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22 Mar 2022 · 38 min
Jason Hartman interviews cardiologist Dr. Peter McCullough about COVID-19, vaccine safety, and public health policies. They discuss vaccine injuries, mandates, and the pandemic's trajectory.
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My pleasure to welcome Dr. Peter McCullough. You've certainly heard his name. He's been one of the outspoken voices. We're glad to have him. He's been telling the public some of the things that maybe they wouldn't hear elsewhere. He has 51 peer reviewed publications on infection and has commented extensively on the medical response to COVID 19 pandemic. You've seen him on many media outlets including the Hill, America Out Loud, Fox News, et cetera. And he's actually on vacation in Beaver Creek right now, so really want to thank him very much for joining us. Peter, welcome. How are you?
Well, thanks for having me.
It's good to have you on. So, you know, there's just so much to talk about here. But you've done some interviews in the past maybe two months or so that have really been kind of breakout interviews if you will tell us kind of where you are now, what's going on now in your life. Just give us sort of the current view, if you would. Sure.
Let me give you some context. I'm a practicing internist and cardiologist in academic practice in Dallas, Texas. I spend about half my time in patient care and the other half as an author and editor of a major journal reviews in cardiovascular medicine and as a clinical investigator. And as you mentioned, I now actually have over 54 peer reviewed publications on COVID 19, 660 overall in the National Library of Medicine. I'm the inaugural editor of the textbook Cardiorenal Medicine, the president of the Cardiorenal Society of America. So I've had a big footprint in academic medicine the last two years. I've really thrown my entire scholarship efforts towards the pandemic. I've published the two seminal papers teaching doctors how to treat COVID 19 early to prevent hospitalization and death, the most important phase of treatment. This has been relied upon by multiple home treatment guides including the association of American Physicians and Surgeons. I've been asked to testify now twice in the US Senate, multiple state senates and houses of governance. And as you mentioned, I'm a frequent contributor on most of the major news networks. Tonight I'll be on Fox News. And I can tell you I think the reason why I've been asked to be so engaged as a public citizen and as an academic physician and is I've been true to the data as on this interview I'll cite first author and the paper and publication every time so the listeners can go and see the data for themselves. So the only way to move forward when we're in such a morass of confusion and of misleading statements occurring from all over the map on COVID 19.
Yeah, we really are. You know, sadly, the powers that be have used this opportunity to increased power, suppress freedom, suppress speech, cancel culture is running wild. After January 6th of last year, I really just realized how dangerous that censorship was. It was certainly going on before, but it really seemed to reach a crest at that point. Give us an example, if you would, of maybe a few of the times and instances where you really see a lot of misinformation out there, including censorship as well.
In the last few days, Dan Bongino on his new show on Fox had a montage of misinformation. And most of it has come out from our officials at the NIH and cdc. So one of the strong pieces of misinformation was a statement that the vaccines stop spread of COVID 19. In fact, this was put out by our director of the National Allergy Immunology Branch, and it was picked up by Rachel Maddow on cnbc. And she said the vaccines stop the virus in its tracks, and so a person can never transmit it to someone else. In fact, that was never proven. It was quickly disproven after release of the vaccines. And now data published by Singha Rasham and colleagues from Lancet shows 39% of all transmission is among the fully vaccinated. And with the omicron outbreak on December 10, our CDC told us that over 70% of those with Omicron are fully vaccinated. That comes from our CDC communications. So it's clear that misinformation coming out from our government agencies and then popularized through the media basically misled Americans. Americans are frustrated. They took these vaccines patriotically. They're expecting them vaccines to work. And to prevent transmission of COVID 19, employers had mandates that were completely reliant on the vaccine stopping spread of the virus. And in fact, it's all the floors basically falling out on those.
Yeah, it really has. Maybe, though, it's because they haven't had booster number 14 yet. I'm joking.
The vaccines, even the World Health Organization has statements about these boosters. There's great concern they could weaken immunity, make things worse. There's three analyses now, one by Supermanian, Kampf and Beati, all showing the worldwide mass vaccination program has backfired. In fact, in the countries that have vaccinated the most, they had the highest number of cases and the worst mortality. So it's clear that vaccination was a bad move for worldwide. I don't think any of us were against vaccination. If we would have had a safe and effective vaccine, I think to protect our senior citizens and nursing homes and nursing home workers. Remember, nursing homes was all the action is that's where the nosocomial infections were. Still to this day, 40% of all COVID 19 mortality occurred in nursing home residents.
