2002 || Darśana, Ārati and Bhāgavatam Class || Los Angeles, USA #JayapatakaSwamiArchives

It's Ram. It's Ram. Sam Kama Sa Sam Club to a place called Vega Life Polar Club where we saw manager Sasha did some programs from the political leaders there. The chief minister, Governor of Assam's birthplace. God took those Templars Ashram his disciples. Ashram, the Somali place. Many different pastime places. And we went to the Himalayan foothills, Eastern Himalayas by Kanchenjam to mention a few of the places he went to. How many likes to see that? Some great special CD. I never seen a CD. They can be obtained for humble donation. 5 hours. Anybody have a question? My name is Jayanta Kaswami. I just flew in from India Nansra. I live in Mayapur, Ghana. I'm responsible for overseeing the preaching of Miyato Iskcon Tennessee for Eastern India, Southern India, parts of South Asia like Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Napal. One of the poorest places in the world. Most comes to this place in ocean also parts of Southeast Asia, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore. Then also I used to be a westing Southeast usa but since two days I merit his status. I don't have any responsibility, but I am so South America, Ecuador, Chile and Bolivia, bless them. Administrative for a congregational teaching. And I went out to to be a meeting with all the other ministers we can gather to discuss how we can work together in creative synergy amongst the ministries including the ministry, the bullets ministry, Cook distribution, foundational preaching, education, communication, cetera. So that we can serve the society and be more useful by working the morning together and utilizing our efforts to harmonize them. So that's happening over the weekend 15th and 16th. Then after that I'll be going to plan for a reading. I'll sing the last for the development of the new temple. Right now we're in the process of making the large touch Temple deities pray rumor pray that they manifest. We see what beauties from the mind your large Rama. And it's going to be a big change in this come we have the life size sh and discussing. We do many programs online for a river. The m saying of the temple development is the social development of a spiritual city and providing services for the whole society. The hospices and our ship shows services for the guru on nice different things attract to side by side with a lot. The social aspect along with the eso temporal aspect would come up. So we'll be discussing all these things for the future. And then I went to Atlanta for the Blue pony hunting festival. 21st, 22nd, 23rd we have the black pantry sculptural events, three day melon and the cheer and Roy festival on a Sunday where we put hundreds of pots of cheering roi with different players and ogre. Traditionally there's about 21 different ways good. It's really easy to have like little moments of cultivating and enthusiastic. But my question is what is the most important way to like keep that desire for love? That's the special. Yeah. It's a very secret thing about Mochitanist movement that normally in order to get this kind of realizations or special spiritual experiences, one has to have to traditionally do all types of austerities, tendencies and practice practices. And then as a result of the ripening fruit of their spiritual development, they would get profound realizations. We're somehow we get a glimpse into these realizations even when I followed by the ones we get like a sneak preview. So having experienced those wonderful things even for a moment, if you have developed a daily practice of chanting an interim number of realms associated with spiritual devotees, taking guidance and instruction and shelter from a spiritual master regularly regular classes and actually doing something regularly with Ka by developing a kind of spiritual routine as a basis for your life a little bit more of a spiritual or your lifestyle that helps to keep your desire to serve Krishna steady and strong. Those experiences and have pure nectar every step. Ram ran this Sam Namaste Sam Ali Ra Sami Matari Sam Yasin ra Rasta Samya Swayam sa Samya Samya. Translation Although no one in this material world is equal to or greater than what she and although his unimpeachable character is followed by great souls who dismantled the mass of nescience, he nevertheless remains as if a devil to give salvation to all devotees of the Lord. Lord Shiva's uncivilized devilish characteristics are never above because he teaches the sincere devotees of the Lord how to practice detachment from material enjoyment. He is called Mahadeva or the greatest of all demigods. And no one is equal to or greater than him in the material world. He is almost equal with Lord Vishnu, although he is always although he always associates with Maya Durga Hind above the reactionary stage of the three modes of determination. And although he is in charge of devilish characters and immortal ignorance, he is not affected by such association. Thus ends the Bhaktivedakta's loan. Translation to text 27, chapter 14, canto 3 of the