APENFT Marketplace: A zero-fee NFT ecosystem for everyone | AMA with David Uhryniak

Hi, everyone. What's up? It's your girl Rachel here. Thanks again for joining us. For another special AMA today, I am joined by David Yurniak. He's the director of blockchain strategy for Tron. Hi, David, how's it going?

Hi, Rachel. It's going well. How are you?

I'm doing well, thanks. Thanks for joining us today. I'm sure the audience is excited to ask you questions about APE nft. That's what we're talking about today.

Sure, yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

Yes. And so, audience, I just want to remind you guys, before we get started with the AMA with Dave, drop us your questions in the chat. Dave is here to answer those questions. So, Dave, before we get started with the questions, can you maybe give us a little bit of an introduction about yourself and your role at Tron and what APE NFT is?

Yeah, glad to. Thank you. So, like we said, my name is Dave Yornak. I'm the director of blockchain strategy at Tron. I joined Tron pretty recently, just this past December, really, and it's been really a whirlwind ever since. We have so much going on, really just getting out into the market. As most of you may know, or many of you might know, the Tron really began in Asia. And since 2018, we've developed a really significant presence through the APAC region. And now we're really trying to take. Take that across the world. And we're really becoming much more active in Europe and much more active in North America. And that's really what I'm here to do, is make us more visible throughout North America and really bring new developers, new projects onto the platform.

Got it.

So, sure.

Oh, yeah. And so, Dave, I was going to ask you, what is APE nft? If you could go into some detail there.

Sure, yeah. APE NFT is originally started out as the Gallery of. Of Tron. It was the first effort of Tron to really have to bring traditional artists onto the platform and bring them onto Blockchain, as well as bring new digital native artists, give them a place to show their work. So now that's evolved into the APE NFT Marketplace, which enables buyers and sellers to connect between, you know, of a variety of collections. And right now the NFTs are primarily focused on art and some collectibles. But eventually this is expanding to include not only art, but it will include music and include items that are created in gamefi and really be a broad and encompassing marketplace for a variety of NFTs.

Right. And I mean, it's interesting. So Ape NFT is the first NFT marketplace launched on Tron, which, you know, that's, that's unique. And Dave, when was it launched again?

It was just launched, launched earlier this month in April.

Right. So that was fairly recently. Now with it being Tron's first NFT marketplace, can we talk a little bit about the technology behind that and what it enables? So it's built on Tron, it also leverages the BitTorrent file system. So what does that technology bring to Ape nft?

Yeah, well, I think when you talk about the technology, it's really pretty interesting because you're right, it is built on Tron and does leverage BitTorrent as well. And it leverages BitTorrent in a couple different ways. So first being built on Tron, as you know, Tron is already extremely low cost for anyone to develop on and it's extremely scalable with great speed and it's very decentralized. Right. Particularly now that Tron has become a dao. So there's those benefits. And then in using the BitTorrent file system, it's really able to create a significant level of safety for storing NFTs. So as you buy something, you can store it on within the BitTorrent file system and it becomes, you know, very secure. BitTorrent has been around quite some time, really a long history of sharing files, storing files online. So we're extremely confident in that. And then really another thing that's really unique about it, and I think this is really what's going to, or at least one of the things that I think is really going to drive activity from the creator side is that a person could come on there, create their project on the BitTorrent chain, and then have that be available on both Tron and Ethereum at the same time without creating new coins. Right. So they wouldn't have to redo that to create an ERC20 or TRC20 protocol. It's really. Or even 721 or 1155 or any of them. It's really provides access and really to some extent some optionality to the creators because they're on multiple networks. Right. As soon as they launch.

Right, Right.

Really, I don't know of any other marketplace where that's possible.

Right. I mean, I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, this may be the first NFT marketplace that leverages BitTorrent file system. Right?

Yes, it is.

Right. And that's, I mean that's definitely unique in itself and I think really beneficial I mean, you just mentioned one benefit, but I'm sure there are other benefits as well.

Yeah, I mean security is, I think it's really security, it's that multi access that be provided, you know, it's extremely reliable. So you know, it's, it really offers in terms of security, speed, reliability. I think it's really beginning to differentiate.

Right now in terms of the projects on the Marketplace on APE NFT. What kind of NFTs, you know, you briefed at the beginning the types of projects. But could you maybe go into a little bit more detail there in terms of what NFT projects we're seeing on the marketplace?

