EP 203: Mandy Morris | The Frequency of Love and Its Power to Heal

Welcome to Radical Responsibility, the podcast dedicated to ridding the world of blame and shame, where we explore the issues you care about from a unique perspective. 100% ownership for each and every circumstance we face in life, day in and day out. Hi, welcome to the Radical Responsibility Cop Start over. Hi, welcome to the Radical Responsibility podcast. This is your host, Dr. Fleet Maul. And today I have the pleasure of talking with Mandy Morris, a renowned expert in the real science of manifestation. So before we get into the interview, I just wanted to let you know that you can download a free copy of my neurosomatic mindfulness ebook at heartmind Co NSM podcast. You can also order my book radical responsibility@radicalresponsibilitybook.com and get over $1,000 in free bonuses. So please check that out. Today I'm talking to Mandy Morris, who's a manifestation expert, entrepreneur and author. She's the founder of Authentic Living, an educational organization that empowers nearly 3 million students across 60 countries. Today we'll delve into the frequency of love and its power to heal. Mandy will discuss the transformative energy of love and its role in fostering a sense of oneness and the embodiment of self care as self love. She'll also explore common obstacles to self care, effective mental and emotional self care strategies, and how to manage the triggers that impact our self worth. So give it a listen. We're really going to talk about how to imbue your life with love and energy that creates abundance. Mandy Morris, give it a listen. Welcome Mandy.

Thank you for having me. Hey, Fleet.

Oh, we're really excited to have you on the summit. I've really been looking forward to this conversation. So I'm going to share a bit of your bio with our audience so they understand your background and then we'll jump right into the conversation.

Okay, awesome.

Great. So Mandy Morris is a renowned entrepreneur, manifestation expert, and author of the Hay House book eight Secrets to Powerful Manifesting. She is the founder of Authentic Living, an educational organization that has close to 3 million students in over 60 countries with both online and in person courses designed to help individuals rewire their mind, heart and energy for total abundance in all aspects of life. Mandy's science and love based methods for creating instant and lasting change have been studied, taught and used all over the world by therapists and coaches. Currently, her certified coaches practice globally. Mandy currently lives in Colorado with her husband, two sons, horses, dogs and chickens near Authentic Living Heartland, a sacred retreat center owned by Mandy for souls that come to learn, grow and heal. Sounds like a wonderful place pretty fun.

So I know in your work you, you talk about there's a tremendous emphasis on love and what you call the love frequency. So what is the love frequency and why is it important when it comes to healing?

So I've noticed and this is something that I'd figured out clinically. But this frequency of love, it's not where humanity is going to end, but it is the next step for us in this sense. And it's this incredibly healing energy and coherence that we have the interconnection of all things into what I call oneness. Love frequency is this unconditional space of healing, of love, of self care, of all of the above in the sense of, of how can we get ourselves to a space where we are willing to access our ability to heal. And I've noticed that for some crazy reason, the frequency of love, that non judgmental beautiful space, it opens up incredible things in the subconscious mind.

And one could probably say when we can relax out of the fear and threat systems, that that frequency of love is our basic nature, is the nature of consciousness, mind, of being. Would you agree with that?

I completely, completely agree. And we've forgotten that unfortun. Society doesn't always teach us that, which is why we need to come together in these ways that we can remind ourselves of what we truly are.

Absolutely. Well, your work has been studied by doctors and scientists, and in particular in Scandinavia. And they found that the way you approach healing was extraordinary and worked better than some of the other methodologies. Could you talk about that a little bit?

Yeah, I kind of stumbled across it. I had some friends in Scandinavia, so we're like, let's just do some informal research. And one of my friends owns a bunch of different clinics over there, there. And so my husband and I flew over there, lived there for a couple months. And when anyone. Basically patients who came in with psychosomatic illnesses. So anything that was manifested from their mind, and it could be anything, heart disease.

