20030203 || Śrīmad Bhāgavatam (6.16.7) Class || Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma Temple, Mauritius

Lecture (Krishna-Balarama Temple, Mauritius; 3 Feb 2003) expounding Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 6.16.7: the speaker argues that bodily relationships are temporary while the soul is eternal and transmigrates across births. The talk uses scriptural examples and personal/Devotee anecdotes (parental attachment, responses to death, a Rakshasa story) to illustrate detachment and devotional perspective; it closes with a modern contrast (cloning/’realists’) to reinforce that physical replication does not equal true continuity of the soul.
This is Krishnavalaram Mandir 2003 3rd of February Kanto 6 Chapter 16 Text 7 Ram Sam A few living entities are born as a human species and others are born as animals. Although both are living entities, their relationships are impermanent. An animal may remain in the custody of a human being for some time and then the same animal may be transferred to the possession of other human beings. As soon as the animal goes away, the former proprietor no longer has a sense of ownership. As long as the animal is in his possession, he certainly has an affinity for it. But as soon as the animal is sold, the affinity is lost. Aside from the fact that the soul transmigrates from one body to another, even in his life, the relationships between living entities are impermanent as exemplified in his birth. The Saha Chitra Ketu was named Aishasoka or jubilation and lactation. The living entity is certainly eternal, but because he is covered by a temporary dress, the body, his eternity is not observed. The embodied soul continually passes in this body from Voiva to you to old age. Thus the body mass is impermanent. The living entity hour is permanent. As an animal is transferred from one body to another. The living entity, who was the son of such a Gita, lived as his son was sometimes. But as soon as he was transferred to another body, the affectionate relationship was broken. As stated in the example given in the India's birth, when one has the commodity in his hands, he considered the is. But as soon as it is transferred, it becomes someone else's commodity. Then one no longer has a relationship with it. He has no affection for it, nor does he lament for it. Thus Endeavidant Swami Translations purple to the RMA Bhagavata 6th candor 16th chapter 7th verse in the manner of King Chitra Ketu means the water today is the last stages happy to offer them. Today we set up prospects of life in our moon and we speak from a transcendental platform. These verses are actually very powerful. We could imagine being given up. A small child said something. It would have a spiritual, intense, attractive. One must be disliked only like baby's crying. A little baby. The baby dies. All of a sudden the baby stands up and starts delivering a lecture. I mean, what a shock. How faith. They got overwhelmed and then he's speaking, you know, oh wish brother and father, I think in so many thousands of births. What does it all mean? Sometimes we're in one family. We get attached to everybody, just our relatives. We have all kinds of relationships. Some are friends Some are enemies, some are close, some are distant. During soulborn to start a new one new relationships that has nothing to do with himself. Because of our desires of creating all these different relationships these different bodies every life were injected into a new body by a father, given birth by a mother. And like this things are going out. So this verse is explaining that animals if you have a cow, sometimes people sell cows or some Ka practices. We're not supposed to sell our cows but in India I purchased many cow at the cow pares and buy a cow and then once you pay the money then it's your cow. Then you're attached to your cow and that person is out of his mind for a few days. You may have some sentiment's cow later if something happens to the cow, he's not going to worry about it what you're sold at. So Chitter Gita Sat Ashra Soda started expressing things like that. Once I was in one body that seemed to be all important, all the relationships. Now I left that body in some other place. So what does this mean? Let's see. Light illuminates quite a graphic thoughts. It's like we transfer animals from one to another. We transfer the soul from one body to the ants. Normally people would be together in the same family their whole life. It was the system traveling that there would not be divorced people together. This is my husband, this is my wife, these are my children. I don't know if that's if there's any divorce in Mauritius but in the western countries it's become quite governing to start a little bit, not so much a little bit to get these situations of former ex wives, ex husbands, half children, half brothers. When somebody just a couple days ago a mother gave back the child to the father. Now you take care of them. She got married again. She's pregnant and carrying twins and she wants to take care of her new children and satisfy her new husband. Then the husband said if you don't send me $500 a month to maintain the