20020530 || Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 7.5.56 - 57 || Malaysia #JayapatakaSwamiArchives

Vedas given by Bhagavad Gita by Krishna himself actually whatever Krishna says should be given more precedence There may be so many versions, different people saying different things in the Vedas but then Krishna himself speaks Bhagavad Gita when the Lord is giving his own version then we should take that more seriously Whenever the Lord is speaking that's the highest authority so Brahma reveals what the Lord told him directly that his Vishnu Maya is coming to hear him Malaysia we have so many temples to Raman but people they don't realize that this mother, this energy, this energy of Vishnu she is Vishnu Maya in the little where she was deprived from the Mahaprasad of Jagannath of Narayan Because Naray Muni gave to Shiva and Lord Shiva ate it but he didn't save any for Parvati she asked why you didn't save for me? Because I'm your faithful wife I want to help this person I am serving you all the time very faithfully and then Lord Shiva said well I don't think you are qualified so she became very upset that how is it you don't think I am qualified? I am Vishnu Maya I am the potency of Vishnu I am Vaishnavi.

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Am energy of Vishnu I am Narayani energy of Narayana so when I am the energy of the Lord I am his most confidential servitor serving him as his energy carrying out his every wish Every wish. But how is it that everyone gets Prasanna but me? She was so very upset so she declared very clearly that she is the energy of the Lord There are famous temples in India to Ama Vaishnavi Devi but generally the worshippers they are not thinking about this relationship with her and.

Vishnu.

So they contactfully preach to people who are very much devoted to Vishnu Maya in her form as Mahamaya.

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You can show how much we also respect she's the most devout servitor of the Lord she does whatever the Lord wants in different forms she's doing different things she is providing all the material facilities that people want but keeping them enamored by this material world that's one of her functions Another function is if we want to be connected to Krishna again as his devotee be under his shelter to serve him because he realized we're his part and parcel and she can also facilitate us the same potency can work to liberate us Prabhupada used the example here like electricity you can use it for air conditioner freezer, you can use it for a Heater.

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Can warm yourself up or you can cool yourself down. Same electricity. So if we have the technology to use electricity in different ways like that, what to speak of Krishna? So he can use his energy to liberate us or to keep us in illusion. So Kamsa was against Krishna. So then Mahamaya is there to keep him. But he's satisfied in his illusion. There are some people that really don't want to stand in Krishna. So then they are given so many ideas. Some people are even very offensive and they misunderstand Krishna's position. Krishna had 16,108 wives. So that we can also enjoy with.

Many women as Krishna has done it.

