20020504-05 || Vyāsa Pūjā, Initiations and Classes || Mathurādeśa & Balarāmadeśa

Multi-speaker transcript of a Krishna-consciousness lecture/discussion recorded in early May 2002 (dates announced as May 4–5, 2002). Speakers discuss devotional practices (japa/Hare Krishna chanting, trance), mercy and service to devotees (stories of Vasudev Datta and humble servants), the role and worship of the spiritual master and disciplic succession, and scriptural teachings (quotes/paraphrase from the Bhagavad-gita and Srila Prabhupada). Practical program notes appear throughout: preparations for Vyasa Puja, upcoming initiation ceremonies, and a lecture at the Gokul Temple in Bahrain. The tone is devotional-instructional with anecdotal storytelling and scriptural exposition.
Mercy.
They got credit for having done it.
Despite the blessings.
The sounding devoting praise to Krishna. Please have mercy on this.
Person.
So just to please that devotee, Krishna can deliver that person. There's one devotee of Lord Chaitani. His name is Vasudev Datta. Have you heard of him? That he saw that he had love for God.
He was in the Paramananda. But the rest of the people they were suffering.
So he felt very bad. Why should one person get or few people get all the mercy and so many suffering. Then he said, let me take everyone. Then we can focus our mind on Krishna. And the more we focus and meditate on Krishna in trance. That means trance is also having very good Japa. We chant Hare Krishna. Hare Krishna. Krishna Krishna Hare Hare. We can chant it at one time without distraction. We can go into chant our heart. Wish us more please.
Again.
So this is the gate of Mukti, Gates of liberation. On the other hand, it says about associating with materialistic people who are in this duality. Their goal in life is how to enjoy the senses. They don't have a higher purpose. It says such association is Namodwaram.
Tamo means what?
So this is the gateway. You go to their house and accept a bowl of milk. So how. How many of you would like Sutrake Goswami to come to your house for a glass of milk? When we go to a holy place, we should ask questions of the same way people. But anyway as a shortage. Now I've seen the people to provide this information. Srila Prabhupada said he wanted.
To create.
Devotees who could fulfill the need of society to get spiritual knowledge and education. Even though we may not all be able to travel.
So give me the bag. So I put everything in the back.
Today.
We are in Mathuradesh for special programs with the devotees who are preparing for a feast. We are in one farm. There will be initiation. Will give initiation after few hours. Now.
We have.
A special program after the Vyasa Puja office zone in Jay Patakasan in Mayapur.
The work is here.
We'd like also to offer their homages for the Vyasa Puja again. And things are getting prepared. After that there will be a special lecture and then we will have the initiation ceremony.
Yeah, I don't.
So many places and nobody's going to enlightenment. What about your pride?
You asked me. Don't worry, you reassure me. So having your association.
Also another thing during the past one year. But another 30% is left over. So I wish to complete it. By this.
And.
Now Premier Gunna Jagotep Tripadvi Masadi Bhakti Visha Namadar Sangnalam Da Shei self.
Save you.
For everyone of us to preach and help me a lot by teaching. I'm now trying to follow what I'm teaching to others. This way I am also growing apart from helping and serving others and my service to you by the mercy of.
Today. And then.
We fell down.
You have come to 7th Road or not?
Thank you.
By his divine grace. Here it explains.
We need to hear the glories of.
The Lord from the spiritual master who is a pure devotee of the Lord as well as from the pure devotees.
Not only.
We should hear about Krishna, we should hear about the devotees of Krishna. So in your grants of Puja offerings, you are glorifying this humble servant and remembering that word to worship the guru and the representative of the entire discipline succession. So here you have observed this by representing the guru. Respecting the guru as a representative of the disciples succession and the whole discipline. Succession is worship. The guru is always himself in a mood of humble devotee of Lord Shohang. Guru is considered by Shastra.
As an.
External manifestation of post office box. The post office box is that.
Like.
