BONUS: Spark Your Light with Jaclyn Gallo

Your self image? Is that the same as your ego? Or maybe, maybe it's confidence? Just what is self image exactly and how do we build it or lose it? Jaclyn Gallo and I explore this elusive idea of our self image and how failure, success and all kinds of emotions, experiences and choices either help us cultivate a great self self image or positively tear it apart. Jacqueline shares how affirming a core, authentic self image has been crucial to her success and shares also how you can begin the journey of building or rebuilding yours. So join us for some fascinating conversation.

As I share some of my own experiences losing my self image, building and.

Regaining it again, and Jacqueline does the.

Same and and hopefully between the two of us, we can lead you out.

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Jacqueline. So I've already briefed the audience about you a little bit so they kind of know what we're getting into here. And one thing I didn't mention is that when we first started talking with one another, I don't know, self image came up and I explained to you how there was a breakdown point in my life where I completely lost my self image of who I thought I was presenting to the world. So it really sparked so good thoughts. By the way, Spark your Light is the name of your podcast, so I couldn't help the pun, so I just want to dive right in. Let's go with self image. Why did this become a topic that wrapped itself into your life?

Yeah, I love it. I love getting to the good stuff from the beginning because sometimes I feel like podcasts start slow and they wait to dive in. So yes, give them all the good stuff. I love it. So I never really thought about self image growing up, starting my business. I decided to start a business when I was a senior in college. I had done a corporate internship that I thought was my dream job, and I realized it wasn't. And I had this entrepreneurial bug and I listened to it and I failed a lot. I had a product that failed, an app that failed. I spent tens of thousands of dollars, most of it money I raised, money I borrowed, money I used on credit cards. Because at 22, how much money did I really have to my name? Not much. And so, you know, then I had a lot of debt and I was in this really dark place and I couldn't figure out why, no matter what I tried, I would fail. And there were quite a few things I had to work on for sure. I hate when you're listening to a podcast and someone says, like, it's like a sales page. And I did this one thing and then everything changed, right? It's like it was a work in progress. But one of the main changes I made was understanding the way that my self image related to my habits, my actions, and the things that I was actually creating in my life, the things I was manifesting. And I never understood that connection. And so when I would decide something that I wanted to pursue, I didn't see myself as that kind of person. And so I would self sabotage when things got hard. I would retreat because it wasn't natural for me. And the example I always like to give, because I think everyone can relate to it, is New Year's resolutions and going to the gym because I feel like everyone has set the New Year's resolution to be healthier at least once.

Yes, yes. Preaching to the car.

I love it. And so there's, there's two types of people. There's. There's one type of person that sees themselves as a healthy and fit person who sets that resolution. And then there's another type who sees themselves as out of shape, as unhealthy, as really not the kind of person that goes to the gym. And so both of these people could be in the same situation at first. The first couple weeks, they're doing really well, they're sticking to their goals. And then something hard happens. Maybe there's a really bad snowstorm and they can't get to the gym that day. The person who sees themselves as healthy and fit, that identity will create thoughts like, oh, it's a bummer about this snow this morning, but you know, I've been wanting to do more yoga. Maybe I'll go Downstairs and I'll do a Yoga video on YouTube and that will lead to actions like actually doing it and then being that healthy and fit person. The self fulfilling prophecy of their self image. But the other person who is seeing themselves as out of shape, as not the kind of person who works out, they unconsciously will have thoughts like, too bad for this snowstorm, I guess I'm going to sleep in. And they will not work out and they will lead to the self fulfilling prophecy of breaking their resolution and really reinforcing this self image. And so when I started to realize that that was a problem in my life, I started to ask myself, what are my goals? And it was at this time that I went on a personal growth journey and started sharing about it. And that's basically how I got into the work I do now. And I wanted to be a speaker, I wanted to write books, I wanted to do all these things, but I didn't see myself as any of those things. And so that's where I started and that's where my journey with self image really began and why I'm so passionate about it.

As you're talking an old TV show line or movie, I'm not sure what it is, but who do you think you are? You know that I'm like, well actually, if you really want to know, I will tell you who you think you are. For me, that's how I translate self image. As long as I'm thinking of myself as not capable, not healthy, not this, not that, that's, that's who I become. So I'm gonna back, I'm gonna back up a little bit and point out a couple of funky commonalities between us. I also started a business in college. I was fortunate to only walk away with $30,000 in losses. But failure, you're right. And this is like the next big question for you when you are coming off a stream of failures and your self image starts to be, I failed and I don't know why. There must be something wrong with me. I must just not be capable. I must not be caught out for it. There must. Right?