Allersodes, Tourette's, you name it, all kinds of things could psychosomatically manifest. I noticed that when I would go in there because it was a completely intuitive process that I was following. It was just at the most basic version, communicative therapy I guess I could call it. But I noticed that there was an energy that was coming off of me and this psychiatric nurse that shadowed me, she's like, what is it? What is that feeling? Why are you so quickly getting to the root of these people's issues? And they're walking away and months later they're still, you know, healed, if you will, or they're okay. And mind you, we had them hooked up to technologies at the same time in conjunction with what I was doing. So we were getting real time feedback as well. But I noticed I was like this energy that's coming off of me. If I had to call it something, it's love. So of course I had, you know, a therapy model that I was creating unknowingly to me that I now teach therapists and psychiatrists and coaches all around the world, but it was just naturally happening. And this frequency of love, this energy that was coming out of me, it was, it was doing incredible things. And so it kind of got some excitement and some attention and folks started coming around like, how are you doing this? How are you knowing what the machine is saying right when the machine's saying it? And I was like, we all can access this incredible gift in us. It's called intuition in some ways. But that love frequency piece was kind of the extra magic. So we were just able to help people get back on their feet much more quickly when we were combining the technology. And then my, my model of, you know, therapy, if you will.

So you were able to create a resonance with these people you were working with that who were, you know, maybe the research was being done with certain kinds of biofeedback machines or neuro fight feedback machines. And that was recognizing that you were tapping into what people might use those machines to help people tap into. And so I'm curious about the role of both the body and then the kind of relational field with this. Because, you know, you're referencing terms like coherence and resonance and flow. And so it seems like we can tap into that naturally in our body. When we get below the fear and threat systems into the body and then, and then the relational field, we're able to create that kind of resonance with other, other human beings or nature or what have you. But that. It's that healing frequency, that love frequency you're talking about.

Yeah, it really is. And it sounds, it's so funny because at first, and I love. Prove it to me, I'm a little bit left brain. I like the logic. But when you see what the frequency of love can do, when you see how, you know, similar to when monks, they, when they work on someone, it's already done. When you see someone as already whole and you see them as what I call the authentic self, but like their soul self or their, you know, non traumatized version of them, and you treat them as Such you reminding them you're literally kind of like a biofeedback machine. You're sending that frequency into their field and they're in resonance with it. They do remember it. Some part of them at least still has that makeup. And when they can feel that resonance, man, magic happens.

Yeah, I think that's so important. Any, any modality of healing that doesn't pathologize people, doesn't see people as broken, but recognizes people's innate capacity for self healing, their innate basic goodness, their auth, their innate authenticity and so forth is so much more empowering. Ultimately gives, gives people, leaves people with that empowered self healing capacity.

Yeah. I mean, gosh, back, back in my, my, my past, my history, I used to think I was broken and I thought that I could never be sitting here in front of people, serving people and loving on people and seeing how whole they are because I didn't perceive that I was whole. So ultimately I did it for myself first and then realized this is the most incredible feeling in the world. I want to give it to everyone else.

Well, Mandy, today this seminar altogether focuses on self care. And in some ways we're really trying to because sometimes societally we associate self care with maybe selfishness or self indulgence or even narcissism or people may think of it as that spa lifestyle or something where we're really trying to communicate that it's just about living smart. We all know that if there's anything that we use in our life, we don't take care of it, it's going to break down sooner or later. And so most importantly, if we don't take care of ourselves and keep ourselves strong and resilient and enhance our well being, then we're not going to be weatherproof to deal with the challenges ahead. So we're really looking at it as just living and working smart. And today we're focused in particular on mental self care and emotional self care. And mental health care could be like everything we do to keep the brain thriving and healthy and growing and becoming more integrated, more differentiated, more integrated over the lifespan. And then emotional self care has a lot to do with the way we can access our emotions, honor our emotions, deepen our emotional intelligence, have way to process our emotions safely with others and so forth. So what comes up for you when you think of self care? What does self care mean to you? And then we can start exploring kind of how you would see both mental and emotional self care.

