Stop Living in Survival Mode | The Inner Work Entrepreneurs Avoid

What is going on, everybody? Welcome back. Saturday morning, back at it again. Excited to be doing this live. Got a very special guest, good friend Gordon Thornton, I'm going to bring on in a second here. And we're just going to talk about work, what I'm always talking about. I'm going to talk about, you know, how to stop living in a survival state all the time and how to actually enjoy your life. You want to be an entrepreneur and actually not, you know, grind yourself into a pulp, 'cause there's literally nothing noble about that. There is nothing noble about it. Real quick, so the Built For Impact Community is coming out soon here. I'm just getting some of the modules done and recorded. I've been working on this for a long time. And just talking about it real quick, who it's for. So it is for entrepreneurs and operators and high performers who, are done being stressed out and burnt out and operating in fear, right? And you're like— and you've had success externally, right? You've done things in the external world and you've had success. Be like, there has to be a different way that I can operate from a more grounded state. So if you're looking for like a strategy where you think something externally is going to do it, some new strategy or tactic or plan, then the community is not for you, right? But if you've done all that and you've had the success and you reach the mountaintop and you're still like, I'm not feeling okay on the inside, I want a new way to operate, that's who it's for. So you can comment on this or DM me the word built and I'll put you on the list when that comes out and we can get it going. Gordon has his own community, which I'll talk about as well. So we kind of talk about the same stuff, but overall excited to have him on. Without further ado.

There he is. Look at that. Look at that. What's up, brother? Good morning, dude. How you doing?

Good, doing good. What's up in South Carolina these days?

Oh, you know, you know, just living in the Bible Belt, doing my thing around here, right? Um, you know, just actually, dude, I have, um, it was fine just listening to your intro, but it's like, you know, that high performer thing, always going scarcity mindset, right? Um, living in that fear. And this past like 2 and a half weeks was the first time in I don't know how long that I actually just like unplugged from everything and was like, I'm out. I'm like, I am not doing it. Um, and it was— I'll tell you, it's— it was hard. I'm not going to tell you it was easy being someone that is like programmed to go and do all the time and then trying to shut it down. I was pacing around my house not knowing what to do with myself. Like, literally, I was like, what am I gonna do, right? Um, because our brain is just continually like wanting to be doing things and producing and all this stuff. Um, and it was just— it was crazy. So it took me a good like week, a couple, maybe 10 days to like literally like and exhale and breathe.

Crazy. That just goes to show how much we're programmed. I was thinking this exact same thing the other day. I've really been diving into like the subconscious mind and really understanding what it is, you know, because there's two different— some people talk about the subconscious mind kind of like the universal mind and how to give you ideas, but the other part of the subconscious mind is like our conditioned set of emotional behaviors and patterns and identities. And it's like what's running beneath the surface, as you know, obviously. Um, but I was thinking the same thing, like my— I got to say this yesterday— that my subconscious programming is to force and push still a little bit. Because what do I want to do? Like, when I sit down to work at 7 AM in the morning, I will push myself unconsciously to like 2 or 3 without even getting up. And it's like I need to push myself to that brink. Because that's what I programmed my body to do, especially when I was starting the business, right? That's— I felt like I had to just give it everything I had. So every single day my body is like just addicted to doing that. It's like being conscious of that.

Yeah, yeah, it's a crazy feeling that you get. I was listening to your, um, you know, the podcast, uh, link that you sent me over this morning, right? Uh, or you sent over a couple, a couple, maybe a week ago, whatever. I listened to it this morning though, getting ready, um, just so I could brush up on, you know, what you're building and all that stuff, man. And first off, I love your framework. I think it's fantastic. I love what you're doing with trying to help other entrepreneurs that, you know, it's interesting what we do as entrepreneurs. Like, we have like this spot where we just wanna break free. Like, we wanna break free, right? That's what we want in our life, right? So there's really two things that we really want. I mean, I think there's really only one thing we really want, which is love. And not like the Hallmark love, right? Like, not like this, like, oh, I need to have a partner that justifies me and, you know, gives me—

Not romantic love, like, Horse Miracles love. Right?

But like the love of— first of ourselves, right? The love of that we— that we can create with— we can co-create our life with things that are much bigger and greater than us, right? And just feeling of love and acceptance, right? And that's really what everyone's going after. Um, but most people always are saying, well, I'll go get that for— I'll go get that later. What I really need to do is, you know, create some freedom in everybody's mind. And freedom is built off of abundance of money, right? Money's gonna solve everything, right? Okay, so the thing is this: money is not going to solve anything. It's actually going to cause more problems unless you do the inner work on yourself while you're trying to make that money. Now, you're not going to believe me when I tell you this, And that's cool because you're gonna have to go through the process.

You almost have to see it yourself. You can't— you know what I mean? It's almost like— and I saw Chris Williamson, he has a podcast, the Modern Wisdom Podcast. He's really good. It's like it's an unteachable lesson. Yeah, almost unteachable lesson. You have to go experience for yourself that it's not it.

You have to literally just— it's just what it is, right? But the thing is, is that you have to work on yourself and become a new person, right? You have to become like that 2.0 version like you talk about in, in The Built Framework, right? You have to become that to actually even break the old frame of scarcity that you live in, right? Like, this whole life is a freaking journey. There literally is no destination at all, right? And it's like, the game is growth and expansion. The game is recognizing with awareness when you're operating out of scarcity, because again, that never goes away. Right? You got— you can have more zeros in your bank account, but then you actually start being like, I'm gonna lose it all, I'm gonna lose it, if you have bad programming, right?

Yeah.

And so you don't know what to do, and so then you start grinding and hustling faster and further, and then you burn yourself out and you burn your whole thing down. It's the build and burn model, the build and burn model, the build and burn model, right?

It is not a fun roller coaster.

I've lived it too many times, I'm telling you. I'm sick of it, right? And so that's why I was like, okay, you know, this is the madness, right? So it's like, yeah, it's like, am I operating in scarcity? Am I operating out of abundance? Or am I operating out of prosperity? Which is really where we all need to be operating off of, is that third pillar of prosperity. But you can't just jump from scarcity to prosperity. You literally have— there's no linear path to this, right? Like, it's just like, it's chaos, it's madness, it's all over the place. And that's why it's all about continually working on yourself every single day, toning in, like, just really getting in tone with your tune, with your own awareness of how it is you're showing up and how it is that you're going to, like, activate your life and be the best version that you can be that day.