child, I'm going to turn the child over to the foster home. So that's amazing. Pink Swan the normal kind of predictable affection between parents and children. Family lacking in some people. Violence, all this abuse us to a different viewpoint about who we are. What is life. Sometimes the devotee is thinking I'm not this body and his relationships don't know. But actually of course when we're in this body we have to be responsible. We have to be indebted to our parents and indebted to those people who we are connected with. We may not be overwhelmed by happiness and distress knowing that these are temporary relationships. At the same time, we can't be totally impersonal. We have to also reciprocate, be responsible. When Prabhupada asked Mahaji why she was taking care of her daughter. What's her name? Sarason. Then she said, it's my duty as a mother. Prabhupada says, no, I want to love your daughter. Because you love her, you want to give her the best in life. So you're giving her a Krishna consciousness. The Prabhupada would go with the natural flow. It's natural to have affection. Another Raswan mother. Bengali mothers are famous for being very affectionate. Rather one so proud. Ishtar Swami. We should have the heart of a Bengali mother and the courage of an Englishman. And appreciation of consciousness of an English soldier. And an amazing statement. Hierophant belly mother and the courage of this soldier. I remember Subak Swami. He was the Brahmachari. He was with Gopa and Prayampur. His mother came out when Sara come back from England after going there for getting his master's degree. Saw him shaved up with a sikha of saffron. She freaked out and started rolling on the ground. Literally rolling back and forth, crying and screaming and saying she went to sunbathe and Prabhupada was standing there watching. And then one Wayne Papa said, well, you can have your son back. And she got suddenly. Really? Yes, you can head in there. And she came like all fascinated, you know. Of course he won't force him to leave. It's up to him if he wants to go. But he's free to go. You're free to go to my dad. Do you want to go with your mother or you want to stay here? Then he said, no, Papa, I want to stay here. So the mother was shocked what she's doing. But very, very personal, very loving, very caring mother. But here there was a mother. Another case happened where the mother had several children. One of her sons was swimming in a lake. And somehow an accident happened and he drowned. And this was one of Maisham Guru's disciples. We heard about him. He was a nice family. All of a sudden in temple barrier, Most of us 10. Then we saw the family guy, Mayan pork. The mother looked very peaceful and she was having her shopping. Sometimes she smiled. It was quite normal. We heard that you just lost her son. So we were very shocked about it. Maybe it's not true. So we asked is if you're everything all right with you? We heard you lost your son. And he said, yeah. She said, yes, See, we're all here to pray for the soul. You're not upset, you're not praying? She was very transcendental about it. She said that my son is not his body. Praying is not trying to bring him bad. Now we have to worry about good soul. So we're here to pray for him and to try to that he has the best next bird that he can go back to Mishnah. She was very spiritually orientated on the whole thing and was quite impressive that someone had such a spiritual vision. Maybe this is a few days after the departure, where it's national. Initially, there would be some emotions, but then Krishna comes into Bodhi, can quickly control their emotions and see things from a spiritual perspective. Most people, because they don't have any idea of the spiritual perspectives, they become very, very. And become very tactical. This is where devotees actually goes up and helps us people when they're at a time of death to remember Ka. To get spiritually focused. And this way we were to go back to Gandhi. One of my godbrothers told me that his father was dying. He was in the hospital. All the relatives were around. The doctor said he only had a short time to live. Everyone was crying, very emotional scene. And he's saying, okay, you take care of the dog, you'll take care of this cat, you'll take care of this. Everything will be all right. And then don't be loved. Except if he can control his eye with his hand. And just a whole big, heavy, heavy emotion. You know, some people in the back standing there looking, you know, I wonder if they put us in this will. How much did we get? There's a lot of different kinds of people with different motives and different. So this devotee, his concern was, okay, I'm here. What can I do to help my father? His holy Miami doesn't have a clue about what happens. Listen, give me five minutes alone with my father. Just five minutes. I like to say something in the private. And he can all be. Threw everybody out of the hospital room, closed the door. He preached to his father. Dad, listen, you're not the body. None of us. You're not going to die. Actually, you're the spirit. Soul. The spirit or the living force in your body, you're not. You're the soul. You live