Wow, that's incredibly significant. And I won't mention the former governor of New York, but you know, certainly part of it. You might have to speculate on this. But why are they doing this? Why is there a misinformation campaign? I've speculated a zillion times, a zillion ways. You know, is it just big pharma? Is it increase control? Is it always looking to fear Monger? And I mean there's so many angles to this, it's just hard to dissect, isn't it?
I think you mentioned breakout interviews. I think one of my first breakout interviews was in May of 2021 with Tucker Carlson. And I told him I thought the most important moniker ever put up on a billboard was that a needle in every arm. And I think from the very beginning, all roads in COVID 19, everything led to mass vaccination. And it wasn't with one or two shots, it was with shots now on a very frequent basis from the very beginning. So those stakeholders that most strongly suppressed early treatment, cdc, nih, fda, Infectious Disease side of America, the American Medical Association, American Pharmacy association, all the mainstream media, the Trusted news Initiative which was all the major media and the major social media, all of those that work to suppress early treatment, also on the flip side are completely and with no reservations and with no fair balance, wildly promoting mass vaccination. So the suppression of early treatment and mass vaccination are inextricably linked. The promotion of lockdowns, masking, social distancing is directly linked to those who are promoting the vaccines. So it's true that if you look at any one of these equations, the answer is always the vaccine.
Yeah, it is. Is there any end in sight to this? Or is, is this just the way it's going to be for possibly years to come?
Because I think you're seeing the one of the ends up in Canada right now you've got big rigged truckers blocking every road into Ottawa. They're not moving. They've been running those cabs diesel morning, noon and night. They got their Families in the back. They've got scientific leaders, heroes, Dr. Pimas, Dr. Alexander, Dr. Hodgkinson, Dr. Byron Bridle. This is a peaceful but substantial demonstration that's shutting down the entire supply chain for an entire country. They've got the prime minister on the run. And I can tell you right now, I think that's just the beginning. In Germany, where it is illegal to have public gatherings, I interviewed Dr. Christoph Ploeth for the America Out Loud Talk Radio McCullough Report. I interviewed him earlier today. He says they are having mass walks, silent walks where and the police confront them. They said, listen, we're not gathering, we're just exercising Together, hundreds of thousands, collectively, millions across the country. The public is clear. They do not want mandates. They don't want to be told to wear masks or take vaccines or be restricted from restaurants or congregate settings. They basically want this to end. And I've been on the side from the very beginning. I've been with the group of doctors that wants to close the pandemic. All of my scholarship efforts and all of my efforts in fair balance to the media, as I'm doing with you, are to close the pandemic and to return to normalcy.
So from a actual health perspective, not talking about freedom and liberty and all that very, very important stuff, what should be done? I mean, you know, should we just all get it and develop the natural immunity and most people will just recover from. I mean, look, I had it, I was down for two days, but I've had much worse cases of the flu and colds. So that wasn't the worst sickness I ever had. I guess I was a little more fearful of it, but I borrowed some gel from my horse and. And it worked quite well, actually. I don't want to say the name of it, but I mean, and I.
Bet it tasted like apple.
Yes, it did taste. It was a tasty apple flavor.