That's it. Yeah, it is. That thing about the money though is so true. That's what really was the alarm for me because, like, I didn't— I mean, I'm not a millionaire, but, like, having $50 grand, $70 grand, $90 grand in the bank account, and I'm still as, as fearful as I was when I had $2 grand in the bank account. Okay, maybe it's not the money. Is it the money when you're gonna do it, right? Totally. I don't need to be a millionaire to figure out that freaking concept. No, it's like, in my, my thing too is like, I just got to the breaking point too where it's like, you know, and I talk to people about this sometimes, like, well, what if What if I don't figure it out? And I say, well, first of all, okay, 100% undefeated, always figured it out. You're still alive right now, aren't you? But it's just really getting to the point where you're like, I got to the point where I was like, I'd rather just not do this business. I'd rather just burn it all down than have to live in this state of being anymore. So that's when I got to that point. I probably got to that point like 6, 8 months ago, really, where I was just like, I was willing to give it all up just to be in this peaceful state. And guess what? I'm still here. Business is still going.

Well, you guys have done it right too. Like, you've built a business that now you can't run, you know, your business isn't going to run without you yet, right? At least I don't think so. Maybe you can. I don't think it does, right? But you've, you've built it to a point where you can take time off and you can go to bed and you can still know that things are getting done behind the scenes, right? Um, And that's, that's a huge step right there, right? And that's it. That's living in abundance, dude. That's amazing. It's amazing, right? And then it's just now it's like, okay, how do I make the step to prosperity, right? And how do I take that next step? And I mean, that's my goal for this year. Like, that's what I'm trying to figure out too, right? Like, am I truly aligned with what God wants me to build for my life and help other people? Like, that's where I'm at.

It's good to be aligned though, just to like, to do what you know you're meant to do, you know, with no inhibitions, no restrictions. You don't give a damn, like, you don't give a shit honestly, like, how, how unrealistic it is in the moment. Like, I know I'm meant to be doing this, so you're just gonna go get after it. Yeah, I think that's a beautiful thing because you following your— like, you know, not to be coy, but like following your dreams, that's what it is. Like, you following your dreams shows other people that, hey, You can do that too. It doesn't matter where you are, doesn't matter if you're in a corporate job or you're in, or you are an entrepreneur, or whatever the case may be, right? You can change. But as long as you keep fighting for your limiting beliefs, guess what? You get to keep them. Congratulations, you get to keep those beliefs. Um, but it's absolutely incredible. Talk about, so what you're talking about here, something to prosperity, scarcity of prosperity, what are you saying?

Scarcity to abundance. And then to prosperity, right? So how I look at this is like prosperity is the spot when you get in your life where you know that you can give it all away and no matter what, it's all going to come back to you because you are literally living at a frequency where you are able to just attract and bring anything that you want in your whole entire life. Yeah, right now That might be woo-woo for a lot of people, right? And that's totally cool. But it's absolutely possible to be able to create any— anything that you want in this world. I truly believe that, right? Like 100%. And it's okay if you get off track along the way, because guess what? You're going to, right? And you're going to fail more times than you're going to win along the way, and that's okay. The thing is, is when are you going to continue to get back up and try again, right? Like, I always tell people, I'm like, if you are not wanting to quit being an entrepreneur at least once a week, then you are not entrepreneuring hard enough. Yeah, I'm sorry, that's just the— that's the game that you've entered into.

It pushes you.

It's, it's— you, you've entered into— you're not into being an entrepreneur to create a business. You are creating a better, bigger, best version of you. Because if you don't, you have no business. It will collapse because you will be stretched and expanded every single day in ways that you will never think are imaginable. Right. And so this is why, like I talk about, you know, you're built for impact, right? I call it the 8% method, right? But it's like, this is why my life is foundationally built off of 8%, 8% of my day, 2 hours spent every single day, every single time in my day, right? Of personal and business development, right? That's physically, spiritually, right, emotionally, relationally, and in my business. For 2 hours a day, it's a non-negotiable. It has to be done because I don't wake up being like, all right, cool, let's go attack the day, let's go get it. Like, I'm not programmed that way. It doesn't do it for me, right? Like, I wake up and I'm like, oh, Again, really? I gotta do this again, right? And then I'm like, all right, I built— I built the habit over time where I know what it takes for me to put myself in a position of personal power every single day. So I'm showing up as that best version that I can be that day. And I'm just trying to— it's a game of me versus me. It's a game of am I gonna listen? So Andy Frisella— I love Andy Frisella— talks about it this way, right? He calls it the bitch voice and the boss voice, right?

Right.

I'm gonna call it the I Am voice and then the ego, right? We have these two things going on inside of us at all times, right?

Or self, whatever you want to say.

Whatever you want to say, right? The light versus the dark, whatever it would be, right? This is the cool thing: they're both good, they're both needed, we both want to have them there. The power is when you're able to recognize which one you are operating in and then being able to blend both of them together so then you can actually be in your own personal power and be completely aligned with your heart and your mind, right? Like, that's what it's about.

That's what it's about, making the unconscious conscious. I think that's huge. That would even challenge too, and being vulnerable obviously here, um, you know, and we're obviously— we talk about this stuff, we're still on our own journeys too. I think that's the biggest thing. Everyone's on their journey until the day you die. I think our biggest goals, or at least for myself, is to just bring this information to light so you guys can start to reflect on it. You can start to start your own journey. I'm not saying I've released myself from all this stuff and I'm this yogi blissful person all the time, but I'm much more aware of it than I was 3 years ago. Right? And that's the work every single day. It's like I talk about, it's like getting on the horse. You just got to get on the horse every day. Guess what? You're going to fall off the horse. What are you going to do? You're going to get back on the horse. And as you ride the horse long, soon you're going to be able to ride the horse long without falling off. And then you end up not falling off that often. But you've got to make the conscious choice every day. I think when people try to do this inner work and they're doing their meditations and they're reverting back, they're getting down on themselves. And that is a negative frequency in and of itself. That's one of the biggest things I dealt with. I would judge myself and I would revert back to the old way of being, right? Like my 1.0 self. That in and of itself, that judgment is what we're trying to get away from. So it's forgiving yourself in that moment and just get back to it. And over time, you are reprogramming yourself. And I would say even like, would you say that part of what you're saying, where you get up and you feel like you have to do it, is part of that still some programming from the past 20 years? Oh, I'm sure.