Srimad Bible So here's the Kasyavaruni is giving his wife some instruction about the voice of Lord Shiva. Since the Lord Shiva is passing by at this time, it would be very offensive to have sexual relations in front of him since this twilight zone is the time when he passes by. So that time is forbidden for sexual unions. But so this particularly warring sign, Lord Shiva in the material world, there's no one equal or greater. He's the greatest and most in the material world, greater than the Brahman. Although because he is Brahma's son, he offers him respect as a father. But actually he's greater and more powerful like a real. It's interesting here reveals that he's not. He's above the cause and effect of karmas. Even Brahma is under the law of Karma. But Shiva is of Yana laws of karma. So that's another important. Sometimes people like to know what's the difference between Shiva and others. Although he's in contact with Durga, he associates with Mayan. The Vishnu does not associate right here with Maya. So it says that just like milk, if you mix some special kind of bacteria within some culture, then it becomes yogurt. So like that, by contact with Maya, lo Siva does engage in material sex procreation, which Vishnu names transcendental. So he's transformed. So it's compared that Vishnu is like milk and Shiva is like yogurt. Nonetheless, he's the most respectable, like Shnava, most respectable spiritual personality. He's detached. Even though he may be associated. He's not conditioned by that slightly affected, but nor is unable to relate with her. Otherwise he remains on the transcendental platform. Lakshmi, she's highly respected. When we go traveling to different temples around India, you find that many of the very famous temples are dedicated to Lord Shiva or his consort Durga for his sons. Morgan Karthikeya, Skanda, as he's known. It's all the same person. As well as Ganesh, who's also known as Vinayaka. This just a few days ago Dasara. They observed hand base of Doorknobs Puja. 10th day, the victory of Ram over Ramana is celebrated. So the devotees, we go to these temples and we respect them as Vaishnavas or Vaishns. That's the principle. Not that some people misunderstand this word. Mistake demigod to be something derogatory. It's the most highly respected personalities, almost God demigod. Almost like God they are in the Krishna. Sometimes I was trying to explain to Christians what all these personalities, who they are explain that actually they're angels. I read once one of the devotees at Mariah Sevakra had a book called the Dictionary or Encyclopedia of Angels. And there's. I just mentioned the book, you know that it was Interesting. It showed that there are something like in the biblical scriptures there are over 16,000 and angels mentioned. And they have categories. Angels who live in a with directly serving God, angels who are managing aspects of the material nature, angels. Like they have all different categories of angels and then child angels called cherubs, the Kumar probably didn't live in that category. Nobody's there. I didn't do like the whole comparative study to actually figure out who's who, you know, in terms of, you know, what they're saying. Someone could probably do that if they took the time research. It would be safe to say that the devas or the Nigas are one category of angels. In a broad sense, angels, memory, wise wife, radiation personalities, even the Parshadas of the Lord are another form of angel. So they respect angels. I mean Gabriel and so many different pastimes or whatever they have. All of them are mentioned with the activities of the angels. So it's just that the semantics are different because we call demigods or devas, they run these games. We're actually probably talking all about the same things, just putting different names on them. So some of these transcendental personalities are called eternal associates of the Lord and they come down from the spiritual world and one or two help the Lord in his pastimes. So they're actually a higher level of angel. They're a higher level of servant of the Lord. There's a personal service sometimes in order to participate in these pastimes to devas also come down. So there are a number of devas that also participated in the leelas of the Lord. Like what you tend to. Who are some of the devas who came down? Lord Brahma came down. Lord Brahma came as Narendra anywhere else. Naroni came as the Devarshi Devarishi Sri Lankur, guru of the Devas me and said Sadashiva and Mahavishu combined become as Advaita called Sadashiva, sometimes called Mahavishnu as maternal potency. So that's another. I'm saying within the material realm, the devas also come down. In fact, during the birth of Vocitanya it says that many devas took the form of villager ladies and Gen Ramanas and they came to the house of a mother Sashim just right here in this picture of their baby Krishna and his birth at Sh Many devas came down also as coward boys and Brahmins and also participated in this Mahavi shaker. They did that for Loy Chitanya's appearance. So they also want to participate like