Happy, Rich, and Free: The Blueprint Revealed | Robert Kiyosaki

This YouTube interview between Robert Kiyosaki and Hannah Hammond centers on entrepreneurship, continuous learning, and inner personal development. Key points: Hannah’s origin from a working-class family and early commitment to real estate and entrepreneurship; HP Capital is described as a commercial finance firm raising debt and equity for commercial real estate (from ~$1M to $100M+); repeated emphasis on lifelong study, seminars, and skill-stacking (sales, capital raising, public speaking); the importance of inner work (healing parental trauma, Landmark/EST-style courses) as foundational to external success; and an event frame—Real Estate Investor Summit cruise with a theme of "navigating the winds of change" and a claim that 2025 is a rising year for women.
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I shut down Rich dad because I constantly study. I never stopped studying. I'd have books, studies inside my company and things like this. Finally there was an revolt by the staff that said, f you, we're not going to study anymore. We don't want to study anymore. I'm like, how can you not study today? Because things are changing so fast. What they teach you in school is so old and so seminars are how you stay ahead of the time and all this. And I keep talking to her, she's always studying.
Stay relentless. We can truly create the life that we want. We maybe can't have it all at once. And there's always a sacrifice and a price to be paid. And it's always about who, not how. Because we don't always know exactly what to do. But if we can find the right who's to help us accomplish, help our goals or help us learn and grow, and also the right who's who, we can serve and be very valuable to them, then you can accomplish whatever you want.
Hello, this is Robert Kiyosaki and this is my friend Hannah Hammond. And we're just friends. So she's honestly drop dead gorgeous. And she was introduced to me by another dear friend, Joel Polish. And he said, you gotta meet this woman, Hannah. And he said, hannah's a multimillionaire, self made everything. And so every time I try and call Hannah about something, she was always in the seminar, I'm in Las Vegas or I'm in Orlando, I'm this, she's always studying. And then so I said, look, maybe you should be one of the speakers now because who's on the stages all the time with me as speakers are these all white guys? And they said, we need some hotties up there on the stage who actually practice what they teach. So last night we were having dinner with this guy from Singapore and he said, on the Chinese calendar, 2025, here's the rise of women. So I said, timing is perfect. So I want you introduce Hannah Hammond. Would you mind giving us a little your background, please?
Thanks, Robert. Robert's been my childhood hero since I read his book Rich Dad, Poor dad when I was 13 years old. And it truly became my lifeline of hope to get entrepreneurship and build financial freedom and generational freedom. And it's been amazing to actually have you as my mentor and greatest friend in real life now and be your protege and learn from you. And you're just the best at what you do and the most amazing, engaging speaker. And you have such an incredible capacity to take complex systems or topics and break them down into very simple terms that literally billions of people can understand. And you've changed the way the entire world sees money and have created a lot of wealth and happiness out there. So thank you.
Thank you. Because you're gonna take over from an old guy like me. So were you born rich or no?
Yeah. No. My mom worked at the grocery store. My dad worked at the pawn shop. And there was a lot of scarcity and pain in our home. And I remember When I was 7 years old, I asked my dad for an Oreo McFlurry, and he said, no, Hannah, we can't afford it. And that was the day that I decided I was gonna be a millionaire. And I yelled at him, saying, I'm gonna be rich so I can buy McFlurry. And then at 13, I read your book, and I knew as soon as I turned 18, I was gonna get my real estate license and start investing in real estate and somehow start a business and become be in the business of real estate as well.
Yeah. And you're. And you're made financially free, multimillionaire. And she's always had great teachers, like, Joe Polish is fabulous teacher. Right.
Joe Polish is amazing. And you and a few other very critical mentors in my life. Garnett Morris is one of them as well. And I think just learning and growing every single day and trying to push ourselves to become a higher version of ourselves every single day and show up better, not only for ourselves, but for the world.
So I've invited Hannah to come on on tour with me, like going to China or Singapore or Europe, and she can speak to men and women, because, like I said that the guy from Singapore said the Chinese calendar is 2025 is a year of women starting to rise up. And I think it's about time, because I notice none are going down right now. Not as strong. So, anyway, so what advice would you have to young women about entrepreneurship and being your own boss and all those things and being a rich woman?
