LS 110 - Hillary, the Other Woman, with Dolly Kyle

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Welcome to the show. This is Jason Hartman, your host. And every 10th episode we do something kind of special, kind of different. What we do is we go off topic. So regardless of which show it is on the Hartman Media Network, whether it be one of the financial shows, economics, real estate, investing, travel, longevity, all of the other topics that we have, every 10th episode we go off topic and we explore something of general interest, something of general life, success, value. And so many of our listeners around the world in 164 countries have absolutely loved our 10th episode shows. So that's what we're gonna do today. And let's go ahead and get to our guest with a special 10th episode show. And of course, on the next episode, we'll be back to our regular programming. Here we go. We have a really interesting guest for you today. It's my pleasure to welcome Dolly Kyle to the show. She is a childhood friend of Bill Clinton, formerly his adult lover. They had a relationship before and during his marriage to Hillary, and she's author of the new book He Hillary the Other Woman. Dolly, welcome. How are you?

I am just doing great, Jason. It's nice to talk to you. And I think we have quite a few things that will be interesting to your listeners.

We sure do. We sure do. It's great to have you on the show. So tell us about your relationship with Bill Clinton. Did you meet in grade school or give us that background?

All right, I'll give you the background, which is a bit lengthy, but I'm a novelist, so everything's a long story. But I met Billy when I was 11 and he was 12 going on 13. We were both playing golf at the Belvedere Country Club in Hot Springs. I was friends, he was friends, and our friends knew each other and they introduced us. It was an instant and I might say mutual attraction, something that the Italians call the thunderbolt. And we became very close friends in high school. We dated and we were friends, but I did not have sexual relations with that band major Billy Clinton when we were in high school.

Got it. And make sure. You're wagging your finger.

I can't do it without wagging my finger. Anyway, so Billy and I had a really intense and deep friendship that lasted for many, many years. Decades, actually. But at the end of high school, Billy was going off to college at Georgetown in Washington, D.C. i was going to SMU in Dallas. And Billy told me then we had some pretty serious discussions. But he told me that over the long term, he thought I needed to marry someone for security and that he had plans for his life and that I was a big distraction to him. So I didn't quite understand that. But he said he wanted to be President of the United States, even.

Even back then. Oh, wow. Interesting.

Yeah. And in fact, everyone knew it in high school because the summer between his junior and senior year, Billy was elected to the American Legion Boys Nation. And there was a very famous picture of him shaking hands with President John F. Kennedy in the Rose Garden at the White House. I've actually had people say that that was a photoshopped picture. I mean, it is amazing the silly things people come up with these days. But anyone who has questions should call me or contact me on my website, dollykile.com and just ask, because there's no point in having these silly rumors going all around the world. It's easy to fix things these days. But anyway, so Billy went off to college, I went off to college. And right before I left Hot Springs to go to SMU on August 1, 1964, I was drugged and raped by one of Billy Clinton's friends. And I mention this because it's a very important part of the entire story. And I dedicate my book to survivors of rape and sexual abuse. And of course, at that time, I never dreamed that Billy Clinton would be a rapist and serial sex abuser. Never, ever dreamed it. He seemed like such a nice guy. Anyway, years later, I mean, we stayed connected in terms of writing, calling, seeing each other on vacations and things like that. But I married, had three children, finished college, ended up getting divorced. And so that takes us to 1974. So this is 15 years after Billy and I met. And this is when we began our, as I call it, adult relationship. Okay, so this was January of 1974. Are you still.

How old were each of you?

Well, I was 20. Almost 26. I was 25. And so Billy would have been.

And he's a year older.

He's two years older than I am now. That's the other thing. We graduated in the same class from Hot Springs High School, 1964. I skipped two grades in school.

So I'm glad. I'm glad to hear he didn't get to flunk two grades. Yeah, that's good.