But I think the important points here is that, you know, the public doesn't want these mandates. I'm giving large public programs across the United States. I gave one in Wichita, Kansas. And we had a private doctor's meeting and we asked some questions. One of the questions is what percent of people took the vaccines for medical reasons that really thought the vaccines were going to help them? And the answer is most people early December, January, February last year, and the percentage is about 50%. The eyeball estimate was 50% of people took the vaccines truly for medical reasons. The other 50% took them against their will. They took them for social reasons. And what have you. And that should tell you something. We should never ever take a biological product, in this case a genetic gene transfer technology program for some non medical reason. These are genetic platforms. They inject genetic material into people's bodies. They're loaded on lipid nanoparticles. They distribute, unlike other vaccines, they just distribute their genetic payload to critical organs in the body, including the adrenal glands, the ovaries, the brain, the heart. We've never had a vaccine that goes to the brain. For instance, autopsy studies show the fingerprint of the vaccine being in the brain. We've never had a vaccine that installs genetic material that produces the dangerous Spike protein. This is a pathogenic protein. There are now hundreds and hundreds of papers written on the Wuhan Spike protein. It's known to be lethal. It damages the brain, the heart, blood vessels, causes blood clotting. We've never had this situation where in a sense people are forced against their will to take a vaccine that is, by all sources of research, dangerous to the human body. And now the CDC reports to us record numbers of deaths that are occurring shortly after the vaccine being administered, far beyond what we would consider being acceptable. And so with no proposal for fair balance, no disclosure of safety and efficacy, no changing of the vaccines to make it more safe, no report card and updating, no fair disclosure of the data by the vaccine stakeholders, the CDC and the nih, absolutely no disclosure by the vaccine companies, Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson. America's lost its trust. I mean, we couldn't be in a worse state in terms of a biological program.
I couldn't agree more. And you know, most of my friends that did get the shot overwhelmingly, when I asked them why, their answer was I want to be able to travel, I have to do it, I just have to give in. Or their job, also the job, you know, everyone in my workplace was essentially forcing me to do it or they said I had to take a test every three days. You know, it's a medical apartheid.
Well remember, the tests are not FDA cleared to be done for asymptomatic individuals. So any company that's demanding off label use of a test is overreaching. They are violating regulatory law in terms of indication for a test. And so, you know, what we're seeing though is these types of people that you mentioned, they're taking the path of least resistance, which is, well, I'll just take the vaccine or I'll just try to get an exemption. What really should be done is they should have a meeting with the Board of directors and say, listen, I don't want to do this for the following reasons. We have parents trying to dodge everything as opposed to going in and talking to the school board, talking to the principal and the executive team. Same thing with patients. Do you know? Patients are not presenting the safety data to doctors. So doctors are telling patients, take the vaccine. The patients just literally just run out of the office. They need to turn around and show them. The OpenVaers data report show doctors that 21,000 people have died after the vaccine. Over 40,000 are permanently disabled. 31,000 cases of myocarditis. Confront the doctor and say, how can I avoid one of these red boxes? How can you, when you take your next booster, you know, until people start to have conversations? Right now my whole inbox is full of people fleeing to me. And my response to them is, what have you done? What have you done? Outside of take the path of least resistance, what have you done? And until people start taking action, it's going to continue to be a collapsing house of cards.
Yeah, it really is. And I mean, we have to assume that all of the negative effects and deaths, various medical conditions and so forth are being massively underreported. I mean, I would just assume that that has to be happening. Right.
Well, and deaths importantly. So I gave you the CDC number. It's roughly. CDC has certified roughly 21,000 people who have died after the vaccines from the Openvaers data overlay in the FAQ of that program. They indicate 90% of those domestic. And so, you know, that would be. The CDC is telling us 20,000 people have died. 20,000 people die after the vaccines, typically in the first few days. This is all just from the CDC VAERS system. We know from prior analyses by Meissner and colleagues that 86% of the time the VAERS forms are filled out by doctors, nurses, coroners, paramedics, other healthcare personnel who think the vaccine caused the death. About 14% is done by family members. Remember, when there's a death, unless somebody retrieves the vaccine card, they can't even make the entry. So the thought is that deaths are grossly underreported. And now there's a late breaking paper by Panta Zatos and Seligman from Columbia in the Research Gate preprint server system, same service system, by the way, that the NIH uses and their estimates are using U.S. census data and vaccine administration data, that the real number of Americans that have died could be as high as 187,000 after the vaccine. We've had 220 million people take the vaccines. And that would mean that the VAER system has an underreporting on death at about 20 to 1. And