0 to 7,000+ Real Estate Deals | The ONE HABIT Jamil Damji Used to Make Millions
10 Dec 2024 · 74 min
Podcast interview (Hannah Hammond & Jamil Damji) covering Jamil’s life story: childhood bullying and racism in Calgary, early hustles (fake report cards), entrepreneurial path into real estate wholesaling and development, major wins and a later financial collapse, recovery through personal development (meditation, breathwork, psychedelics), sobriety and spiritual growth, and his mission helping others via real estate education and franchising. Emphasis on how meditation/psychedelic therapy and self-work transformed his career and relationships.
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So I'm addicted to opiates and I'm addicted to alcohol, but I'm wanting to do something big with my life. And so I wake up one day with a hangover and I just do what the book said. I just downloaded Headspace and it changed my life. When I moved here, I was just about to get married to Natalie, and I'm like, ah, I'm not really doing much. You know, like, I was a failed comedian. I worked for four years, but I didn't become Kevin Hart. So it showed me that comedy was a part of my journey and I needed it. But I remember I'm reading a book called you'd are Badass by Jensen Serno. And she says in the book that everybody that she knows who's successful meditates. So I'm addicted to opiates and I'm addicted to alcohol, but I'm wanting to do something big with my life. And so I wake up one day with a hangover and I just do what the book said. I just downloaded Headspace and it changed my life. And then one day, the urge to drink was less and, like, everything was just clicking for me. When I first started meditating, it was for money. I wasn't like, chasing God because, like, you know, at the time I was like, God's still the guy who had me growing up and getting my ass kicked every day. And every time I called out to him, nobody showed up. But then you realize, okay, there's more here. And then in that knowing and in that exploration of self came and comes a connection to the creator. And then everything starts to speed up.
Welcome to the Hannah Hammond Show. I'm super excited to be here with one of my best friends in the whole wide world, Jamil Damji.
Hi.
And I'm actually. I can honestly say, and I know a lot of people. Jamil is one of my favorite people in this entire universe and has absolutely changed my life. We crossed paths about a year ago randomly. Randomly.
In a mall.
In a mall. Which I. You don't usually find me in malls and.
Me either.
Yeah, yeah, right. He was asking everyone.
I was asking people how they would make ten grand in a week if they had to. And my. My camera guy, Bobby knows you. And so he was like, go talk to her. And I'm like, oh, yeah, pretty blonde girl. I'll go talk to her. And you had, like, perfect answers. And then you had. You had known me. You. I think you were following me already by that time. And, yeah, we just hit it off and became like, incredible friends since then. So we've hung out a lot and it's a pleasure to be in your, your world.
Thank you. I'm so happy. And oh, my. I mean, you've seen the transformation in, in me.
Oh, my goodness. Yeah.
Since I met you. And like, I was so insecure, couldn't be on camera. I was like, you better not post this. Don't record me. And you're like, well, it's already been filming the whole time and I am going to post it.
So.
And then, you know, you invited me to lunch and then of course, you bring your cameraman. I wasn't prepared for that either. And that got me over the fear of all of cameras and photos and things like that. And now here I am.
You killed it, by the way. I got so many messages from people saying that woman is, like, incredibly inspiring. And you really spoke to a lot of, a lot of women and I'm sure a lot of men as well, just with how intelligent you are and how you would approach life. And some of you, the things that you've gone through in your world. So it's, it's, it's really interesting and also super refreshing for somebody as successful as you to allow themselves to be vulnerable and to just share realities of what they've gone through and the things that are hard for them. There's so many people are just putting a facade up of, oh, everything is great, I'm perfect, everything's that nothing could be better. I don't, I don't crack, and I've never had hard times. I'm just this perfect thing. And who's that? No one. And so nobody can really resonate with that messaging or even if, like, you're only presenting the good things and, and you're not hiding the bad things, but you just don't talk about them, then you're not giving people permission to be fully themselves and fully real. Right. Which, when even our first interview, like, not that little one in the mall, but our first, like, sit down, lunch and we, we chatted. There were so, there was so much, there was so much that you shared and that really, I believe is important conversation pieces for people. So, yeah, it's great.
Well, and, and you. I didn't even know, like, I didn't know anything about spirituality or real personal development or breath work or plant medicine modalities or any of these really, you know, meditation and these really, really critical things that have, a lot of which have helped you get to where you are and for the audience, Jamil has He's the co founder of Keighley, which is a national real estate franchise. They have over 118 or around 118 locations nationally. He's the founder of Astro Flipping, which is the largest real estate wholesale training community in the country with over 4,500 students. He's done hundreds of millions of dollars of revenue throughout his companies. He's done over 7,000 wholesale transactions. One of the biggest, if not the number one wholesaler he in the country. And he's just built an absolute empire from nothing and, and from a very challenging childhood as well, and different battles that you had to fight growing up and then to build these incredible empires. And what's so impressive is not just that you've built such incredible companies and such incredible communities and so many people look up to you and you help people make millions of dollars and achieve financial freedom. But you have done that through true, healthy and balanced and through the mission of self actualization and trying to reach your highest potential. It's not just. You haven't just been money hungry and you've had bad relationships and have had bad spirituality and bad health and all these things. Like you have really been on this pursuit of reaching your highest potential and helping others do the same. And, and that's where me and you connect so well on too. And I've just. You, you opened my eyes to all those things that I never knew about. And now I have like, you practice every single day. You have massive companies to run and yet every single day you do a lot of time with breath, work and meditation and all of these things that, and I'll let you share your story, but I don't think you would be where you are today if you haven't done those things. And a lot of people say that, oh, I don't have time to do those. But in reality that helps you get to where you are. So like share your story and kind of where you came from. I know, you know, some of those struggles you had in childhood in particular, and then some of the things that you're working on today to continue to improve yourself and your businesses and your life.
Thank you. Yeah, it's, it's real. You know, I have, I have not had a perfect experience here on this planet. And you know, of course childhood was super difficult. I grew up in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Beautiful town. And unfortunately, in the time that I was growing up there in the, you know, early 80s, they were struggling with identity. I would say the East Indian population, which is, you know, my ethnic background, was starting to Come in droves into Calgary. And the people who were living there at the, you know, in the area that I grew up in were just completely shell shocked. They didn't know where all these East Indian people were coming from, why they were coming. And it was a culture shock for everybody and they didn't want us there. And so, you know, parents would speak in their homes and then their children would overhear it and there wouldn't be, it would, it would be really terrible things that they would, they were feeling and thinking and so the kids would then come to school and repeat the stuff that their parents were saying and, and take their aggression out on, on me and other kids from that community because of what they were hearing from their parents. So it's, you know, it's not really so much the kids fault and the parents were just ignorant, you know, but to put it into context, you know, my bully in elementary school is in prison right now for torture and murder.
Jeez.