Stay relentless. You can have whatever you want. I think in this world, we can truly create the life that we want. We maybe can't have it all at once. And there's always a sacrifice and a price to be paid, but it's all about embracing the wind, embracing the storms. We're here on the real Estate investor Summit cruise, and that's the theme of this year, is navigating the winds of change. And we're. When we're able to master the craft of embracing the wind and learning how to adapt our sails and tack, which is a sailing method where you move forward even when the wind is against you, then anything is possible. And just staying absolutely tenacious and relentless and surrounding yourself with the people that are going to help you grow and learn. And because people want to see you succeed and people want to help you. And it's always about who, not how, because we don't always know exactly what to do, but. But if we can find the right who's to help us accomplish our goals or help us learn and grow and also the right who's who we can serve and be very valuable to them, then you can accomplish whatever you want.
Also, you're always in seminars, right?
Always learning. Every single day I'm learning. Yeah.
And this is the reason it was near and dear to my heart is because I shut down Rich Dad. Because I constantly study. I never stop studying. And I'd have book studies inside my company and things like this. Finally, there was a revolt by the staff that said, fuck you, we're not going to study anymore. We don't want to study anymore. I went, how can you not study today? Because things are changing so fast. What they teach you in school is so old. And so seminars are how you stay ahead of the time and all this. And so meanwhile my company was saying F you to me about studying. And I keep talking to her. She's always studying. So I think that's why I wanted to have her. Because you're actually like the people studying today with the class. Right. But today's the first time she's going to be a teacher.
Yeah. I'm excited. Talking about the 2025 CRE lending playbook and how to navigate the winds of change.
And then what kind of how did you. What kind of business are you in right now? What is HP Capital?
Yeah. So HP Capital is a commercial finance company. So we help raise capital for commercial real estate projects both on the debt side and the equity side. And all asset classes nationwide from million dollars to 100 plus million dollar loans and different development projects. So it's a lot of fun. And came from the real estate commercial real estate brokerage side. I still am an owner of a commercial real estate brokerage in Arizona and have been an investor since I was 18. All thanks to you.
Thank you. And the other part about it is she's going to speak as a. It's a little too narrow to raise hundreds of millions of dollars. So I'm asking her topic to be entrepreneurship because a lot of times men more entrepreneurs but Also how to raise capital, because raising capital is one of the main things an entrepreneur does, and a person can't raise capital. It keeps them very small. You say that's true.
Oh, yeah, yeah. You taught me that. Raising capital, sales, and public speaking are three of the greatest skills that an entrepreneur or a person in general can develop. And we're all wa. Selling, and we're always to scale. You have to be able to raise capital, whether that's financing capital or equity capital for real estate investment projects or business endeavors or anything like that. So it's a very important skill. It's a very hard skill. If I put out on my social media that I have a client looking to invest a couple million bucks of capital, there's thousands of messages pretty much that just start flooding in. So in every single market, whether upmarket, down market, sideways market, everybody always is looking for capital. And. And it's a skill that's very important.
So we're talking about gold and silver in here and the parlance in the language. They, oh, you're a silver stacker, you're a gold stacker. But really, to be an entrepreneur, you have to be a skilled stacker. So when I was coming out of the. I flew for the Marine Corps, and this is in the 70s, my poor dad says, oh, you're going to fly for the airlines? I said, I don't want to fly for the airlines. He said, go back to school and get your PhD. I said, I don't want to do that. And my rich dad said, I said to my rich dad, I want to be an entrepreneur. And he says, the reason most people don't make it as entrepreneurs or they stay small is they don't have the skill set. So that's why in 1974, my rich dad said to me, if you're going to be an entrepreneur before you get out of the Marine Corps, learn how to sell. So that's why, when I was leaving the Marine Corps, I wanted to get hired by Xerox because Xerox had at that time, one of the best sales training programs in the world. At the same time, I was doing personal development workshops to clear out the inside of me. I was coming out the inside of me. You do the same thing when you clean yourself out, your emotions and so whatever.
Yeah. The inner work, the real hard work.