No, but, you know, I try to work that in, usually because so many people want to say, ah, she's a bimbo. I don't think so. People just hang on and listen. No bimbos here. Anyway, Billy and I reconnected In January of 1974 as adults, you would say. At that point, Billy had been living with Hillary at Yale, and then they graduated, and she went to Washington to work on the Watergate Commission thing. And Billy was in Arkansas at Fayetteville at the University of Arkansas, teaching in the law school. Well, he had told me In, I guess, 72, in the fall, that he was moving in with this law student named Hillary. And so I heard a girl's name. I said, oh, yeah? So what's the story with that? He goes, oh, no big deal. She's got a place to live. I'm moving in with her. Okay, fine. So he acted like she was no big deal. And guess what? He never changed his attitude about that, did he?

Not much. No, I guess not.

Not much. She was no big deal. Okay, so 1974, I was living in Little Rock, divorced, with three old children. Billy was in Fayetteville. Hillary was in Washington. Billy seeing all of us at certain times, and I say all. He was also dating Marla Kreider, who was a junior at the University of Arkansas. And Billy was running for Congress. Marla volunteered to work in his campaign, and then they began having a relationship. So before anybody gets too curious about how I know about that in this small world of Arkansas, years later, Marla ended up dating my ex husband, and she became friends, very good friends with one of my daughters, and knew about my relationship with Billy. So she told my daughter about that. So that's how I know what I know about Marla. And she was a truly lovely woman. Well, Hillary sent her father and her brother to Arkansas to spy on Billy, ostensibly to be helping him with his campaign. But if anyone thinks that two guys from Chicago can come help in Arkansas, they don't know much about the culture here. Anyway, they came down to spy on him, and I guess found out about Marla. Hillary swooped in from Washington, went through Billy's papers and everything and found these cute little notes and cards, letters from Marla, and shredded them and started calling Marla in the middle of the night, threatening phone calls. And so this was the first of what I know of Hillary Scissorhands destroying documents that would in some way change the story that she was trying to present. The first spell.

Well, that was probably before they had widely available consumer paper shredders. There you go. You know, folks, listeners, I just got to tell you, Bill and Hillary are such easy targets to pick on that I just have to be snarky. So pardon me. Yeah, go ahead.

I mean, jump in and do it. It's almost impossible to resist, by the.

Way, just to give the listeners a sense of context, Dolly, when is the last time you had any communication with Bill Clinton or. I love it, as you say, Billy, you know, when's the last time?

Well, I hate to say this, but as I am 68 years old and he is 70, we mostly run into each other at funerals these days.

Wow. Wow. So you. You have seen him. I mean, what, like, when's the last time?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, this is Arkansas. Okay. And he likes it here. And he comes back and he has this little Hugh Hefner penthouse up there at the. What do you call that they call. We call it here, the Clinton Liberry. L I E B E R R Y the library. Yeah, the library. Yeah, the library. Which is sort of a play on our Arkansas hickness. And lying. Yeah, and the lying. It's full of lies. Actually, there's. They're probably more omissions, I guess, than just lies. You know, the big part with the Clintons is leaving out the part of the story that you really need to know to know what's going on. Anyway, so we're rocking along. In the spring of 1974, Billy's running for Congress, and I talk about this in the book, and also. Well, I don't usually mention it, but for some reason I feel like saying I am a novelist, and I've been writing novels for 30 years. And in some of my loosely autobiographical novels, I expound upon some of these more interpersonal relationships and the things that happened in terms of the politics and the romance and all of that. But those are not to be confused with this Hillary the Other Woman, which is a true story. And it's not on my website or anything. It's available, you know, through WND Books and Amazon and all that regular stuff. But I'm just saying, for anyone who may be interested in the. More what do we want to say? Personal aspects of this, they might find it interesting to look on the website and you can go there and not have to opt in and read 100 pages free and all like that. So if you find this story a little bit intriguing, go there and just eavesdrop and take a look anyway. But this story is Hillary the other woman, and it is a true story. So let's see. Well, it is. So that's when I met Hillary. It was in the spring of 1974. At this point, of course, she was in Washington, but she came to Arkansas for the Democrat primary. So this is important in Arkansas. And it was May 28, 1974. So Billy and I were still dating. He called me, as he had done on many occasions and said, going to be flying into Little Rock. Will you pick me up at the airport? Well, sure. Right. This is, this is not an unusual thing. So he said he wanted me to pick him up. He was. And then take him to the TV station. He was going to do a statewide interview, which you couldn't do anywhere else. Only Little Rock had the facilities at the time. And I hate to say it, but maybe only Little Rock has the facilities now. But anyway, so he was going to go to the TV station and then I was going to take him to the headquarters of Senator Bill Fulbright. Now, Bill Fulbright, your older listeners will know, was just the most amazing, wonderful man. Represented Arkansas in the Senate for 30 years. He was not only a mentor to Billy Clinton, but he was, oh, just about as close to a father figure, a decent man, father figure as Billy ever had. I mean, he got Billy a job when he went to Georgetown. He introduced him to everybody in Washington. He helped him get the Rhodes Scholarship to go to Oxford. He helped him get into Yale Law School, helped him get the job teaching at the University of Arkansas. And then most importantly for this particular little story is that Bill Fulbright introduced Billy to the money people in northwest Arkansas who would support him in his race for Congress. Okay, so that was really an important piece. So here it is, it's the night of the Democrat primary. I'm going to the airport to pick up Billy. He gets off the private plane and there's this dowdy looking middle aged woman with him and three guys in gray suits or whatever. And as they got closer, I realized that this was not a dowdy middle aged woman, it was a dowdy younger woman. And I looked at her because she was really rather strange looking to me. And I'll admit, you know, I was Margaret Mead in Samoa at the moment. I had never seen anyone who looked like this. Let's just say in the south, women shaved their legs and their toes, you know. But anyway, Billy looked at me kind of funny. He says Dolly, this is Hillary. Hillary. Dolly. And I consciously had to not laugh because I thought, okay, this is some kind of a little joke Billy's playing. Has this hideous looking woman here.