So, like that's, that's the level of violence that I was surrounded by growing up. I was constantly being attacked. And then you become the attacker. Right. It's a cycle. So I, I, I got to a point where I snapped and I was not going to take it anymore. And then instead of people bullying me, I became the bully. And it was just this thing that was happening in my world and, and you know, unfortunately, you kind of have to look at yourself and, and accept it all and, and find ways to heal the trauma, find ways to forgive yourself for your parts in it and move on. And so it was difficult for me to do that. I can't say that I did it with grace. You know, when I first got into meditation, this is about a decade ago, I had already, I had already been through a financial collapse, personally. I had made a bunch of money in the real estate market from 2002 to 2006. Ish. 7.
Well, hold on. So can we back up just for a second?
Yeah.
So what, what happened to you, if you don't mind me asking? Like when you were bullied in school as a kid.
Yeah.
What were some of the things that they did to you?
And, well, what, you know, there's, there's a few, there's a few instances that are pretty scarring. You know, there was a, there was a time, there was a one afternoon. You know, we all had, they had this bike stand in our school like most schools do, where kids will go lock their bikes up. Ours was kind of in this, like in between two buildings. So it was a Hidden. But there were windows from the classrooms I could see in. And I ended up getting beat up and pulled into that bike area. And then they chained me up. They chained me up in there. From the end of lunch until after school. I sat there chained up to a bike rack from like noon till 3:30. And then the, the kids came and threw rocks at me until, you know, the caretaker came out and. And kind of like broke it up. And I, I literally crawled home. Like, I was in so much pain. I was bleeding from everywhere. Like, it was. It was terrible. And my parents called the school and were like, what's happening there? Like, this is, this, this is constant. He's always coming home beat up. What is happening? And they're like, well, you know, he's not that great of a kid. You know, it's probably something he's doing.
Wow.
And so even the administration in the school wasn't. They didn't get it. You know, they just. They couldn't understand. And they probably felt it themselves. You know, like, I can say these are human beings. And you think that everybody in authority has like, a rational mind and might be really, truly there for the good of all, but I don't think they were. You know, I think the principal was probably just as terrible and racist as the people who were beating me up. And so when they saw me, they just saw another brown kid who wasn't supposed to be there, and good, he's getting his ass kicked, right? And so, you know, that there, there was another time I got, you know, this kid broke a record and it was like the sharp edge. And they beat me up and then they cut me. They, like, they cut me with the record, you know, And I'm like, coming home with cuts and just. It's just. It was, it was insanity. It was really, really, really crazy. And it was like every day. It wasn't like, I got away from it for a couple of days, and then it would be cool for a week and then I'd get beat up. It was like every day, every single day, it was like something. Something going on. And, you know, then it was like, for me, because I grew up in a neighborhood where that you could then find things to help you, right? And so when I got my hands on the pistol, I was like, okay, try that again and see what happens, you know? And then I, I became the bad guy, you know, And I. And then I had my little reign of terror for a moment while I was stomping around town. And so it was, it was, it was Shitty. Yeah, it was all hard. And, you know, I'm. I'm. I'm grateful for the experiences because I know they shaped me into who I am, and I don't believe in accidents, and I know that that was really necessary for me to have gone through. And I'm still unpacking why, you know, But I know it was necessary. It toughened me up, and it definitely. It made me really know that I didn't want to continue living in a. Like an economic situation like that. Right. Because the reality was, is my parents would have loved to have moved. We just couldn't. You know, we. We. We couldn't do anything. It was. We were barely making it. My mom and dad both worked so hard. You know, my dad went to work six days a week, 12 hours a day, shoveling gravel at a truck stop. My mom was a data entry operator for. For her day job. And then she went and she would take a bus to a meat packing factory where she'd work a second shift. And my sister and I were raising ourselves, so we were what they called latchkey kids. We just had a. We had a key to the house, and we would come, we would leave when we left, and we come home when we come home. And it was her job to feed me and get me to bed, like, you know, get me up. And it's just. It was so hard. Right. And my mom and dad, they worked so hard and they. They tried so hard, and they. They did instill a lot of incredible values in me and hard work ethic. And my mom still found a way to remain positive through everything that we were going through. And so I do credit my mother for having a positive outlook in life and to. And for my resilience and toughness that I. That I continue to have. It's. That's 100% my mother. And we have a beautiful relationship still. I'm so blessed that both my parents are still alive. My mom's 82, my dad's 80, and I just spent Thanksgiving with them. They're just incredible humans. And I'm grateful for all of it. Right. Even the tough stuff.
Right? Yeah. Because it. It has such a. A huge impact on who you become. And it does become a. The biggest blessing because, I mean, show. Show me someone that's in a lot of pain and it's someone that was handed it all and had this cherry kush, perfect little life, you know, because it's just. It's a different level of depth and empath empathy, and there's no. There's no.
Why?
To really push them to, to get curious and ask the questions and go deeper inside of them and try to push the human potential because they don't have that. That incessant desire, that survival need. And so, so were you. I know for me, because I. A lot of scarcity, mindset, a lot of, you know, kind of lack of parenting, couldn't control my environment. Those types of factors growing up really drove me to wealth. I was like, I need to be wealthy. I need to take care of myself. The prop. The reason we don't have anything and the reason I'm not happy is because we don't have money. So I was really young and wanted to build wealth from a young age. Were you kind of similar to that or.
Okay. Yeah. So I started getting really industrious early. Like I had. I remember it's terrible. But I was in detention in middle school and it was a bad detention, so I had to be there like into the evening and one. And I was in the office for it. Right. And the people had already left. Like, imagine that. Like they're the. The administration's gone, secretaries are gone, and I'm still there in, in detention at like 6:30 in the evening. And I wasn't allowed to leave until, I think after the basketball practice when one of the teachers who was like signing me out was going to make sure that I was there, signed me out, and then I was done my detention. Well, I. I hear a printer going, right? And I'm like. So I'm. I'm looking and they're printing report cards. And I was like, oh, yes. Because there was a whole box of report card paper, like the paper they would print all of our report cards on. And so I picked up the box and I put it outside the school. And then I went back and I sat in my detention seat until school was. Until my detention was over. And then I was let out and I went and I took that box home and I sold report card fake report cards. What? Through all through middle school and high school? Yeah. I was the guy that if you screwed up in class, I. It was 100 bucks a page. Wow. For a report card. And the report card is usually like three pages long. And so every client was like 300 bucks. And we had four report cards a year. And everybody knew that I was the report card guy.
That's amazing.
It was terrible. I mean, but that was like. It was like my first little hustle.
And how old were you?
Well, I started in middle school, so I would have been like 13, 14.
Geez.