Yeah. So first of all, thank you so much for doing this summit because this Is so unbelievably needed in the world right now. People need to be taking care of themselves because cannot pull or pour from an empty cup. So I feel like self care isn't me first. It's me too. And when we realized that. Right. We realized the connection that we all have. If I want to truly teach my children or teach the world how to love themselves, because we always. We're so good at loving other people, well, we have to give them what I call the gift of embodiment, Showing them what that looks like, to authentically put ourselves also first in the sense of we're all in this, you know, together. And so I feel like self care is the doingness or the action of self love.

Wonderful, wonderful. I love that. That it's not me first. It's me too. Right. I love it. Our colleague Dan Siegel talks about. We often talk about that shift of making the shift from me to we, moving into collective consciousness and even ecological consciousness, as opposed to very egocentric consciousness. But we can't forget ourselves. So he says, well, you need to integrate the me and the we. And he calls it me. I'm not sure if that's ever going to catch on, But I like the ide we. Right. The two together.

So I love it.

Yeah. So.

What are some of the obstacles, you think that. That keep us from practicing healthy self care?

The biggest one that I see, and I struggled with it myself, was rules. I believed that I had to be a certain version of myself where there was some, like, hoops I had to jump through to be worthy of loving myself and therefore acting it out in some way and practicing self care. And so it was this idea, and really my rules ensured that I would never take care of myself, because the types of hoops I had to jump through were perfectionism, where, you know, I would sit in shame and guilt of anything that I'd ever done in the past, or parental guilt of how could I possibly put myself first this morning? You know, putting myself first. That's what we call it, right. But really going, I have to be able to serve from a full cup. And I've noticed that the rules that we all have around whom we have to be. Or like you said, it's selfish to take care of myself, or it would be something as simple as taking, like, a salt bath or something. It's selfish to do this act of self care. And that's so incorrect in so many ways. So the rules that we live by, we have to break them in many areas of our life. But especially with self care. And when we're willing to really turn that love that most likely we give outwardly better, then we can turn inwardly.

Yeah. Especially today when there's, I mean, there's always been suffering in the world, but it seems like we're more aware of it than ever before. And there is so much suffering out in the world. Continual cycles of wars and refugee crises all around the world. And everything that's been going on in Afghanistan and Syria and Iraq and other countries around the world, Yemen and Africa, now this war in Ukraine and all the disruptions coming from climate change that are already impacted, severely impacting people in some of the more marginalized communities in the world. The world. And so sometimes, and I've been on a lot of calls recently supporting people around the, in Europe, colleagues in our communities in Ukraine, Czech Republic and Poland around what's going on there. And I've heard people say again and again, and I hear it also from people here in, in, you know, in living in the relative security of the west and North America, you know, saying things like, well, I, I don't see how I can do things for my, myself when, when these people are suffering so badly. I don't see how I can, you know, have joy in my life when these people are suffering so badly. But, you know, and that's a reasonable conundrum to feel and it's reasonable to feel that. But I think we have to come back that we can't give from an empty cup, as you're saying. Right. So if we're going to show up and just to keep our hearts open to the suffering of the world, we also have to take care of ourselves. We can't do that with an empty heart. Right.

Truly so. And you bring up such an incredible talking point for people because if we are going to agree that we are moving oneness or it's muy, as you said, or as Dan said, I love that so much because if I want to go and make an impact in the world, and I remember this happening a few years back when finally human trafficking and child trafficking was really getting some, some conversation. And I was debilitated because it's a huge trigger of mine. And I remember calling one of my friends and I was like, I am, I feel so worthless. I need to get in the tunnels. Like, what do I do? How do I help? And before I was always helping the individuals who were going in the tunnels and, you know, working through their trauma after and so forth. And my friend said, mandy, this is going to Be really hard for you to hear, but I know you can. It's not your puzzle piece. You are here to hold the frequency of light for those that are doing those pieces. And if everybody on the planet was doing exactly what they are meant to do, we would not have the famine, we would not have the issues that we have. And so I've noticed that again, self care or taking care of ourselves or choosing happiness. Sometimes we think that we can pay for someone else's suffering through a different currency of our own unhappiness. But instead we're staying in that vibration. We're ensuring that we feed our consciousness into the fallacy that we can't be happy because one person may not. Instead, through the gift of embodiment, we show them what that looks like. Or we elevate ourselves in such a way that we finally put ourselves in a place to be able to go in and help the people who cannot help themselves. That is our job. So it is almost like it is our duty to ensure that we are in a more elevated space. If I sat in my trauma and I have plenty of it, and I did for years, I couldn't help people sitting on the other side of that. Once I realized that I needed to pour self care and self love into myself. And as I did that, I granted myself the ability to realize that I was worthy of helping other people. And the people who have not committed suicide because of my work, the people who have gone on to help other people because of my work would have never happened if I didn't fill up my cup.