I mean, is your point in saying that. That this is what so many people think, that the Bill and Hillary marriage is really a business deal more than anything else?

Oh, well, yeah, yeah. But I mean, and seriously, Billy always had good taste in women. I mean, he liked pretty girls. And. And I mean, I really.

Hillary wasn't one of them, right?

Oh, my gosh, no. And I'm not being tacky. And here's the thing. I know I'm an attractive person, and I always have been, and thank God for it. I didn't do anything to get that way. But, you know, and Hillary was rather unfortunate. Look, more than unfortunate looking, but, you know, anyone can try to do something.

Your point is that she didn't try to look, you know, to improve?

Well, and not only that, I realized at that point that I got a little closer. Well, I. I put my hand out and smiled to shake hands with her, but she wouldn't shake hands with me. She just glared at me. And then I realized that she smelled really, really bad. I mean, bad smell. Nasty, greasy, stinky, dirty hair. Her clothes were stained and dirty. She just looked awful.

I mean. I mean, wasn't. Weren't. Weren't. Billery. Bill. Billory Billery. Yeah, we've heard that before.

Weren't.

Weren't Bill and Hillary. I mean, they. They were kind of hippie ish back then, weren't they? Or at least Hillary was.

Well, Billy was wearing. Billy was wearing a suit and tie. I mean, he went through his hippie stage at Oxford and at Yale. Yeah. But. Well, I had never had a hippie stage person in my car, okay? And I was thinking, oh, my gosh, I've got cloth seats. Remember the Seinfeld episode with the valet parker? They smelled up his car. Well, I was thinking, oh, my gosh, what am I going to do to get my car seats clean? But I was nice. I just. We got in the car and we went to the TV station and Billy did his interview. And while we were there, this. This woman was just glaring at everyone and acting nasty. And I thought, man, he should tell her to knock it off around these other people.

So. So she was. She was really protective, you know, of him. Right.

Because she knew he was on the tv. I don't know what she was doing. She just. She just couldn't. She couldn't smile and be nice to people.

Okay.

She was just. She was just glaring at everyone like.

Sure.

Like they were all her enemies, just automatically for no reason that I could ascertain.

Well, she's built for politics. But, hey, I want to. I want to zoom out a little bit.