I've been— so pro— as far as I'm concerned, when it comes to programming, it's not only just programming that I've developed, it's programming that's generationally been passed down to me from other people. Right? Um, and so, and that's the whole thing of the trick of it all, is that you talk about subconscious stuff and energy and all this stuff. Like, there's programming, there's frameworks, there's stories, there's traumas that aren't even yours, that you haven't even experienced in your life, that have energetically been passed down from previous generations to you that you can't do nothing about. Okay. And so it's like, well, you can do something about it, actually. You can actually be the one in your family that decides that, no, it stops with me. Right. And I'm not going to let it get passed on to the next generation right now. I didn't realize this until I had my own child myself. Right. And that's just the process of life, of how things operate. Right. But like, I know that I got things passed down to me from my parents, from their parents, from their parents. Right, that I held on to, that I had, that I had already passed down to my son and still do to this day, before I even was aware of what was happening, right? And so that's where that inner work really comes into play. Like meditation and contemplation, um, that stuff's like— I call that the primer. That's like the primer work, right? That's like the non-negotiable stuff, um, of, of giving you— building up your awareness to what is so much bigger that's going on around us, right? And then after repeating those over and over again, that's like the part that, that will kind of like crack you open a little bit to allow you to experience like these big breakthroughs. And one, all of a sudden one day you're like, whoa, and it rushes in like a freaking fire hose. Yeah, right. Um, and that's the process.

You know what I think it is too? Because I feel like adulthood becomes about just unwinding all the stuff that you were programmed as a kid, right? Because we didn't even know that we were programmed. So adulthood is, for a while, just getting back to baseline. You're trying to get back to neutral so that you can then build the version of yourself that you want. And part of that is recognizing your beliefs and your programs. Hey, what does not mean— what is not necessarily true? I think this is a really important thing to understand. What is your truth, but not necessarily the truth of the world? People think because something they believe is true is just the way that it is in the world. But what if it's not? Sure. You talk about like the 4-minute mile, people couldn't do it, then someone did. All of a sudden, magically everyone can do it, right? They thought the truth of the world is that it was physically impossible to run under 4 minutes. When someone does it, all of a sudden the belief is gone. People are hammering it. But that 0 to 7 though, right? Is, um, our brainwave states are literally in theta, right? Or brainwave states: beta, alpha, theta, delta. You're expecting like a legit computer program, right? So your parents are— if so, if your parents are unconscious and they don't know about this type of work, they're going to act exactly how their parents programmed, and that's how they're going to program you. And if you don't become conscious in this lifetime, you're picking up their patterns, you're doing everything that they taught you and then you're just giving it to your kid and it just keeps going on forever until someone breaks it.

100%.

I wasn't— I was—

I did— I wasn't conscious about it until I turned 42 years old, dude. So like, you're ahead of the game as far as I'm concerned. Way ahead of the game, right? And I think generationally you guys are ahead of the game anyways, right? Like, I think like, I'm obviously like Gen X. You are— are you Z or millennial? Which one are you? You Z?

You're Z, right?

So, um, like you guys, and then like, I, like, I, like, I see my son, I see, um, his friends and how they interact. Like, it's totally different, right? Um, than what we had growing up as well. But like, I didn't recognize it until I was 42 years old. My son was literally 9, 10 years old at that point in time. Yeah. And, um, you know, it took a lot for me and some massive breakthroughs that I had to go through that to really come to this place in my life, right? Um, and that's what's— and that's why when you talk about like everybody has their own journey, we all have our own journey. Like no one's ahead of anyone else, no one's behind anyone else, right? Like it doesn't matter. Just start showing up for yourself and for your family and just watch what happens. Just watch what happens. It's amazing.

Really is. Yeah, that just— the awareness is so huge.

It is, it is. Yeah, I mean, but that's, that's, you know, I mean, I could, I do that, I could talk about these things over and over and over and over again.

I do talk about them over and over and over again every day. Probably sick of me talking about it, as you know, as you know.

No, but that's that. But it's so interesting. So Like, when you first started your journey down, like, being a real estate investor, right? Like, did you ever think you'd end up here?

No. But also, oh, you know what I finally read though? The Second Mountain. Did I tell you about that?

Oh, did you read it?

Yeah. Second Mountain, great freaking book. Um, but I realized that, you know, in that book he talks about everyone climbs their first mountain, which is basically, you know, it's a lot— it's like a self-serving mountain. When I started out the wholesale business, it was for me. I'm just gonna make a bunch of money. And really it's because I was— what I was doing is I was seeking internal validation through external things. So through the business, through the title of being an entrepreneur, through having a million, multi-million dollar business, whatever I thought would get me there, I thought that would give me an internal feeling. But when I, you know, had some level of success and I realized that wasn't the case, and I— it was like almost flating. You know, it's very interesting. I, um, it was probably in September. It was like September of this year when I stopped living in fear. My motivation to do the wholesale business increased significantly. Increased. I was like, I don't even care about this anymore, right? And that just went to show me, I was like, oh my gosh, like the only thing that was driving me was fear. Fear of not being anything, fear of not being worth anything, fear of what people would say to me if I wasn't successful. That fear was running me. And when the fear was gone, guess what? God was like, this is really not, you know, now obviously, um, I kind of reshifted my viewpoint around where I'm more of a leader now and I am aligned in that fashion. But me like being a salesperson, talking to sell, do all that stuff, I was like, this is just not, not it, right? Um, but then my second mountain became about this stuff. I said, the shift. I'm like, this is it. This is the answer. I was like, this is crazy. I need to tell everyone, everyone who's feeling this way. And I think entrepreneurs are some of the greatest people to help out with this because so many of us are like, we should be going into business to help people because we love the mission and we want to serve people. Everyone's going into business to like make a bunch of money. That's just self-seeking and it's empty. When you get to the top, it doesn't give you the feeling inside that you thought would give you. Um, so just learning to build that inner foundation. It's like what Michael Singer says, it's like you're not okay on the inside, you spend your entire life chasing external things to try to make yourself feel okay. You know, guess what? It doesn't work until you choose. They say happiness is a choice, love is a choice, because it is. It's a being. And then when you don't— when you have the feeling, you don't even want the things anymore, and that's when they come.

