I realized with November coming up November 7th, it's a good time for us to do another money manifesting show. Very popular shows. And I'm actually going to do a real Flow Dream five minutes together on air where we're going to bring in that money that we need to get us through the holidays. It's one that I'm doing for myself too because it's nice to have that little extra cash injection to get through the holidays without becoming in debt, to just, you know, float us through. And it's really not a hard thing to do. So I'm. I thought I'm going to do it for myself, might as well share it with all of you and we can all do it together. So be sure to tune in November 7th. You can also find a CD that I did just on money@flow dreaming.com. i encourage you to check that out. Let us go now to Kenya. She's calling from Miami, Florida. Kenya, welcome to our program.
Hi Summer, how are you?
I'm great. How about yourself?
Thank you for taking my call. I'm fine.
Sure. What's going on in your life?
I was calling because I have. I call them death angels. When someone is about to get really sick or gonna die or something. I see ghosts. I don't know if they're. They're angels. The spirit, it's like a shadow.
And is it a shadow of the person who's going to become ill or is it a shadow of people who are surrounding that person or beings that are surrounding the person?
I really don't know. It's a shadow. I look around and they're peeking around the corner. I'm in the bed. I look up there on the side of my bed, and it's. They're just there. When someone is really sick.
Yeah.
And one. Okay. On one occasion when there was a deer all night long, I couldn't sleep. It was Christmas last year, and I wasn't able to sleep because they was in the house. And so happened my mother in law was sick and, you know, she felt really ill, and I had to call the ambulance to come pick her up. She didn't want to go, but I made her go to the hospital because I kept seeing the. You know, I call them death angels. I seen them around and they told her if she didn't come into the hospital, she would have, you know, died.
Yeah.
And then on another occasion, I seen. They was coming around me all week, and my. My godmother ended up passing away. And two weeks later, she came to me in a dream and she was. It was a dream, but then when I told her, I said, okay, but, you know, you're dead. You know, I went to your funeral and everything. It's like we actually had a real conversation in a dream. She was like, oh, you know, I'm. You know, so you can talk to me. You can talk to me. And I was like, yes, I understand everything.
All right, Kenya, I'm going to give you a perspective to help you maybe understand this a little better. Maybe make you feel more comfortable with it, too.
Okay?
Now, you know, when you're. When you're in the flow, you understand that there's this deeper part of yourself that's existing right now out there on deeper energy levels. All right? You might. You might be thinking of this as being the soul level, the spirit level, the mind level. Well, from my understanding, all these energies that are you are kind of existing along this spectrum right now, and they're all connected. It's almost like they get finer and finer and finer and finer, but they're never really separate from one another. So when you are around someone who is ill that you're concerned about, imagine if this was happening. The deeper part of yourself and the deeper part of that other person are in communication on these other energy levels. They're talking. You're sitting around the table together discussing things, and you're saying, you know what I'm sensing that you're having some illness and you're going to be passing on. And the person is saying, yes, I think I'm going To be. And this is going to be, you know, coming up and, you know, created in my life very soon now. All this is happening on this finer, vibratory level where you are existing right now. Now, what happens is you. Because you happen to be a more sensitive person, as you learn this information on these deeper levels, the you that is here physically sort of tunes in this conversation that's happening on this deeper place, and it sort of manifests itself. It comes through to you as this perception. Because, remember, our minds, our physical senses aren't really set up. Our physical senses aren't really set up to get to these deeper levels. So what we sh. What we see are shadows and hints and in essence, translations of the information we're receiving. It's like we're receiving data, we're receiving information coming to us, but our bodies have to process it somehow. And the way that they process it is what we're comfortable with and familiar with. And so you see it as shadows or hints of beings or. Or, you know, what we see as ghosts around us. So what's happening is you already know this information. It's just that your body, your mind, the person that you are here is receiving that information and translating it, and that's what you're sensing. And so you feel like maybe it's coming from some other place or, you know, whatever. But really, it's just part of this continuum. It's part of this process of understanding that's it's quite normal and quite natural that's going on. And as you communicate it, like you did with. You said it was your mother, your mother or your mother in law.