No, no, no, no, no. You must hear the most important thing, which I'm finally going to get to, and that is that. When we were leaving the TV station, I started to go to Clinton headquarters, and Billy said, no, we need to go back to the airport. This woman had been whispering all this stuff to him, and I said, why? Fulbright's expecting you. He said, didn't you see the election returns? And I said, yes. He said, well, Fulbright's losing. I said, yes, and we need to go over and have pictures taken and console him and all that. And he says, no, we're not going over there. I don't want to be seen with a loser.

Mm. Wow.

And that. And that is the first time that I ever saw anything in Billy Clinton that I thought was a horrible, horrible character trait. And naturally, I sort of subconsciously blamed it on that woman, who was. Whoever she was, because I didn't believe she was Hillary, who had talked him into turning his back on Fulbright. And it just made me sick. It really made me sick. And it's very important because that is a trait that I should have. I didn't speak to him, by the way. I dropped him off at the airport. I didn't speak to him for two years after that. I was disgusted. I should have. That should have been the end of the story. Okay, okay, so.

So what year is it now? Did you say? Is it, like, 1976 or so?

That was 74.

And when were Bill and Hillary married? Just to give us some context?

They got married about. Let's see, they got married, I think it was October 75.

Okay, so. Oh, so that was just a year later.

Okay, yeah, yeah. He. And I was. I was getting remarried at that point. And he called someone the day before I was to be married and said, is Dolly really getting married? And they said, well, think so. And then the day after I got married, he called back and said, did Dolly really get married? They said, yes. And then there was a romantic little story with Billy and Hillary getting married a couple months later.

Okay, so Dolly, tell us about, you know, Bill Clinton and Hillary's response. I mean, with Hillary as a presidential candidate, there have been a lot of stories lately coming out about, you know, Bill Clinton and, you know, all of his sexual predator activities and his philandering and all of this. But to add insult to injury, if you will, the way Hillary has vilified and attacked these women who are, you know, not just victims once, but then victims twice. Are these stories true?

Absolutely. Absolutely they are true. And as I mentioned with Marla Kreider in 74, Hillary scissorhands threatening Marla calling and. And, you know, being Marla was a sweet person. She wasn't accustomed to something like that. And the one piece that follows through all the way is Hillary's shredding of documents when they left the Governor's mansion to move to Washington in 93, when Billy was inaugurated President, Hillary had the visitors logs shredded at the governor's mansion. Those visitors logs would have showed my visits and Jennifer Flowers visits and a whole lot of other women's visits when Hillary wasn't there. And so all of those were destroyed. And I think people could begin to see a pattern here and just trace it on forward right up till today, where she's still shredding emails or anything else that needs to be shredded. So that was that part. The other is that I told Billy in 1977, that was the day Elvis died, August 16, 1977. And it was earlier in the morning. We had been together, and it was before we knew about Elvis. And I told him about my being drugged and raped by one of his friends 13 years earlier, because people did not report rapes back then, and a lot of people still don't. But I was sickened years later when I realized that it was less than a year after that that he raped Juanita Broderick. And I absolutely, positively believe Juanita. I have come to know her on Twitter first and then by phone, and we will meet in person soon. There is no doubt in my mind that he raped her. And it was vicious. And he bloodied her lip and. Which is a trait of a serial.

Rapist, just like she said. Wow. Yeah, that's. That's amazing. I mean, if you run into Bill Clinton today, would. Would you, the two of you, be quite cordial to each other with all the stuff you're saying? I would think you're on his enemies list. And, you know, you got to worry about becoming Vince Foster or Ron Brown or, you know.

Well, I don't. First off, I am a very strong Christian. I am forgiven. I want to say this. Obviously, I was not a goody two shoes, but I have repented. I've changed my life. I've gotten in therapy. I've found out about sex addiction and realized that was my problem. And I've dealt with it, and I talked to Billy about that. But all along, Hillary has been cleaning up behind him, because when she met him in 71 at Yale, she, I think, right then decided she was going to ride this guy's coattails to the White House. And if kids at Hot springs high in 1963 and 64 would write in Billy's annual, Nice to know you, Mr. President, or see you in the White House. You know, if we knew it back in high school, she could have figured it out when she was at Yale. So this was the coattail she chose to ride. And then she had to try to keep it clean. You know, that was. That was what she ended up having to do. Instead of having the gumption, the integrity, the intestinal fortitude, the ambition, the power, the ability to leave him and go make a life of her own when she realized that he was a serial rapist and sex abuser. That is the thing that women need to understand. Men need to understand it, too, about this person, this hypocrite, this liar, this criminal, this accessory after the fact who is running for president. If Juanita Broderick had filed criminal charges against Billy for rape, she could have filed criminal charges for Hillary as accessory after the fact for threatening her to keep her mouth shut.