Yeah, sure. So right now we see projects in two areas really, in collectibles and in art. And the majority of the projects are in art. One of the most notable collections is called the Metazodiac collection that's on the market. And this collection was created by a group called Metapoly XM. And what it does is show the 12 signs of the Chinese zodiac and it's expired or inspired by the old summer palace bronze heads. And within the Chinese culture, these are very valuable, very highly respected, you know, symbols. So that's, that's one thing, that's one collection that's on there. And that collection is seeing, I think, a great deal of activity. But then another collection that's doing quite well is called Devakins nft. Very interesting pictures that everyone should go check out. And then it's the Bored Ape Yacht Club, Tron and the Masked Ape Yacht Club on Tron are also two collections that are there, you know, still very popular, still seeing a good deal of activity. And then additionally the Tron Bull Club is having a good deal of activity. You know, another thing that we're doing in terms of security is we're validating and verifying everything that comes onto the platform into the marketplace. So, you know, and it doesn't happen immediately, but it goes through a process of being validated as being unique and not being a copy or duplicate or, you know, something that shouldn't necessarily be there. And I think that's another thing that really helps to differentiate the APE NFT marketplace.

Yeah, that's, I mean, yeah, that's interesting and that's a really good point as well, Dave. Now, in terms of the projects, so are we mainly seeing artwork NFTs right now, as you mentioned, or, you know.

And right now, when you go to the site, right now everything is primarily artwork. And you know, I think a large, to some extent that's driven by that's intentional at this point. So we started a, a Sprint in March to really incentivize builders. So this, this was a $2 million fund and it's ongoing. So you know, creators who put artwork, who develop NFTs as artwork to go onto the platform can receive up to $20,000 for their project. Right. And so this, it's called the Grand Developer Sprint. It launched on April 6th and it's going to be ongoing. And there, you know, with that 2 million dollar total prize pool, you know, that's pretty significant. And I think we're going to see a lot of art, at least initially. But then after that I really expect a, you know, I would, I expect to see music, I expect to see sports type NFTs, really a wide variety.

Right? Yeah. And I had no idea about the Grand Developer Sprint. So that's interesting. Basically you're allowing, you know, creators to come onto the platform and you're funding them to allow them to be a part of that.

Yeah, definitely. You know, we know one thing about Tron is that because it is low cost, right. And high speed, it's actually the most accessible, most inclusive blockchain in the world. Right. So think, if you think outside of the US to you know, poorer nations, you know, getting online, get developing on blockchain can be prohibitive because of the costs. Right. But if you keep those costs as low as possible and still provide a high quality service, as Tron does, you, you open it up to more people. And that's, that's really, I think part of what we're trying to do with Tron overall and really with the marketplace, we're definitely moving in that direction. So not only do we fund, well, not all the developers or all the creators, but we fund many of the creators. But there's zero transaction fees. We keep the minimal gas fees or we keep the gas fees very low. You know, and like I said, the initial launches are subsidized, so it really, you know, hopefully I'd like to see the NFTs expand beyond art and really get into music or any emerging artist. You know, I think it makes sense to, you know, a music artist really makes sense to try to get your, your product out there. I'm sorry, sometimes I see the questions coming in and it throws off my train of thought. So if I. Right for, if I suddenly seem disjointed, it's because I read something that I thought was interesting or, or even not and I just got lost.

Right? Yeah, no worries. And yes, audience, please keep your questions Coming our way. Dave is here to answer those. But before we take some questions, Dave, I had another question for you.

Sure.

In terms of the charitable aspect behind this, because right now we're seeing a lot of NFT for good use cases where a lot of the times the proceeds go to charitable organizations. Is that something that is being done on the APE NFT Marketplace as well?

You know, that's a really great point. We don't have anything planned right now, but, you know, that's definitely something. Going forward I could envision being as a possibility. So right now, really what we've done from a charitable sense is to have free exhibitions of art. And these are in person. So these would be, you know, displaying the art, providing art education for no admission, open to everyone, and really making it, the art, accessible to a much wider audience than it might normally have. Right. So we had a variety of these events planned throughout China and unfortunately, because of, you know, because of COVID and the, you know, somewhat severe lockdowns within China, they've all been canceled. But I could, I would think that once everything kind of clears up, we would re. We would move to make those possible again.

Right. Okay. I'm going to take a question from the audience. Nicholas is asking, how do you apply? I assume that's referring to the fund that we were just speaking. Speaking about.