So important. Thank you for sharing that so vulnerability and transparently in terms of your own journey with this. I had a conversation for this summit with a globally known leadership trainer, Richard Boyatsis. And we were talking about all the suffering in the workplace and how.

The current state of affairs in the professional world and workplaces is not great. A huge percentage of employees are disengaged and dissatisfied. We had the great resignation last year. People so dissatisfied with their jobs. Despite all the amazing leadership trainings in the world, leadership is still mediocre at best in so many ways. So we're talking about this kind of terrible landscape of suffering. And he was completely clear that the answer to transforming organizational spaces, companies, corporations, small businesses, the workplace that people work in every day, begins with self care. It has to begin with self care. We all have to, whether it's employees, workers, leaders, you know, managers, supervisors, line staff, whatever it is, and whatever profession, whatever workplace. He said the beginning point of the transformation that we need, it has to begin with self care. And I thought that was so, so revelatory.

Yes. Because again, when you are practicing self care, when you're in a higher state, you can call it a mental state, you can call it a vibration, a frequency, whatever the terminology doesn't matter. When you're in those states, it's almost like you can bend time, you're more efficient, you can get things done in a completely different way. You are clear minded, so you're not operating in fight or flight, so your brain can produce better results. So it's a win win for everyone, leadership, anyone who is not working for themselves and everything in between. It's truly a solution. And I love that the world is moving towards it. I know that it's a little bit of brain moving around a little bit and some bones breaking in the process, but we're moving towards a really, really beautiful reality if we could kind of step back and see it as such. And self care fits right smack dab in the middle.

So what might be some effective strategies for the mental part of self care? You're keeping our brain healthy. Right? And you know, in your work, what are some of the strategies that you see people able to do that help them with their mental self care?

The biggest one I have seen, and this is something I am so hot to trot on, is trigger management, regardless of how anybody goes about it. So we notice that of course all energy is oscillating, but our mind tends to fluctuate quite a bit. And usually when our mind fluctuates into a painful memory, thought, trauma, whatever it is, we tend to dip even further. So we ride that roller coaster down to our basement and we don't even believe that we're worthy of self care at that point, or we're so lost in it because we're not in the eye of the tornado, but we're spinning around in it that we don't know what to do to get ourselves out. And so when we can manage the triggers that cause for us to forget that self care is the answer, then instead we can pattern interrupt it. And that pattern interrupt is literally an act of self care. Self care is what allows for us to stay in a higher, clearer mental state. And I always call it, you know, a higher vibration, a frequency in which all the things that we want in life actually naturally exist, the solutions that we want exist. And so being able to manage our triggers, the things that throw us off throughout the day, the mental chatter that inevitably pops up for all of us when we can start shifting that conversation. We start changing our brain neurologically to where our default system is no longer to dive all the way down or to forget about ourselves, or not take care of ourselves. Instead over time we reprogram it because we're managing our triggers through an act of self care. That whenever anything in life happens, whether it's globally speaking or it's in our personal world, instead of us flipping us upside our head, we're like, okay, roll up the sleeves, time to get some work in. And we're going to evolve right now. We're going to lean further into. And this is not actually going to sabotage me, this is expanding me into further love and into further evolution. And when we can see it as such and the brain starts getting on board and as I said, those neurological pathways start refiring and rewiring. Oh, absolute magic. And then it's the natural default system and there we have a more beautiful world.