Interesting. Yeah. Or obstruction of justice or something like that.

No, it's called accessory after the fact. That's exactly what it was. It's like if your friend robs a bank and they come to your house and you hide the money, you're an accessory after the fact.

Wow. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's very interesting. Well, talk to us about some of the financial stuff. I mean, there have been so many scandals surrounding the Clintons. I mean, when they were in the White House, I just. It was like one scandal after another after another. And interestingly, the media was largely friendly to them, but they. They just couldn't not report all of this stuff. So it makes you think, there's just got to be much more than we ever heard about or. Or everything we did hear about was minimized. So talk to us about some of the scandals. And. And by the way, I. I want to say, Dolly, you are an attorney. You're. You're a real estate lawyer, so you have some knowledge as to how this stuff works and Whitewater and so forth. So share some of this story.

I'll try to go through this rather quickly. One of the things that I will say is that my book. Because I have known Billy for such a long time, and our families were Friends for decades. I mean, this goes back a long, long time. And because I was a psychology major before I went to law school, I explained some of these things from a very foundational perspective. And if you know these things from the foundational perspective, as I put in this book, Hillary, the Other Woman, then you can actually predict what's going to happen, which is what I am able to do because of what I know. For example, this whole thing about finances. With Billy, there's a couple of things. It goes back to his mother was the breadwinner in the family as he was growing up, when alcoholic and other abusive stepfathers and other men came and went in his life. Virginia was the one who always made the money. You go back before that all the way to his early childhood. And his mother left him with her mother while she went to finish her nursing degree so that she could earn this money. And Billy's grandmother was called the meanest woman in southwest Arkansas. So if you go back and you know that, then you recognize. Oh, my gosh, this is what this young law student saw in Hillary Rodham, the mean, controlling grandmother who told him when to eat and sleep and poop. You know, this is exactly who Hillary is from an emotional standpoint. And then his mother, the breadwinner, is Hillary the breadwinner. So Hillary always made more money than Billy. It was always her job to support them financially, and they were always looking for ways to make money on the side. So Hillary got a job as the first female associate at the Rose Law Firm. Why do you suppose she got that job? Because of her charm and her abilities. I'm sorry. She got that job because her husband was the Attorney General of Arkansas. And then years later, she was named the first female partner in the Rose Law Firm. Aha. Was this because she had gone to a Southern charm school and became a lovely person and they all wanted her to be the first female partner? No. It was because her husband was the governor of Arkansas. I mean, really, people, you know, follow the money.

Well, okay, so, Dolly, I mean, I agree with what you're saying, but that's not really a smoky.

No, no, no, no.

That's not a big deal. That kind of stuff happens. No problem.

One of the things that Hillary and Billy both always did, they let everyone know that they were always on the lookout for good investments. Okay, so one of Hillary's first good investments was when she hooked up with the broker whose nickname, Red Bone, and he told her he was going to let her in on these cattle futures trades. Well, the key to this is that her friend Diane Blair's husband, Jim. Jim Blair was counsel for Tyson Foods. Okay, That's Tyson Chicken. You know, the big chicken thing, which is huge in Arkansas. Okay. So it took $12,000 to buy one of these cattle futures trades. Well, Hillary didn't have $12,000. She only had $1,000. So she gets to invest in a cattle futures trade for $1,000 that, oh, my goodness, miraculously made $5,000 overnight.

How convenient.

And in the next 10 months, she turned that $1,000 into $100,000, which she said she did by reading the Wall Street Journal. Well, trust me, if the Wall Street Journal could do that, we have a lot more billionaires in this country than we have now.

Hillary, the financial genius. Yes.