No, and that's— and that's the whole— that's where you have like that you're in this pit, right? And it's that money thing again. You're in this pit, right? But this is the trick of it too, because like you're in this spot and you want to break free, and then you like, you work, you grind, you hustle, you get there, and then you come to this peak and it feels great at first, right? When you first get those checks coming in, right? You're like, yes, okay, I made it, right? I did it, I did it, right? And then all of a sudden you start making $50,000 checks and there's like nothing.

Yep.

You're like, no, you don't feel anything anymore, which is weird. It's weird because you're like, whoa, hold on a second. And that might sound really strange for people that have never done it, right? But that's why that first mountain is that money chase that you have to experience and you have to go through it. Yeah. And then you get to that peak and you're like, wait, this is it? Is this really it?

This sucks. This is the worst hike of all time.

This is like, I just went through all this, this, like, what happened? And then that new peak that you reached then becomes your new pit, right? And there's a whole nother thing you gotta climb, that second mountain you gotta climb, right? Which is the actual work you're here to do, right? And so it's just like, it's, it's the most beautiful thing. Um, and so what ends up happening though, a lot of people will never even make this climb. So if you're watching this call, or if you're looking at this, if you're doing any of this work, like, let me tell you something, you are already like a 2% person in this life. Because the vast majority of people will not do this, and it would scare the crap out of most people because they would much rather stay in their little frame where they're comfortable with their friends and their family. And yes, they want more for their life, but they're truly not willing to do that inner work that's required to break through and do it. And that's okay. That's okay if you're not too— like, that's just— that's your— that's your life path. Maybe in your next life path you'll do something different.

Okay.

Like, honestly, it's not— it doesn't matter. Like, everybody is in their own evolution, in their own, own world, what they're, what they're doing right now. I say that, like, everybody can do this if they truly want to be the one in their life. Like, Ed Mylett has a great book called, like, Be the One or something like that, right? And he talks about the thermostat in our life of, like, we have this whole thermostat where that's set. And the question is, when you reach the tipping point, are you going to break through and raise your own thermostat to go to that next level, or are you going to turn that thermostat down because it just got too hot?

Yeah, that's so good. The thermostat I was talking about, because I'm recording the modules right now, and I was talking about the thermostat and kind of your subconscious programming. But I think a big part of what sets your thermostat is your identity. Like how you see yourself, your self-image. So say you want to be a world-class speaker, right? If your thermostat is, well, I can only speak online, I'm not ready to speak on stages, you might get opportunities to go speak on stages, but you're going to self-sabotage, right? You're not going to take that because you don't see yourself as the version who could do that. Now you're going to do it sneakily though. You're going to say, oh, well, you know, I got a sales call the weekend, I got some stuff in the business I gotta take care of, I'd love to do it, but I can't do it, right? So you're gonna make yourself feel good about it, but in reality, that's the best thing for you because that's what you want to do. But because your identity, your thermostat is set to 70, this hot opportunity is coming in at 95, but your thermostat's like, nope, we're gonna come back down to 70. We're gonna stay right here where it's comfortable in this, in the familiar. Because the other part of it is, it's the unknown. I think that's part of entrepreneurship too, is like, we need to, to learn how to regulate our state. Like, our nervous system is a huge part of that because as we step into this unknown, our nervous system wants to protect us. Just like physiologically, like back in the day, we'd be getting chased by a lion. It makes sense as we go into the unknown, nervous system's gonna go into fight or flight so we can protect ourselves. Our lives aren't at risk, but as you step into these newer and newer versions of yourself, it's gonna feel uncomfortable, and you have to get used to that feeling of fear, right? And understand that fear is a liar and it's an illusion. If you could use your breath and different things to regulate your nervous system when you step into those new opportunities, That's what's going to allow you to do that. But if you just let that energy come in, it's going to— and you can't regulate it and you don't use your breath, like, it like trips the circuit breaker and you go into fight or flight and sabotage. You can't get into there. So regulating your state is huge. That's kind of the next thing I want to mention is living in this survival state. If you boil it down, like, you boil it down to like the one-liner of like everything I'm talking about, it's like helping entrepreneurs stop living in survival mode. And build a life from peace instead of pressure. So how have you, you know, talk about maybe your experiences like living in more of a survival mode versus now how you're more grounded and calm than you have been in the past, what that's been like?

Yeah, yeah. I mean, so you call it survival, and that's what I would call scarcity, right? And that's what that is, same exact thing. Um, and then I've been able to do it where, like, and I've by no stretch of perfected right? Because I still caught my— this year I caught myself at least 3 times acting in scarcity mode, right? And I was like, oh, okay, hold on a second, right? Um, getting myself involved in things that I shouldn't have gotten involved in, and then being— looking back at it and be like, oh, that was the scarcity move, that was a survival move right there, that wasn't the good one right there, right? And like, so many lessons that came through this year for me. Which I wouldn't have been able to recognize if I didn't take the time off towards the end of this year to really reflect back on, like, what transpired in my life, right? Um, but to stick into this and break through of this— like, I'm a man of— I'm a man of faith, right? You know this about me, right? I believe in— now, I'm not like— I believe in Jesus Christ, right? I'm not— I don't really like organized religion, okay, like at all. I do have a mission to read the Bible every single day this year, right, because I think the Bible is a fantastic book of growth, um, and lessons of what we can do, right, um, and I do believe in this man Jesus Christ that came down and died for our sins, okay, um, and so In saying that, I would have never said that like 3 years ago if you talked to me. No, not a chance in hell. Okay, um, but what I can tell you is that going back and learning the lessons of my life of how God has shown up and always protected me and given me that faith in that— what people will call no fear, people call it your intuition, or we'll call it a voice that you hear um, to me, what I've learned is that that's Jesus, that's the Holy Spirit guiding me, right? And so that's where I can— when I feel myself and the anxiety coming up, I simply have to stop. I start breathing, right? I do box breathing all the time.

I would be—

right? Yeah, absolutely. I pray and I just start trying to quiet my mind. And I literally all the time, I'll start breathing, I'll put my hand right on my heart, and I'll start doing some box breathing. And then I will automatically turn that into breathing in rhythm with my heart and just being present with where I am right here and now, and just trying pull that veil of this mind, this ego away that's trying to continually live in the future. Right? Because our mind is always trying to live in the future. It's always looking out on that horizon, right?

And it only exists in the mind.