And it went right into, it went right into high school. Here's the worst part. So I made myself report cards too. And I, I end up getting expelled in the 10th grade for a fight. Like my first week of the 10th grade, I get into a really bad fight and so bad that they expel me. They're like, he can't come back. And I have him. I have a meeting with the superintendent of the Calgary Board of Education and my father. And where we go to the superintendent's office. It's in this like administrative building that's not on campus. It's like this other building kind of thing. It's this whole like scary. Where all the scary people are. And we go, and my dad, my dad's got conviction in him, you know, he's like. And he's going to tell them like, how could they expel such a good student? You know? And I'm not really thinking about what he's going to do when you get there. But you know, he like brings out all of my report cards and it's like, this guy is a straight A student. Like, how could you just expel him? Why don't you give him another chance? And she's. The superintendent's looking at, she's looking at it and your face just kind of crinkles. And I know at that moment I'm like, I'm screwed. And she goes and opens my file and she's like, sir, I. I'm really sorry, but none of these are real.
Oh my God.
These are, these are his records. And my dad just looked at me and I just put my head down and I'm like, I'm done. Like, I didn't know what else to say. I couldn't, I couldn't say anything. I just had to own it. And so, yeah, needless to say, they didn't let me back in. And I had to do summer school, grade 10, 11 and 12 so that I could graduate on time. And I did, I, I did graduate on time. But yeah, that ended kind of the. Yeah, I still made fake report cards after that, but I stopped using them. Yeah.
Yeah, because you were busted.
Yeah. So.
Okay, that's so funny. I didn't know that story.
That's a, that's a fun one. Bet you there's somebody who will watch this right now and be like, I got one of his favorite poor cards. I know because like if you wanted to have a good summer, you had to. And then the other thing too is if you got one, then you have to keep buying them because they would list all of your grades from the last semester on this next Smart on this. And so, like, if you. If I got you first semester, I got you second, third, even if you did better, you still had to come to me because, like, your first semester grades are there and you fake those, so you gotta. You gotta do the whole thing. So it was great. It was a racket.
So how'd you shift from selling fake report cards to getting into real estate?
Well, I got a job. So I was. I. I went to college and I, I did really well in my undergrad degree. I got a bachelor's of science in physiology. And I wanted to be a doctor. That's like the Indian thing to do, right? Like, you, you get out. I mean, we have a mutual friend now that you introduced me to that's an Indian doctor. And, and like Dr. Gupta will tell you, that's just what Indians do. That's how, like, that's how we win in life, right? So that's why you see so many Indian doctors, because that's our parents. Our parents dream is for their kid to be a physician. And all of us want to make our parents happy. So I do really well in my undergrad. I write the exam to get into medical school, and. And I don't get in. And I do really well, but I just don't get in. And it's interesting. Like, I have a cousin, we both share the same last name, and he cheats off me on the medical school entrance exam. And he ended up getting in, and I didn't get in. And I'm like, what the f is going on here? And I'm so upset by this. Like, I'm. I'm devastated because. Because I put all my eggs in this basket, and this was like, my ticket out of poverty. This was my ticket out of this, you know, hellish neighborhood and this terrible life that, that we were. We had to live because of economics. And, you know, my parents wanted more for me and I wanted to give them more. I wanted to do stuff for my parents and retire them and, and, and love on them back because they love me so much, and now I couldn't do it. And, you know, one of the things, though, that happened in that, when I didn't get into medical school is I. I actually came to a realization that another person got to decide for me what was going to happen. I outsourced my agency to somebody else. And that was the problem is when somebody else, you know, who knows what it was about Me that the guy who rejected my application didn't like. Maybe I looked like somebody he didn't like growing up. Maybe he was in a bad mood that day. Maybe he's. Him and his wife got into. I don't know, who knows? But that's humanity. That's just like, that's what happens in real life. People have days and then they take it out on people and that, and those decisions can completely change a trajectory of someone's life. And that's what happened. But it was the best thing that ever happened to me because had I done that, I would have been a crappy ass doctor right now, you know, and probably would have lost my medical license because I didn't want to be a doctor. You know, I wasn't, I wanted the money, right? And so the, that situation leads me into entrepreneurship. My, the girl I was dating at the time says, I have a friend and her sister has this media company. They, they build websites and stuff. This is like early 2000s. And they need a sales guy bad. Like they're hurting and they need somebody to come in and, and you know, you're really good on the phone. You know, I'm sure you could help them out. You, you kind of need the work. You just got, you know, released from jail. Like, you could probably, you know, do, do something here. You're not really hirable, you know, your medical school dreams are gone. Like, you know, why don't you give it a shot? And so I do. And in the first week that I was there, I sold more websites than they sold all quarter. And so I was like, hey, I will, I'll stay here and I'm going to, I'll kill it. But I want half the company to do that because I'm not doing this for like a wage. And they kind of were in a spot where they were like, dude, whatever, like we're gonna go bankrupt and out of business if we don't get this. So. Sure. And problem with that is that we were selling these six page websites for $600, like $100 a page. And I didn't know anything about like the building of them and because we're outsourcing them to Pakistan to get built and they were actually costing us $700 to make.
Oh, so that doesn't work.
It didn't work. No. And, but you know, cash was coming in and for a while it was good because like so much cash comes in. But then you're like at the end of the month, you're like, wait, why do we Owe more than what we brought in. And that was just happening every month. And we're getting deeper and deeper and deeper into a hole. But it puts me into proximity with my business partner there who was also doing real estate. His dad was a national, was, sorry, was a regional home builder. And they would buy these old bungalows and tear them down and build luxury duplexes on them. And I overhear him talking about a deal they're doing where they make 160,000 bucks. And I'm like floored at that kind of money. I can't, I can't even fathom what that would be like. And so I asked if I could get involved some way. And they're like, dude, you don't have any credit. You're not a realtor, like there's nothing you can do here. And then they just carried on talking, but what they were talking about was needing more building lots because they were like, we, we can't find enough of these houses. And so then I interject again and I'm like, well, what do you mean? And so they said, okay, well what we need are these houses that are on 50 foot lots by 110ft minimum. They got to be zoned R2 and they got to be in these areas of Calgary. And if you can find something like that, we'll buy it. And so I'm like, okay, cool, thanks. I walk my dog the next day and I actually live in one of these neighborhoods. I live in a basement suite rental in one of these neighborhoods. And I see the construction going on all around me. I hear it like it's there. It's really, it's in. It's almost impossible not to notice it. And I, I'm walking by a house that's for rent. Now I had tried to rent it like three months earlier, but it was like $200 a month too expensive for me to live in. And so that kind of tells you where I was economically at the time. Like $200 decided where I lived, right? But I called the for rent sign and I said, look, you seem to be having a hard time renting this thing. It's been available for three months and nothing. Would you sell it? And her answer was for the right price. What is that? 350,000. Okay, thank you, I'll call you back. And so I, you know, scurry to the office and I talked to my business partner and I think this was like the moment God winked at me. Because there was a way. There were two ways I could have asked the Question. I could have gone to him and said, hey, I can get this house right here for $350,000. What do you think? But I didn't do that. I went to him and I said, here's the. An address of a lady who wants to sell her home. What would you pay? And he was like, 400,000 all day.