Yeah. And so obviously, what was happening was that she was getting a win and Tyson Foods was getting a loss. And, you know, try to follow the money on that, it's very hard to do. But Red, the broker ended up losing his license. The company had a $250,000 fine. He might have gone to prison. I can't remember right now. But then when it was investigated, it was like, oh, well, Hillary didn't do anything wrong. I mean, she didn't go to jail. So that was one of them. And then the other very famous one, of course, was Whitewater. And what's funny about that is I think maybe they put in 500 bucks or something in this ridiculous real estate adventure in northwest Arkansas. And I will say this, chapter 30 in the book, Hillary, the other woman, talks about Whitewater, and I present it in such a concise way and entertaining, actually, I think kind of like a play. Here's what happened. And people read that and they go, oh, my gosh, that wasn't that complicated after all. No, it wasn't. But one of the Clinton truth suppression techniques is they try to make everything seem so complicated that you couldn't possibly understand it. And so everybody's eyes just gloss over, and they just don't even think about it, and they move on to the next thing.

And that. That is so true. You know, that is used in so many things. Things really aren't that complicated in life. You know, the basic fundamentals are relatively simple story, but they try to hide the lie in complexity. And that's done so often. I mean, Wall street is guilty of that all the time. It's. It's the way they operate. So. Yeah, that's very interesting.

Yeah, absolutely. And there's another thing that happened. This one was not specifically financial, but it has been Glossed over and misunderstood or not even bothered with by most people. And that's what they call file gate. I have a chapter called Sick and Tired of all the Gates. Because I think part of what the media has done is attach these words to just poo, poo it. Oh, it's just another gate. Poo, poo. It's just another gate. Let it go. But what people are not understanding is when Hillary got in the White House, she had Craig Livingstone, her security guy whose previous experience had been as a bar bouncer, had Craig get 900 FBI files. Okay, now here's the deal that did not just scare 900 people in Washington who had secrets, because you know what? She didn't publish a list of whose files she had. So every person with a secret in Washington who felt a little bit guilty, which most of us do if we have a conscience, there might have been 90,000 people terrorized by the fact that Hillary Clinton had an enemies list file on them. Allah. Richard Nixon. But so much worse. So then fast forward to the impeachment. Why do you think we had a Congress full of cowards? Mm, yeah, Biogate, right?

Oh, because. Because the Clintons had their files on them, and that's files on them.

And no one knew what she had, and no one was going to step out and make the first peep. And that's why those sniveling sycophants in Congress just sat there with their tails between their collective legs and did nothing and let Billy skate on the impeachment.

And they knew all those Congress people knew that the Clintons had these files. How would the Clintons communicate that? How would they be able to communicate without it seeming like extortion or some sort of illegal threat?

Yeah, well, because. Because what happened was the files disappeared, and there was a Freedom of Information act filed. And I'm not. I don't remember if this one was Judicial Watch or another. And then. And the FBI said, well, the files are missing. They're missing. And so there's a subpoena out for these files, and they're gone for two years. And then at some point after Vince foster's death, these 900 files show up. Hillary says, well, I don't know. They just showed up on this table in the upstairs of the White House. Now, I want you to visualize 10 files on your desk on a table in your living quarters. Now try to picture 100 files. And I don't think they were little skinny files. Now picture 900 files that just suddenly appeared. And the only fingerprints on Them are Hillary's and Vince Foster's.

Incredible. It's amazing that these two have survived, or. Well, I shouldn't say survived, but just they have thrived politically and with all of the scandals and the foundation. And it's just. It is mind boggling how they're able to operate and they just haven't been nailed yet.

And I explain it in the book. It is absolutely in the book. Hillary, the other woman. Chapter 46 is called the Big Problem. And the big problem is that the problem is so big, most people cannot wrap their minds around the breadth and depth of and number of scandals that have been involved around the Clintons. And so they just poo poo the whole thing. Well, it can't be. So let me tell you this. Most of the chapters in my book, four, five, six, maybe seven pages, chapter 46, the big problem, lists the Clinton scandals. And people you should look up and check the connections with the Clintons in alphabetical order. 11 pages.