Totally does, right? And so, so that's the whole thing. Like, I'll even talk to myself saying that. Like, I'll even— I have like simple mantras where it'll be like, you're safe, there's nothing going on right now at all, you're completely protected, you're completely loved. I'll go into gratitude, start talking about all the wonderful things that I'm grateful for in my life. And just bring in that presence, right? And just remember how fortunate I totally am in this world and in this life, no matter what, right? And so right there, by doing that and becoming present, my scarcity vanishes, my survival mode will vanish, because I'll remember, right? Like you had talked about before, like the journey is almost about— as you become an adult, is remembering who you are. And so it's like, okay, I remember who I am, right? Like, I am a miracle. I am a miracle that's been created out of love. Like, that's who I am. So what the hell am I worried about, right?

Like, what am I worried about? How you say too, like, in the presence it all vanishes, which actually makes sense because if this fear and this worry only exists in the mind, the second— and when you're in the mind, you're not The second you get out of this mind, that fear vanishes, right? Because it's an illusion. And then in the present, all there is is love, right? You're truly in the present. All there is is love, um, right? But just about letting go of those thoughts, I think. Like you say, the first, the first thing of all this though is awareness. Like, that is it. Like, you have to be aware and check yourself. And that, that's such a win for you this year, honestly. The fact that you went into those modes, but then at the end of the year you're able to look back and recognize it. Like, those are incredible lessons, right? And I'm sure every year there's going to be— the rest of our lives is going to be— we're not perfect, we're, you know, we're perfectly imperfect. But it's having the awareness, giving yourself forgiveness, and just taking the lesson and just keeping it going.

Oh, it's— and that's the beautiful part of it all. And that's the willingness of being— knowing that you're never going to get it 100% right, right? And that there is no failure. Like, that's the thing. Like, people have to get over themselves first off. Like, people have to realize that no matter what you're getting into, just get over yourself. No one really gives a crap what you're doing anyways. Like, no one gives a crap, you know what I mean? Like, you care way more about what you're doing than anybody does. So don't— so anybody that's telling you you can't do something, you know, I tell them, tell them off, tell them to screw off, right? Like, they do not matter. Go build the life that you want. It's that simple, right? Um, because most— the vast majority of people are miserable and will never ever create the life that they want. So why are you giving two shits about them at all? Why are you even listening to them?

This right here, let me bring this up real quick. Yeah. This quote. I think you know this quote. Let me do this. And then I— that's your screen. This, this StreamYard is great though. You can do all this different stuff. I know, banner going across the bottom, man. It's like—

I like this. Built for Impact, new episodes every Monday.

I like this scrolling, you know, as people come on. It's like, even if they're on for a second Um, yeah, I'm trying to do more lives. I was talking— I was, um, watching some content on it. It's like there was actually a, uh, I guess it was like some soccer game Alex Formosi was talking about it. You know, I, I love him. He has some good stuff, but he's all about, you know, but he was talking with MrBeast, like the guy on YouTube, the biggest guy on YouTube. Of course. Yeah, I guess they had some soccer game, uh, celebrity soccer game, and they were talking about how the different levels of applause people got when they came off. The A-listers, like typical A-listers, got like a little bit of applause. People who made like short-form content got a little bit more applause, pretty steady. The long-form content people were like, yes, yes! And then the streamers were like, everyone's going nuts, right? Because it makes sense because you're on video the most, so people get to know you the most versus just making a little bit of content. So what the hell? And lives are fun too. So you just come on here, it's whatever. It's really just like people just to kind of just like see who you are and get to know you as a person.

And then you can take your lives, and then you can take your lives in your stream, and then you can cut that up into small short-form content too, right?

Like, it's, it's a perfect— oh yeah, you gotta check out Opus Clip AI.

Oh dude, I love it. Oh yeah, yeah. I kind of got away from making a lot of content in the last part of this year because I just wanted to unplug from everything. Um, but so I haven't really been— and my plan is to really stay pretty quiet this this first quarter, for first really, um, oh, the man in the arena. I love this one.

Yeah, this is good, right? Yes, this speaks— I'm sure— let me get— let me hit a better—

it's so true.

There's this— can you see this?

Oh yeah, I can see it.

So the man in the arena, right? It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or how the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust, sweat, and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs, who comes short again and again, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly. This place shall never be with those cold and timid souls neither know victory nor defeat. So his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

What a great freaking— absolutely. It's, it's, it's the whole thing of— my mother said it really good. My mom's one of my best, um, inspirations, like, for me. Like, I, I had two fantastic parents, right? I really did, right? Like, my dad passed away when I was 23, and he was sick my whole entire life and, like, went blind when I was 6 and, um, had both his legs amputated and, like, just like had all these health issues. But like, actually, it's a picture of like him over the— over my door right here that I see, right, every single morning, right? And I got my meditation chair over here, and I can look over there and see him and everything like that. But it's like, like the epitome of never giving up, like no matter what. Like, the guy always had these health issues and just, just always still showed up, right? And it's crazy because he actually died when he was 50, um, just after his 50th birthday. And I'm 50 this year, which is nuts to me, dude. Totally crazy to me. But, um, you know, obviously I didn't— he was a type 1 diabetic. I didn't— I don't have those issues, so I'm much healthier than he ever was. Um, and then my mom at that time was a homemaker. My father was a president of a bank, and he became like, you know, ill and wasn't able to do that anymore and went on disability. And my mom was a homemaker. And then my mom ended up going out and building this unbelievable business as a headhunter, which was 100% commission, right? Very similar to like wholesaling, right? And this was like during the tech boom right? And she ended up like making this huge business and did amazing things, um, for herself and built a great life for us, you know? And I'm always like— I always look at it and I'm like, wow, like what great examples of humans that I had to like be in my life, right? Um, and it's just like The, the, the, the part of, you know, people not allowing themselves to get into the arena of life and play life drives me crazy. And so my mom told me the story of there's eagles and then there are ducks in this world, right? And there's going to be way more ducks than eagles. And those ducks are going to be quacking and quacking all day long. And then there's going to be the eagles that are actually going to go out there, take control of their life, and they're going to do what they say they're going to do. And they're going to soar in the clouds, and they're going to build the life that they want. So you have the choice of either being a duck or an eagle, and it's just a choice. That's all it is.

All day.