My mother in law.
Your mother in law. You know, you were just able to communicate something to her and. And make something happen and occur. And that was very fortunate. So, you know, as long, you know, use your gut as your guidance, you know, if it feels good, if it feels comfortable, then just realize that you're just perceiving in. You're tapping into a deeper awareness level, and it's trans. Translating in the form of, you know, you know, shadows or, you know, you know, patches of people that look like they're peeking at you from around the corner. All right, Kenya, thanks for your call. That was a great one. You're welcome. Now stay on the line because you are entered in the fall Free for all giveaway, which will be for a pair of tickets to any Hay House event in November or December that is live. So stay with us on our call screen and we'll get your information. I hope all of you understood what I was saying there about, you know, how we translate the energies that are around us. And that is why sometimes we see things or we believe we see things, because our physical apparatus, our eyes, our ears are trying to make sense of something that's sort of happening on a, say, you know, a fifth dimension. You know, we have no real way of taking it in through our normal senses. So it becomes filtered. And it often becomes filtered in a way that makes sense to you or is comfortable to you. And it's a cultural conditioning. The way that it's being filtered to somebody in India, for instance, is different than the way it's being filtered through an American person. And that's why you have different cultures seeing or sensing ancestors differently or spirits differently. That's why you often have crazes where people will see all the same thing. You know, sometimes people talk about seeing alien beings, and it's odd because, well, how come everybody in the US looks at them one way and you go back, you know, 30 years ago and they all looked at them a different way? It's because it's being filtered through our apparatus of understanding as a body. And it doesn't negate whatsoever that there may be these other energies out there. It's just how we see them that changes. Well, it looks like we'll be talking about the astral plane when we get back from our next break. Boy, it moves so quickly. Maybe I can actually bring somebody on real quickly. Leah, Ann Arbor, Michigan let's talk for like 30 seconds. Just tell me what you're calling about. Line eight, and then we'll get back after this. What's going on with you?
Hi, how are you?
Great.
Quick question or I'm hoping you can help me help my daughter. She is four and she is going through. People at first told me that it was just a natural fear of not wanting to go to bed, but now she's actually telling me that she sees angels and she sees ghosts in her room and she's terrified to go back into her bedroom.
Oh, you know, I understand. I have a little daughter who's almost four, too, so. And we go through the scared thing all the time.
Right.
So we're going to be going to a break in a few seconds. The music is going to be starting here. So when we get back, let's talk about what we can do with children and ghosts and spirits, because I think it's an excellent, excellent question and I thank you for staying with me. And during the break, in fact, our call screener will get your information so you'll be entered to the fall free for all giveaway as well. So stay with me. I'm Summer McStravik. Coming right back right after this. Welcome to Flow dreaming with Summer McStravik. And welcome back. Looks like we'll be talking about the astral world on another show because this two hours has just raced on by. I'm Summer McStravik. We've been flow dreaming. We've been talking about ghosts and spirits and all things related to those deeper energy levels. As I mentioned much earlier in the program, I do believe there are all kinds of energies that are existing out there. There are many expressions of the flow. There are many expressions of God. There are many expressions of our lives and of reality and physical energies, non physical energies, much, much to be seen and known and understood out there. However, the most important thing for you to remember is that you are always safe. You are always protected. Your energy, the you of who you are, your consciousness is here and will stay here forever. It can never be taken away. It can never be erased. It can never be, you know, somehow destroyed. All energy states are like this. They can be transferred perhaps from one place to another place or you know, put places, I guess you could say. But. But it cannot be denied or destroyed. Once something exists, it is always known. That's one of the principles, interestingly, of quantum physics. It's also a principle that our historical traditions, our historical religions also support. You'll notice that the soul is never destroyed. It might be locked up, it might be sent to a bad evil place and punished, but it's never ever, ever destroyed. Just can't happen, can't be done. And with that kind of immunity, with that kind of power inside of yourself, it means that you have the ability to step back and look at all these things as mere curiosities. And that's important for you to know because it diffuses things and it really helps you gain control and understanding and helps you step more into the role of creator in your life. All right, we are going to be going to Leah. She had called in because she has a four year old daughter who is scared of the dark, scared of what she sees as ghosts. Leah, welcome back to the program.