Wow. Wow.

Just the. Just the names of the scandals, not any description of them, just an alphabetical list of them. Okay. And then chapter 47 is called media Magic, or How to Make a Story Disappear. And this is the key to what's happened. And I talk about some of my own personal stories with the media. I'll bet you don't know that I filed federal RICO suit against Billy Clinton when he was a sitting president. And he filed a motion in federal district court saying he shouldn't have to answer that because he was a sitting president. And he lost, and he took it to the appeals court, and he lost, and he took it to the United States Supreme Court, and the Supremes ruled unanimously in my favor. Did you ever hear about that?

No, not at all. No.

No, you didn't. But you know what? Lisa Meyer, the very respected professional journalist with integrity who worked for NBC, anyway, called me and wanted to do a story. Now, one, Lisa Myers is the same journalist who interviewed Juanita Broderick about the rape. Okay? And it was a very, very powerful piece. And people can find it on YouTube if they don't know about Juanita. They need to look that up. There's no way anyone with a brain can look at that and not know that Juanita is telling the truth. Anyway, so Lisa Meyer called me and she wanted to do an interview with me about this Supreme Court ruling on the steps of the federal courthouse in Washington. Sounds like a good story, doesn't it?

Are you. Are you about to tell us something happened? Lisa Meyer. No.

Lisa Meyer is still alive. And well, but she called me the night before and she said, dolly, I'm sorry, we're going to have to cancel the interview in the morning. And I said, why, is it going to be raining? And she said, no, the NBC higher ups nixed it.

They just somehow. So, so what do you think happens behind the scenes? Do they get a call from Bill Clinton or one of his henchmen and say, you know, they say, if you do this, we're going to do what? How do they intimidate them? I mean, you know, it's a juicy story. The media would want to publish a juicy story.

First off, the media tends to lean a little bit to the left. I mean, I explain this in the book.

No question about that.

They tend to lean toward the left anyway. And then the younger media, I've had a lot of journalists who, when they first talked to me because, you know, I was, I'm not going to say in the public eye because I've done everything I can do to remain private all these years, but younger journalists would come and talk to me and they would say, oh my gosh, this is a scoop. This is a great story. They'd be all excited. And then they either never call me again or they call back very sheepishly and say, well, they, nobody will print that. Yeah, I know. Don't feel bad about it. Don't feel bad about it. But you look at the connections like you ask what Hillary did to me, okay? The reason I filed this RICO lawsuit was because Billy and his sniveling sycophants, and I call them the kkk. The Clinton crime cartel. They ccc.

Kkk? Yeah.

They connived to keep my book from my first novel from being published. I'm talking about another novel here, people, not the true story, a novel. And they planted false stories about me like in the New Yorker magazine, which every publisher in New York reads, right? So you read about some blonde Texas attorney who's trying to sell this wacko story about her lying relationship with Billy Clinton and you know, don't believe her. And that Regnery Publishing wouldn't even touch it with a 10 foot pole. I never sent it to regular. They made up the story from whole cloth and I ended up. I sued the New Yorker, I sued Jane Mayer, who wrote the story. But guess what? Jane Mayer didn't write that story. You know who's Jane Mayer's good buddy? The sniveling sycophant, Sydney Blumenthal. The same guy who came up with the video excuse for the Benghazi Attack. Same guy.

Oh my God, this is unbelievable. The connections, the, the ability to operate this influence machine.

Okay, and then get this, then a reporter from the Washington Post who worked with Bob Woodward, you know of the Woodward and Bernstein, who turned over the Nixon thing, she flew to Dallas and visited with me and we had a great interview. And she said, man, this is front page news. Right. She goes back to the Washington Post. Does it go on the front page? No. A month later they do a little fluff piece in the Sunday supplement. Well, you know what happened? I found out later, Jane Mayer of the New Yorker magazine is married to the editor of the Washington Post.

Folks, this is the danger we America. Even if you love Hillary and you're listening to this, America was not meant to be a country of political dynast, trustees and you know, whether it be Kennedys, Bush's Clintons, I don't care who it is. We've got to have term limits and we've got to not have these families with so much influence. It is, it is. You know, they, they have these networks of people that are all in relationships together and, and they can pull favors and keep stories out of the news and all of the same stuff that you're describing. It doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on, you should be appalled by this type of thing. And if for no other reason, that's why we should not have Hillary as president. Even if you love her.