Some offensive things like this. Sometimes mental speculators say they don't. Shiva can drink the ocean of poison, but if we drink one drop, we are dead. We can't compare ourselves with Krishna or Shiva or Balaram. Krishna is Atma Ram. He is always satisfied. But his devotees want to serve him in different ways. So Yoga Maya facilitates that they can serve him. So we want to know about Krishna. We have to hear from Krishna's devotees. Otherwise mental speculators will put their own spin on it and be very offensive. Trying to equate Krishna as some kind of conditioned soul who is out to enjoy. Krishna is always satisfied. He is letting his devotees serve him. He is enjoying their servants. He doesn't need to enjoy serving. There's no material senses to enjoy. Material sense grant that's not at all. Either the devotee or the Lord are not on that platform. They're enjoying the transcendental exchange of love between the Lord and himself. So as we're serving Krishna, sometimes by Krishna's mercy, we get a little taste of that love. The sweetness of Ka. How wonderful Ka is. How wonderful his devotees are. How wonderful the service to Him Is that so the ecstasy that is incomparable in this material world. There's nothing in this material world that even has anything vaguely to compare with the happiness you get when you're serving Ka. Of course, when someone is just starting out in their devotional service, they may not get this experience right away that some special mercy. Maybe you can get it. Some people say I'm chanting my Japa one round every day, but I'm not feeling any ecstasy. I've been chanting for two weeks already. No tears are coming, no hairs are standing on it. Of course, some days I miss my round. But someone is chanting 16 rounds a day. That doesn't mean immediately you're going to start crying and ecstasy. But there's more hope for that. The idea is we should fully absorb ourselves in devotional service. And we gradually go up, step by step. Eight steps. Like a ladder, like a stairway case Ado Shraddha. Then Sadhusanga, Bhajana, Kriya, Anarta, Nirriti, Nishta, Ruchi, Ashakti, Bhava. We get up to the level of Bhava, the eighth level. That's when we get steady ecstasy. Sometimes there's a glimpse by Lord Chittan, his mercy of spiritual ecstasy which comes and goes. That can give us a preview. The movies they show, preview two minutes. Entice you that you should go and see the movie, right? Sometimes they're showing on tv. In the future there's going to be some special program or movies. They'll give you a two minute clip. So go and see it. Some action shots. So Krishna mercy gives us sometimes a sneak preview. Just suddenly, by Krishna's mercy, by Guru's mercy, by Vaishnava's mercy, we get showered with some spiritual ecstasy. Something which is not like anything in this material world. Something from the higher grace of light. We might not deserve it. It means if we deserve it, we'd have it all the time. But we're getting a sneak preview. Just a little glimpse. So that we'll be inspiring to go forward. So Lord Chaitanya and his kirtan movement through the kirtans, through the festival. Sometimes devotees are getting these tastes. It's not an illusion. It's an actual real spiritual experience. Sometimes in a dream one gets visions. It can also experience ecstasy even in a dream. So when these things happen, it's taken as a special blessing. Become more serious. So that we can be in that gaia. Spiritual ecstasy. Always turn off your stomach. So that prophet said that God Chitanda gives us ecstasy first. Because we are very restless. It's like in a big feast. There will be so many preparations. The bitter melon, the spinach, the sabjis, the different rices. Sorry. The daiwaras and the rasams were somewhere already was there. Then you finally and you have your. So then the people have the sweet at the end Usually of course, Gujaratis I think. In the beginning. So then you have the sweet at the end. So children, they like to have sweet, right? In the beginning too. They may not be so patient. Like to have the payasam or the ladu in the beginning. They like sweets too much. When I was in Tilak Intin many years ago, there was a Garuda Purana there. In the house of the Father of Adi Purushta. They just opened it up and said, if you want to please Brahmana, give him something good to eat. You want to please Akshatriya, give him some power. You want to please Vaishya, give him money. You want to please the sutra, give him some fame and praise. You want to please children, give them sweets. Since I've heard I was great, Prabhupada used to always give sweets and cookies to their children. You know this secret. So this way we get the children. They like to eat the sweets first. So Lord Prabhupada compared it like that. Normally in other Yugas you have to do all the tapasyas and austerities, penances. At end of the road you finally get samadhi and you get the ecstasy. You get the realization. Now people hardly have that patience and determination. So even by very quick, very short period of chanting, Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna, Krishna, Hare, Hare, Hare, Ram, Hari, Ram, Ram, Ram, Hari, Hari. One can get this taste, this some ecstasy. So then after getting a taste, then okay, then have the patience to go through the rest of the meal. Then we do the austerity because we want to keep that taste. To maintain that you're not practicing. Then you just get it, it goes away. So you have to practice very strictly. Then you can develop and have it as a sty bab, as a permanent experience, permanent consciousness. So this is facilitated by Yogamaya to make us more and more Ka conscious. When somebody wants to be always in the rasa of enjoying their senses.