Yeah.

How is that? How do you reverse that? How do you like change that narrative right there?

Yeah. It's so interesting because growing up I always attributed success with if you work hard and you are good enough at the thing, right. Then you'll succeed. And failing at entrepreneurship was the first time I experienced. I worked hard, I didn't succeed. Therefore, exactly what you said. I felt all those things. It's me, I'm the Problem. The Taylor Swift lyric. It really is me. I wish that song was out then because, man, I would have danced around my bedroom singing that because that's how I felt.

Yeah.

Something that helped me zoom out from that and stop seeing myself as a failure. There's really two parts. The first part was realizing that that wasn't the whole pie. The pie of success wasn't just hard work, me being enough, and that makes up success. Right. There were all these other components. One of them was strategy. One of them was timing. One of them was alignment and what I'm meant to be doing. Right. And so all of these other components, I was just missing them. So when I started to remove the blame from myself and instead say, okay, what did I learn here? In what ways can I grow? What could I do differently next time? Maybe this isn't the right thing for me. Why? Right? And just being more gentle with myself. And the second piece of that's just really a deeper layer. I really worked on my beliefs about failure. So I started to see failure as really two categories. And I could actually fit every failure into them. And I would journal about it. I'd say, this fits into this category. And so the first category were the lessons that I needed to achieve my dreams. And I would write down like, this is the lesson. And it's funny, because anytime now that I'm wanting something and I'm pursuing a goal and I'm not hitting it, I'm asking myself, why aren't I hitting this goal? I think to myself, well, I must not know all the things I need to know, otherwise it would already be there. Right? And so it's like, it makes so much sense to me now, but then it just felt so personal. But really, there's this beautiful metaphor that I use in my speeches about failure. And essentially it's about, I don't know where it came from. People always ask me, I heard this somewhere, I think. I don't know if I dreamed about it. I don't know. But it's a beautiful story. And it's about a girl who wants to climb a mountain. And she prays to God and asks for help, please, God, help me climb this mountain. And so she starts climbing, and things are going well at first, and she's feeling really good. And then the mountain dips, and she finds herself in the valley. And in the valley, there's all these ups and downs. And every time she goes up, she feels like, okay, it's a turning point. And then she goes down again, and she starts to get so frustrated, she yells out to God. She says, God, I asked you to help me, but you're taking me backwards.

Why?

Swoops down and says, you asked me to help you. And I looked at you and I thought, oh, no, her legs aren't strong enough for her to climb the mountain. And if I just let her go up, then she's going to make it 80% of the way there and she's going to have to turn around. So I devised a plan to help you and I put you in this valley with this series of ups and downs. Because by the time you leave this valley, your legs will be strong enough and you will now be able to climb the mountain. And it just makes me realize that our failures are usually the exact thing we've been praying for, asking for, manifesting, dreaming about. And we just have trouble seeing them that way. But when we look at it like we're climbing the mountain and we're in the valley and we just need to get our legs a little stronger, then we can remind ourselves that it's not that we're not enough, it's that there are lessons we need to learn to get to where we're going. And so that's the one category. And the other category that I consider is redirection. So I feel, looking back, actually I know with certainty, looking back, that I wasn't on the right path for, for me, but I just didn't know. And there was no way I could have told myself what the right path was until I made those mistakes, lived those things. And so doing the work I do now is so much more in alignment with my unique gifts and talents and what I love to do and what brings me joy and just what I think I was born to do, to be honest. But when I was building an app or building this product, I thought those were the things, right? And so I had, I had to have them fail because if they had succeeded, I would never have found this work. So between those two categories, I've been able to take all of that icky, heavy, I'm not enough feeling and realize that actually I've been being guided, I've been being taught, and things are really, actually good, even though they're still really hard in failure. And now when I fail, it still sucks. I still have that moment. I think when we hear stuff like this, we think, oh, I'm supposed to just be in the middle of the failure and be like, it's okay, everything's good, but you still feel frustrated. You still might want to Cry or, I don't know, drive through McDonald's or something. But whatever it is, do those things, take care of yourself and know that you're being guided. And so that's what's helped me the Most.