the parshadas that come in the spiritual world, they get a chance. The parshadas of the direct internal potencies, like Vajrani and her extensions, just like Supta, Mandaras, Malita, Ramanandarayas, Nusaka and so on. She also had some of the Macharis and some of the very other transcendent personalities in the spiritual world came down. Was it the first first for the 11th? The ninth. The ninth after ash. I'm confused. But anyway, he's one of the principal associates of Rani, but he took the role as a guru and as a Acharya. Whereas he was actually more senior in the spiritual world than Sanatana Goswami. When Sanatana Goswami, the Leela took a birth as his older brother. So he would offer respect to Sanata. So like that what we were in the spiritual world, what one isn't spiritual like why they are here. It doesn't necessarily have any correlation. So today it's Rabbula Task Goswam, his disappearance. So right on that Vasco swarm he was. I didn't look up to see. I know someone can see Chichen Shar. I'm sure he's one of the Manjaris. I don't know which one. Off hand, I have my dictionary of rationalas in my apple and I just look it up before the class and remind myself I don't have it online. But he was born in the family of a very wealthy landlords. The Govardang and Iranian. Their annual tax rate was 1,200,000 gold coins. That's what they were paying taxes and they were getting also something like one third. One half of that more is what they were earning. So they were positive. They cheated on the income tax, so they got a little extra. They were very wealthy family. A million gold coin. The going rate for a ounce of gold, something like $310, I think. So you can calculate it was like maybe 3,400 million dollars. Those things when you can buy kilos of rice for little shells. And so when the helm health is like beyond compilation. So he was the heir to their throne, to their lordship. He was the Siam to be. In those days it was a feudal system. So they were considered like lords. They had their own armies, they had their own. They were directly related to the emperor, just below a level of king. But in spite of that, he was not having a very beautiful wife. And he was very attracted to Journey Chaitanya, Mahapalus and Krita movement. He kept running away and he came to Lord Chaitanya. And Lord Chaitanya advised him that he should go back to his family and practice Krishna Kancha. Since not to be a market of Wayrading. That he should. Just like the wife had a lover other than the husband. She would be very careful in these traditional families to not be discovered by the husband. So she would be very careful in her dealings with the husband. So like that what Chaitanya said, Keep your heart with Krishna. But do your material activities like that very carefully. No one even will know that there's so much in love with Krishna. You do it for Ka. So Lord Chaitanya give the instruction how to practice. Practice that very carefully. The one here his got arrested in the courts. Because his parents were discovered for a cheating and the income tax. And they escaped. So they arrested the son. Then he convinced the tax collector Chaudhary by embracing him as being just like his uncle and being a regulated person. How his parents parents didn't deal with him properly. And they should be giving him some money. Because he said sustainably religious Muhammadan things like that. So somehow he got also very emotional and started to cry and say Yes, I think you're just like my son. And released him. And then he worked hard a whole deal to get them out of the income tax problem. Imagine doing all that. And he'd been sitting around wasting my time. I really want to be with what you tell him. I follow what he said. But I still want to be with him. But then he had an idea to go to another room. Gave his obeisances. Gave him the famous punishment. Said he was staying away from me like a thief. So now I punish you. And that was the Danda Mahotsav or the famous Chira Darien festival. Plant rice and yogurt festival with tropical fruits. Varieties of fruits which we observe over here in Honihati in North America in a big way. This year we have 21 different flavors of Cherunday. Not much, but Cheradayan also condensed mountain yogurt and philosoph in Thailand. Right? And about 540 pops offered before the meeting goes up the whole altar. If you ever have time to come over, you welcome. Just like we tried to come to the rock action here in Los Angeles. If you're able to come for the new Pan festival. Remember in detail the past times 11 and Aswami. In that festival as well as Prabhupada's pastimes in Northern Merit we have a Prabhupada villa sway many other festivities commemorating that festival. So this raghuhad passed for God a special mercy where he could feed Lord Shmitinanda and all his associates. And Lord Chaitanya also came and took the basal. That was really the feeling the use of his his money a very good spiritual use. After that he begged for the blessing that I not been able to get to. Lord Chaitanya says by now death that I didn't go through you. We can't