Nice.
Yeah. And I'm like, got it. So now I don't tell him I can get it for 350. I keep that to myself. But, like, I'm like, how do I find 350,000 bucks? Like, who's going to loan me money? And nobody I know has money, but I call all my relatives just in case somebody has a HELOC or something that they could help me out with. And now remember, I'm the guy who didn't get into medical school and got arrested a bunch of times. So, like, they're like, not really going to give me 350 grand, but I still try, right? And I wasn't. It was a no everywhere. And. And then I went to the yellow pages, which is how I was selling websites. Anyways. I was just cold calling out of the yellow pages, and I looked up the, you know, the attorney section, and I get all the way down to the letter S. David Steed was the attorney who answered my call. And he didn't have a secretary. He was like, didn't have an ad. He just had his little number. He was like, really fresh out of law school at the time, like a new lawyer. And I told him the problem, and he's like, oh, that's easy. He's like, that's called a skip transfer. Like, enlighten me. He's like, well, you just need two contracts. You need one where you're a buyer, but you have to make sure that on the contract, you write your name and. Or nominee. And I said, okay. It's same thing as assignee In Canada. They use the word nominee. I'm like, okay, and then what? He's like, then on the second contract, you're the seller, and everything has to line up, except for the price is different because you're buying it for 350 and you're selling it for 400. And your name is going to change on the second contract. You're going to be the seller on that one. It's like. And everything else has to be the same. So the closing date, the closing attorney, who I imagine is me. So you write my name, my name there. And I said, okay. He's like, I'm going to email you the contracts. Just print them out and see what you can do. And if it's works, bring me the contracts here. I'll do my job. And if it all pans out, then I'll have a check for you at the end of a couple of weeks.
Wow.
And it worked. I got like $47,000 and change on that deal. And I was just like shocked. I'm like, whoa. Like, for a guy like me in that spot, $47,000 could have been $1 billion. Because it was. It shattered every limit in my mind in that regard. Like, I was like, I'm. I didn't cash that check for like four months.
Really?
I was scared. I folded it up and I put it in my wallet. Yeah. And I would show people and, and one guy was like, dude, that's gonna expire. Like, you have to catch that. He's like, and you've folded it so many times, it's gonna rip. Like, go to the bank and go put that money in the bank, dummy. And I'm like, okay. So I deposited it and I remember I bought a little. A GMC Jimmy, a little two door GMC Jimmy, a stick shift because I was driving a piece of crap. And then I would just drive around was like 15 grand for the car and the rest of the money I kept in my bank and give a little bit of money to my mom and I. And then I just drove around town looking for foreign signs. And I would get the newspaper and I would go to the classified section of the newspaper and I'd call all the for rents in the newspaper. And I just started wholesaling and it went, went bananas. And so I. That's how I get into real estate. And I do really well until I make the decision that I don't want to be a wholesaler. And we didn't call it wholesaling up there. I. The term wholesaler didn't become known to me until I moved to the United States and I started doing it here in, in Phoenix in 2012. Prior to that, I just called it a skip transfer. Like, we didn't. I didn't know what it was. I didn't know it was a thing here. You know, that like people were teaching people and that it was like a whole business model. I thought I invented it. Yeah. Like, I'm like, oh, wow, I'm the smartest guy in the world. Like, I, you know, figured this out. I called this attorney and I. And I got this thing and what a, what a neat hustle. Well, you know, it wasn't really my invention, but it was great. And you know, I know that, that God put it there for me because this is my path. Like it was. I'm supposed to do this and I'm supposed to help people do this, and I'm. And I'm supposed. There's so many, so many people in the office right outside of the podcast studio that we're in that whose lives I mentored, from like Austin, the owner, to Thomas, his main guy, to almost his entire team. They were all my staff at Keighley once upon a time.
Wow.
It's like there's, it's like, interesting just how many different people in, in the wholesaling space I've been able to work with and, and do things with. And it's great. It's like, it's such a blessing for me because so many lives are better because of it. So that's how I get into real estate.
That's amazing. That's such an I. I always pay attention to when I get goosebumps. And I got goosebumps. So you said you made the 47,000 or $50,000 check. And so that was like me, my first truck was 36,000.
Nice.
From selling real estate. And I, that, that same feeling, I was like, I don't know what to do now. What do I do? What do I do with this money and how do I invest it and how do I go make it more? And then. But it's so exciting because it's like the world is your oyster and you did it with minimal effort in the beginning. So. Yeah, but. And so, and then you mentioned you continued wholesaling and then you. You had a financial crisis at some point in your career.
Yeah, well, the market turned in zero. You know, I'd gotten myself into some creative finance deals and they were over leveraged and I couldn't debt service. And so those were hanging over me. And then also I. So those were all. Those are all, all like about to, you know, bomb on me. But then also I. There was a point where I was like, I don't want to keep being just a wholesaler. I want to do the work. I want to do the development. And so I moved from single family homes to apartment buildings because what I figured out was that there was a market anywhere there was a development project happening. So then my eyes started piecing together those dots and I would see all of these apartment buildings that were having. They'd have these big like, signs outside of them saying luxury condos in construction. So they were. They were converting all these old apartments into condominiums, and there was a handful of developers in town doing that. And so then I was like, okay, well, all I got to do is call the number on the sign and talk to whoever it is that picks up and ask them if they're looking for more buildings. And I did. And they were like, yeah, of course. And I'm like, cool. So I just do what I know how to do, which is drive around town, look for handwritten for ren signs and call them. And that's what I did. Started calling all these apartment buildings that had handwritten friend signs and started getting apartment buildings under contract. And I would make a hundred grand every time I'd flip those. So it was like standard. A hundred thousand was my fee on an apartment building, and developers were happy to pay. There was this one guy, his name was Dominic. He was this little dude, you know, maybe like five. Five chubby little guy, and he's the developer, and. And he wants to meet me. He's coming in from Monterey, California, and he's like, I want to meet this guy I bought all these buildings from. Like, who's this little hustler? And so I'm, like, excited, but also a little nervous. And he pulls up in a phantom. I. I'll, like, never forget it. And the girl that he was with was like, you, like, just.
Oh, thank you.