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Maha Maya is there. Somebody wants to forget. But even a devotee wants to forget Kaja. It's very hard. Even Mahamaya helps. But they always remember I had that ecstasy. And there's nothing in this material world is like that. You meet so many devotees who are fallen from the path. But they're always feeling some separation from Ka consciousness. They don't feel happy. They want to come back. Many come back eventually 1. Mostly they come back. Virtual world is like a desert, a few oases. So you can't get much happiness swimming in the desert. Once you experience what is the water, then desert is desert. But if you don't know any better than you think, it's great. It's all these beautiful oasis, the people riding in the desert. When they get to the oasis and they have the nice date trees and the cool water, they have the tent and they can burn their frankincense. They take the Arabian coffee made from cardamom seeds and things. They made me Very happy. But if you live in Malaysia and all the time you're seeing green everywhere. Rambutan, mango and mangosteen, durian. So many different fruits are there. Then you cannot be happy in the desert with only a few deeds. So people, they're thinking they're happy in the material. Because they don't know how much spiritual happiness there is. What Chaitanya is giving us, that experience, what we are missing. No one else can have that mercy. We're told they came. Everyone's told that there's Paramananda. But hardly they get to experience it. Until they really convince themselves and done. But Lord Chaitanya is giving immediate. Just like you go in the supermarket, some ladies are sitting there eating samples of cheese or biscuit or something. You try it. This is the Kali Yuga. They want you to try it. Then you buy, try and buy it. So Lord Chaitanya is telling you try it. Other sampradayas, they first give a diksha, then you practice. Even Gaudiya Maat was saying, you know Nizkan, you are giving the practice beads. You are first giving them initiation. Someone will say, hurry now. Then they can chant. But our system, I don't know whether that's. We know from the Shastra that you don't have to be formally initiated to get the benefit of chanting. Some benefit you get. But if you initiate it, then that becomes permanent. Once you are striving for initiation, become fixed up. So we give people first experience. And if you like it, then you commit yourself. They said that's very special. Most people do religion out of fear that God I should do something for God. If I don't, I'm going to get punished for all my sins. So mostly they are doing it because of fear or because of some desire. Material desire. Worship God and get some material blessing. Very rare to find somebody doing it because they want to please the Lord. Or even because you find that when you please the Lord and He's happy, you'll be even more happy than any other way. So that's better to please the Lord. It's God will be happier anyway. And it's more natural. So when the Lord comes, His spiritual potency is also coming. One is the covering potency and the other is the awakening potency. So the Lord is more inclined. Of course, for Yogamaya, even when we see Mahamaya, we can remember that she is just another form of Yoga Maya. We can address her in her Yogamaya aspect. The same potency, different aspects. Just like Kamaksha, we were In Guwahati with the safari this year, anybody was with us. I'm not safari just akin out. And what did she does? What did she does? Was anyone else representing Malaysia? Huh? Yeah. Okay, sit down with it. So then when the daughter of Naraka soar came to attack Krishna, then Kamakya told her, you touch Krishna's feet, he's going to be your father in law, your uncle in law. So marry his nephew. Because she was submissive to baby. So she went and touched Krishna's feet. Didn't stop to attack him. So that way she was working as one Mukha. She increased the devotion of her to Krishna. She awakened, she let him touch the feet of Krishna. She can do both. She can do either one. For Narakasur he wanted to always enjoying the material nature. So she kept him always inspired to do these material things. Been getting some blessing from Maha Maya. To have more material facility is also kind of an encumbrance. We don't use it for Ka. If we use it for sense gratification, we're just going to be more and more entangled in the karmas with bigger loads. If devotees get material things, they shouldn't forget Ka. They should use all those things for ka. And a South American disciple, he got inheritance. So he got so many tens of thousands of US dollars that he thought, I joined Krishna conscious movement because I was suffering. Now I have so much money, no need to suffer anymore, I will enjoy life. So he gave up his practice and he spent his money and was enjoying knowledge devotees and what a stupid guy. Then he spent all his money. Then he was suffering like anything. People criticizing why you had so much money. You could have invested it. You could have lived along your whole life without any big hassle. Why you just blew it all of a sudden on your sense gratification. Then he came back and begging the devotees, please take me back. Now I am suffering again. Some people are like that. They don't learn if somebody gets like Gunpur