get to Lord Chitanya without going to Lord Nityananda. So he got the mercy of Nityananda and the Nityananda bless her very soon be able to join Lord She. Then he got to say Lord Chitanya in Zaganapuri. Finally he was accepted and he was put under the care of Surab Namadar. She became the assistant secretary of Otanya. So he had got so much of the Daesh firsthand as well as from Sulnawa that other secondhand information about Shamri Mahaprabhu's later pastings. So later, when Raghunatha Das Goswami went to Vrindavan, he shared all of these pastimes as well as Rupert Goswami also shared his pastimes with Krishna Das Naviraj and Krishna Das Naviraj. And that's how you read the chapters. The sources of most of his information about which attorneys which he wrote down stayed here with the others for swamis. And at that place Krishnaj got his association. Krishna K. Was a respectful Brahmin family and lived in a place north of Kachwal in the district of Berdwan near the Ajai river and the Nansing River. That place through the Jet Lake. And another name of the place. In that place there's a temple to Ram into different deities. There's also the footprints of word. The brother of Krishnadas coming. And this hurt Krishnada Kamila so much. He decided to leave that place. And he chastised his brother the bank because of his defending the devotees of his imagination appeared and gave him initiation in his dreams and a vision and told him to go to Binh Dan. The Krishna samurai has left and the place and went to get shelter of the six of swamis. So he said, and he has taken a child. And he has six Sikhsha gurus which are the six go swamis amongst the whom especially prominent in the negative. But he accepted all the sixes in six. So we went very well sheltered. Sometimes this idea that you don't take a Sikhsha guru unless there's no problem with your Diksha Guru is not the norm. In the Vaishnav community society the normal is that you may have diction Guru in everything. Sikh Chanduru is also depending on who's helping you in your spiritual life, who you respect. At that level he approves of. You know, he approves. So then because he was so much related with the six Swamisa he accepted all of them as his. But obviously he had no problem know in this faith conceivable impossible. So even when he was very old, he loved the labor and he wrote the Chaitanya Cherinamita. And that is considered like the jewel of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu riches. Because it is simultaneously reliable or authoritative in Leela in chronology and philosophy. Some of the books if the Leva is okay, but technology is not exactly right. We get some things fraught a little bit out of work. Or the philosophy might be a little weak. The Chaitanya Mongo hardly has any philosophy and Leela Sorry, but chronology may be not 100% accurate. So whatever Chadesh, you may consider the most accurate for chronology for the accuracy of the leas and the philosophy. For the others they may be awfully elaborate in philosophy would not be as accurate in chronology. But all of them more or less have Leela. Sorry. Then the third personality, Gopal Bhattik or Sweet. Excuse me. Actually I don't know so much about. I know a lot about Gopal. Maybe some other how he actually became Bhattar is also burning. I say I'm a Red. And we joined six Go Swamis join the other Goswamis and also to. Okay, so he. He was trained there in all scriptures. And he also was. And from there he picked him up and took him when departed. Then he went to. Okay, that's very good. Thank youk Shiva lad. Everybody heard what he said. Can you repeat? He said that he was the son of Tapat Mishram. There are two Tapat Mishram Chandrasekar were ordered by which they come to go to Banaras. So they went to Banaras and they waited. It was like really austere. Because Banaras is ahead of the mayor of now they are reaching Vaishnav Rama. But what Shani came then they organized the K and everything. That was for Shankra Sanyasis to criticize B. And finally brought the together of the meeting with Prakasana, the Sarasoti and B. And then converted those followers of Shankara Shankar. So this was one of the pandemic personalities of this whole pastime was Tapa Mishra. So his son is Rana Bhatti was for me. Because also Banaras is the seat of Sanskrit knowledge. In other sea like Nabatin Kurba. For a long time Vanaras was so. But Raghunan Patri Goswami. Just like Jiva Goswami, very expert in Sanskrit and studying all disasters there. So when his father left the world, they have an order which tende went to Vrindava and journey Goswamis. So today is the Duodasi. It's traditional to observe the Chaturamastria in one of three different days. So some people observe it starting in the goddesses and some observe it starting in Goddesses. And some do it starting in Purim. It's usually Iskcon calendar. They put it by the morning. But most of the Vaishnavas started not because actually. But all three are medicine options. Whatever you started, that's the day you change from the spinach to the yoga to the non fast. The idea of my fantasy