She's just, like, stunning, right? I'm like, oh, that's how you do it. Okay, Got it, right? So I'm like, this little dude and that. You got to do that. You got to be this guy, right? So I. So then I. That's what I decided. I'm like, I'm not going to sell these. I'm going to. I'm going to do the project. So then I get my sister in, and I'm like, hey, you know, do you want to. Do you want to do these with me? I can't do this by myself. I need help. And she's like, yeah, of course. And so my mom and dad get involved because I don't have, you know, credit, but my parents do. And so they helped me get construction loans. And we buy four buildings. And all the money that I made wholesaling, I put down as down payments. And the credit crunch happened. And then all those banks, they were able to just change the terms on the loans. And they said because I sold, I would. In order for me to get the construction financing, they wanted me to pre sell half of the bill, half of each. Building, right? So I'd set up a little sales center and I would sell half the building. And you know, people would come in, I show them the plan and you know, like, these are the finishes are we going to do? And, and if you want to buy one, you have to put $5,000 deposit down and sign a purchase contract and then we give it to the bank, right? So it was like not, it was easy and the market was going up. So there were also speculators, like putting down $5,000 deposits. It was like, it was a whole range of people, right? Speculators to like end buyers, all the things. And the bank calls us and says, hey, you know, your construction loans are all based off of these pre qualified buyers that we qualified, you know. But because these loans haven't been originated yet, we actually have to re qualify them because our lending change, our lending standards have changed with everything that's going on in the market right now. And so, you know, like, don't worry, we just need you to come have everybody come re qualify. So it'll be fine. And I'm like, okay. And then they call back a couple of weeks later, they're like, it's not fine. Like a quarter of the people requalified because you need a higher score now. They need higher down payments and they don't have access to that. And so we're going to have to call these construction loans. And I'm like, you can do that. Like I'm in the middle of this, of these projects, like, how am I going to pay you? They're like, try to sell them. I'm like, who's going to buy them? They're like, when I bought them, they were rented out. Like these were like units apartments. It's a shell now. Like they're worth less than what I paid for because it's all been hollowed out. We're rebuilding and bank didn't care. So they took all of it. They took. So I lost all the money from the down payments. But they also took our homes.
Wow.
So. And we had signed personal guarantees. So they took my mom and dad's home, our home, the one I was living in. It took our cars.
Oh my God.
And so there was this a point where we were all living in a two bedroom, one bath apartment. It was like my mom, my dad, my sister, my niece, our dog and our cat all in a two bed, one bath apartment. And it was hell. But it was still, like I say hell because it was sad because my sister and I had bought my mom A house on a lake for Mother's Day. And we lost that home, and that sucked. And I had this home on, like, the, like the hill that overlooked the city. It was beautiful. It was this glass modern, just beautiful home. Now, if I'm going to be really honest, I wasn't happy. I was an alcoholic at the same time. And, like, if you were ever to come into that house and look like I didn't even have any real furniture in there, you know, I was like, it was like, kind of barren. I had my bedroom set up, and I had the living room set up. But, like, it was, it was like, it was kind of like, it was stat. It was sad. It was sad. And I was sad because I, I, it was, I was, I had made money, but I didn't have any real people in my world other than my, my family. I remember on my 20, on my 29th birthday, you know, I'm supposedly this, like, rich guy in town, and I have all these friends who are apparently love me. Right. And I invite all these people to my birthday party and. And they're like, yeah, yeah. So many people had, like, said they were going to come and no one came. Wow. Not one person. Not one person showed up. And I was like, this is like, you know, and so, so though they were friends I had because of my money, they weren't really my friends. Right. The girl I dated wasn't really my girlfriend. She was. I basically rented her.
Yeah.
You know, and when the money was gone, so was she. She happened to be a police officer, of all things. Terrible. It was, it was terrible. It's toxic. Yeah. And. And let me tell you another thing, like, looking back behind the things, because I was like a kind of a street kid. So, like, dating a cop was kind of like a, Like, I was like, you know, but like, cops aren't what we think.
Yeah.
Either.
Very traumatized people.
They're. They go, they go through a lot of. And, and what goes on behind the scenes, they're just, They're a lot of times worse than the criminals that they're locking up. So just saying that, you know, for all those people like that have these, like, judgment attitudes, like they're better than other people or they may be judging me because they're like, oh, he was arrested. It's like, listen, those who arrested me, now that I know, seen behind the curtain of what goes on, they're no better.
Yeah. But anyways, yeah, I've, I, I dated a. Someone in the law enforcement as well and had a very similar Experience. But, you know, it's like everybody. There's some really good people out there, and there's some.
Exactly. I don't want to paint it like that. There's some great human. I'm sure there's some great law enforcement people. You know, actually, I'm friends with the deputy chief of police of Scottsdale.
Oh, wow.
And he's amazing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's. There's some good ones, for sure, all around the board. But there's, you know, I think. And that's what we talk about. And we'll say it'll be a good segue into the personal development and meditation and connection and all those things is so many people have so much trauma, whether they know it or not, and that carries on to their adulthoods and carries on to the. The decisions that they make every single day in their lives subconsciously from things that have been instilled in them or experiences that happen to them or not. Feeling seen or heard or protected or being abused, whether it's emotional abuse, physical abuse, sexual abuse, having lack of food or shelter or finances, or just loving touch and loving parents who are there to provide and protect and to truly love you. And like, all these things create traumatized children that just turn into traumatized adults that just have addiction problems, whether it's work addiction, money addiction, sex addiction, food addiction, alcoholism, drugs, or any of those things. Severe relationship issues, you know, people who can't have healthy relationships. Disease, internal health issues, whether it's mental. Mental health and depression, anxiety, which I've suffered from a lot off my antidepressants for almost two months now. Yes, thank you. And then. But in physical disease, too. And so. But we're not taught these things. Like, I didn't know what trauma was or what meditation was or what any of these things that have truly impacted my life were. And we don't know unless we really seek them out and question and not just keep doing the same things that we have always done, which is what most people do, because that's what's easy, that's what's familiar, and that's all we know.
Where you get addicted to it. The status quo, right. You're. Your body produces. Like, you know, if you ever know those people that, like, they. They just tell you about all the miserable things going on, like, and how hard it is for them. Like, it's like, oh, my God. So there was a guy here in Phoenix. I'm not going to say his name, but his wife passed away of cancer. And, you know, the first time I ever meet him, he was like, hey, man, nice to meet you. Within 30 seconds, he was like, my wife died of cancer. And I was like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. I'm really sorry. Like, oh, terrible. He's like, yeah, I got four kids. Oh, my goodness, dude. Like, let's be friends, you know? And like, I'm. I'm like, I become in the. Kind of becoming this guy's world. And, you know, he. It's not that. Like, he. He was. He was really nice in some ways, and in other ways, he was flawed like everybody. But he would. He would do shady stuff in business, right? Like, he'd sell a house he didn't have under contract so that he could take your emd, you know, like, and he would have you deposit the EMD directly to him. And then the deal wouldn't be real, and then the EMD would be cashed. And he's like, sorry, I'll get it to you later. I'm like, bro, that's not how this works.
Yeah.