And it's like, and that's the— and that is the man in the arena right there. That is what you want to do. It doesn't matter. And so I— dude, like, I can't tell you how many times I failed in my life, dude. I lost everything in 2009, right? Bankruptcy, foreclosure, lost everything, had to start everything all over again. Had an 18-month-old son at the time. Like, literally went and I was so down on myself, living in all sorts of guilt and shame.

Like, went and took a job making $10 an an hour installing DirecTV dishes, right?

And I was like 34 years old, just, it's just like awful, awful, awful. And took me a long time to rebuild it. But like, when I look back at it, it was also the greatest gift that ever happened to me. It's awful going through it, it sucked, you know. But what I can tell you is that like it built me to be so resilient now that when things come up now I'm like, oh, okay. And, and so, you know, and this is where the awareness comes, that survival mode, that scarcity mode, when things aren't going right, that version of me, that 1.0 version that you like, that you call it, right, that 1.0 version that, that lost everything, he still shows his face.

Oh yeah, he tries to, he tries to claw his way back in. He's like banished him into the, into the den, but he's like clawing up, trying to get up every now and again.

He doesn't want to die, right? He's like, I'm not going anywhere, dude, right?

And so stomp on his neck, get him out.

Yeah, and he doesn't want to go away. And so it's like, okay. So it's like, I look at him, I smile. Now I know when he's there, I'll literally— I'll just stop and I'll smile, like, ah, I see you, I got you, I know what you're trying to do to me, but we don't play in that playground anymore. Like, we don't play there anymore, right? We go this way instead, right? And so I wouldn't be able to do that. I wouldn't be able to recognize that unless I had gone through those life experiences that I went through and then worked on that stuff as well. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, I, I don't know how deep you want to go, um, on all this stuff, but I mean, I can get pretty deep on it. In regards to like our subconscious and our traumas and what it can do to us. So, you know, like when I was 10 years old— I think I've told you this before— but like when I was 10 years old, right, like I was sexually abused and raped by my basketball coach, right? Now I can freely talk about this now, but here's the thing. Like, it happened to me when I was 10. I didn't know about this. My subconscious protected me so much, I didn't remember this until 33 years after the fact, when I was 43, when it all came back, when I started doing all this work on myself. And I did this— I did this, like, regression therapy where I went through all this stuff. Now, mind you, like, my mom, my wife Um, other people would ask me at times, like when I was younger, it'd be like, because, because of ways I would act sometimes, they'd be like, were you sexually abused at all? And I was like, no, what are you talking about? I'm totally fine, not at all. You know what I mean? Because I was super protective of my son, and I didn't realize this, but I was super protective of my son when any other male was around him at all when he was a kid. And I didn't even realize it, but I would be like, I could feel it. And like, people that would never do anything to him, like my— they would never do anything to him, right? Like my aunts, my uncles, my, my, my, you know, his grandfather, all this stuff. They wouldn't do anything to him. But like, I would always be like, is this guy gonna do something to my kid, right? And I didn't realize it until I actually like went through this process of going back into this memory of when this took place. And then at the same time, when I looked back after the whole entire thing, I literally purged this out of my body. Like, you ever read the book The Body Keeps the Score?

Dude, it's on my thing. Like, I want to read so bad, keep coming up. You bringing up again, which makes me think—

amazing book. It's also really good because we're both from New England, and like the person that wrote it talks— is from that area. So they kind of like—

is it a woman or a male?

Uh, it's a female. And so there— so there's that. And then like Michael Singer, right, we all know him, he calls them samskaras, right? These things. Like Eckhart Tolle, um, he calls them— he might just call them blockages. Energetic blockages, but you call it whatever they are, samskara, blockages, whatever it would be. Like A New Earth, he goes— Eckhart Tolle in A New Earth really goes down this path as well.

He calls it something, I feel what it is, he calls it like living in the pain of the body or something.

Yeah, yes, the pain of the body. Yep, that's what it's something like that. Yep. And so, so these, these things and these energies that get stored in us and they hold us back and they show up all the time.

That's triggered, right? Like, they trigger us. Yep.

And so I— and so now I did— I do this process, and it's a deep meditation. It's called pit walking, where I can go in. Now I've trained myself, and I do this with my clients as well, because I can't do this with everybody because there's like work that goes to get to this point, right? You know what I mean? But like, it's this deep meditation that I get into, and it is— we go in and we literally find these traumas. And we expound them and we get them out of our energy fields. And it's like the greatest thing in the whole entire world. Yeah, it's the most freeing thing in the world. Um, and we all have them. And here's the thing, like, I've gone back and I've done these so many times that I've gone back to past lives where I've had these happen, and I've been able to take care of things from past lives that I've brought to this one. Now Some people not— might not believe in past lives, whatever, and that's fine wherever you are on your journey. I wholeheartedly know of them and believe in them. Um, we are simply a bag of flesh, right? Like, literally, this is all our body is, and we are just a soul. And currently, like, my name happens to be Gordon Thornton. Like, my soul though is just incarcerated inside of this body for a short period of time. And then I'll die and I'll get to be free again and I'll get to go somewhere else, get to go back to love, and I'll be all set. And that's why, like, I'm not afraid to die at all, like, not one bit, because I know— and I believe this is one of Jesus's biggest teachings that has been manipulated, um, because this is what men do, this is what people do. I shouldn't just say men, but this is what people do, is manipulate stories. But Jesus's name— main thing is about death and rebirth. And that's our same exact story too, is that it's about death and rebirth, right? And like, another really crazy thing is this, is that like my son has the exact same birthday as my dad. They were born 60 years apart, never met each other, born the exact same time. Exact same day, 60 years apart. Like, I don't know, I don't know, you tell me what's going on. Who knows, you might— maybe this thing's going on in this world that we don't know about. I don't know. Um, but like, you know, and I know that like there's so many things that happened that my dad had to die for my son to be born, and it's okay. Right? And it's so freeing knowing that this is just— this life is just temporary. This life is just temporary. So living in this frame that we think, this frame that we live in, that we feel like we have to control everything when we don't control shit anyways. We don't, right?

For all the suffering comes from trying to control everything. Yeah, you control it all and it falls on your shoulders, doesn't it? Everything's perfect. It's all working out in your favor.

Always has, always has. Even the day I die, it's worked out perfectly.