Yeah, I 100% experienced both of those forms of failure. In my first, I was pursuing the thing that wasn't actually for my, I don't know, pious guidance, my purpose, my direction. Not knowing that at the time. And secondarily, I had gaping holes in my knowledge of how to run a company and how to do, like, certain aspects of the company. I was great at. Certain I had. I was clueless. And I was very upset with myself. Like, well, you. You're supposed to know all the things. And I had to step back and go, wow, I do not know all the things. And that's why this happened. So what are those. What are the. What are all the things? I need to go find those now. And so I did. Life scheduled me a series of 10 years of learning all the things before releasing me again into the world of entrepreneurship. So I directly know exactly what you're talking about. I'm sure people listening know the same thing.

I love it. I feel like our. Our stories are so aligned.

Yeah. Here's another little story I wanted to share that I definitely knew I wanted to talk with you about. Speaking of self image or who we think we are, who do you think you are? I don't know why. I always do it like I'm from the Bronx. Who do you like? This guy? Who do you think you are? It must be from.

I think it's from a movie or something.

Yeah. Rocky. Rocky. So funny. Okay. I always felt that if I could present a certain way, I'd achieve certain results. Present as intelligent, present as kind, present as industrious, hard working. And everyone would see me that way. And then I would get what I wanted from life. I know this sounds very, like, tit for tat. I guess it kind of is in hindsight. When I experienced cancer, there was a moment when I had lost all my hair. And you become this little sunken corpse of yourself. You're bald, everything is aching, and you're climbing into your car to go get groceries and you're thinking, I should have put a wig on. And then I'm like, those are hot and scratchy. I'm not going to do it. And for me, I was kind of young, and I remember moments like walking through stores especially, and people would look at me, and I instantly felt like they see me as some weird Sick person they're feeling very sorry for and they're getting out of the aisle and they're getting out of my way and I'm walking through these food deserts literally inside the grocery store of no one. And I realized they're not looking at me how I want them to see me. They don't. They don't see me. They're seeing something else. This is not me. This is not me. And it was almost like having a complete stripping away of my ego, of how I wanted my control over how I wanted the world to see me. The upside that came from all that was I got okay with it, eventually stopped caring eventually. And then I had the blessed ability to rebuild the person that I wanted the world to see from scratch. And I realized that I was going to spend a lot less time controlling how I wanted other people to perceive me. So that's a self image like story. And I just wonder what your, your perspective is on that. Because on the one hand, we really want to be and stand in our self image. This is who I am. But there's also a gift in releasing a little control over having other people necessarily need that from you. I don't know if you've had this question before, but you're an expert, so I'm asking you.

Yeah, no, it's, it's beautiful. It's a beautiful story of something so tragic in your life that had a blessing in disguise in that stripping away of your self image. I think that anytime we try to control something that we can't control, we feel bad. Right. So trying to control how someone else sees you makes you feel bad. And I also think that something really interesting about self image is I do think it's possible for people to see you for who you truly are when you strip away the need for others to see you in a different way. So like when I was starting my business and I started speaking specifically like this business I kind of have now, I guess you could say I consider.

It all one continuous long business.

One mountain that I've been climbing. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Like I've just changed the name like four times. Anyways, when I first started speaking, I think I was maybe 24. And so I was young and I felt like I wasn't old enough. I felt like I didn't have enough experience. I felt like no one would take me seriously. And so I felt like I had to fake that self image. Like my, my photo shoots had to make me look older and even other people in my life would contribute it. My mom would say, oh, you're talking to a company about speaking. Just don't mention what year you graduated. College. Great. And that was a genuine. She was trying to help me, but it actually made it worse. And whenever I would try to do things to portray a different self image than I felt, it never really got me anywhere. Or when it did, like, sometimes I would get paid way more money than I felt in my self image that I was worth, which is so, yeah, weird. And I actually. It didn't really feel right. And I was like, I just don't think I'm there yet. Which sounds really crazy because you're like, well, why don't you just take as much money as you can get? But actually, I wanted to be confident and feel good about the service I was delivering and work my way up. And that felt more genuine to me, to just be myself and admit my age and just own all that stuff. And what's ironic about it is when I did, it was kind of like sunshine that was like, glowing out of me and. And it just glowed for who I truly was. And none of those things I was insecure about mattered. And in fact, they actually started helping me. So I would have organizations reach out and say, oh, we're looking to connect with the younger generations in our company, or we're looking to involve more young entrepreneurs. We think you'd be a great speaker. We think you could connect with them better. And all of a sudden, like, the things that I hated, that I was trying to hide, that I wasn't confident in, were becoming the things that were really supporting me. And so I think when we try to put on a fake self image and control what other people think of us, it either doesn't work. It feels terrible, or it does work, but then it still doesn't feel good. It's like when you force yourself and push, push, push to a goal and you get the thing and you're like, it's not really that great. So I find that it's best to strip it away and to focus on seeing yourself and being the person that you want to be. And when you're being the person you want to be, you're not worried about how you're perceived, Right? So I'm not like, I want to be older.

