20021018 || Class at Los Angeles, USA and Chile #JayapatakaSwamiArchives

Recorded class by Jaya Pataka Swami (video titled with date Oct 18, 2002) focused on biographical and hagiographical material connected to Gaudiya Vaishnava figures. The speaker discusses Raghunatha (Raghunath Bhakti) Goswami’s wealthy family background (large tax/estate), his turn to Lord Chaitanya, instructions to practice vraja-vairagya while remaining with family, and his eventual acceptance by senior associates (Nityananda, Suraṭnāmā and the six Goswamis). The talk also describes the Chiradahi/Upanihati festival (noting large offerings and diaspora observances), evaluates textual sources (Krishna-Dasa Kaviraja and Chaitanya-charitamrita for chronology and philosophy), and includes attendee questions on guru succession, visions, and lineage practices.
Questions this video answers
1,200,000 gold coins (annual tax rate mentioned).
21 different flavors and about 540 pots offered.
For the 11th, the 9th, the 9th after the ashram. Not confused. But anyway. He's one of the principal associates of Rama Rani. But he took the role as a guru and as a Acharya. But he was actually more senior in the spiritual world than Sanatana Goswami. But Sanatan Goswami, the Leela took a birth that's his older brother. So he would offer respect to Sanatana. So like that what we were in the spiritual world, one is in the spiritual. And while they are here, it doesn't necessarily have any correlation. So today it's Ramanathas Goswami's disappearance of Raghunathak Goswami surviving that Vasco swami he was. I didn't look up this thing. I hope someone can see Chaitan Sharika. I'm sure he's one of the mandarins. I don't know which one on hand. I have my dictionary in my airport and I just look it up before the class and remind myself I don't have it online. Super account. But he was born in the family of very wealthy landlords. The Govardang and Hiraziyas Mazumdars. Their annual tax rate was 1,200,000 gold coins. That's what they were paying taxes and they were getting also something like.
One.
Half of that more is what they were earning. So they were positive. They cheated on the income tax. So they got a little extra. They were very wealthy families. A million gold coins. Now going rate for an ounce of gold. Something like $310 I think. So you can calculate that was like maybe 3,400 million dollars those days when you could buy kilos of rice for little shells. And so when the helm I'll reach they were calculation. So he was the heir to their throne to their lordship. He was the Siam.
To me.
In those days it was a feudal system. So they were considered like lords. They had their own armies. They had their own. They were directly related to the emperor at that time to the kings. Just below level of a king. But in spite of that he was not having a very beautiful wife. And he was very attracted to joining Chaitanya Mahapalus and great movement. He kept running away and he came to Lord Chaitanya. And Lord Chaitanya advised him that he should go back to his family and practice Ka consciousness Raymut of Voairaga. Not to be a market of Vairagya. And I would just that he should just like the wife had a lover other than the husband. She would be very careful at least Traditional families to not be discovered by the husband. So she would be very careful in her dealings with the husband. So like that what she tells you to keep your heart with Krishna but do your material activities like that really carefully. No one even will know that there's so much in love with Ka. You do it for Krishna. So Lord she tend to give.
Instruction.
How to practice deliver on the 11th fast. Practice that very carefully. The one here got arrested in the course because his parents were discovered were cheating on their income tax and they escaped. So they arrested the son. Then he convinced the tax collector Chaudhary by embracing him as being just like his uncle and being a very religious person. How his parents didn't deal with him properly and they should be giving him some money. Such a seemingly religious Muhammadan, things like that. So somehow he got also very emotional and started to cry and say yes, I think you're just like my son and released him. And then he worked hard a whole deal to get them out of the income tax problem. Imagine doing all that. He said no, like wasting my time. I really want to be with what you tell me. I follow what he said, but I still want to be with him. But then he got an idea to go and make another. Gave him the famous punishment. Said he was staying away from me like a thief. So now I'm Upanishil. And that was the Dhamda Mahotsav or the famous Chiradahi festival Plant rice and yogurt festival with tropical fruits varieties and fruits which we observe over here in Panihati in North America in a big way. This year we had 21 different flavors. Not only chair but Cheraday also Pegas now came over and the penis from imperite and about 540 pots offered before the meeting goes out the whole altar. If you ever have time to come over, you welcome. It's like you're trying to come to the rapture here in Los Angeles. If you're able to come for the Upanihati festival, remember in detail the pastimes of Raghunagras, Goswami and that festival as well as Prabhupada's pastimes in North America. We have a Prabhupada Levas point many other festivities commemorating that festival. So this rugged Mah baths have got a special mercy where you could feed Lord Shmitinanda and all his associates. And Lord Chaitanya also came and took the pasada. That was really God telling the use of his money. A very good spiritual use. After that he Made Mitinanda for the blessing that I had not been able to get to Lord Chaitanya. I would say it's by now friends that I did go through you. We can't get to Lord Chaitanya without going through Lord Dityananda. So he got the mercy of Nithyananda. And then Nithyananda very soon