Yes. Go to forum.trondal.org and you'll, you will be able to find the Developer Sprint page. So when you go to Forum, go to the APE NFT category, click on that and then you'll see the Marketplace Developer Sprint. Click on that again and you should be able to figure it out from there. I assume you're pretty bright.

Great. And then you said, dave, the applications are through May.

No, I don't think there's. There's a. They started April 6, but they're ongoing with no, no end date set.

Awesome.

Yeah. So there's a question about Finance Chain. You know, the. I don't have any details on that, but BNB chain is something we're integrated with already in other areas. I would expect it soon to be coming to the marketplace as well. So. Yeah, I would watch out for that.

Yeah, I was just about to ask that question from the audience because you mentioned Multi Chain and I think that that's a really important aspect because there are so many benefits to, to that. So. Yeah, so that's, that's a great question to point out. Let's see here. Mano Haran is asking how the entire ecosystem works without transaction fees.

Yeah, fair question. I think it's a logical question, but it's not. You know, Tron is a very broad, very diverse ecosystem. We have an incredibly significant market share of the stablecoin trading business. We have, we do a variety of things elsewhere as well, across D5, across cross chain and everything. And it's not that it's no fees, it's that the fees are low. Right. So that's why we have such high volumes. When you look at, you know, when you look at the market cap of Tron versus let's say the market cap of Ethereum in terms of stable coins, Tron actually has. Tron's obviously small, far smaller than Ethereum. However, we actually have a much, not much larger, but a fairly significant larger share of the stablecoin business than anything on Ethereum. And that's because of the attributes that we bring in terms of cost and speed and security. And that's really what drives or part of what drives the entire ecosystem. And again, it's about being accessible and inclusive to the, to the broader community. So. And by the way, Tron is a not for profit dao, right? So it's not necessarily our end game is to make as much money as possible. That's not why we're here. It's not necessarily, you know, our mission now that we're a DAO and we're a not for profit. We're really about decentralizing the web and making it inclusive and accessible to as many people around the world as possible. So I hope that answers your question.

Yeah, I, I think that's definitely a great answer, Dave. It's also interesting. So Tron is now a dao and you know, we're seeing a lot of businesses move towards that DAO model. Maybe you could go into a little bit of detail there as to what, you know, what exactly that means and what has changed from, you know, the Tron Network to now the Tron Dao.

Yeah, well, to be honest, I wasn't around in the Tron Network days, so like I said, I just started in January. So I really only know Tron in the dao form. So, you know, and just working with that, I think we're, you know, to be honest, there's a lot of things we're still learning, but a lot of things that were that we have already worked out and that we're, you know, trying to just work with and deal with. So some of the things, you know, there's some operational things within being with being a DAO that are a little Difficult or challenging to work out and that's, you know, just signing a contract. You know, you have to have a legal entity to sign a contract. And you know, because Dow really doesn't sign contracts as of right now because that legal framework is in place. So daos are really fairly far ahead of, you know, regulation and laws. So, you know, you have to kind of play within the structure that's there. And other than that, you know, I really haven't seen much differences. You know, I've worked in a variety of traditional companies my entire career, but I really haven't seen too many significant differences at this point. You know, I think more will emerge as we go forward, but for my day to day work, it's not terribly different than working anywhere else.

Yeah, that's good to know. And I think now we're also seeing NFT communities kind of form their own daos as well. Do you think with APE NFT it's the new marketplace on Tron. Do you think that we're going to start seeing some of these NFT projects have daos associated with them?

Yeah, I think anything is possible in the world of crypto. I would say never say never. So yeah, I think it's entirely possible. If it makes sense, you could see it happening. I mean there's a, there's, you know, not every, just like not every situation is appropriate for blockchain. I'm sure not every situation is appropriate for DAO as well. But if it can be worked out to make sense, then yeah, I would.

Certainly envision that right now in terms of user safety, because the NFT space, we've seen rug pulls, we've seen scams. How is APE NFT ensuring user safety? Maybe there's an education aspect there where the marketplace has content that's educational. You know, what, what is being done to keep users safe on the, the marketplace?

Yeah, definitely that's something that has been a concern even back when it was just the gallery, you know, and those things are prevalent in the NFT community. And I think when, you know, you look at the recent report that was done in the US and the specific regulatory agency escapes me. It might have been the FBI looking at money laundering and how that might occur through NFTs. You know, those things are all concern. And I think with, with the APE NFT gallery, what we're doing is, you know, providing verification that a piece of art is legitimate. It's not a rug pull or some other type of trick to get your money. So that's really, I think one of the things we're doing right now. Additionally, you know, Tron is, and I don't think this gets talked about enough, but Tron is a very secure blockchain. There hasn't been any congestion on it certainly, you know, not through defy summer, not through the winter when other chains were seeing a great deal of congestion. And it really, it's, it hasn't been hacked. So it's, you know, the block Height is about 40 million. We have over 87 million accounts. It's a very secure, it's a very high quality chain. So you know, I think it will continue to, to be high quality and continue to be very secure.