Plenty of time for that.

I never thought that in my life. I just wanted to be perceived that way, Right? So when I focused on who did I want to be, I wanted to be a really great speaker. And I started spending lots of time watching other speakers and studying Them and practicing and writing speeches and giving speeches and all of a sudden I became a better speaker. Right. I wanted to be someone who really helped clients. So I started learning all the strategies and techniques that I could to become a better coach and. Right. So I just started being the person I wanted to be and then those things just naturally shined through. So I think that it's natural to want to control it, but it doesn't really get you anywhere.

Yeah, yeah. When you talk about being your self image, how do you. There must be a method or a way that you teach that lets you grow and develop certain parts of that self image. Because I know a lot of us, we have some good self image here. Like, I think I'm a really good daughter. I think I'm a decent friend. You know, I've got some judgments. I think I'm a good teacher. There are places though where, you know, my self image is not so, so hot and I'm being that, but I want to be different. How do you, how do you address the growth of your self image? I guess is what I'm asking to change the direction.

Yeah, yeah. I think it's important to get clear on how do you want to see yourself? It helps looking at your life vision, like where do you want to be in your life? Right. What's your vision? What are your goals? And you can either. Some people, it's very easy for them to see. Well, you know, that's the version of. I know that version of me. She's more confident, she's healthier, she's whatever. Right. And it's really easy. Other times it's helpful to. I don't really know who that future version of me is look at. Okay, well, what are the goals? Okay. You want to grow your business. So what, who do you need to be in order to do that? Right. Well, I need to be more confident around finances. I need to be a better leader. I need to be X, Y or Z. Right. And so kind of just getting an idea first of, like, what are the different facets of your self image you want to improve? And then when you have those, I think it's a two step approach, mindset and action. Like most things, I think it's a beautiful combination. So with the mindset piece, it's. It's just starting to incorporate self talk and affirmations that can slowly bridge the gap. So I've never been a fan of, you know, let's just say these affirmations that feel like a total lie and it just kind of feels like it's stretching you so much that it's not helping you. But instead, you know, if you want to see yourself as better with finances, let's use that example. Right? Well, is there a very small step that you can sort of put into an affirmation? Like each, each month I become a little bit better at managing my finances and that way it's a little bit lighter so that you don't have to overnight, you know, become a cpa, but maybe you put a little bit more in retirement and you know, manage the cash flow a little bit better. And then the next month you do one other thing and then this pairs with the action part. So the action part is asking yourself what action step would help me see myself as that kind of person? So the simplest example that I love to give is if you wanted to see yourself as a runner, just go outside and run for 10 minutes a day. And if you do it every day for a couple weeks, you're going to start to see yourself as a runner. That's it. That's all it's going to take. It doesn't take a huge change. It actually takes these really small steps and you can start to think of what those things are for you. They're different for everyone. And some self images are more self explanatory, like runner, if it's an ER type of thing. Right. Can you make that into a verb? And, and you like, I want to be a writer. Okay. I need to write. Right. I want to be a speaker, I need to speak. But other times it's a little bit more complex, like I want to be better at finances. What does that look like for you? So for you it might look like the main thing that I struggle with is I don't save anything for retirement as an entrepreneur. Okay, great. Can you set up an auto withdrawal from your bank account? A hundred dollars a month today. And then when you start saying that affirmation, you know that you actually are doing it right. Or maybe for you it's that you don't look at your bank account and you're afraid to look at it. So maybe just logging in and looking at it or tracking your expenses, right? Just basic things. But you're going to know what you need to do for you. You're going to know what those little actions are to start seeing yourself that way. So then when you combine the affirmations and taking it a step further, I like to do affirmations plus self talk, right? So the affirmations are great. But if you Just do it in your morning routine. It's only with you for that little part of your day. And we have 60 to 80,000 thoughts a day. Right. And so how can you start to just reinforce that that's the kind of person you are more and more in your self talk, which in the beginning it takes a lot of conscious effort. It might take some external reminders, some alarms on your phone, even telling loved ones, I love to do this. Telling loved ones like, I'm working on this. And it can be about self image or really anything, but especially in self talk and language. If you notice that I say something that doesn't align with this, please call it out, please tell me, because sometimes it's so unconscious you don't even know you're saying it. So it's hard to work on that self talk. But the more you pair it with the action piece, the more you're going to start to see yourself that way and the more that it's going to become easier to practice the self talk. So these things really go in harmony.