that actually fits with what we're hearing from the actuarial data now. So the insurance industry is reporting a 40% upward shift in mortality of people ages 18 to 49 in the actuarial tables. More than a 10% is considered a giant shift. We now have a report of another one showing the exact same thing. The only thing that's changed from 2020 to 2021 is the COVID 19 mass vaccination program. The actuaries are clear, it's not COVID 19 respiratory illness that's driving it. Remember, the average age of death with COVID 19 respiratory illness is 83. It's not in the slower age group. So there's great concern now that through a dangerous mechanism of action, the clear evidence that the vaccines are related to the non fatal organ injury syndromes. In fact our FDA agrees, the FDA agrees that the vaccines cause heart damage, for instance. This is in the open. So we have, in a sense we've fulfilled what's considered the Bradford Hill penta causality, meaning there's a very strong signal. 21,000 deaths when normally there's 150 deaths per year after all vaccines combined. Number two, there's a very strong temporal relationship that 50% of the deaths occur within 48 hours, 80% of deaths within a week. Separate analyses from Rosa McLaughlin have shown that we've got a dangerous mechanism of action. There's been hundreds of papers showing the spike protein itself is lethal. And that's what the vaccines do. They install the genetic material to produce the spike protein that we have internal consistency. We have lots of non fatal organ injury syndromes that could be fatal like heart attacks, blood clots, strokes, et cetera. That we have external consistency, meaning we see the exact same pattern in the UK yellow card system and in the European uterus system. And finally randomized trials. We have randomized trial data, the aggregate data from Pfizer randomized to placebo or the Pfizer vaccine. There's more deaths with Pfizer vaccine than there are placebo. In the randomized trials we basically have fulfilled all the Bradford Hill Penn itself causality. If this was a court of law, we would convict the vaccines on a more probable than not basis. That they're killing people.
Yeah. Wow. It's just incredible that we're in this situation. I'm in shock.
Well, people know it. People know it. That's the reason why People are willing to walk off the job. Listen, if these vaccines are safe and effective, we would take them. Our kids go to college. They're all mandated to take the meningococcal vaccine. You've never seen a meningococcal vaccine truckers rally. Doesn't happen people.
I got all my other vaccines.
Me too. I took them all. My kids took them all. So listen, people do not have a problem with safe and effective vaccine. They have a problem with this one because they've seen their loved ones, their family members, their friends, their circle of friends and their church members and their employees at work. They're seeing these individuals die after mass vaccination. You know, the rates of vaccination in the United States plummeted in April when the word got out that the vaccines could result in death.
But why? Why only some people and not others? Is it some kind of pre existing condition? Does that only apply to certain groups of people or why some and not others?
We only have one analysis of the vignettes and that was done very early in April of 2021. First author was McLachlan and colleagues from Queens and analyzed vignettes strictly according to causality and they independently coded the written vignettes. Two different doctors and then they had to reconcile it. They concluded 86% of the deaths had no other explanation. So the idea of a smoking gun was the vaccine. But the important risk predictors. That type of analysis hasn't been done outside of McLachlan showing those who die after the vaccine are our seniors. It's the same people. We try to protective of the vaccine. So we're seeing basically older individuals who are frail, probably have multiple medical problems, heart and lung disease, blood clotting disorders, prior cancer. They can't tolerate several weeks of production of the dangerous spike protein. Analysis by Elaine Ogata and colleagues from Harvard showed the spike protein is produced in the human body for at least two weeks, immeasurable at high concentrations. One individual in that study, it was circulatory for 29 days. Now analyses by Bruce Patterson at all in the pre print server system and on America loud talk radio McCullough report as well as Banzel and colleagues all implicate that the spike protein is installed into the human body and may take over a year to clear out. The spike protein. We know this causes inflammation, organ damage almost certainly causes neurologic injury. We should not have the installation of a foreign protein in the human brain that is beyond any limit of acceptability. It promotes blood clotting. That's the reason why the pilots association is reporting record deaths we think in the pilots because of almost invariably thromboembolic deaths. When all the deep dive is done on January 24, 2022 we had historic US Senate testimony panel called the COVID 19 second opinion panel chaired by Ron Johnson co moderated by myself. Towards the end of the meeting there was testimony by lead attorney Tom Rents by co counsel Lee Dundas from the Department of Defense called DMET or the Disease Epidemiology Database and they have vaccine administration records and they have disease categories. They showed multiple fold increased risk of cancer, neurologic disease, heart disease, rheumatologic disease, hematologic disease, multifold increased risk, increased risk of abortions, stillbirths, miscarriages in those who took the vaccine compared to those who took the vaccine year over year compared to baseline before we had vaccines. So these are. We have convergence of data all over the world suggesting the vaccines are causing great harm.