Right, yeah, good to know. I'm going to take another question from the audience. Julian is asking, do you think the Minimum number of 8 NFT tokens required to propose governance votes is so high that only exchanges hold enough? And how do APE NFT holders without millions hold APE and FT accountable?

Yeah, and Julian, when I saw those numbers too, I, I was, I had to write them down because I, I, they're not numbers I'm used to dealing with, they are quite large. So I, I completely understand your question, but it's not, it's, and I think it's, I want to say 5 trillion, I don't know, might as well say 5 gajillion. But what have the, the price right now of the NFT coin is also in a neighborhood where I know there's five zeros after the decimal point before the, the actual numbers. So it's, so while the number is large, the overall cost isn't going to be, and I haven't done the math, so I don't know. But the overall cost shouldn't be too much for someone to really become a holder. And that's mostly for, I think what you're referring to is to be a super representative on the network. So you know, I, I actually plan to work that out later today, but it's not overwhelming and we certainly don't want this to be something that's only for institutions. But yeah, I, I, that that first number is shocking. So I, I completely understand your question.

Right now, Dave, in terms of purchasing the NFTs on a NFT marketplace. So do people purchase that with TRX? The NFTs?

Yeah, most of the, most of the items are priced in trx. So just get a TRON link wallet, you know, load it up and you're ready to go.

Got it. Wonderful. So let's see. APE Net, APE NFT is intriguing because it's also Part of Tron's next Hackathon. Can you explain what that means?

Sure, yeah. The Hackathon is a really exciting event here at Tron. And it's really, when we say Hackathon, it's really a series of three hackathons. The first one was into winter, we have another one launching kind of spring, summer time frame and then the third will be in the fall. And there's four tracks within the hackathon. So defy GameFi, Web3 and of course NFTs. And any NFT project is free to enter or can enter. So. And really what's really great is there was a significant amount of interest in the first one. And going forward the prize money has doubled. So the first prize was $50,000, it's now $100,000. And the top five projects in each category receive prize money. So it's, you know, there's definitely monetary incentives to go do that and to, you know, put your project up for, you know, for review. And then additionally, you know, we're going to help you to get that launched, help you with your milestones. You know, we want this to be successful, we want your projects to be successful just like you do and we're going to help you to do that. So yeah, it's an exciting event and NFTs are a big part of that. And just like I was saying before, NFTs are so there's so many use cases, there's about a dozen industries right now that have applicable NFT use cases. Within each of those there there's a variety of NFT use cases. And I think the NFT space is really going to be one of the most rapid evolving over the next few years of any area they'll be involved. NFTs will be part of game 5D5, a huge part of web3. You know, wherever you see Blockchain, it's conceivable that there will be NFTs. So it's so art is only kind of probably, I would say, I would call it the low hanging fruit of the NFT world. And as it evolves, NFTs are gonna, you know, blossom like a, like a, you know, like a giant firework exploding and just be everywhere.

Yeah, I agree for sure. And so that's why I think it's really interesting with Ape and FT to see how the marketplace evolves. Because right now, you know, this is the beginning. This is the start. It was just launched and we're seeing artwork NFTs. But, but as you said Dave, eventually we'll Start seeing music and film and other types of projects on the marketplace.

Yeah, definitely. And I think, I think that gets back to the web three, you know, having creators own their information and own their creation and being able to benefit from it for the life of the project or for the life of the whatever they create versus, you know, having someone else having more middlemen in charge or in place that are always taking a fee. Right. And that's really what. That's really gets back to decentralizing the web.

Exactly, exactly. And thank you audience for your questions. Keep them coming, they've been great so far. Dave, I'm going to take another question from the audience. Julian is asking what is the difference between ifps and btfs?

Yeah, btfs is the BitTorrent file system, which is specific to Tron and specific to BitTorrent. Whereas IFPS is, I believe it's called for international. I really don't know exactly. It might be called Interplanetary File System. Yeah. But the technical details I really can't go into.