be able to join Lord Chittanya. Then he got to see Lord Chaitanya Chandragarn Puri. Finally he was accepted and he was put under the care of Surat Namadar. She became the assistant secretary of Lord Chaitanya. So he had I got so much of the direct first hand. As well as from Shrutanama. There are other secondhand information about Shaitanya Mahaprabhu's later pastimes. So later, when Ravindra Das Goswami went to Vrindavan. He shared all of these pastimes. As well as Upper Goswami also shared his pastimes with Krishnadas Naviraj and Krishna does heavy Raj. And that's why I read the chapter. He says Rupa Kragunanda Jarhas. So he mentions Ruben Rabban. It's Ruben and Daska Swami. The sources of most of his information about which attorneys latter diaspora times. Which he wrote down as Chaitanya. That's also his other supreme station. Stayed there with the other six Swamis. And at that place Krishna Rajraj got his association. Krishna Das Kaviraj was respect to a Ramana family. And I lived in a place north of Katwa in the district of Berdwan. Near the Azai river and the Manchester River. That place through the Jet lake. And another name of the place. In that place there's a temple to Radha Madan Muhammad and to different deities. There's also the footprints of war. Nityananda, the brother of Krishnadas Kamilaj had offended Venikatarangas. And this hurt Krishna Kamra so much. He decided to leave that place. And he chastised his brother. That night because of his defending the devotees of the Tinagara. Tuna appeared and gave him initiation in his dreams in a vision. And told him to go to Prim. The Krishna Das Kagar's life.
Left the.
Place and went to Vrindavan. Got shelter of the six Goswamis. So he says that he has taken a Chandra Vikra his diction gurus who are within. And he has six Sikh Chandrus which are the six Goswamis amongst whom ruled by Raghu Nagar.
Especially.
All the Sixes and six Shadows. So he was very well sheltered. Sometimes this idea that you don't take a Sikh Chaguru unless there's some problem with your nick Suguru is not the norm in the Vaishnav community society. The normal is that you have the Shaguri Shanguru is also depending on who's helping you in your spiritual life, who you respect at that level that your spiritual master approves of. So then because he was so much raining with the Sisual Swami so he accepted all of them as. But obviously he had no problem at all in this faith without born in China, but conceivable or possible Srivadanya was very old, he loved labor and he wrote the Chittenden nature in Rahita. And that's considered like the jewel of Chaitanya Mahapram literature. Because it is simultaneously reliable or authoritative in Leela in chronology and philosophy. Some of the books give the Leela's okay, but the chronology is not exactly right. To get some things a little bit out of order or the philosophy might be a little weak. The Chaitanya Mongol hardly has any philosophy and Leela sorry, but chronology may be not 100% accurate. So whatever Chaitanya is considered the most accurate for chronology for the accuracy of the Leelas and the philosophy with others they may be awkward but later on may not be as elaborate in philosophy or may not be as accurate in chronology. But all of them are always then the third personality. Gopal Bhattagoswami. Excuse me. Raghunath Bhakti Goswami. Actually I don't know so much about Raghunath. I don't know maybe some other songs. How he actually came baptized also brother. Last year six Goswamis joined the other Goswamis and border Watch Italian he also participated with them. I don't know so much.
Actually.
He was trained there Inaris in the balance scriptures. And he also.
And from there he became when departed.
Then he went to his.
Okay, that's very good.
Thank you. Sh.
Everybody heard what I said.
Confess truth. Can you repeat please?
He said that he was the son of Tapa Mishra. There are two Tapan Mishra and Chandrasekar were ordered by. What's your time to go to Banaras. So they went to Banaras and they waited. It was like really austere. Because Banaras is the head of the Mayavas. And they were there preaching Vaishnav Dharma. Babajitanya came then they organized the Kirtans and everything. And that was what fast day Shankara Sannyasis to criticize Vocitanya and Tanya Nibara together of the meeting with Parhasanandasara Sulti and Bo Chaitanya. And then Bo Chaitanya converted those followers of Shankara of Shankara there to be Konya Vaishnavas. So this was one of the pantomime personalities of this whole pastime was Dabar Mishra. So his son is Raghunathe Goswami. Because also Banaras is the seat of Sanskrit knowledge. Yana seed like Naman tutorial was. But all for a long time Ranaras was so. But Raghunath Bhatti Goswami just like Srila Goswami being very expert in Sanskrit and studying all the Sastras there. So when his father left the world then an order of Chitan ad went to Vrindavan and joined the Uniho swarms. So today is a Dwarati scene. It's traditional to observe the Chakra Matsya in one of three different days. So some people observe it starting in a Kalasis and some observe it starting in Vadasis and some do it starting in purim. It's usually ISKCON kala but they put it by the 40th month. But most of the Vaishnavas start in Kalasi actually. But all three are mentioned options. Whatever you started. That's the day you change from the spinach to the yogurt to the non fast. I go to Mikadasi that I can never figure out what pudding is when I'm traveling. But everybody knows what Mikadasi is. I'm usually traveling. So most of the Sahas do it for Mikadasi. So that means that officially it's already if you do from Akadasi then it's already counted on. So their departure is in the sacred month of Namodar from one of the camp divinations. It's an excuse to have five extra days of offering lamps. So accomplish both in sadhakas and then you're all aware. So pornhub.