forever. I just want you once to chant this Maha Mantra, this prayer to God for your salvation. This chantis. You're very peaceful for a moment. Then pounding at the Door. The others want to do maybe signing some new will or something. They don't know what's going on. Y' all getting terrified. So they look. He opens the door. They come back. Daddy. They can hear all the ocean. And the father, you know. Okay. Five minutes of peace after that is now back into elution. It's very very difficult. I am so far to sweep us away. There's another similar interesting story. The Chaitanya chair Bhagavas where the Kirkhan was going up at Shiva's house. And there was a gain coming out from the house of Shiva as garden. All this little shit. There was some noise from the house of Shiva. Shiva told him. I said what's going on? Good son. Your son. What's wrong with my son? What happened? He's dead. He's dead. You sure? Yes, he's dead all right. But there's nothing we can do. Stop crying because they're disturbing the fear job or what you come to listen. You don't stop trying. I will commit suicide and describe your husband too. Don't disturb the kirta and the boy. Chaitanya. Be quiet. So now he became quiet and he went out and joined the Kirta. So near the end of the Kirtanius. Stop. If you come and asked Sivas what happened in your house? Oh my son Gopal died. Your son Gopal died. Why did he tell us? Oh my lord. No one to disturb your true son. You don't want to Sukaba. This son of ordinary king. Your son is dying. One hand of devotee is there. Two eyes you are mixing. You're so selfish. There's too much in your son time. Because it formats us. You won't take any offense and bring out his son. Where is it? They brought out the body of the ladies and kind. You know, all kinds. They brought the bodies. Then Lord Chaitanya told Gopal. Gopal stand up when he ordered. Gopal stood up. Come back when he first come back. Stand up. Be conscious. Stood up. Tell us why you have left. Why have you left? Your wonderful mother and father opened his eyes. He looked to see my lord. Why you asked me why I left. My coming or going is not in my control. You are the best of everyone. You decided who comes and who goes when. Why do you leave your mother and father? Which mother? Which father? I've had so many millions of births. Every birth I've had a mother and a father. So which one are we talking about? Just like this for us today. Once we're in this body. This is my Mommy, this is my dad. We're all attached. This is our religion. Once you leave the body, remember all your other births. You immediately become detached. Which mother? Which mother? Birth number 1 or 2084-872190-00840 seaters of which so many millions of men. Which one you're talking about? So many mothers and fathers. We have King Bread dwell when you heal the body. And in that relationship it's very strong mind affinity. One child, he is already Abba. So you know which mother, which father? So that Shiva, Kalini and other things could see. Wow, this is our son. This is. You know, a few hours before, so affectionate, so loving mother, father. How speaking from a totally spiritual platform. Of course the meaning and Srivas, why did you leave them? Oh, they were such wonderful parents. They brought me to your devotional service. It was born in my hand. Why we left? Lord, you take me back to the spiritual world. I left during your Kirtans. I was going back to the spiritual world. Why are you bringing me back? This is a terrible one. So like the discussions. And then he asked Khalidi, so what do you say? Why didn't I come back or be in the spiritual world? She was such a transcendental mother. She said okay. After everybody gave their permission, Gopal laid down again, left his body again and took the body and performed a final rite. And they all took that. Watch them firstly carry the body cremated. They all created and they all took the man from the Gander. Very amazing. Astankence the glories of 11 chapter 51 Gitla there was a Brahmana whose son was eaten by accident by a Rakshasa. And that Rakshasa. I think I told that story here before. How the Rakshasa revealed that. But there was a deal that Rakshasa won't need any children of the village because he had a guest house. We need all the guests at the guest house. So I mean visited the village, they put them in the guest house. And when the Rakshas said, well, you can't do that, nobody knew about it. So I'm suspecting visitors to stay in the Dharmashala become Rakshasa. But by accident the boy went to get a friend who was in the guesthouse to take him out before it was too late. But the door got shut. He got eaten by the Rakshasan. So there was a person in the guest house who was chanting the Salaman chapter Bhagavad Gita. He was immune from Rakshasa eating him. And the Rakshasa revealed that because of obedience, karma, he was a farmer who ploughed a field with somebody who was scribed for help. He didn't help the person that saves Christian to become a Rakshasa because he did go to save the person who fell down, broke his leg and vultures came and ate him a lion where if he would have discarded the vultures would have gone away. The