So this is really important because the more time we spend, you know, triggered and in that fight or flight response, it really undermines our sense of self worth, our self efficacy, our competency and we just don't feel much in control of our lives. Right. And so what are some of the strategies you see working for people or you teach people to manage those emotional triggers or to de escalate when they are too upregulated and triggered or how to work with that?

So I guess we can kind of walk through a few pieces. So I call it energetic check ins and I tell my clients to do this morning, noon and night if you can do it every hour. But you might go a little crazy at first, but you'll want to do a little alarm on your phone or something where you can check in and you're just going to ask yourself, okay, mentally speaking, what thoughts are going through me right now and what am I telling myself about those things? Because we stop asking why at a certain age and it sabotages us. We don't know why we feel the way we feel, we don't know why we think the way we think. But when we remember or we find out and discover the root of why, our minds have the chatter that it does, which then produces eventually an emotion which then produces a whole new neurological pathway over time because we're so flooded with the neuro hormones that it produces, it can cause sabotage. But if we're doing check ins, we're saying, okay, where am I at right now? Now the biggest piece to this, and it's actually an act of self care, is no judgment. Let's get curious. Don't get emotional. This is just feedback right now. I love to look at it kind of like a science experiment. I'm like, oh, how curious, how odd that I feel so angry right now. Or whatever. I'm checking in with and I'm seeing, I'm telling myself that I'm not worthy today or I haven't gotten enough done yesterday, whatever. All that chatter is just feedback. When we start seeing it as feedback, as you said, we stop placing so much meaning on it and causing ourselves to spiral and instead we stay almost like a bird's eye view above it. So that energetic check in piece is the first part and ultimately in a form that's trigger management. But the second piece is, as I said, pattern interrupts. A pattern interrupt. You want three types, you want a physical pattern interrupt that could be, oh my gosh, I'm realizing I'm not taking care of myself mentally right now. I'm going to do 10 jump squats. And my intention, intentional energy being most important here, my intention is to clear this out a little bit. This is not true. I'm not telling myself the right thing. The next would be a mental pattern interrupt because some of us might be sitting at a desk and we can't jump and do squats and our boss be like, what are you? You're crazy. What's going on? So you might have maybe a cartoon you play in your head where you're not taking everything so seriously. All of a sudden everyone's dressed like Disney princesses and you're like, ah, okay. The idea is not to disassociate from the feeling or the thought, but instead to just desensitize it a little bit. And then the last one is a spiritual one. Pray, talk to your higher power. Take a couple deep breaths if you can. Do a meditation. But ultimately what we're trying to do is in those moments where we would dip, we would take self love away from ourselves, where we wouldn't care for ourselves and instead we jump into what I call a Persona, but just a part of ourselves that's unhealed. Instead we interrupt that flow of energy and we literally start interrupting the electricity in our brain that is causing that sabotage that is causing for us to not see life clearly. So doing an interrupt whenever we realize that we're feeling off when we do those check ins, it's so simplistic, but it's so magical over time.

Well, I love what you're talking about with the panda that interrupts because these are patterns, right? These Are patterns that undermine our well being, undermine our, our self worth and so forth. They're just patterns that develop through our childhood experiences. We inherit them. That's a human condition. Nobody escapes childhood without having some of this stuff. And so they are patterns. And you first talked about having the self awareness to do the check ins, right. And notice what is going on with my self talk and where I'm at, what's going on. And you said that at a certain age we kind of stopped questioning that. Right. And I think not only do we stop questioning where these patterns come from or why am I thinking and feeling this way, but we tend to identify with them. We start to think that's who I am, right. That's just the way I am. It's never going to be any different. So it's so important to have the awareness and realize these are just patterns and we can interrupt them and shift into a different state. That's so empowering. I think even the first time any of us have the experience to consciously just shift our own state is so empowering.

Yes. Then you realize that you are literally a co creator and when you can remember that the world is your oyster.

