Podcast With Kate Mckibbin

So you talk about sleaze free funnels. What does that mean to you personally? And is there.

A part of your.

Story that kind of shaped that philosophy?

Well, I think that was the other kind of story I had about saying, I help people with funnels because funnels, like, historically, have got a pretty bad reputation. The bro marketing sort of style of funnels where, you know, you land on a page and you've got a 15 minute countdown timer, and then you go here and here. And it's just I feel like, yes, they, they work, really is a reason that people do them. But I don't think you ever want to have any experience that someone's having with you, either as a lead or as a person experience, and have them coming away going, that just didn't feel good. Yes.