Got it. Now, Dave, we've been chatting a lot about NFTs and the artwork featured on APE NFT Marketplace. Now, I know we had a quick video that we were going to show earlier. I'm just wondering if we can show that clip now because, you know, it'd be interesting to see some of, you know, know what that clip, what that clip shows. So are we able to kind of just glance at that clip real quick?

Welcome to the ape nft marketplace where everyone has easy access to nft trade. We believe nfts are not a luxury for the view. Any NFT can be traded here without limitation. We apply zero transaction fees at the initial stage of the marketplace. As a creator, you can earn extra royalties upon each trade of your work. Isn't it amazing? APE NFT Marketplace has launched the one and only Tron 101 program. The 100 most popular NFT projects will receive funding from our TRON 101 program. So what are you waiting for?

Great.

Wonderful. So. So, Dave, that video, I'm assuming that featured some of the artwork that's on the APE NFT Marketplace, correct?

Yes. Yeah, I believe so. I thought it looked good. And importantly, the 101 program is different from the developer Sprint. So that's a separate pool of money.

Okay. What? Can you explain what that is? Because I wasn't aware of that either program.

I honestly can't give you too many details about it at this point.

Okay, okay. Well, I'm sure. No, no worries. I mean, I'm excited to hear about, you know, how it develops and what's to come. But it seems like, yeah, the marketplace is doing a lot to encourage creators to produce their projects by funding them. Which is, which is a really great incentive because you don't see that a lot of the times on some of the larger marketplaces.

Yeah, I think so. And I think that goes back to, you know, we wanted to be inclusive and you know, many people in the world don't have the funding to do these types of things that, you know, might be considered extra because they're too busy just trying to get food on their table. And when we think of this, this is not just, you know, us or even Asia based, this is global. And that's what we want to really make happen is, you know, provide a global forum for everyone to participate and be that inclusive, accessible blockchain.

Right, definitely. So I'm going to take another question from the audience. Javier is asking, how does Ape NFT compare to Nifty Gateway mintable or Coinbase NFT?

Yeah, well, you know, going back to BitTorrent file system, I think all of those, to my knowledge, are primarily Ethereum based. Whereas, you know, you, you've, when you build on BitTorrent, you can automatically be not only on Ethereum but then also on Tron at the same time. And likely I would expect there's more chains coming. So why, my question would be why would you limit yourself to being on one chain, even if it's Ethereum, which is quite large, when you could open yourself up to a much broader audience by being on multiple chains? Right. So that to me is something that really, you know, if I'm really. You're selling something. Right. And if you're a vendor, you want to, and thinking of artists as vendors, they want to sell their piece of art, you want to have as big of an addressable market as possible. And in doing that, and to do that you have to be on multiple chains. And I really think, you know, we're, part of what we're doing at Tron, part of what we believe is that. It's going to be a multiple chain world. But all those chains need to be connected. Right. And that's, that's what we're trying to work towards is developing that interoperability among the chains. So eventually, you know, you can interact with anyone regardless of what they originally developed them. Right. So. Right. You wouldn't, I don't know what your personal email account is, but you wouldn't want to be able to email only people that use the same email as you. Right. You want to email anyone. Very same concept applies with blockchain.

Right. You make a really good point, Dave, in terms of, you know, just things that we need to see moving forward in the NFT space as a whole. Interoperability is one of those things. Is there anything else that comes to mind as well that we need to kind of solve in order for the NFT space to continue to gain mainstream adoption?

Yeah, I, I think there is and it's, I would say there's so many different aspects of NFTs, but because they can be resold and the creator gets compensated every time it is resold, I think steps need to be taken and I don't know what they would be, but to ensure that it's not related parties trading the same NFT back and forth or among a small group in order to drive the price higher, waiting for, you know, that kind of the buyer outside of their group to come in and, and purchase it. Right. I think that is an issue that, that does need to be addressed and I think, you know, I, I don't know the answer to that. Not right now, but it's something that I think as a community we need to be aware of and we need to take steps to. Because if we, if the community doesn't do that, I would expect there to be, you know, potentially severe regulation coming in to potentially solve it.

Right. Yeah. It will be interesting to see how the NFT space unfolds, especially in terms of regulations now.

Dang.

Yeah. I'm just curious to know what's in store next for APE nft. What can we expect to see? You know, you obviously mentioned different types of NFT projects on the marketplace, but in terms of, you know, other developments, what can we expect to see moving forward from APE nft?