That's fabulous. That's fabulous. How about emotional self care? I mean in some ways, you know, mental and emotional, you can't completely divide them. But we are emotional beings and we're going to experience the full gamut of human emotions. All the love and compassion and joy and gladness and contentment and peace. And we're going to experience sadness and frustration, anger and frustration and even envy and jealousy, hatred. These are all normal human emotions. So how do we work with our emotional life to keep ourselves kind of emotionally healthy and not let dominant negative patterns begin to really bring us down emotionally.

So I think the biggest thing is let's normalize all emotions, right? I know for myself I used to run from every negative emotion thinking that if I could shut those off then I'll just experience the good ones. And unfortunately it shuts off everything. And then you don't know who you are and you don't know how to even process or establish and identify any emotion. And so for myself I've noticed I have this saying, life isn't so scary when you stop running away from it. And so I've become so curious whenever I have what I would perceive to be a lower frequency emotion, right. Even scientifically speaking, something that is vibrating a little bit lower, I'm like why? Again, I'm curious like a child. Why? Why? Why? I want to know because instead of me thinking, which we're normally wired to do, this is here to sabotage me. It's going to mess everything up. I'm feeling low. I don't deserve this again, naturally. What's the first thing that every human being, if you really go down to the root, what do we take away from ourselves, our self love and our self care. The moment we feel bad, we place so much meaning and judgment around it. So I always say don't get emotional, get curious. And so some of the things that I do, my two biggest ones is in the mornings when I'm doing my energetic check ins. I'm also asking myself. I'm an avid journaler. I've been journaling since I was 5. It's like how I reverse engineered my whole life. But I journal what do I feel and why? And I'm curious. I want to know. I want to know if a trauma is coming up. I want to know if I'm processing for somebody else. I want to know and when. I'm not afraid of knowing. Again, like we talked about, it's so empowering to say, oh, I'm upset and that is okay. And it's actually here to serve me because it's something that my subconscious is willing to experience, expression. If it's something from the past, it feels safe enough to come up. Now is the time to release it. And it's just, you know, I imagine we're in this frequency soup. We're experiencing everything. And I imagine kind of like the wolf and the three Little pigs where he smells like a little smell. Well, that's like anger just wafting by. You can smell it, but just let it go. Or you can take it in and you can become it and you can feel it and bring it into your reality. But we're always experiencing every frequency. Happiness, sadness, anger, all of the emotions. And that's a beautiful thing when we come back into oneness because all things exist under that oneness. So again, if we stop placing the incorrect meaning around it, beautiful things can happen. And ultimately what happens is because we're raising our vibration, we don't experience the more negative emotions, but not because we're running away from them, but more so because we've transmuted them.

I'm so happy you're pointing in the direction and normalizing the full spectrum of our emotional life and really embracing it rather than running away from it. And I have a colleague that for many years did a process involving Marshall Rosenberg's work, nonviolent communication. And she had all These feelings and needs cards. So someone would share, like a conflict they're going through, they're upset, and, you know, so she would start asking about feelings. And before you know it, there's like 20, 30 feelings cards out there. And just one situation, somebody's experiencing 20, 30 different emotions. And then she would shift to servicing. So what are the underlying needs here? You know, what's going on here? Is it your need for connection, your need for love, your need for order, your need for respect, you know, and all these different needs. And you begin to, you know, get curious about your own emotional life. You begin to see that, you know, when we perceive the universal human needs we all have are getting met, we have these positive emotions. When we perceive, you know, that they're not being met in some way, we start to have more challenging emotions. But you see, it's just all information. There is wisdom and all of it. But really interesting. She'd shift and get all the needs cards out there, and people would have 30, 40 needs out there in this one situation. And then she'd have them contemplate it, order it, put the most important ones in the middle, and inevitably the one in the middle, the most important need was always self worth. It always seems to come back to self worth. And that gets. Everything we've been talking about is ways to not have that be continually undermined. Right. Because the more time we spend emotionally triggered and feeling out of control and so forth, it just undermines our self worth.