So if someone is listening to this interview and they got the shot, is there anything they can do? Number one, is there any antidote? Can you get it out? Right? That's one question. But the other question I don't want to forget to ask you is is there a time frame, you know, by when someone's out of the woods, so to speak, where if they didn't have a side effect and it's been six months, are they clear? Or maybe we just don't know. I'm guessing that's the answer.
Most of the data in the CDC VAERS system and in the published reports, by the way, there's over 40 peer reviewed publications in the National Library of Medicine from the VAERS system. So believe me, it is being published. There's over a thousand papers on vaccine and injury syndrome. So the medical literature is being filled with these new diseases. We have over a million injured Americans now. This is a brand new genre. This is worse than a war, honestly, this is worse than a new crop of GI veterans. But here the idea is, is there any buyer remorse? Can anybody take the vaccine and keep their job for a few months but then detox off the vaccine? Unfortunately, it doesn't look like there's anything hopeful. Our federal government isn't recognizing vaccine injuries. There's no investment in research. So the only thing I've suggested to people is you can go to the World Council for Health, World Council for Health, it's a yellow and pink website background and they have a few suggested things to be done for in a sense remorseful people after taking the vaccine. But the most important message is don't take these to begin with. For those who've taken the vaccine, I'm following closely in my practice so I can mention my practice experience. I think beyond six months and nothing's happened. I don't anticipate anything will, but I have seen a late blood clotting event, the arm that took the shot become completely blue, develop a giant blood clot, need surgery, removal of the first ribbon. Remember, there's 40,000Americans now are permanently disabled after the vaccine. I've completed some of these disability reports in bears and a lot of times it's that it's the arm. It's either a blood clot in the arm or in fact the vaccine has actually paralyzed the radial nerve. And so there's the inability to fully use the arm. And sadly it's happening in young people, young mothers trying to care for their children or carry out their careers. These disabilities, blood clots. Laura Ingram had a wonderful woman in her 70s on took the vaccine, had blood pressure shoot up, intracranial hemorrhage afterwards. It's been well described now in the best cardiology journal called hypertension. So I've personally spoken to her because I'm a frequent contributor on Fox News. These vaccine injuries are rolling in now and Americans know about it. That's the reason why rates of vaccination are at a standstill. People won't take the vaccines and they won't accept the mandates.
Wow. What about a monitoring issue? You said you're monitoring some of your patients. You know, you cited inflammation. Right? Inflammation is a big deal. Of course you know that. I mean, you're the doctor. But I've, I've always sort of theorized that there's only if we don't die from something acute, it's really inflammation or oxidation. Right. Love to get your opinion on that, by the way, but inflammation's a big problem and I mean, can we monitor our level of inflammation or any post vaccine metrics?
Yeah, there's a couple of general metrics. One is general inflammation, high sensitivity crp. There's a general measure of hypercoagulability or blood clotting. That's the D dimer. And again, these are just general associations. Again, the stakeholders do not recognize vaccine injury syndrome. So this would just be clinical judgment without any guidelines support. Importantly, I'm a cardiologist, so I'm fielding myocarditis. We have over 30,000 younger individuals with heart damage. We know it's 90% boys. Peak age range is 18 to 24. So it's actually consenting college kids and.
Their hearts should be in great shape.
And their heart should be in great shape. But it extends down now to children age 5. In a recent paper by Hasi and colleagues from the CDC and the MMWR December 31 issue 2021, elevations in troponin and evidence of heart damage by echo as revealed in that paper. First time we're seeing children before puberty sustain heart damage due to a medicinal product, a product they don't need since COVID 19 is mild and self limited in young people. And so what we know there in myocarditis that the testing involves an EKG, blood testing for high sensitivity troponin blood, BNP, galectin 3, ST2 echocardiography and then when MRI is done in two series, one by Tron and the other one by Schauer and colleagues, 99% of young people have active heart damage by MRI. It's the worst findings we could ever imagine in the shower paper. The really concerning feature is that the symptoms are so subtle, so many of these kids just had fevers, some mild muscle aches. So I've said on national TV back in June, I say it today. I think myocarditis is the tip of the iceberg. All these younger individuals taking the vaccines. It's very possible based on the current data published. There's over 200 papers by the way in myocarditis. It's very possible that large fractions should it could be sustaining heart injury and they have no idea what's going on.