That a bonus side rule by serving.
Him or by remembering.
A spiritual master Properly explained should motivated soul.
There are two kinds of vibrated souls.
Also Master.
Who's the brave by serving his spiritual master. Serving the liberated spiritual spiritual master by serving him. This is our system.
Servants.
From the external guru ask a question in a submissive way. In this way, by interacting with our spiritual master, we get all our doubts eradicated. Then we become free from doubt. Then we become a right hand cheerleading this rightening process. Depending on how sincerely we try to take home, it's up to the individual.
So.
A process of lightning is going on. Eventually one becomes fully satisfied. We can satisfy Krishna. Then we also become.
Let's end here.
Bishop was so pleased with the dura that he put his lotus feet on the lamp of the dura. Because the dura was very meek and gentle. He's much older than Krishna and as his devotee. So therefore as his very weak and humble Krishna purest feet and desires life. You think, how blessed.
How many of you would like to.
Have Krishna's daughter's feet on your lap to give massage to Krishna's Lord.
You can't imagine how much mercy.
Was serving very humbly.
Sometimes.
She'S riot are invited Fisher, come and eat at my house. But he wanted to eat his devotees offering. So when he was here offering in house. Afterwards he would sit and relax. Then he put his feet at Negora's.
Lap and.
Saj at that time G and his body the tears were as.
Well in his eyes.
So he was very happy at that service. He was happy to narrate the glories of Krishna. The glories of Krishna and his hands also standing on him. So these topics about Krishna are fully met up.
More.
Talking about politicians, talking about sports, people talking about here devotees. They like to talk about Krishna and Krishna's devotees because they say they are really truly merciful. Krishna likes to talk about his devotion honored by the Swat offering before all the Brahmanas and how he ignited the firewood for the sacrifice simply by mantra, by breathing and all the Ramana as how he was reaching white to boy with his. This is the past time of the Lord and his devotee. Teaching is the essence, Purity is the word. When I heard you when you're speaking today, it seemed like you were saying devotional service is the means. Devotional service is the means. Surrender is the way. Humility is the protection. Sam.
By.
This ceremony is.
Japan Karangay Mera Shisha Hoga Parapara asai Angame Hoga. Also I take in Guru.
Ram. Ram Sam. It's Sam. It's.
A very influential and learned scholar in Banaras at that time derided Lord Chaitanya for being a sentimentalist. Sometimes philosophers criticize the devotee because they.
Think that Hare Krishna. We are tonight in Bahrain in Gokul Temple where.
Will deliver a lecture in few minutes. Today is 4th of May 2002.
Ram Sam. Ram. Ram. Ram. Ram Sam. I'm Ram.
One who knows what is body and what is soul does not lament for any stage of the body, neither in the living nor in the dead condition. As explained in later chapters, it will be clear that knowledge means to know matter and spirit. And the controller of both. Arjuna argued that religious principles should be given more importance than politics or sociology. But he did not know that knowledge of matters soul and the supreme is even more important than religious formularies. And because he was lacking in that knowledge, he should not have posed himself as a very learned man, as he did not happen to be a very learned man. He was consequently lamenting for something which was unworthy of having the body is born and is destined to be vanquished today or tomorrow. Therefore, the body is not as important as the soul. One who knows this is actually learned, and for him there is no cause for lamentation regardless of the condition of the material bodies. Thus thus ends the Bhaktivedanta Swami translation purport to the Bhagavad Gita as it is. Second chapter, eleventh verse. In the matter of contents of the Gita summarized.
Giving.
This knowledge. Do you remember? But the Atma when does the Atma die? Never never never does never die. Give her a hand.
She.
Atma never dies. Only the body dies. Not Hanya Tehanya Manis Any day body is dying. Actually our body is dying. Every minute, every second something is dying in the body. When we're young, it's also growing. The process of creation and destruction is going on. As we get older then just destruction and not much more creation.
Decline.