Is inside of you.
Yeah. Because part of my mission in life is to reach my highest potential and help other people live theirs and not only create generational wealth, but also to create generational freedom. And freedom is A multifaceted concept, and it's a very complex concept that encompasses many different aspects of life. But a lot of freedom is internal, and wealth is a big piece of it. There's financial freedom, but there's internal freedom too. And that's healing generational trauma. That's forgiveness. That's learning how to be connected to you.
And I had the same situation when I was working on me, because a lot of people just work on their skills, but you have to work on yourself. I did the seminar because I was doing seminars just like you were. And it says, if you can't make it with your father, you'll never make it in life. What the hell does that mean? If you still have resentment towards your father or upset or you haven't really communicated to your father, you're not going to make it because you're still all jammed up in here. So this is back in the 70s. I had to make an appointment with my father, poor dad. And tell him all the things I hated about him, why I was pissed off at him. I didn't like the way he treated my mom. And we just came clean. I was sobbing my eyes out because it's all that pain of my father. And that's what set me free. So the point we used to bring all this up is stacking skills and getting successful is outside. But it's also insight to do the same thing for your father.
I did the same thing, and that's what truly set me free when I had that. Come to Jesus with my father. And so many of us, we just want to shove it down, resist it, ignore it, act like we're okay, say that we have no problems or resentment or that we have forgiven anybody that have hurt us in our past. And a lot of us entrepreneurs or real estate investors, we tend to grab onto the success or the accomplishment or the goals to help make us outside of you. Exactly. But when you eventually you realize, okay, now I'm achieving this wealth or this success, but there's still something wrong inside, there's still something off or that buzz inside of me, that tension inside of me. And I had that talk with my father as well. And that's when I became free. And it was a long journey. It wasn't that easy to just do that. There's therapy and meditation, and we go to retreats and stuff where they clear energy out of your body. And it's a whole process. But it is the linchpin of truly being able to live an incredible life and not only reach your highest potential Financially, but spiritually and emotionally and relationally with your family and those that you love. So it's. And a lot of people don't talk about it, especially a lot of men that are in the entrepreneur space. They think it's woo or. But really the strongest men are the ones like you, who actually do the work and focus on the inner work and heal themselves so they can be their best and show up the best and so serve the best.
Kenny McElroy is here and other Blair Singer. Every year, Kenny and I travel two to three times a year to clean out our insights. And that's where the education takes place. It's what's going on inside of you. So Kenny, myself, Blair Singer, we work on ourselves internally, but also we study externally. And like I said, I had to shut down my company because the internal. Not a good leader anyway. But the internal pain inside my company, they're hurting. A lot of people are hurting today. So they try and go back to school to cure the hurt, but the hurt's inside of them. So it's called personal development and that kind of works. That's why I was very impressed with Hannah, that she's always working on herself as well as her business.
Yeah, always.
So any final words for the men and women out there about education seminars and life?
Never stop learning. Never stop growing. Be a student of life and don't ignore the inside and face the things that are really difficult to face. And do the inner work and do that reflection. Even though you're going to feel like there's no ROI on a spreadsheet, it will have the biggest ROI you could ever possibly imagine over anything else that you could possibly do. So just keep learning, surround yourself by people that you love and do the hard work.
The hardest thing for me was to tell my father how much I hated him. One of the hardest things I had to do because I didn't like the way he treated Bob. When I cleared that sucker out, there was more to come, more. But it was a breakthrough because as I just learned this year, our lives are pretty much set by the time we're 15 years old. In other words, how you dealt with your parents or family up to 15, up until the age of 15, your parents and you're learning and you train your kid to interact with the world. But a lot of decisions and judgments you make are in place by 15. And so that's why working inner self is very important. So that's why seminars are not just outside, but seminars for the inside. And I did a thing called Est? E S G. It's called Landmark. And Kenny and Blair, they all send their kids to Landmark also to work on the inside so they can get stronger on the outside. So anyway, congratulate you. You're going to be a first time teaching today. But you've been a student for all these years. And his 2,025 is a year women take flight.
Thank you, Robert.
Thank you. Thank you all for listening.
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