And you know what I think too is interesting way to think about this is when you say you want to— you're, you're— you have a vision for where you want to get in your life, and maybe it feels like a soul calling, like I know this is what I need to do. You're at A, you're trying to get to Z. Your brain's going to map it out logically. We need to go A, B, C, D, E, F, G, all the way to Z. The universe though, and God it's going to say, okay, you want to get there the quickest way to go there is we're actually going to go A, R, B, Q, L, M, O, V, then we're gonna get to Z, right? But every time that you're jumping around like that, your mind is like, oh, this failure or this setback, oh my gosh, it's, it's not— I am, I am off track because it's not going the logical way that I anticipate. When in reality it's all perfect because you needed that setback, you needed that challenge to learn a certain lesson so you could be the person that can hold that future. So if we relax into that and realize that, hey, it's just jumping around, but it's actually the quickest way— let me surrender to everything— life becomes about this flow, right? And you're just— you're, you're in it. You're in it.

100%. It's that— it's that surrender, man. It's that surrender of just trusting, having that faith that everything is going to work out, that everything is going to work out, right? Like, I, I read this thing the other day and it was so perfect. It says— oh, are we ready?

It's right here.

I it. So it says— this is actually from— this is from Living Untethered, right? This is a Michael Singer thing too.

That book is wicked good, the third one, right?

It is, yeah. And so he says this, he says, we live in a world that is so perfect it should constantly blow our minds, but we are so lost in making it all personal that we miss both the greatness of science and the greatness of God. It's like, stop making it— stop making your life personal. Stop being so selfish about your own life, you know what I mean? Like, it's, it's— and if you're on that selfish path, it's okay, but understand that that's just—

has—

that only can be temporary. And you might be in survival mode because you have to be in survival mode, and I get that. I freaking get that to the core, trust me. I mean, trust me, like, I lost everything. Like I said, I've gone— I've had— I've lost everything and had to start all over again. It sucks. But do what you have to do. As long as you're not taking advantage of anybody else, do what you have to do, and then you'll get through it. And then you'll realize that that's just your first mountain. That's it. And then there's another— the second mountain is about service, and, and it's about providing value and really truly creating the life that God wants you to create. Not for you, but for others.

Yeah, and I think, I think one of the important things is once you're climbing the second mountain and once you do the inner work, the real goal begins to operate from overflow, meaning that you are doing things because you're already so whole and complete on the inside, you just want to give it away. I never understood what that meant, operate in over— what does that mean? It means that you are not doing things because you feel lack on the inside. You're not doing these things to make you feel complete, like building a business or doing anything. You're doing them because you just want to. You don't need to do it. You feel so good inside. You wake up every single day, you could never— you could not do anything to be happy, but you have so much love in you that it's just like the energy wants to move, and you have to speak your truth. You have to take action. And that's how you want to build your life, from a place of overflow, right? I like to— I like to say, move when inspired, rest when tired. Move when inspired, rest when tired. Honor rest. Rest is actually productive. That's the belief I had to, I had to redo as well. It's like rest is productive because you can only work so much where then your, your unit per output decreases, right? So it's like, just rest. And rest when you rest and work when you work. Don't be doing this and that. So that's just what I have to work with. Like, I went on vacation to Sandbridge. I should have done what you did. That's my programming. I can't even go on a break for freaking 7 days.

I can't. I know, I know. It's like you got to go somewhere, right? It's like, okay, I'm on vacation, I'm gonna go— I gotta go travel the world and see— which is beautiful, dude, that's awesome.

And that's, that's like what you should do. I'm just saying, I was in Sandbridge on a family vacation and I was like, I wasn't doing real estate work, I was doing other stuff. Like, I could not unplug for 7 days, right? I didn't— but I should have made that commitment. Next, I think I should do what you do every year. Once a year, 2 weeks, I should be like, I'm not allowed to do anything. I need to go on a hike, throw my— put my phone away and just reflect deep, you know? Because it's my program, it's my subconscious program. I need to work to unravel. And I'm still aware, but now I'm always trying to multitask. Like, I'm cooking eggs, I'm trying to watch a podcast. Like, what am I doing? And I'm like burning the eggs and shit's falling apart. I'm like, dude, just don't watch the podcast, just cook the eggs. You don't need to be doing it.

Oh dude, it's crazy. I mean, that's how we're— it's— we're wired. And it's like even that hustle culture of like, we're trying to— we're trying to like hack biohack everything and be as productive as we can. Like, dude, you're like, dude, like, I go, I go walking, I take my dog for a 3-mile walk every single morning, but I can't just walk normally. I have to put a weighted vest on, right? Because I got to make sure I can— I gotta make my body strenuous, strenuous, right? Like, I have to like make it an actual workout. I can't just go and enjoy a walk, right? Like, I'm gonna like come home and I gotta like eat my breakfast and I gotta get all my supplements in. I gotta do all this. Like, it's just like this crazy stuff and like, but you're conscious of it.

And that stuff is good too. It is good. It's good stuff. I think the biggest thing is being conscious of it and understanding, hey, when do I— and being intentional. Like, okay, if you do want to listen to a podcast while you're on a walk, great. But why don't we mix in a few walks where we're not doing that? And if you can't do that, then that's where some problems are. If you physically— if we physically— I can't just do something in silence, it's like, okay, what are we really talking about here? Yep.

No, it's crazy. Yeah, it's so much. It's, it's fun, dude. I mean, it's— and it all just like just depends on where you are on your path too, like, and that's okay. There's times where it's like you said, when it's time to work, it's time to work. And like, you'll just, you know, I have no problem working 12, 15, 16-hour days if I need to. Yeah. And I'll just— for day and night and just keep going, right? And if there's like a project that I got to get done, if there's a whatever it would be that I have to get done, I, I will go because that'll be the time to do it. But then at the same point, I also have no problem taking my foot off the gas and being like, I need to rest because if I don't, I'm going to burn myself out. And so most people, like, you know, there's like some people you'll see on the internet or whatever, and they'll be like, you know, on social media, they'll be like, you gotta grind and hustle and do this every day and blah blah blah and gotta go hard and blah blah blah.

There's no way in my soul, dude. My soul, when I see that, I'm just like, no, I'm like, all right.

And then I see it and I'm like, got it. But you're still on the first mountain. And that first mountain, it doesn't matter to me if you have a billion dollars in the bank. I can tell if you're still on the first mountain because that's what you've defined yourself as, and you think that the more money you make is going to make you more full.