But so this is.
Another significant sub that disappearance today. That is Elizabeth down the line. One calculation. Are there any questions?
Yes.
Ramana Bhatta, one of the devotees who was very well known for nautilus and increases. Is that one of the aspects that you was well known about not tolerating anything since years. When you hear somebody who decides.
I'm sure. I'm sure that all the six of relation very much sound like.
One of.
The traits of all the senior Mashtras. Except there's a few like the Dhammadar Pandya that they tended to find fault with a little bit. They're concerned about giving a very high standard. So they would tend to be an over constructed prelicom.
But.
Always avoid the criticism of the Vaishnavas.
You mentioned that Krishna Das Kavaraja Goswami obtained his notes from Radha Das Goswami as well as through Dhammada Maharaj to write the Chaitanya Charaktam Rita. But Vrindava Das Thakur, what notes did he work from?
He works from the north. And his mother Narayani is the niece of Srivastamur. So she was in the house during the whole pastimes of childhood. Pastimes of Lord Chattanoo. She was helping Malini all the time cooking inside there.
So she.
She as she was a family member. So she directly knew everything. So she would be telling all these past names of Hindaw Dast and grow up. She's also considered one of the associates.
Of which.
Any other question.
You mentioned?
K was always taking pictures. I heard some devotees recently saying that.
So and.
It was accepted by Alma Maishna because they appeared in some transcendental form.
Generally.
It'S possible. But how do you verify that someone case like Krishna does come to this? I mean I've had people say that they got a game where I initiate and I still appreciate them. Well, you don't know. I didn't remember it might have had some name like that.
But.
I know that today considering the whole controversies of riches, I know this one. He says he has all kinds of alleged visions and things.
But.
It'S very hard to know. All right. It doesn't really appear to be that way. But it was that Indian devoting that all of there were many Acharyas present who accepted that he was given the mercy of the two. Some of the shrix stay in grandpa's movement. If they were allegedly given shelter like grandpa, that's would take it as an indication that they should rename a Grampha Sumacho outside. When Prabhupada was asked on May 27th of 1977, he said that in the future he wanted his disciples to initiate disciples so that those disciples would be his grand disciples. Disciples of his disciples. Rabbi's desire was to have a spiritual succession number 10. It needs to. Of course you know there's some miracles. But I've always heard about this miracle.
That.
The first disappearance festival of Narahana Thakur. He actually came back for the morning in the sad eye of the Asa sun and was visibly there resurrected, talking with all the devotees answering their questions, giving them resting. How wonderful that would be. How far do that. Whatever you do, I'm sure you know.
Very.
Unexplicably you can see nobody expects just like sometimes Lord she can actually appears in some later time into all the noise and huge good times together. So always anxious for such miracles to happen. These desires are strong. This year's the 25th anniversary called by his. I heard people also say they had brings a problem at home. And then to take initiation from one of his disciples.
In our society, Shiksha, Diksha, we had almost an equal importance of value. I was reading about Studio Academy of Takur consider Shiksha a little bit more important since also we know history. And some of the Vaishnavas they have more Shiksha than diksha. So can you comment please?
We can help with so many Maishads who have six Shadunas. Babu said usually the one who gives the world Siksha that becomes a Nikshaguru. Whoever like that take one as a Diksha guru. But then after that then we have other take the same and also as other Sikhsha gurus. So sometimes it may be that there's a very senior Vasiksha guru and he may play a more prominent role in one's spiritual progress than at least visibly or externally than one Sikh Shiva. All these things are there possible.
Still.
The etiquette is there different from the sixth usually benediction room. So there's some flexibility in the spiritual relationships. What they call the standard kind of situation where the dictionary is also a six year guru. It's usually likely more prominent. In some cases it may not be like that. Maybe the later on some of the TikTok becomes more prominent in the spiritual life of the devotees. Sometimes the principles of different times in the life are more prominent. So we respect all our gurus and all the Vaishnavas. So being grateful to all the help we get from the Vaishnavas and gurus and being respectful to all our gurus and only Vaishnava emphasis and the basis pillar of.
Ram. Ram. Ram Sam. Ram Sam. Jam. Jam. Ram Ram. Die. Die.
Sam. It's it.
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