Yeah, I would say the biggest thing you're going to see coming from the marketplace at this point will be growth. I think there'll be rapid growth across the categories of NFTs, at least the categories right now. Right. So I think it's going, GameFi is going to play a huge role in NFTs and I think that eventually within a couple years, it's possible that will be the most active category within the marketplace because the, you know, there's going to be so much going on, I believe, within GameFi and NFTs, that they'll, they need to be, they need to have a market to trade on. Secondly, I think, you know, just overall in the NFT world, I think you're going to see transaction costs really trend toward where Trons are. And you know, the differentiator is going to be. Differentiators among marketplaces really are going to be security, storage, speed, cost, even though those cost becomes more common. And then I think eventually, you know, as those all work out because Tron is so far ahead. Tron wanted being a leader in NFT trading and exchanges in my view.

Yeah. And in the intron has been around for a very, very long time. Yeah.

In the blockchain world perhaps, but really it went live in 2018 which, so I mean it's a little over three years old, which is, you know, in the terms of a company, it's not that old. The growth has been amazing during that time. But yeah, it's really not that old of a company.

Right, right. But it's not as new as some of the other companies that we're seeing now that are just, you know, popping because of the NFT boom. So it's an established network now. You know, we're getting questions coming in from the audience, which is great. We have a few more minutes, so I'm going to take those actually. This one's a really great question, Dave. So an audience member is asking, will NFTs minted on TRON, will those be so able to be sold on OpenC and other NFT marketplaces?

You know, that's a really good question. I would have to say yes because that's the whole purpose of being multi chain. Right. So if you could, and if that's wrong, no one be mad at me. But you know, I, I think so. If you minted on Tron and then you could potentially list it on OpenSea, as I think about that, I don't know if it's possible because it wouldn't be able to be. I don't believe you could have the same thing listed in two places. Just the way NFTs work. Right. So but if it, if you mint it on Tron it and don't list it on the marketplace, could you move it to an OpenSea? I think that might be possible, yeah. Honestly, I, I don't know the, the exact answer to that.

Yeah, it's a good question. And I mean I think I, I think the audience is really curious just about that functionality. I mean Javier is asking with Ape nft, can that be, can you, can you use one of those NFTs to sell to a different ETH wallet? So I think there, I think, you know, if you want to answer that question as well. But it seems like there's kind of, you know, a lot of questions about this topic.

Yeah, I think all those things are possible because that's the, I mean, that's the whole point of being multi chain is that you have access to this variety of, you know, your, your wallets and other exchanges. So. So it's certainly possible.

Right.

And I don't answer all the questions. I don't know the answers to all the questions. I'm sorry, I'll answer the ones I do know.

Yeah. And I mean, definitely. And it seems like, you know, there's still a lot of development. I mean, the network, APE NFT was launched just this month, right, Dave?

Yes. April. Yes.

So it seems like there's still a lot of development, but, you know, it's exciting because the audience does want to know more about the network, which, you know, I'm sure as those details come and you can reveal and answer these questions, we'll know more. But I think just part of this is that it's such a new development, a new marketplace.

Yeah. And it's launched and, you know, at least to me, I'm still learning not only about Tron, but about everything that's going on with the marketplace, so.

Right.

You know, I'm sure there'll be a lot to changes over the next few months, but I think we're definitely on our way.

Definitely. Wonderful. Well, Dave, it's been a real pleasure. I know we're basically out of time, so I just want to say thank you again for joining us today for the ama. It's been wonderful. I also want to say thank you to the audience for being so interactive and for sending us so many questions. And I also want to remind everybody to please subscribe to Cointelegraph's YouTube channel. We do AMAs like this quite frequently. Dave, before we sign off, I'm sure the audience would love to know how to get in touch with you or if they had more questions about APE nft. So can you kind of tell them how to do that if they wanted to?

Of course, yeah. You can find me on LinkedIn pretty easily or just email me@daveiron.network work. I'm always willing and I'm glad to engage with everyone in the community. So, you know, just give me a shout. My email address is pretty simple and that's Dave D A V E n dot net work.

Right. Wonderful. And then, Dave, in terms of APE NFT Marketplace, if people wanted to learn more, are there any resources besides the website that they should go to?

I would go to forum.trial.org and there's a lot of information about the NFT site there, including the developer, Sprint.

Wonderful.

As well as the Hackathon.

Great. Wonderful. Well, thanks again, Dave. Thanks to the audience. You guys have been great. And we'll see you next time.

All right. Thank you, Rachel. Thanks for having me.

Thank you. Goodbye. Bye.