And yeah, I think it's like And we're just here to meet people on their journey. Like, if they still believe that, then that's great. It's like, you know, and if they want that, like, we're not here to change that. We're here for the people that have already done that and who want a better way, you know, and they want a different way of doing it. Like, whatever works for you, man. Like, if that works for you, you like being in fear all the time, then you're doing it right. Yeah, absolutely. But I'm just saying, there is a better way. And it's like you can have your cake and eat it too, meaning that having some level of external success shouldn't cost you your mental health, shouldn't cost you your peace of mind, you know. So don't let it, right? Because as long as you believe that— and the thing is, we're influenced by people because, again, just because it's someone else's truth that they had to grind and struggle and be miserable for, um 4 years to build a business doesn't mean that has to be our truth. Okay. Yes, they got the outcome that they wanted, but you get to decide if there's a better way to do it. So it's like, well, all these people did it and they said it had to be hard. Okay. If you want to fight for that belief, great. You can keep that belief and that's what it's going to be. But you get to choose. And I think it's so simple. It's got to be a better way. We're playing victim. But no, Jake, it's different for me. Different for me. I got this situation. I'm not healthy or I'm divorced and all this stuff. It's like, okay, I get it. Hey, it's hard, it's challenging. What do you want me to do, give you a golden star? It's like, yeah, life sucks sometimes, it's hard, but how do you want to wake up every single day and operate? You get the choice.

Yep. No, everybody has, has their own unique story, but understand that it's all just an excuse and it's all just some sort of resistance. Actually, speaking of that, have you ever read the book, um, The War of Art, or the— by Steven Pressfield.

Oh yeah, I get them confused with the other one, The Art of War and The War of Art. I think it's The War of Art. I think it's the one—

yeah, yeah, the one I'm speaking of is by Steven Pressfield, which is a small little book, but it's all about the resistance inside of us and overcoming the resistance and breaking, right? And it's so, it's so good because we all have it. We all have a story. Like, that's the thing, like, I can come up with a story too. Everybody can, right? Um, but at the same point, do you want to live in your stories? Do you want to create new stories? Because that's the truth too, is that you can literally lift your own veil and your own glasses that you have, that you're wearing, of how you see the world. You literally can take that veil off and you can create a whole new life and a whole new story. For not just— don't do it for you. If you, if you, if— don't even do it for you. Do it for the generation that's coming behind Yeah, and that's what it's about.

That's great. Yeah, it's this book, right?

Yes, it's that one. Break Through the Blocks. Yeah, that's— I, I read that at least once a year. I think I've read it probably 7 or 8 times now. It's a super quick, easy—

yeah, I haven't reread that. A lot of these foundational books I've read like a while ago. Yeah, you know The thing too is like spaced repetition learning. That's the best way to learn. Meaning like you consume something, you wait a period of time, and you go back and consume it again. That's when you really get the goods out of it. But some of these foundational books go back.

And the second time you read it, dude, like I'd re— any book that's spoken to me at one point in time, I'll reread them like you said, like again, a year, 2, 3 years later, and I'll get a whole different message from it because you know what? I'm a different person now that's reading this book too. And I'm now getting the message that I'm supposed to be getting from this book that I didn't see before because I got something else from it before as well, you know. Or audiobooks. Audiobooks are great that way too.

Yeah, check out this quote. I want to share one more here. We can kind of hop off whenever here. Um, my grandpa shared this one with me actually before I bring it up. Um, My grandfather on my mom's side, he was, uh, he worked in the corporate world. He was like the VP of MasterCard way back when, before they were public. But, um, so he was in the business world for a while. But he had a quote, I guess, he kept on his desk all the time. It was this one, it's Press On by Calvin Coolidge. But it says that nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not. Nothing is more common than unsuccessful men. Genius will not. Unrewarded genius is almost a problem. Education will not. The world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve problems of human race.

Mm-hmm.

Get back on that horse.

Yep, yep. Even when you don't want to.

When you don't.

But you can also decide that you're going to come get back on that horse with a whole different perspective, right? And that's the key part. You know, what's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result, right? So yeah, keep on, but also make sure that you are coming in from a different perspective, different lens, an aligned lens of who it is that you truly are. And build that life that truly speaks to yourself. Like, not just this mind ego, but this I am heart that— and you know, you know when you're operating and you're doing what you should do, right? Like, for me, real estate these days sucks life out of me. That's out of me, right? And that's okay. Like, it had a point in a spot in my life for a long time. It still does. Like, I still do stuff, I still do projects. Like, I'm doing— we're developing some land and we're doing land home projects it. We're putting— building affordable housing and like, because I like that stuff, right? Um, but I'm only doing that, and we've done it so often that we can do it at a small scale, right? Like, it doesn't have to be so consuming of time.

Yeah.

And so I can spend most of my time now doing more things of what I love and helping other people.

Yeah.

Which is what it's truly all about, you know? Because being and building like this massive real estate wholesale business. While it sounds great, um, just never really sat well with me. Just never sat well with me.

Yeah, it's great. Yeah, I think another point to recognize too is like maybe you do feel like the way you're operating hasn't been the way you want to operate. It doesn't mean that you have to completely go away from what you're doing. You could also go into what you're doing with a new perspective, a new lens. That's another way that you could filter. So maybe you do completely go away from what you're doing, this dramatic— and it's this dramatic change. It could also be just a shift in how you're looking at things.

So both, both are good. Yeah, absolutely, man.

So good.

Cool, cool. I love it, man.

I appreciate your time. It's great.

Yeah, dude, thanks for having me on. It's been good seeing you.

You gotta get that retreat going, man.

Yes, yes, we have to. We'll connect again on, um, on WhatsApp because we definitely need to get that rolling. Um, yes. Have you heard from him at all recently?

Um, no. I am having him on here, I think, like in a couple weeks.

Cool, I like it. That'll be good, that'll be good. What do you got? What's that?

We got to get together in person. We haven't been together in person.

Yeah, absolutely.

We should have our own trip somewhere. Cool.

All right, I'm ready, dude. Let's, let's talk about it. Let's go away. My main goal this year is to literally, especially after taking those— this last time off and realizing how awesome it's been and reflective it has been. And I'm like, I'm literally breaking— I'm scheduling out way more free time for myself, enjoying life a lot more going forward.

I mean, like, what's the point of doing all this anyways?

Yeah, exactly, exactly. Cool.

All right, brother, till next time. For everyone, all the peace, all the power.

God bless, dude.