So this process of changing in the body is continually going on. So nothing to lament about. Sarajuna was giving all these big arguments. But he missed a real point. The highest principle in religion is Samsaring Haritoshanam to please the Supreme Lord. He also didn't consider what was pleasing to Krishna. Many areas that Arjuna had overlooked in his grief said that this situation happened to Arjuna that he was put in the Maha Maya by Krishna in order to allow Bhagavad giving have to be spoken. Otherwise Arjuna do these things.
But.
He was made to forget in order to have the Bhagavad Gita spoken. Sometimes Krishna has his devotee made an example in order to teach others. Parikshit Maharaj also had the Va and what time spoken to him he was made an example Pramananda Pramu. He tells about something that happened in 1960s, maybe 6 or 67 in New York temple. That time everyone was very new. They don't know what is etiquette. So when Srila Prabhupada walked into the back of the temple and entrances in the back and deities are in the front. Then everyone faced the Prabhupada and offered him their obeisances. So they are pointing their feet to the deity. So there are so many people there. The Prabhupada had a walking stick. He reached over someone.
He hit.
On the rear end Ramananda Prabhu and said why you are facing your feet to the needy? His natural ego reaction was why? To facilitate the devotees to get the spiritual understanding. All these principles are very simple. But the simple things we miss. Just like sometimes people ask us.
What.
Are you doing to stop the wars in the world? So many wars are being caused by religion. So what are you doing to stop it? But actually this Ka conscious philosophy.
Where.
The Bhagavad Gita's philosophy that we are not this body if we truly understand it and the people around the world understood it, that this type of sectarian violences and sectarian wars shouldn't be there at all.
Today, May 5, 2002, his holiday pataka Swami Guru Maharaj is giving a lecture to a small group of devotees in Goful Temple, Bahrain.
Balaram Deshaun SH.
Asked.
Mahindraya, my dear Ravana, why did the Pachitas meet Lord Shiva on the way? Please tell me how the meeting happened, How Lord she will be became very pleased with them and how he instructed them. Certainly such thoughts are important and I wish that you please be merciful upon me and describe them. The great Sage Vidura continues O Master the Brahmanas, it is very difficult for living entities and caves within this material body to have personal contact with Lord Shiva. Even great sages who have no material attachments do not contract him despite their always being absorbed in meditation to attain his personal contact. Lord Shiva the most powerful Deva second only to Lord Vishnu, his self sufficient. Although he has nothing to aspire for in the material world for the benefit of those in the material world, he is always richly engaged in every accompanied.
By his dangerous energies.
Like Goddess Kali and Goddess Durga. Lord Shiva is known as the greatest devotee of the supreme personality of God.
Here he is known as the best.
Of all types of Vaishnava Vai Nam Vta Sambhu. Consequently Lord Shiva as the Vaishnava Sampradaya the discipline succession known as the Rudra Sampradaya. Just as there is the Brahma Sampradaya coming directly from Lord Brahma, the Rudra Sampradaya comes directly from Lord Sila. Lord Shiva is one of the 12 great personalities. 6, 3, 20. These are the 12 and preaching God consciousness. The name Sambhu means Lord Shiva. His disciples succession is also known as the Vishnu Swami Sampradaya and the current Vishnu Swami Sampradaya is also known as Pravalabha Sampradaya. The current Brahma Sampradaya is known as the Madhva Gauria Sampradaya. Even though Lord Shiva appeared to preach Mayavad philosophy at the end of his pastime in the form of Sankar Aksharya, he preached the Vaishnava philosophy. He starts worshipping Lord Krishna Govinda three times in his verse and especially warned his followers that they should not they could not possibly achieve deliverance of Mukti simply by word jugglery and grammatical puzzles. One actually is serious. To attain Mukti, he must worship Lord Ka. This is Sripada Sankaracharya's last instruction. Herein it is mentioned that Lord Siva is always accompanied by the chill energy. Psych.
Yeah.
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