farmer was so foolish, he said, I'm sorry, I was wanting to finish my field. If you know it was a life and death situation, I'm very stupid. And we beg for forgiveness. So then the saints and the by the water of Sovereign Lucian's 11 chapter about Wahida will be freed from the curse. So then the Rashas have told the prophet father that if you want to save your son, get that curse in the comment 411 chapter. By what means the water around my head, I'll be finished with my curse and your son will be saved. Otherwise your son is almost digested instead of hurrying up. It's not my fault that I ate it and it shouldn't have been in the guest house. So the brother brought up his devotee, requested him to chant the 11th chapter 5 Gita over the water. He did it over a glass of water. They poured it on the Rajasa. And then the Rashad was liberated from the curse and he actually got a spiritual form. And the boy also got liberated and he had a spiritual form. Vishnu Dutas came with a spiritual airplane to take him back to Gaza. But then the Brahmana father told his boy, you gotta come home. He said, dad, look at that. Look. Ready? No, no, your mother is waiting for you. You're not trying to be liberated now. Come home. She's waiting. Your pet dog is there, your little brother. Everyone is waiting for you. Come home. She said, but then I'm liberated. I went back to Ghana. Why would I want to go home now? No, but we love you, we need you. You're going to go your brother, little brother, sister, come home, come home. He's like completely, you know, attached to his son. But the son is already detached, he's already liberated, sees the whole spiritual mission. And then he tells his father that they're taking me back to Ghana. I can't lose this chance. If I go home, I might fall in line up. Nobody got to come home, go back to God's Venus. I'm not going to take that risk. Look at see this man? He chanted in 11th chapter Bible. He that liberated me, you learned from him, chanted, you'll Be coming back to God very soon. I'll be waiting for you. Bye dad. See you. Back to the spiritual world. So that Brahmana he taught me he's supposed to be Brahmana, supposed to know difference in matter and spirit. But he was totally attached. Even if it's time to deliberate person to come back condition the light. So this initiated devotee lady was much more spiritually aware, awake and the Bengali lady than this Brahma man that she's in five month run. Parents, we have to treat our children with lots of affection and love. Because the children they're in an illusion. They don't know they're going to respond to that. We treat them with all kinds of love and affection. And then they'll become very attached to parents. And then if you tell them they are a chant Hare Krishna and worship Krishna Balaram do all kinds of nice things and hopefully they'll do it because they love you and they respect you and also you want to do it because so love is there for the children you want to see they get to bed. Parents are fortified to give love and affection to their children. We shouldn't lose track of perspective what the goal is. The goal is that they go back to God. Not like the Ravana who wants his son to come back to the family which is already liberated soul. Maulini and the Shivas they were detached once they realized his son was going back to Babylon. So here you read to see whether Chitter Craig you receive through his son to come back to his king or. Or will he become detached? What's going to happen? Stay tuned, I won't spoil the excitement for you. You can hear stories of others. This is actually the kind of knowledge that the world needs. Recently at the University of Mauritius they asked me to speak on phony and the ethics of phony. There's a group now, a French group called the Realists who are claiming that they phone human beings and that their goal is that everybody should have their own personal phone. And then you can transfer by some yet to be discovered method your memory to your clone. And then this way you'll be able to perpetuate yourself eternally by a kind of reincarnation of having a clone like a magnetico looks like you. Then you transfer your brain on him such falls. And then this way you go on. It never died, you're old person. I guess once the transfer goes over, the old one can die. I don't know what happens. There's a lot of questions about that period. First of all I would say this is the kind of crazy ideas that are going around now in the world. They don't understand what it's like. That clone is not just some kind of chemicals. Transfer your memory into it, wipe out their memory. It's another living entity. They have the same physical wa or period. Two psychedelical Clints look alike, but they're two separate people. Separate personalities, separate desires, and so many separate things. So this clone may have a body made and a replica of someone else, but they're individual people with their own desires and their own thank you for watching our videos. Be sure to subscribe to our channel. We publish new videos every day. And don't forget to like and share our channel.
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