Yes, because when you get triggered emotionally, you fall into an unhealed part of yourself. Right? One piece. I call it a Persona. But there's that one part. But that part we can't disassociate from. It has a need. The need needs to be met. And it's not a bad need. So we have to stop judging it. But when we ask ourselves, how can I meet this need in a more elevated way, we'll find ourselves finding new behaviors, new acts of self care, and understanding that we are completely worthy of the time and the energy that it takes to sort through those pieces.

I'm curious what you think about this. In my primary spiritual tradition, which is Tibetan Buddhism, in Bajrayan Buddhism, there's a lot of focus on working with emotions and the full spectrum of emotions. And all the energy of all emotions is seen to be wisdom. Like the pure essence of all emotions is wisdom. And when you separate them from the identifications and the narratives and the thought process, even things like, you know, they say of anger, the wisdom is mirror, like Wisdom, because when you feel anger, there's tremendous clarity, right? And if you unhook it from the narrative and so forth and the identifications and being caught and trapped in it, what you're left with is the wisdom. So I wonder if that resonates with you, that we're emotional beings and. And if we really want to access our wisdom, we need to embrace the full spectrum because it's really where our wisdom and intelligence lies, 100%.

Why would we be given every range of emotion if it wasn't here to, in some way, if we so choose, serve us? So I truly see everything as feedback. And that doesn't mean, oh, I'm feeling anger, let me step away from it. But it is, oh, I'm feeling anger, sadness, or, you know, some unpreferred emotion. This is incredible, juicy feedback that will assist me in my life journey of me understanding that I am all things. And there's such a profoundness when you feel that energy of what, you know, I'm saying of that. The oneness, I guess I call it the is where all things exist. It's not good or bad. There's no love. There's fear. There is love and fear. There's everything and there's nothing, everything in between, but it's pure bliss and it's pure potential. And it is, I think, truly, although we only get doses of it sometimes in the human experience, which is kind of fun in and of itself because, hey, it's an experience. But when we leave this, you know, more humanly plain, it doesn't it feel like that's probably an experience that we have where we don't even know what fear is. We don't even know what anger is. It's a very human experience. So let's, let's ring it out like a sponge, get all the juicy lessons and then bring it back into oneness. So, yeah, I completely agree.

Absolutely. It's wonderful. We're back to that love frequency, right? Full circle now. Back to that where things, you know, that there is that place that we can, you know, relax into. Journaling is a great process, as you said, for self awareness. But we can find that our way into that place where we're really recognizing the isness of things and the one taste quality that the essence of life in whatever experience, it's. I guess you could say it's. It's accessible. You can, you can, you can, you can access the essence of life, that joy, that love frequency, the oneness in the midst of any experience, whether it's Joy or anger, the essence is always there. We're actually never separated from it.

Absolutely. This just happened with my husband and I a few months ago. And trigger warning, of course, we had a miscarriage. And any human experience would be, oh, my gosh, that's so painful. I'm so sorry, what was wrong, what happened, and all that stuff. And I went through that, absolutely. I went through my human experience for a moment. And we grieved, but so quickly. And this is because we've managed our triggers, and we choose to see things from a beautiful light. But we had a daughter. It was a girl. We named her Eliana. And I said, eliana is in this incredible frequency and from that space. And actually had a beautiful friend tell me this, too. She said, mandy wouldn't tell everybody this, but I know I can tell you this in a very, very, very high place, very high vibration. This was the most beautiful orchestration of love that Eliana could have ever given you. And Oliver, you know, my husband and I was like, I know that, and I genuinely know that. And there is no pain around this perceived loss. We gained so much. So when you can see life again for not what humanity has sometimes, or society, I should say, has taught us how we should feel about certain emotions, certain situations. And you choose it yourself. You choose the isness. And that higher consciousness, I'd say higher, that different consciousness. Beautiful things are always happening, and we see everything as feedback that brings us back into oneness.