Sudhama. He got some big money from Krishna, big donation palace and all facilities. But he used it for Krishna. He didn't use it just okay. Someone wins the lottery when they want to completely go mad partying and spending. It's like that thing that sometimes Krishna just gives someone a big blessing. But usually he doesn't. Because if people aren't ready for it, they may have misused it and gotten in big trouble. But sometimes maybe by karma, it's like a test. Also if we get this facilities of material opulence, then we should Also use it for Ka. We should be balanced. Always use Lion's share for KA's direct service. And be balanced in our living. That we always maintain our spiritual practices. In this way, we'll be protected from seeing things from the Mahavaya perspective. We'll see things always from the Krishna consciousness. That's why if somebody is Ka conscious, they don't fall into Maya. They know better. This is a trap of Maya. You know someone Bihasta. They know they have to go on with their devotional service. Worship their deities, their Taos, do their devotional activities. Gopal Bhakta, Goswami. He described that Vigri Hasta means responsible Ashram. So many responsibilities. And the first responsibility is to be Ka conscious. When somebody is in the Brahmacharya ashram, there are so many support. They can live in a simple way. In Chopatti, to be a Brahmachari, you have to be on a waiting list for two years, one and a half years. Then you have to agree that whoever is the Brahmachari, they have to do whatever they are told. If once they say, no, I don't want to do it, evolve. You have to be fully servant. He had to live, sleep on the floor, no beds. Rana Natsomi gave one article for Mayapur Magazine, one of the recent magazines. Then every day they study for one and a half hours. So that they already learn it in that scripture. They treat all the Bihastas like their parents. When we have to see they are maintaining these very austere sadhaks. So the congregation maintains that temple. And they are happy that we can maintain some renounced people who are doing this. Because that is also good for their spiritual life. To maintain some devotees who are just always preaching and studying and serving deities and doing spiritual activities. So then he says, between their Brahmacharis and Vihastas, there's a very deep respect. Brahmacharis are appreciative that Vihastas are maintaining their temple. Therefore facilitating them to be able to preach and practice their Ka consciousness. And how Grihastas are also they want to get some association from someone a little more renounced. Who's not having to deal always with this material complications. Sometimes you might get entangled or contaminated. So they have some association with someone who's more renounced and detached. Free from all these kind of potential encumbrances. To give someone who can come and give a good class. Who can give some good association. So that's the kind of environment they're trying to create between Their Brahmachari and Grihasta ashram, so that there's an integrated community. But each is having their own role because the Quaid is working for them very well. So Grihastas that they have to take as someone become Grihasta. That means they take so much responsibility materially and spiritually, both. That's how they become Krishna conscious, by being very responsive to be an anxiety for Ka, how to do all the material and spiritual things. Both do even the material things in a spiritualized way. The Brahmacharis, they have to see how to help, how to enthuse everyone to be Ka conscious. They don't have all these heavy anxieties on their brains. So they can be happy and encourage everyone how happy it is to be Ka conscious. Those Brihasas, of course, who are expert in doing everything for Ka, they'll also be happy, but a little bit imbalanced and they'll feel the pressure. So they want someone very happy. Association is always welcome, very Ka conscious. Prabhupada said, all the devotees, whatever their ashram may be, all the devotees should be so pure that simply by serving them and by associating with them, someone will get spiritual benefit. That's what intention is. Especially those who live in a temple, community, temple itself, working. They have to try to be at that standard so that by their association people get purified. That means we have to be pure to give others pure association. But also anyone else, even if they're not living in the temple, they can also achieve that same purity. Vayukta vairatya. So the more people we have living a pure standard of Ka consciousness, the more that society will be influenced and the world will be a better place to live in. So we want to transfer people. We're basically transferring people from Mahamaya account to Yoga Maya account. You meet somebody, you say, okay, this one's a Mahamaya account, totally identifying with the body. Now how to transfer over to Yoga Maya account with identifying with the soul and with serving Krishna so that they, instead of now they are trying to be happy only through their senses. How they can get happiness through their spiritual senses to their spiritual. Of course, while we are in the material world, the material senses will be there also. That no longer becomes the only means for happiness. It is there sometimes happy, sometimes suffering.