You know, and. Or so. Or he would have something under contract, and there was like, you know, there was a thing. There was always a thing going on in the deals. And then when you would call him out on it and you'd be like, dude, like, I'm gonna smack you, you know? And then he'd say, my wife, she had cancer and I gotta take care of these kids. And it was always the same thing, right? And he was addicted to the. The pain of the cancer. He was addicted to the story. And then his kid gets cancer and, you know, it's all over Facebook. My kid has got the cancer and my wife died of the cancer, and now the kids got cancer, and it's just like, everybody, you know, I need you. I need. I need the sympathy. I need the. I need the, like, you know, I need that. I can't. Like, he's like. He needed the juice from. From everybody's sympathy. It was. Became his. His drug.
Yeah.
And. And then he died. Not the kid. He died. Yeah, he just, like, brought it all on himself, you know? Like. And like, he was such an example of, like, of how you can, like, totally F yourself in that frequency, you know, because your body produces chemistry that's in alignment to that frequency, and no matter what it is, your body becomes habituated to something. So if you are feeling great, working out, you know, being, saying positive things to yourself, doing meditation, breath, work, you know, all the things in your. You're. You're being healing, you're doing things that are raising your vibration. Your body will create chemicals that are in alignment to that process and your body becomes addicted to them. Right? Like, if you ever meet those people who work out all the time and like, I work out all the time. I don't look like I do, but I work out all the time. And if I don't work out, I feel terrible. Like I feel like a drug addict who doesn't have his drug. I need the endorphins, I need the, I need the chemicals that my body produces from the workout, right? So we all get habituated, we all get addicted to a life and it's like, what are you going to get yourself habituated to? What are you going to make your body thrive on? You know? And that's where for me the, the world of personal development got brought in. Because when I moved here, I was just about to get married to Natalie and she had Taylor with her, who was 8 at the time. I have a daughter from a previous relationship who I have to take care of and I'm about to get married and I'm like, ah, I'm not really doing much, you know, Like, I, I, I was, I was a failed comedian in la. I went to Com. I didn't make it as a comedian. I did okay. I was, you know, I, I worked for four years, but I didn't become Kevin Hart. So you guys don't know me for comedy, right?
But you're pretty funny.
But I do like laughing. I do love to laugh.
Your GD commercials always get me.
There was a great. And that got, you know, kind of was, it was, it showed me that comedy was a part of my journey and I needed it to like, get a bigger audience and to attract more people. So that's cool. But I remember I'm reading a book called you'd are Badass by Jensen Sereno and this yellow book. And she says in the book that everybody that she knows who's successful meditates and she can't explain why and she doesn't know the science behind it and she doesn't know if there's a real correlation here. But everybody that she knows who's successful meditates. So she's like, I tried it. And lo and behold, things in my life just started getting better again. I don't know why and I don't know how and I really don't care. What I can say is my life has become exponentially better since starting. So if you're trying to make something change in your life, maybe try it right and so here I am, an alcoholic, right, addicted to pain pills because I had a car accident where I broke my neck and almost passed away. And so I'm. You know, I constantly have this, like, these sharp pains in my cervical spine, and they. You know, the pains go down my arm and whatnot. And so, like, you know, nothing felt better to me than a couple of Percocets and a. And a strong beer. I'm like, oh, that's. I'm in heaven, you know, which is a terrible place to be. And so I'm addicted to opiates, and I'm addicted to alcohol. But I'm wanting to do something big with my life, and I know that I can do it, but I've got all these problems. And so I wake up one day with a hangover, and I just do what the book said. I just downloaded Headspace, and I, you know, put that little British guy on for five minutes, and it changed my life. Like, I. You know, was my first meditation amazing? No. Did I see God? No. But did I feel like I could do that again? Yeah. And so I did it again and again and again and again and again and again and again. And then one day, the urge to drink was less, and then the pain started dissipating, and then the urge for the medication started to go away, and then it started to all fall off. And my life just kept getting. Just kept getting better and better and better, and I was meeting better and better people, and I was randomly coming into these amazing deals, and, like, everything was just clicking for me. And then it was like, whoa. I'm, like, riding the bike, you know? And that's how it felt. It felt like when you were a kid and you didn't know your dad was behind you and hadn't let go, and you're riding, and, you know, that's like. I'm like. I'm riding the bike I'm on. I'm in life right now, and I'm actually killing it. This is amazing. And I can. I can trace it back to. To meditation. And so I'm like, what is happening with this? You know? And so, like, when I first started meditating, it was for money. I wanted money. I wanted a better life. I wasn't, like, chasing God because, like, you know, at the time, I was like, God's still the guy who had me growing up in. In northeast Calgary getting my ass kicked every day. And every time I called out to him, nobody showed up. So, whatever, you know? But if this is, like, getting me some money, Then let's get to it, you know, but then you realize, like, oh, okay, there's more here. And, and then that's where like, my journey became not just about, like, what can, what can I gain from this? But what can I know of myself through this? And then in that knowing and in that exploration of self came and comes a connection to the Creator. And then everything starts to, like, speed up. And then the connections that you make are more deep and real and are of higher quality. And that just snowballs. And then you're like, well, I, I, I, what am, what's going on in my life right now? These, all these synchronicities and all these things are happening, and you're like, oh, wait, I'm waking up. And then you realize that there's more in this world and into this reality than what we've been told and what we've been taught and our conditioning and that there's a deeper sense of reality that exists in an energetic field. And then you start to, like, dive into the science behind it, and you start realizing, like, oh, my God, like, I've been living in the Newtonian world where I had to force everything, which is a real thing, you know, and that's like the hormozy camp of, you know, come home from your day job and work all night and don't rest on the weekends, and you'll get there. And he's right, he's not wrong when he says that you'll get there by, by killing yourself and working yourself to the bone. You'll absolutely get there. There's no doubt in my mind. But you can also get there in a, in a better way, in an easier way, if you ask me. And you can get there by creating it in the field first. You create it in energy, and then you align to it, and it's just amazing how much less it requires of that. You know, what it does require of you, though, is going in and really, really, really looking at what's happening, right? Because, you know, there was a time in my life where so many achievements, right? Television show, Astros blowing up. My socials are blowing up. I'm making more money than I'd ever made, and my neck re. Breaks and my wife leaves, and I'm like, all the things that I thought were, were important to me that I, that I, the labels I put on myself, it was like the, the analogy I, I think of all the time is like a Christmas tree. You know, you're a Christmas tree in a living room, and you got all these Ornaments. And all the ornaments are my achievements, you know, like a TV show. I got this, I got that. I got this. You know, 7,000 deals, whatever. All the little ornaments, right, that you just listed off a bunch of them when you were introducing me. Those are all ornaments. But, you know, along comes a gust of wind and shakes the tree and all the ornaments fall off and they're shattered on the ground. And then you're standing there naked and you're like, none of these things matter because I've been pretending to be this thing that I'm not. Right. And then you go deeper again and then. And there comes an even more beautiful, fulfilling unfoldment. But it. It all comes from like stripping away of these, like false things. These. These concepts and these ideas of ourselves that we put on ourselves. And, and they're just ways to identify the ego. It's just ways to reconstruct and re. Identify what is our. Our ego or is, you know, your Hannah Ness and my Jamilness. Right. But like, you know, the reality is, is that. That we're just like in an energy soup, you know, and that's actual what actually what's happening. But we just have these. Because our brain is. Is reducing so much information that it's getting to like we're seeing so little. And so then I just think that, oh, this is me, you know, in this body. And the thoughts, these are me. When it's actually not true.