Yes, hi.
I guess one thing I wanted to let you know is I've been doing research and I've asked the doctors, I've just been told, you know, oh, it's typical childhood fear, blah blah, blah. But the fear that she expresses and the things she I can get her to describe to me. I mean she Wants to know if angels have wings big enough to wrap around you. She says, you know, that they keep her awake, this, this, and that, that she can't sleep. And if I tell her to go to sleep on the couch, she'll lay down and go right to sleep. If I have her go back in her room or even my bed, she will not do it. I mean, kicking, screaming, terrified, shaking, does not want to go back there.
Tell me, have you ever noticed anything. First of all, let's rule out that place energy I was talking about earlier. Have you noticed anything about your own home that feels sad or despairing or melancholy? No.
No. As a. In fact, I've even. I've gotten a smudge stick and I, you know, I've, you know, walked around the house and, you know, what are you, the sage? You know, and blessed the house and made sure that there's nothing in there.
Okay.
I've had people come in that. My friend's a Reiki expert, and she's come in and said that the house has got positive energy. And I've always had people tell me that my house is always really warm and loving when they're inside.
Well, let. Okay. I don't know if you heard earlier in the program, I was talking about consensual energy, meaning that when you have fear, it's basically a handshake, you know, to other energy, saying, I'm afraid of you, therefore I'm inviting you in. It's an open doorway. So what we want to do with your child, whether or not what she sees is real or not, let's just set that aside for the moment. If we can work on stemming her fear, then it doesn't matter whether what she's seeing is real or not, because she's closing the doorway no matter what by eliminating her fear. So that's where you really have to put your focus, not necessarily on, you know, trying to figure out if she's being haunted. So I'm going to give you a couple of ideas that I have tried, and you may have to stay with them for a while. And I'd like to know. I'd be curious to know. If you want to email me in a few weeks, let me know. Summerlowdreaming.com One of the first things you can do is do a feel the love exercise with her before you go to sleep at night. You're going to hold her very close in a very tight hug, and you're going to say, I'm loving you so much right now. Do you feel the Love coming out of my heart and into your heart and wait for her to respond. Wait for her to say, yes, I feel your love coming from your heart into my heart. Because children are very literal. You know, it's things that are, you know, real to them. So if you say, I am sending you my powerful love right now, she's going to actually feel that as a physical sensation in her body. I'm sending you my love. Do you feel it from my heart to your heart? Yes, I do. Do you feel my now surrounding your whole body? Yes, I do. Do you feel my love surrounding your whole bed? Yes, I do. And then you say, now I'm going to get up, and I'm going to use my special mommy powers, and I'm going to make sure that your whole room is covered with my love. And there is nothing, nothing that will ever be in your room that can get through my mommy powers, my special love shield. And this is where you. You act it up. You play this up. You are, you know, at 4 years old, you're still a God in her mind, right? So you play it up. You go to the window, and you shake your hands over it and you go, mommy powers. Mommy powers. No ghosts. No ghosts. Gone, gone. You know, and you just, you know, you just act like you're just shaking them out of the whole room.
Okay?
And then when you're done, you say to her, your room is absolutely in a bubble right now, and there's nothing that can get through. It's my bubble with my special mommy powers. And it's filled up. And there are no ghosts who will ever be here. They have to wait outside. They can't come in my house.