Both of them sometimes.

So gradually we become more and more detached from that as a basis for happiness. And we become situated, fixed up in our spiritual shelter for our actual happiness. So when we're spiritually happy, There may be some also material happiness. That's very easy. No problem. Or sometimes there's material suffering. Then that forces us to take more shelter Krishna because material nature is giving us more shelter. So sometimes the material suffering is also helping us to take shelter of Krishna. More so I think we have so many serious devotees here in Malaysia. I'm always happy to come and get your association. Just in Mayanpur from Nsinga Chhatra Dasi. It was very beautiful. So many nice photos also. Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be here late enough to show. But next visit very. But I. Oh, did you. Where's my oil? We got a new batch of machine oil. This time we used eight different Vedic pure essential oils which are called Ashta Gandha. Especially what's mentioned. They make a special kind of incense for the Devis. We bought those essential oils and paid nursing it with it. One of the oils cost 4 lakhs of rupees a kilo. Another one is 1 lakh rupees kilo 50. They're already expensive. But it's very strong when they quite concentrated. So then I was told I want to get only the pure oil. So there's 4 lakhs a rupee a kilo and 10 grams. So bathing the Lord with this oils and then with the full Abhishek this year. Last year they threw all the flowers same time. It wasn't nice. I didn't like it so much. I mean it was still nice but I didn't like it so much. This year they had varieties. They had white lotus petal, pink lotus petal, red, red rose petals, orange. You know that marigolds petals white, Rajnikanda, white jasmine. The different colors. I said the one color. Then I orchids. First you did white or one kind of white. Then we did that orange, then the red. So it's like layers are coming down like swirl ice cream or something over the Lord. One layer after another of flowers. Then again one more white layer. Different kind of white. So at the very end, after all the wet things, then there was baskets and baskets of flowers. The Lord Prahlad was up to his neck in flowers different. And then you can see different colors after another. So that was awesome. Everyone said that was very nice. One color at a time. You did that push Babishek at the end something.

Here.

Then you can have a push publisher. It started best for two years.

Down to two years.

And my. So it's very nice to offer these different multicolored flowers at the end. After all the Dry baskets, big baskets of flowers Just like you read in how the Devas are throwing the flowers from the heavens so it's like the flowers are showering down and then creating a coating with another color with so then Narasingadeva will be colored with red flower petals Then he is covered with white so very beautiful. Then yesterday last two days after from Purnima then had the Salila the Salila, Bihar, the Sarada and Krishna come down into a little they can make one of those swimming pools they made with a lot of like lotus design and then there's a flower canopy all flower, you know like flower like for house flower house full body so the Lord goes inside there and then they offer and then there's a little fountain in front he's in the middle of this little swimming pool only about less than maybe 2 and a half meters by the soul then they offer 108 lotuses for each of the 108 names of.

Radha and Krishna.

Those lotuses are floating so by the end of the all the whole pond is filled with these lotus flowers floating around ready, very blessed so everyone comes up and offers one lotus of one name and it's 108 people can offer they left me out for six just it was really beautiful too so there the devotees in my airport all these festivals around the deities unite everyone trying to unite and create a community Difficulty we have 400 Ramachandis and 400 Mihastas and 200 kids the future will have maybe 10,000 grihastas I don't know but we will have more Grihastas probably than Brahmacharis for sure now still a lot of Brahmacharis but how to unite? This is completely different lifestyle, different but these festivals for the deities they unite everybody and also this sometimes the dramas and cultural events trying to create a unity and diversity Sudai is very happy to be there for all these spiritual festivals and on Purnim also they covered Madhava in the sandalwood now it's Chanda and Yatra in India so Jagannath, Baladev and Subhadra in Calcutta also they're completely covered with sandalwood you just see this Maya and the ice Everything else is sandal so all the devotees they have to come and do sandal grinding to the day they have non stop people every come in and grind for 20 minutes so they get a bucket of sandalwood paste, get one bucket.