because I can never figure out what important is when I'm traveling. But everybody knows what my fantasy is. I'm usually traveling, so. But most of the Sabbaths do a karmicahysis. So that means that officially it's already. If you do for me cavity, then it's already counter. So their departure is in the sacred mantle of Dhammada. From one of the countervations. It's an excuse to have five extra dates of augments so come and they grow in Sadaka and they go all the way supporting. But so this is another significant sadness appearance today. It is in one calculation. Are there any questions? Yes. One of the devotees who was very well known for not tolerating any criticism is that one of the aspects that he was well known about not following any words. Somebody who decides to know is that. I mean, except there's a few like the Donald Dharpan that they tended to find fault with a little bit. They're concerned about giving a very high standards when they were tended in an over constructive critical. Like I'm just saying in Europe that he has always avoided criticism or devotional. You mentioned that Krishna Das Khabraj Goswami obtained his notes from Das Goswami as well as to write the Chaitanya Charita. But Vrindavan Das Takur, what notes did he work from? He works from the notes against her mother Narayani is the niece of Srivastan. So she was in the house during the whole pastime. Childhood, past, dance or words. She was helping Malini all the time cooking things like that so she. She. She to see what's a family member so she directly knew everything. So she would be telling all these past names. She's also considered one of the any other question and it was accepted by all the shelves of in some accidental form but accepts God and mercy generally it's possible but how do you verify? I mean I had people say that they got way more Irish shape than I still idolate them again, you don't know. I don't remember someday like that but. And I know that today considered maybe the whole controversies of I know this wonderful. He says he has all kinds of alleged missions and things but it's very hard to know or I mean it doesn't really appear to me that way but what's that indeed devoted There were many Acharyas present who accepted and he was given the mercy of each and every. Somebody should say in grandma's womb that they were allegedly in the shelter by Brahmapa. That's taken as an indication that they should remain in Brahmapa. Sula can't go outside or Brahma was asked and on May 27th of 1977 he said that in the future he wanted his disciples to initiate disciples and that those disciples would be his grand disciples. Disciples of his disciples. Rabba's desire was to have a spiritual success that would take weeks to remain a drawbacks of family. Of course, you know, there was like there's some miracles but I've always heard about this miracle that the first disappearance festival of Narayani Thakur. He actually came back for the morning and he sat on of the assassin and was you know, visibly there resurrected, you know, talking with all the devotees, answering their questions, giving them resting. How wonderful that would be very unexplicably inconceivably expanded. Just like sometimes Lo Shitan actually appears in some later time together. So I was anxious for such miracles to happen. The holy desires of our strength that the shares of 20 anniversary. I hear people also say they are bringing sub to take initiation to one of his disciples has always an equal importance of value. I was reading about Sri Lanka of the court considering Shiksha a little bit more important since also we know history and some of vice Navas they have more Shisha than Diksha. So can you comment please? We get help for so many Maishram who are Siksha gurus. Prabhupada said that this is the one who gives the world Siksha that becomes the Diksha guru. Whoever's like that take one as a Dikshaguru. But then after that then we have other to be the same. And also there's other Sikh Shaburs. So sometimes it may be that there's a very singular Vajra who's the Sikh Shaburu and he may pay a warning proud that roman them one's spiritual progress and then at least physically or ceremony then one all these things are there possible still. The etiquette is there for the dictionary different from the diction world but the etiquette different conversation usually benediction room. So there's some flexibility in the spiritual relationships time There's a what they call the standard kind of situation where the diksha guru is also a Sikhsha guru and he's usually made a more prominent and something it may not be like that maybe the later on becomes more prominent in the spiritual life. Sometimes different rules are different with the light more prominent. So we respect all our gurus Mother Naram Sri Guru Sri Guru and all our so be grateful to all the help we get from the rationalas and woos and be respectful to all our woos and all relational thank you for watching our videos. Be sure to subscribe to our channel. We publish new videos every day. And don't forget to like and share our channel.