Unbelievable that that is just so incredibly sad. Maybe the last area I wanted to just cover and I so appreciate you taking time out of your vacation. You know you're missing the ski slopes right now. We really appreciate it and thank you for doing that. But fertility, that one takes a little longer to play out. Right. For us to maybe know what are you thinking about the fertility side effects. Which side of the equation are they on the male or the female? Just tell us what you're thinking there.
A couple of data points. The Japanese pressed Pfizer to do a biodistribution study. They wanted to know what the lipid nanoparticles went. There was a prior paper published in the Chinese literature in 2019 showing these lipid nanoparticles went to the human ovaries. In fact they have a figure showing the reproductive involvement that the lipid nanoparticles would indeed target human reproductive organs. That was shown by the Chinese before the COVID 19 vaccine program. So Japan knew that and they pressed Pfizer. Pfizer did a biodistribution study in animals. Indeed they showed the lipid nanoparticles hyper concentrate in the ovaries of the mammals. Now they also go into the adrenal glands. Autopsy studies show fingerprints of the vaccine in the brain, the heart, the human testes. The thought pattern here. There's been enough press on this that even with the first shot, women report their menstrual cycles being disturbed. Well, that tells you that in fact estrogen and progesterone balance is being disturbed. The Chinese in their paper show the lipid nanoparticles target the corpus luteum, that part of the ovary, with repeated injections. Because the genetic material is taken up by these human reproductive cells and the spike protein is generated, we anticipate the human body will recognize and attack the spike protein and the spike protein that's expressed in human ovarian cells will be attacked by our own bodies. So you can imagine on shot one, that primes the system. Shot two, now the immune system is ready to attack. And each time the lipid nanoparticles target the human ovaries. Shot three, in fact, it's going to happen again. I can tell you as a medical doctor, with repeated injections, it would be well within the range of possibility that egg production would go down. Menstrual cycles are already being disturbed. There's multiple studies showing that. And then in men, it's certainly possible. We have not seen cases, flagrant cases of brochitis, but we do know the respiratory infection can cause architis. There was a paper published by what's architis? Bronchitis is inflammation of the testicles. The Chinese showed in a paper of individuals with a respiratory infection of men who had testicular discomfort. They underwent an ultrasound examination in China and in this paper they demonstrated that 29% of the men met ultrasonic criteria for bronchitis or testicular inflammation with the respiratory infection. And the pathogenesis of the respiratory infection is the same as the vaccines. It's the spike protein. So I think it's well within the range of the data to expect that the vaccines will damage fertility, probably more strongly on the female side and to a lesser extent on the male side. But in a few years, if there are troubles conceiving those who ill advised took the vaccine, I wouldn't be surprised.
Wow. For those who always say it's a tinfoil hat theory to talk about how they want to reduce the population, that is probably not the case anymore. This is mainstream. Maybe it'll Even be on dating sites vaccinated or unvaccinated. I remember looking on one last year and seeing, you know, if you're not vaxxed or not going to wear a mask, you know, don't bother reaching out to me, don't bother emailing me. Right. And I just thought it was so amazing how this sort of mass formation psychosis, Right, that everybody's been talking about hit the dating sites. But now maybe that'll flip and be the opposite as we see these fertility problems come out. You know, check the box that you're unvaxed because then you could have a family. Right.
Well, it clearly tipped the tables in the decision in the rabbinical court for the Orthodox Jews. I testified in rabbinical court multiple times and it really was the concern over fertility that was one of the biggest factors where the rabbinical court said, forget it. No vaccination for young people in their culture. So it's not going to happen.
Wow. Anything else you'd like to say as we wrap it up, Peter? You know, just questions I haven't asked you. Whatever, whatever you're thinking about.