Yeah, it's really interesting, you know, what you're talking about there, because there's a sense of, you know, lack of cultural permission and so forth, because, you know, there is no escaping the pain of life. We're all going to experience a lot of pain, physical pain, emotional pain in life. And it's not about. As we said, we're talking about honoring all that and embracing all of that. But it is possible to find transformation in the midst of everything. And we tend to think when X happens, you have to have emotion, Y, and when Z happens, you have to have emotion that, you know, and. And if I don't, who would I be? You know? So someone could be listening to you saying that, well, you found your way into the beauty of that experience, and you're not. What? That. That's weird. Yeah, that feels like impersonal or something. We're supposed to just stay in our suffering or something. And so it's not that we're trying to escape suffering, and in fact, the way out is always through, I think. But nonetheless, this idea that we have to feel a certain way is a cultural prescription that can be very limiting, I think, and not. Not allow us to really find that essence within the full spectrum of our life experiences.

Yes, because as humans, what we've forgotten sometimes is when something triggering happens or something that we don't like as well as something we do. But we'll stick with what we don't like or perceive. To not like that produces a negative emotion. It's a knee jerk reaction to go to a certain emotion we normally have. Even though someone could choose anger, someone else might choose sadness over the same stimuli. We have a space in between and it's what we tell ourselves and that's what produces the next emotion, that's what produces the next experience. But we forget that there is actually a space in between of what we choose unconsciously, typically to tell ourselves about it.

So this has been incredibly rich. And I'm curious if you could share a bit about your own self care routines, kind of what you do to keep your cup full because you're obviously teaching and giving and sharing and doing healing work. And so I'm sure it's really important for you to take good care of yourself. So what does that look like for you?

Well, this summit in and of itself is supporting me because growth, being able to lean in and understand myself through other people is a huge act of self care. I think that's one of the greatest things that I can do is how can I feed my mind and feed my energy and feed my emotional body with nourishment. Right. So that's my first piece always. And that looks different every day, but trying to find that nourishment and then after that it is really anything I've evolved to this point, I feel like, because before it was very methodical of I'll go on a vacation or I'll take a salt bath and those things are wonderful. But now it is. Instead I poured the intentional energy that whatever I am doing is an act of self care. So if I'm making dinner, I'm pouring love into it. And it's this beautiful like, you know, artwork, if you will, or if I'm taking a walk, I'm super mindful of it. So my intentional energy gets poured into whatever because at this point I kind of have to find it in little pockets, if you will. So it's, you know, those pieces of how can I pour my intentional energy into whatever it is that I'm doing with the intention of this is a form of my self love, my self evolution and ultimately My self care. Because then it's peppered in everywhere instead of just these little blurps, if you will.

That makes a lot of sense. I think as modern human beings, we've gotten so fixated on doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, and we get rewarded for our doing and we've lost track of being right, the ability to just be. So I think initially sometimes we need to set aside big blocks for being right, you know, and then maybe we can get smaller blocks. And some of us today talk about having all these little micro practices that we can do throughout the day where we're dropping into beingness. And then eventually you can get to where your doing is more infused with being, which is what it sounds like you're doing. You're cooking dinner and you're still doing it in such a way that there is that beingness in the midst of the doing. And so your activity is actually nourishing instead of depleting.

Absolutely. It's all about that intentional energy. That's a big piece.

So Manny, how can people find out more about your work? The work that you do online, the in person teaching you do your retreat center down in southwestern Colorado? Where do people start?

My website, MandyMorris. Love. You go there, you'll be able to find your way around.

Great. Well, that makes it pretty clear to people what you're all about, so. Right. Well, this has been wonderful, Mandy. Thank you so much for your contribution to this summit and for helping us really awaken our human need for self care and that it's really just about living smart and working smart and it's so necessary at this time. Life has always been difficult, I'm sure, but it sure seems like it's getting rather especially difficult these days with the pandemic and everything else that's going on in our lives. So I just think it's becoming like really we just have to take care of ourselves. We don't have any choice at this point.

Yeah, it's a non negotiable now. It's not going to work otherwise. So we've got to get ahead of it. And being proactive versus react on self care, which is something that is so important for me, that's needed in the world. We've got to get ahead of it.

Well, thank you so much, Mandy Morris at MandyMorris. Life is that love, Mandy Morris. Love. Right, dot love. Okay, thank you very much. You be well.

Thank you so much.

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