Yeah, it's. It's astonishing. I mean, you're the one that introduced me to Joe Dispenza and I've been reading all his books. I'm rereading Supernatural right now and the Law of Attraction. Have you read that book by the Hicks?
Yeah.
Yeah. And just learning about the science behind it all and how we know nothing, we know so little. And there's so. I mean, the universe is insane. It's so complex and it's so true. How these things completely transform your life and how things start to flow easier to you. And my whole life was always forcing, you know, I'll just win by sheer will and outworking and more hours. And everything was a force. Newton's law. And now that I've. I mean, what kind of started my journey that the universe started coming to me with it because I needed it. Like the medicine is calling type situation.
And yeah, it was really interesting with you because you were definitely there. There were messages trying to get to you.
Yeah.
You know, and interestingly enough, some came through me and some came through other people. But you know, when those Invitations come. And I remember pointing it out to you. I was like, Hannah, you know, these are invitations that I'm not making the invitation. It's not an I do make an invitation. It's not this person making the invitation. This thing needs you. This thing is calling you. And it's not my business and it's yours. But I'm the messenger here in this one instance, telling you that somebody that something's knocking at your door and whatever that is, you have a responsibility to find out. And there away you went. And you know, I've been watching you since and I'm just like, look at this girl go. So cool.
It's been an amazing transformation and I never would have thought of myself. You know, it sounds, when you haven't experienced it, it sounds so woo woo. And it's just beyond your capacity to think, I guess. And you're like, well, how does that make sense? Because all, all that we have ever known is just difficulty and force and.
And this dimension.
Yeah, in this dimension I know, you.
Know, and like you can, through breath work, meditation, plant medicine, you come to learn that this is one of many, many dimensions. And you can, you can, you can travel.
Yeah. I remember the first time I did breath work was with you. And I couldn't even believe the feeling. I still can't even explain it, but it was so much happening in my body and I saw visions of me speaking to thousands of people. And remember, this is camera shy, insecure, self loathing Hannah at the time and then had just this overwhelming feeling of joy throughout my whole body and so much energy that I could feel being released out of my body that was just stored inside of me that I didn't even know I had. And then the first time I did ketamine at Dr. Gupta's clinic for those. He's one of my real estate clients. I'm in commercial real estate. But I mean, I became, I went into this void in this infinite realm and I literally was just awareness and I had no sense of earth or ego or problems or identity. It was just pure consciousness and awareness. And I came out of that and I was like, oh my God, I know nothing. Like this little piece of reality that we know it to be is so minute. And it was so amazing to go into a place where you can create and you can exist without any thoughts or without any problems or without any ego or attachment or pain or anything. And you know, and then I've had crazy transform transformational journeys on psilocybin where I realized how much Pain was in my body and how empty I was despite all, every wealth, achievement that I ever accomplished. It didn't fill those holes inside of me or make me feel fulfilled. And that's a lot of what called me to this type of work.
And the psilocybin is interesting because it's one of those medicines that I think gets misused a lot like by young people and whatnot, because they like don't understand it's ceremonial, you know, and you got to do it ceremonially with the right people and set and setting is incredibly important. But it was really big in my journey for healing the, the breakup because in one of those sessions I got to experience my marriage from her perspective. And I'll tell you what I mean, I bawled my eyes out because I got to feel her pain and what she went through. And you know, it was so healing because when it was over, you know, I remember talking to her the next day and I said, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry for all of it, you know, and, and then, you know, when I could meet her there, like, we're the best of friends now, you know, like, like legit. She's like one of my best friends and will always be. Like the romantic relationship isn't the requirement for us to know each other like the, the love and the kindness and the care and the empathy and the just I got you and I know she's got me, you know, and that's my ex wife, you know, and how many people out there have that kind of a relationship with an ex that they were married to for 10 years? You know, that they'd say that this is the best human being that I know, hands down. Like it's rare but, but like the medicine was helped, helped me do that. Right? Because I gu. I got to see, I got to see the purity of, of, of where she was coming from.
Yeah.
And so, you know, people, they, they judge it or sometimes they just don't understand it, you know. But I believe that psychedelic therapy in the future is the, is going to be incredibly important for people in freeing themselves of so much pain and so much nonsense that media and our conditioning and trauma has put on us. And people with ptsd, people with addiction, depression, ADD are coming out healed from these psychedelic journeys. And even the FDA is starting to really look at them and approve some of these for these off label uses. And I'm hopeful with RFK and our next administration that, because I know he's a proponent and I have a feeling that we'll be able to push forward more legislation that will get people who need this help, the help they need.
Yeah, I'm excited. And I think it, of course, it has to be used appropriately and it is a ceremony, and I've always done it with a shaman, and there's the whole process behind it. And it's different than doing mushrooms with your friends in high school. You know, it's very, very, very different. But it's so therapeutic. And when it's tied to therapy and other modalities and integrations, uh, it's been absolutely transformational for me. The. The few journeys that I've done. And I had the same experience where I, for the first time, felt I was in the shoes of each one of my family members. And I felt so much compassion for each and every one of them. And I realized how much pain that they were in and the battles that they were fighting have fought and still fight today, and how it wasn't about me. You know, just because there were things done that hurt me, it wasn't about me. And I was completely missing their pain and not seeing anything from their shoes. Because when you're a child, you can't. You just see it from your point of view and then it's ingrained in you like, oh, there's that trauma, right? And so that released a billion pounds from my chest. And I called all my family after that experience and I apologized, crying to all of them and told them how much I love them. And it was like more than years of therapy could ever do. And then. But mixed in, the integration with the therapy is so critical. But it was very transformative to me. And yeah, I mean, just over this past year of being on this journey, I've gone from highly depressed, anxiety addiction, high add, adhd. And now I can say that. I mean, I'm. I'm not. I don't take any medication anymore. I very rarely will ever drink or do any. I used to smoke weed every day. I don't do any of that anymore. I'm truly happy, like, every single day of my life and every day is a work in progress. But now I'm present and aware and I don't carry that. That baggage and that resentment and that tightness and tension that I would carry with me every single day. And it's been life changing.