I think your viewership should look for a fracturing of decisions going on now. This is like a wall that's crumbling and bricks fall over one way or the other. So for example, I was in Washington D.C. i gave a speech on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, 35,000 people in the crowd. I gave the lead off medical speech and, you know, defeat the mandates rally. First time we had 35,000 people walk from the Washington Monument to the Lincoln Memorial. We had is an orderly group, intelligent, highly perceptive. There were no naysayers there. People just wanted to learn. Presentations by scientists, by lawyers, by employees, choir groups. Music really was tremendous. Then we moved into the US Senate testimony on January 24th. Five hours, dozens of doctors, scientists, PhDs, patients, nurses. Extraordinary in a sense. Five hours of chew bombs. But the point is, we were there in D.C. and we couldn't even buy a cup of coffee without having a vaccine card. Well, we go a few miles over into Virginia. No masks made it. We went to restaurants and everything was normal. Obviously it's the same virus, the same small region, but you see a fracturing in policy. I just finished a program with Canada. I'm up here in the Rocky Mountains. They're just in the Rocky Mountains north of me. In Canada, they can't even fly. I float here to Colorado. No vaccine needed, no mask needed, anywhere around, and everyone's healthy and fine. And in Canada, they can't even fly. They can't even live their life without taking a vaccine.
And if you think Canada's bad, look at Australia.
Wow, right? But look at the fracturing. Look at how the uk, England, Scotland and Ireland dropped all mandates, period. I've communicated with them and the word I'm hearing is they're not taking the vaccines anymore. If they're not going to be mandated, they're not taking them. Sweden just decided no vaccination for young people. So I think you're going to see a fracturing across the when you start. Denver just announced no mandates within the city. Starbucks and GE just dropped their corporate mandates. So I think you're going to see now a fracturing as this wall begins to crumble. The vaccines had no scientific support. The virus that's made its run in the population, we were always able to treat it. We'll treat the remaining cases. There's no more emergency. The emergency phase of the pandemic is over with. Doctors can step up, treat the remaining patients. We now have even more EUA approved drugs to use and then that the society can return back to normal free of the threat of the vaccines and largely free of the threat of the respiratory illness.
It concerns me though that this has really been a test for the elites to test their ability to do these types of things. And sadly I think they won in a lot of ways because there will be another thing, you know, in a few years, right? There'll be another one, another this, that, you know, a bird flu, a swine flu, a sars, you know, mad cow, whatever it's going to be, right? Or the continuation of this one to the Zeta. I mean, thoughts on that?
You know, I can't. It's very hard to predict the future and I go on national TV a lot, I tend not to over predict, if anything I underpredict and then I'm willing to upgrade my recommendations. I did that for Delta and for Omicron. We now have Ba1 which is the Omicron main variant and Ba2 is subvariant where there's a back mutation with actually some replacement of code that was previously missing. So we'll follow these developments carefully, but the principles are clear. We need to treat high risk individuals. The vaccines don't work. They have no effective coverage over at Alta or Omicron. Vaccine manufacturers agree, who agrees by the time the vaccine manufacturers have something for Omicron, it's going to be extinct. Remember, Omicron is like milder than a common cold. So most people are saying, listen, I'll just take the drippy nose for a few hours or a few days and not risk the vaccine. So you know, the case to be made to take a vaccine, you know, the burden of proof is on those who are actually promoting the vaccine and without giving fair balance, I don't think anyone is going to accept them.
Peter where can people find out more about your work?
Well, you can follow me across social media platforms. I've markedly improved my social media profile so you find me in general etermicullamd but I'd like for everyone to drop in on America Out Loud Talk Radio the McCullough Report America Out Loud Talk Radio McCullough Report I issue a report to the nation in an audio podcast and it's been a brief write up with references and helpful figures and diagrams and it's very, very popular across the platform. It gets an airing on Saturday and Sunday, then a encore and then it hits the podcast network on Tuesday and it's an unassailable platform. It's not like Spotify is trying to do with Joe Rogan. I had a breakout interview with Joe Rogan and unfortunately Joe Rogan was attacked. I showed up with scientific slides that were curated. They were fully continuing medical education approved and Joe Rogan was attacked. And no one attacked me. In fact, the slides were unassailable. I volunteered them up to Jen Psaki as she attacked Rogan and tried to imply that he should be censored. And Joe's just the journalist, just like you are. And you know, not a single person who's engaged me directly in any type.
Of conversation that should tell you something very, very interesting. They're probably afraid to. Let's hope you continue to spread your voice and your side of the story on on social media, because that's a risky place as well. But thank you so much for joining us, Dr. Peter McCullough. We appreciate you taking time out of your vacation for us and keep up the good work. Thank you so much.
Okay, thanks for having me.
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