Okay, sounds good.
All right. And this should make an impression. I mean, especially if you really hype it up. This will make an impression in her mind.
She loves stories. So I was wondering if I could almost put her into a flow by telling her a story.
Oh, you know what? That's another wonderful idea. That's something I do with my daughter just about every night. I tell her a story, and she is always the main character in the story. And I try to, you know, put in a subtle sort of moral message to that story. But, yeah, you know, that would be another great idea, you know, is to. Is to bring her in there and talk about how when she grows up and she's a mommy, her mommy powers will do the same thing. And you know, that no ghost will ever be able to come around here again. In fact, they're not even going to pay Attention. They're going to go to the house next door, so.
Good.
All the. All the ghosts go to the next house. They don't pay attention to our house anymore because they can't get through.
Okay.
Just can't get through anymore.
I just want. Because I'm kind of new to the flow dream. I just wanted to make sure that that was. I mean, if I just kind of. Because she'll go to sleep to my stories, and I do usually have her being the main character, but I didn't know if I could just, you know, put her basically telling her, you know, I believe in spirits, but I'm trying. I usually tell her, you know, there's no such thing as ghost, blah, blah, blah, you're fine. But it's because.
Yeah. You know, especially if you have any relatives who've passed away, you know, I have. And you talk brother. And so if you say, well, they're in another place. Well, isn't that the same place where there are ghosts, Mommy?
Right, right.
So, you know, you can also say that they would help her, but I wouldn't. I'm not sure if I want to do that, because then that makes her start thinking about the whole concept of ghosts again. It's better, I think, to put her in a bubble. Put her in a bubble of love, you know, protected by your mommy power. So all the ghosts have to go someplace else. I just can't get through, you know, and really play it up. I want you to stand up and go to the windows. I want you to go to the doors and the corners and everywhere.
Okay.
And you can also, you know, make sure she's got a nightlight. And if there are any dark areas of her room, you can also cover those areas up with blankets so she can't see into any dark corners.
Yeah, she wants the closet open. I have to check under the bed.
Yep. This, this and that, you know, and frankly, the. The TV shows that these kids watch, they don't do anything to help them.
I'm taking all it, all that stuff away. I don't want to watch anything. And I've basically downgraded her, you know.
For going back to, like, Teletubbies. Right, I understand. All right. Well, please take care. And. And I, I. I'm very curious to know if this helps her. And if not, I'm gonna continue thinking because I think I know it's very important because for kids, it's real, you know, and so please try that. And then we'll go to plan B. All right, take care now. Well, it's been such a wonderful show everyone today. I know we still have some calls on the board. I encourage you to try me next week. Now that we have two hours, we're able to take more time with people and kind of really help you and didn't do so much in the terms of card reading today, so maybe we'll do that next time as well. But it's been a very fascinating hour sharing stories with you about ghosts and my impressions of them and you know, really what is a ghost? It's just an energy, it's just someone's consciousness, it's just a self awareness of some type or another. You know, human minds and our minds, they're very powerful. There are many things that we actually create from our own minds that we give life to, that we give energy to. There's much out there that has yet to be explored and that, you know, we try to just understand but we don't know. We don't always have the final answers. I don't have the final answers, but what I've shared with you are understandings that have come to me as I've worked with these energies over the years. And certainly being that I spend a lot of time in the flow, I encounter a lot of different and interesting things. So I hope some of what I've said has helped you and I hope it's given you a different perspective. Certainly on Halloween, when it is a time while we're thinking about these deeper energy fields, you know, some people say it's when the veil between the worlds becomes thinner. And that is possible. It is possible. But I think that veil is always there. I think it can be tapped into at any time by any person and it can be used for many joyful and wondrous things, not just for talking with spirits and getting in, getting to know what's going on out there. So join me again next week. We'll be flow dreaming more, getting back to more of our traditional topics and until then, stay in your flow.
Sam.