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In this conversational excerpt, James Barry and a co‑speaker expose questionable practices in the supplement and food‑ingredient industry. They discuss why manufacturers use organ meat as a flavoring agent, revealing that regulators (USDA/FDA) permit up to 2% organ meat in seasonings, a loophole Barry calls "snake oil" because the amount is negligible yet still marketed. The dialogue also uncovers a convoluted cranberry supply chain: cranberries grown in Oregon are frozen, shipped to China for drying, spraying, pulverizing into powder, and then returned to California for U.S. sale, all without transparent labeling. Barry recounts his experience seeking a co‑manufacturer for his brand Pluck, highlighting how chemists and co‑packers navigate or exploit these regulatory gray areas. Overall, the segment critiques opaque labeling, regulatory complacency, and the difficulty of producing truly "clean" supplements.

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