Yeah. You mentioned writer a little while back and I, I've had numerous conversations with people who say, I want to be a writer, I want to be an author. I say, well, are you writing? And they say, yes. Then I say, you're an author, you're a writer. And it's like there's a perception, a buildup of what author writer is that's so different than what they actually are doing. They have a completely different perception. So I'm like, own that you are. If you are doing that, then you are technically that. So instead maybe you're going to say, I am a popular writer or I am a writer with influence or I am a writer with a huge audience that I relate to. I am like, take it to the next point. You're already a writer. Move, keep going. So, speaking of which, because that's sort of business related and I know that you teach a lot about entrepreneurship and changing the mindset and the self perception. What do you discover when you work with entrepreneurs or people who want to be a certain thing? Where do they often, like where is their self image not aligned to what they're trying to become?

Yeah, great question. It's exactly what you said. They don't see themselves that way. And then they blame a lack of experience and then they say they can't get the experience because nobody's going to give me a book deal or nobody's going to book me for a speech or nobody's going to hire me to Do XYZ at their company. And so then it's a self fulfilling prophecy that they get stuck in. And I remember being in this because when I first discovered this was around the time that I was kind of building this career and I wanted to see myself as a speaker and I thought the same thing, like, nobody's gonna bring me to speak. And so I remember journaling on it one day and I wrote like reasons that I'm a speaker. And then I wrote like, when my friends can't decide what to do, I step up and I speak to the group about what we should do at family dinners. I often speak, speak about life experiences and share stories. Then I went into like in college, I led this club and I would speak at meetings and I just kept, you know, pulling teeth. That's what it felt like. How can you really, really pull all the teeth? It doesn't feel easy. And really sort through and sift and find reasons that you already see yourself as that because that can be just enough self confidence to then get some other piece of evidence. So then it was like, okay, well maybe I could pitch myself to give a free speech at a college and someone would listen to me. And then I did that and then I was like, well, I've given temporary speeches, so now I really am starting to be a speaker. And in most cases, one, you can find evidence already in your life. You're just not looking hard enough. And two, you can go create evidence. It just might not look the way that you think it looks. Exactly what you said about, you know, it might not be a book deal falling in your lap, right? But what if you wrote a blog once a week and published it to a website? Now you're a published author because you published it to your website. There you go, right? And then you're keeping up with that practice and habit. Not to mention all the other benefits of building an audience who wants to read your writing and all these things, right? It's, it's also great just to do it, just to take action and start doing it. But what I find is a lot of times people never get to the action part because they're so stuck in the like. But I'm not that. And so therefore I can't do that. So. So it's like that's the hardest part, that's the tension is you have to start to see yourself as it before it's really happening. And one other example I have about becoming a speaker. I really wanted to get a paid speaking engagement. So I was like, I'M a paid speaker. I would like talk about that. And I would talk about how, you know, I get booked to travel across the US and give speeches. And I had this, a period of about six weeks where I was sending pitch emails 40 hours a week. It was the only thing I was doing because I had no business. So I had nothing else to do other than generate business. Right. And I asked myself, well, what are some things, you know, in my manifestation practice that the version of me who already has these speeches would do? So I was really trying to embody that. And I thought, well, she would get her hair highlighted, she'd want to, you know, feel pretty on stage, and she would get a nice dress that she could wear and some shoes. So I did the whole thing right. I got the dress, the shoes, got my hair highlighted. And along with the hairdresser, you know, the hairdressers love to chat about life. They're just like low key. A therapist that doesn't have therapy training, but I swear they're the best therapists at mine.

Yesterday. Yep, exactly. Exactly.

And so she's like, oh, what are you up to? Like, she had known like that I had all these, like, failing businesses. And I was like, well, actually like I'm speaking and I'm traveling to. At the time, I was pitching myself to colleges. So I said, I'm traveling to different colleges across the country and I'm going to be giving speeches to students. And she's like, that's so awesome. Where are you going to be speaking? Now, keep in mind, I hadn't booked a single speech. I hadn't even gotten an answer to one of my emails, let alone a phone call or anything. And I said, well, I'm in the process of coordinating because I was. I sent the email, I am starting the coordination. And so I'm not exactly sure yet, but probably all over the country. I mean, I'm coordinating with schools in the east coast, the west coast, the Midwest. I named everywhere in the United States. And within that year, I had given about 25 keynotes at colleges all across the country.