Then he.

Put all that deity is a little bigger than Arjun quite twice as big maybe not so much bigger but twice as big or maybe 2/3 times bigger. And the little Devi suffer. Ranavaram they have covered for 21 days. Jagannath Puri 21 days. Jagannath is covered with sandalwood. Radha Mahara is very hard. Manav is very big. So they just do for seven days. And then one day at Purnima. Here you don't do the Chandan.

Huh?

Nobody sees that, but it's completely like a mass. Any question? Does anyone have a question? Eclipse.

It.

I think sometimes I'm not sure what they do in Mayampur. I think for sure they close the door of the temple. But sometimes I heard that they closed the bilis. And sometimes I heard that they always just chant the Devis. But the bilis they open.

So.

Chakra Chirani Mahaskambu. I know that during the time of eclipse, if you eat anything, it's not good the time it's not good to either eat anything or even to evacuate. So try it beforehand. Clear your system and drink whatever water you want. Because during that time of the eclipse it's better not to eat or drink or pass. Because that time is not ashamed bad influences character. So that time we just chann Hare ka breathe, have a concentrated spiritual. So whatever influence is going on, it doesn't affect us. Once I was in Lithuania and Kaunas for a solar eclipse. A few years ago there was solar. So three hours I gave a non stop Japa workshop. We were all together at temple. We had Japa workshop during the whole eclipse. Kirtan and japa workshop. It was very heavy. Who wants the shingoil? The latest batch that it water. This building was the old design based.

On the screen from 0% up to 100%. It actually requires an approval after building, after building.

See, it'll take a few months. It.

Sam.

Let'S go to. But it's within the else we can use the floor.

Fully partition it yet. But we can decide how to partition.

All this.

Will have a high.

Ceiling. Yes, this is what above the main.

Like festivals and Sunday feast feeding, taking Prashada. They all done outside of the lawn again. So Sa Sam.

Sa.

Satan Sam Sa Dakota. My dear King Erise here All the children were very much affectionate and respectful to Prahlad Maharaj. And because of their tender age they were not so polluted by the instructions and actions of their teachers who were attached to condemn duality and bodily comfort. Thus the boys surrounded Prahlaya Maharaj, giving up their plaything and sat down to hear him. Their hearts and eyes being fixed upon him. They looked at him with great earnestness. Prahi Maharaj, although born in a demon family, was an exalted devotee and he desired their welfare. Thus he began instructing them about the futility of materialistic life. This seventh canto fifth chapter 56 and 57 verse, the words Bala Adushita Biya indicate that the children, being of a tender age, were not as polluted by a materialistic life as their fathers. Therefore, taking advantage of the innocence of his classmates, began teaching them about the importance of spiritual life and the insignificance of materialistic life. Although the teachers Chanda and Avartha were instructing all the boys in the materialistic life of religion, economic development and Sanskrit education, the boys were not much convoluted. Therefore, with great attention I wanted to hear from Bahla Maharaj about Ka Consciousness. In our Ka Consciousness movement, the Gurukula plays an extremely important part in our activities because right from childhood the boys of the Gurukula are strengthened above Ka Consciousness. Thus they become steady within the core of their hearts and there is very little possibility that they will be conquered by the modes of the nature when they are older. Thus in the Bhakti Dante reports of the seventh Canto charity of the Srimad Bhagavadam entitled Balad Maharaj the sacred.

So how great the body are.

It's all great. Amazing how the great devotees sometimes come into this universe. Today is a visa prayer Ramanda Rai he was a disciple in Krishna Villa, the second gopher. At the same time he came down into the material world and he was born in a Sudra family. First he was highly qualified materially he became the governor of a province and.

The empire of.

Varna. But because of his good qualities that kinda recognized he was highly qualified for cisamented governor. Then he met Sargomba chariot when he traveled to South India.

That he should meet him because he.

Was the governor in more than 100 Pradesh recently government.

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