That's so cool. Yeah, what a thing. And, you know, I. I think that these conversations and, and people of influence like yourself and, and me and others who are open to being vulnerable and sharing their experience and, and kind of demystifying it, but then also like removing the, the BS that's attached to it. Like, guys, the reality is, is that there's forces out there that don't want you healed. There are, there are, there are institutions out there who profit off of your brokenness, from the pharmaceutical industry to political groups, food lobby groups. Like, there is a lot riding on your misfortune.
Yeah.
And that's disgusting, but it's real, it's happening. And you know, there. How many documentaries do we got to see about just the food we eat before we make changes on what we put in our mouth? You know, how many documentaries or how many, how many exposes have to happen in the government to. I mean, you know, it's hilarious right now just watching all of these cases get dismissed against President elect Trump. And it's like, you guys were like, you nailed him. You guys were trying to crucify this guy, you know, and now he's going to be the president again. You're all like, oh, charges dismissed, charges drop. Why? Oh, because the administration is going to come in and they're going to get your job. They're coming for your heads. Right? There's so much corruption out there. It is gross and there. Look, I'm, I'm not a political guy. I don't want anybody to think that me saying this says that I'm for this candidate or for this other candidate. I think politicians in general suck. You are the master of your destiny. That's it. You get to decide. You get to wake up tomorrow and decide what is my future going to be? Who am I going to be in my mind? Who am I going to be in my speech? Who am I going to be in my actions? What identity do I embody and how am I going to move in the world? And these little decisions that you make, they make a huge difference. It was like this. I was, I was talking to somebody about. They're like, well, jam. How the hell can, can, you know, meditation or raising my frequency really make a difference? I was like, okay, well, let's walk through an example, right? Let's just say you leave your house one day and you're in a crap mood and you make a right turn and this person slams into the back of your car and they come out of the car and they, they're terrible with you. You get into like a road rage incident and now it's just escalated into all kinds of garbage. Right? Okay. That, that could have been a thing that happened. All right, well, let's just say that Morning instead of just waking up and eating cornflake or Frosted Flakes for breakfast at, like, a nice meal. And you actually worked out and maybe did some breath work and did some meditation and really got your frequency up. And then you make that right turn and that person slams into the back of your car and they come out all attacking at you, and you actually bring them down a level. And then they're like, I'm really so sorry. I have. I don't know. And then they just share with you what's going on and that they really didn't mean to do this. And, like, now it's not a big thing. Now you've made a positive effect on this person. Now the accident was going to happen. The accident was going to happen, but how you responded to it completely changed. And in business, it's the same thing. Like, say you're doing lead generation and you're in a crap mood, and the way that you're talking to people is reflective of how you feel and your shortness and your tone, and everything is an energy is being presented that is creating friction on the other line. Whereas you could be in a completely different vibe making those same calls. And what's interesting is the people who, like, resonate with your vibe, with how you are actually, like, vibrating at that moment. Those are the ones who are going to answer your calls. They'll be the ones who are like, oh, I'll pick up this call today. And that could lead to a massive deal for you. But people, they're like, I can't see tangibly how this is going to help me. So I don't have time for it. Like you had said earlier in the podcast, my friends, it's not about how much time you. You don't have time not to do it. Like, you are spinning your wheels out there on an ice rink because you can't create the traction that you need in your life because you're looking for it outside of you.
Yeah.
And the moment that you realize that it's all in you, everything changes. That's where the road meets the rubber.
Yep. And when you meditate and do that practice, you can create whatever life that you want. You go in there and you build. And Law of Attraction book calls it going to work in your workshop. And you, throughout the day, you think of. You collect data of everything that you like. Like, maybe you see a house that you really like, or you see a relationship that you really like, or aspects of it. You see a body that you really like and would love to have you see a lifestyle that you'd love to have. You see a personality way of being that you'd love to have. And you start collecting these data points and you go do 20 minutes a day in your workshop of meditation. And you create what you want in your life and you manifest that. And she says that the law of attraction is at play whether you know it or not. Right. You're. You're everything in your life. You are creating everything all of us are consciously or.
Or unconsciously.
Exactly. And so she said if you're focusing on what you don't want, you are attracting that. And so if you're like, I really don't want to get sick, I really don't want cancer, I really don't want this, like, you are attracting that into your life. Or if you're like, I really don't want this cold call to hang up on me. I really don't want them to tell me to off or whatever, you are attracting that into your life. And so the importance of always creating what you do want in your life and that naturally will resist and repel what you don't want. But so many people get so caught up on the things that they don't want, the things that they're afraid of, the things that they can't do, whatever their limitations are, whatever their problems are. And so they'll just continue to attract all of that into their life.
Yeah, it's just fear. Yeah, it's the frequency of fear. And it's, it's the. It's buying into the notion that we're separate, you know, And I think that's one of the things that when you really do wake up, you realize is that, oh, crap, you're connected to all of it. Like everybody and everything. And that's incredibly powerful and also super scary because if you're an asshole and you're doing wrong out there, well, energetically, the people that you're doing wrong to know it for real. And the ones you're hurting out there know it even. You might think you're crafty, you might think you're slick, but you're not. What's done in the dark always comes to light. It always does. And you're connected to everything. And so it's not about getting away with stuff. It's about, like, how would you live if you knew that everything you saw and everything that you did was out there? How would you live? Because it is only you think. You, in your limitation, think that you're separate from all of it. So you get to live this private little ass life where you, you know, cheat and lie and do all kinds of terrible things and you lie to yourself more than anything. Because, like, how many times do I hear from people on social media, it's like, oh, I tried this thing, but it doesn't work. How many times did you try? Every time I call. This is what happens. Like, every time. So you got called twice. Because statistically that's not possible. Because if you do one thing a thousand times, there is zero chance that you're going to get the same result a thousand times. So you didn't do it a thousand times. You did it twice, and you're giving up on yourself after two tries. But, bro, then you don't deserve it. You don't, like, just. Then look at yourself in the mirror and be like, I'm lazy and I'm going to own it. I'm going to be. I'm going to own being lazy. I like my job. I'm happy with the status quo in my world. Own that, then just. And then be happy. Because you don't need to have all of this. You don't need the watch, you don't need the car. You don't need the financial freedom. You can. You can be a really cool dude and really happy just being honest and true with what you and, you know, accepting what you have. But if there's something in your heart that says that this is. You're meant for more, then every time that you bitch out and don't do the work and don't do the thing and don't look inside and don't. And don't work on yourself. It's just another day that you decided, no, the. The lie was more important than my future.
Yep.
What do you want are you gonna do? And you, friend, have been a massive example of that. Like, you're showing the people who follow you exactly how it's done by. By taking life by the, you know, by the horns and really, really get into the. To the meat of it. And, you know, the more you do this work and the more you inspire people and the more you create content like this, I think, you know, there'll be thousands of people in Hannah's wake that are. Are going to be affected by you and say, thank you so much. Thank you for talking about the things that people are afraid to talk about.
So thank you. Yeah, I appreciate.
Keep going.
I love you.
Love you back.