Oh, my God.

And it was just so powerful to be able to speak about it as if it was happening and really be behind it. Because I never, like, lied to myself. And I don't think anything's wrong with lying, but I just find for me that it just doesn't really work as much. Like, it's hard to believe and get behind. And if I'm not behind it, the manifestation doesn't come as easily. So I said things that were true. Like, I'm in process of. I'm currently working on this. This is what I'm creating. And so it made it true.

Yep. I hear entrepreneurs say that I'm in the process of getting to the first million. And I'm like, you bet you are. And you're going to make that and more. Just keep, keep, keep saying like that. But I love that concept you brought up earlier about stacking the evidence, starting with whatever evidence you can find, like in your case, journaling, and then continuing to add more and more until the evidence becomes so overwhelming that you can't help but know that you're this way.

Yeah.

Because you just keep adding to the evidence. And that, that, to me, feels so, so key because it's like you finally go through a process of completely. I don't want to say convincing yourself, but owning. Owning what? You're starting to gradually see more and more about yourself.

Yeah. And I've.

So I love that process.

I've continued this process. Like, it's funny because first I just wanted to be a speaker, a coach, a writer. Then I wanted to be a good speaker. I want to see myself as someone who's really great because then when I'm commanding these higher price points, I actually believe that I'm really great. Right. And so then that was a whole new identity I had to form. And so I just did the evidence again. And in this case, I would take screenshots from messages that I would get from people after my talks or, you know, after a coaching session, a testimonial, and I would just save them in a folder on my phone that said evidence list. And I would just, anytime I questioned, well, should I pitch myself to this conference? Because so and so's the keynote there, and I don't know if I'm good enough. I would just look at that evidence list and I'd be like, oh, oh, maybe I am. And it was just. That was enough, right? That was enough. And then over time, I just started to believe it more and more and more and more. And I think we just keep going through this at every, every layer, because it's like every time I raise, then it's like, well, am I a speaker that's worth getting paid that much? And then I have to go through it again. So it's really fascinating. It's a lifelong process of really just giving your brain that evidence that you are. And when you believe it, then you create it. So it's really fun.

I love it. My dear, we've. We've gone on and on and longer than I anticipated. I just. I just kept feeling like one more. But I have one more question for you. I've got one more question, so thank you. Thank you for sticking with me. Your podcast, Spark your Light, a book that you wrote, I want to throw that out there because obviously you work, you know, with a lot of entrepreneurs. You, you have a lot to. To give there. Stop getting in your own way. So if anything we've talked about has made you go, yep, me too. Probably check out Stop getting in your own way. It'd be helpful as well as your podcast. Jacqueline in Gallo. I said that correct, right?

Yeah.

N N. Like Nancy in the middle. Okay, good, good, good. Because I was checking. I was like, there's an N there. That was surprising. It'll be in the show notes as well. Jacqueline, thank you so much.

Thank you. And I want to mention that Summer has an episode on the Spark YouLight podcast, and we haven't actually recorded it yet, but it's going to be really good. And I know it's going to be live before this episode goes live, so if you want to listen, we'd love to have you there.

Oh, oh, absolutely. A double header, as they say. Thank you.

I love it.

Thanks so much for having me. I had so much fun.

Thanks.

So the next time someone says to.

You, who do you think you are? I hope that you have given it.

Some consideration and you can say, I am. I'm a writer.

I'm a speaker, I'm a teacher.

I'm a gentle person with a loving heart.

I'm a parent.

I am guiding people in my workplace.

To grow and expand. Like, I want you to know, this is your self image. And I think Jacqueline did a really great job of unpacking it so we can understand it as something that is.

A powerful aspect or ally within ourselves.

And something we can rely on instead of just waiting or hoping and not.

Being sure how it's made or created.

Right. This is your self perception.

And as you can tell, you know.

It gets dinged up at times and it has to be repaired.

And that's just the way that we move with it.

Right.

That we flow with it.

So everything Jacqueline mentioned you can find. I put it in the show description again.

She's at JacquelineGallo.com J A C L Y N. Gallo is G-A L L O.com also do check out her wonderful podcast, Spark youk Light.

As she mentioned, I am a guest on her show as well, and she's got a ton of ton of other.

Wonderful interviews there for you.

So with that, my darlings, my loves.

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