Jason, I gotta tell you this. I get emails from people saying they've read my book, they've read all the political books, it's the best one ever because it's sort of like a novel in that I'm a storyteller and they love that. And I say, Great, post a 5 star review on Amazon for me. And you know what they say? They're afraid to post a review on Amazon because they're afraid Hillary's people will come after them. This is the United States of America.

Wow, that's just, that's, it's like you've got these thugs that are intimidating people. Well, I will say your book on Amazon is doing incredibly well. I mean you've got, listen to this listeners. Seven, 168 reviews and four and a half stars.

Right? It's 80% positive. Yeah.

And let me tell you something else. If you had 13 reviews, I would, I would be concerned. But 768, even with the intimidation of Hillary and such.

Yeah. Well, listen to this though. I went to number one, this book went to number one on Amazon. Kindle. I can show you the screenshot. It went to number one. I waited, I waited, I waited. I did not get a number one sticker from Amazon because, you know, once you're number one, then you can always say, number one bestseller book. Da, da, da. Right. I had my publisher call them and say, what's the deal? We haven't gotten the number one sticker. They said, well, there's more to getting a number one sticker than being number one.

There's. There's Jeff Bezos, who likes Hillary and runs Amazon.

Exactly. And we said, so what? What else do you have to do? And they said, well, that's proprietary information.

Of course it is. Yeah. Just like.

I mean, is it not disgusting? I get my number one. I want my little gold star. Yes, I do.

Interesting stuff, Dolly. What else. What else do you want the listeners to know about this whole secret life of Bill and Hillary before we wrap it up here? Just, you know, anything. Maybe I haven't asked you or we haven't talked about.

Well, you know, the news today on Drudge and Alex Jones is about Danny Williams, Billy's son by a Little Rock prostitute. And that's a story that should get more traction. I totally believe that. It's true, and I would encourage people get the book. And here's the other thing. If you cannot afford to buy this book and you can get it for $8.69 on Amazon Kindle, and you can read it on your iPhone or anything. If you can't afford that, go to my website, dollycowell.com and tell me you cannot afford it, and I will send you a check so you can buy it. I want everyone to read this and understand what this woman is and how dangerous she is. All the. She's already done so much. I mean, she sold us out on uranium to Russia. She destabilized North Africa and the Middle East. Come on, people. There is just hardly any limit to what she would do. She wants open borders. She wants one world order. She doesn't want to just be President of the United States. She wants to be Empress of the world. And this is a country that should have sovereignty. We have to have informed citizens. And if you didn't know any of what I've said today, you are unfortunately in the majority. And that's a sad state of affairs.

Yeah. Yeah, it sure is. Very interesting, Dolly. Just give out your website once more. Of course, the book is on Amazon and all the usual places, although Amazon, you know, may not ship it to you because Jeff hates Trump and Loves Hillary.

No, they'll ship it. But let me say this, and let me know if you find this to be true. People have called Barnes and Noble, wherever they are. Oh, yeah, we've got the book. Then they go in the store. They can't find it. The manager has either hid it under the customer service desk or it's in the back room. And I have had reports of this from Charlottesville, Virginia, to San Francisco, California, and I saw it myself right here in Little Rock. It's unbelievable. It's like, you know what? It makes me sound like the nutcase because I'm reporting all the things that these people have done.

Yeah, right.

It's crazy. It's Dolly Kyle dot com. But that's about the novels and that's about contacting me and getting the money if you need it to buy the book and go to Amazon. And even if they tell you that it ships in six months, they'll ship it the next day. We've been buying books every week to check on them. They don't know we're doing that because they're not quite that smart. But yeah, the books are coming out. The books are in stock whether they say they are or not. It was number one, whether they say it or not. And I really think you'll enjoy reading it.

Good stuff. Dolly Kyle, thank you so much for joining us.

You're very welcome. Have a wonderful evening.

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