20040611 || Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 2.9.11 - 14 || Sydney, Australia #JayapatakaSwamiArchives

A recorded lecture by Jaya Pataka Swami (with participant Simon) centered on translations and commentary for Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 2.9.11–14. The speakers describe the spiritual world (Laikopa planets, Vaikuntha, Svarga, Vrindavan), relate stories (Brahmā's penance, karmic consequences, Yamadūta judgments), and give practical devotional guidance for Kali-yuga (chanting Hare Krishna, serving devotees, sādhanā, guru/sīkṣā/dīkṣā distinctions). The transcript includes audience Q&A on practical concerns (sleep direction, types of consciousness, overcoming sense gratification, ways to serve Prabhupāda’s mission).
Forever.
Race Sam.
Sa Translation by his divine grace Some of them are effulgent.
Like corals and diamonds in complexion, and have garlands on their heads blooming like ominous flowers, and some wear earrings. This is describing the inhabitants of the Laikopitaloka. The continuation previous verse was the inhabitants of the Laikopa planets are described as having glowing sky, bluish complexion, their eyes.
Resemble lotus flowers, their dresses of yellowish.
Color, and their bodily features very attractive. They are just the age of growing youths. They all have four hands, they are all nicely decorated with pearl necklaces with ornamental medallions, and they all appear to be effulgent. Some of them are effulgent like coral and diamonds in complexion, and have garlands on their heads blooming like lotus flowers, and some wear earrings.
There are some inhabitants who have attained.
The liberation of Saurugh or possessing bodily features like those of the personality of Godhead. The Vaiduria diamond is especially meant for the personality of Godhead, but one who.
Achieves the liberation of bodily equality with.
The Lord is especially favored with such diamonds on his body.
Text 13.
But the kuku planets are also surrounded by various airplanes, all glowing and brilliantly situated. These airplanes belong to the great Mahatmas or devotees of the Lord. The ladies are as beautiful as lightning because of their celestial complexions and all these combined together appearance just like the sky decorated with both clouds and lightning. Report it appears that in the wake of the planets there are also airplanes brilliantly glowing and they are occupied by the great devotees of the Lord with ladies of celestial beauty as brilliant as lightning. As there are airplanes, so there must be different types of carriages like airplanes, but they may not be driven machines as we have experience in this world, because everything is of the same nature of eternity, bliss and knowledge. The airplanes and carriages are of the same quality as Vermont. Although there is nothing except Brahman, one should not mistakenly think that there is only void and overexatedness. Thinking like that is due to a poor fund of knowledge.
Otherwise no one would have such a.
Misconception of whiteness in Brahman. As there are airplanes, ladies and gentlemen.
So there must be cities and houses.
And everything else is suitable to the particular planets.
One should not carry the idea of.
Imperfection from this world to the transcendental world and not take into consideration the nature of the atmosphere as completely free from the influence of time etc. As described previously. There's no purport for text 14 so read that one too.
Translation.
By His Divine Venus, the Goddess.
Of Fortune in her transcendental form is.
Engaged in the loving service of the Lord's Lord's feet and they mow by the black leaves.
Followers of Spring.
She is not only engaged in varying heated pleasure service to the Lord along with her constant companions, but is also engaged in singing the glories of the Lord's activities. Party so what we're reading is the fruits of the passes of Lord Brahma. The Lord Brahma meditated for 1000 years according to the calculation of the devas. That's a long time since one of.
The devas.
Days is one of our years. My archives. So Brahma was meditating and as a.
Result the Lord was pleased with him.
And he manifested all his whole spiritual world. It's like Brahma was there. He could see all the planets. He could see the beautiful airplanes. He could see the handsome and beautiful residence of the abode of the Lord. His airplane swaying around. Eventually he's going to see the Lord also.
Seated on his throne.
The Lord's going to grab his hands and thank him for his life penance and bless him.
So ready.
And empower him to create the the universe, the internal parts of the universe. So this penance is very important. Penance is not different from the Lord's previously people satiyuga do meditation so well. The original Sapta Yuga, original creative periods. So Brahma was doing this meditation and penance on the instruction of the Lord. We can't imitate that. We're not able to do that kind of meditation. Well now it's the Kali Yuda. And at this age, the meditation, the hands, the prabhupada we're supposed to do. The prabhupada is detailed for us.
Chanting. What if you get in Satya Yuga.
By meditating what you can gather in Trey to Yuga by home or fire sacrifice, which is again Dharma Yuga by temple worship you can achieve. And Kali Yuga by chanting the holy name Sohari. So we don't imitate Brahma, but we follow in his footsteps. He did pray.
If we want to also see this.
Spiritual as possible, we need to chant Hare Krishna. Hare Krishna. Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare. The spiritual world is really amazing. Very beautiful place. Everybody's young, everybody's getting old. No old age, no disease, no death, no birthday. Eternal Tarun and Tyrone. Eternal youth. Beautiful complexions, complexions like coral and diamonds. Very effulgent, very brilliant. Here where they have a good complexion, right? They have so many medications, facial packs, mud packs. Of course, young people not automatically have very good complexion. But as they grow Older then the skin starts to die off. This is not that kind of complexion. This is spiritual. Beautiful complexion, beautiful appearances. Everything is super beautiful. Prabhupada raises the point that you shouldn't think that there's anything lacking in the spiritual world. At the same time we shouldn't have carried over any of our conditioning about the imperfections of the material world. Here you have airplanes where they're producing noise pollution, air pollution. They sometimes have accidents. So then somebody might try to imagine that spiritual world, oh, all that pollution. We shouldn't bring over something like we don't need machines there. Everything is spiritual energy. They can just fly on their own power. It doesn't require propulsion by some kind of chair engines. Now because there's a shortage in petroleum or in the supply shortage because of supply shortage and as a result the prices of jet fuel have gone up. Airlines are losing money they can keep up with. They want to stay competitive. People keep playing. People won't pay more. But the cost of fuel is more. It's only positive. So they may speculate, well, how does this all work in the spiritual world? Do they have, you know, Qantas and.
United.
Singapore Air and so on and so forth? Nothing like that we can't bring over.
But they have everything.
It's all beautiful. They are variegated, perfect manner. This material world is considered a perverted reflection of the spiritual world. Now that they have.
We find that.
Computer generated special effects in the movies so that they can produce practically anything. Eventually we'll see a beautiful picture here. A beautiful presentation of the spiritual world which is a little more closer to the original.
What's everybody doing there? The secret is in text 14.
Goddess of Fortune, her chancellor of form.
She's engaged in the loving service of.
The Lord's lotus peace. Everybody is engaged in serving the Lord.
Not only engaged in serving the Lord. I'm feeling great pleasure doing that.
I feel spiritually blissful. And all her female associates also glorifying the world and his transcendental activities. So Brahmani also gets his backshot of the Lord. He learns to planet sees the Lord also total God realization. The journey to the spiritual world. Also Sanatan Goswami describes how the Gopakumara goes to the different planets in the tail world and gets up to Vaikuntha. In Vaikuntha everything is very much in awe of earth. It's very formal. But his eternal relationship with Krishna is to be a coward boy there he's in Vaikuntha. So he's got a Vaikunta type form. But his consciousness is still like in his original. So his natural desire sees Rayana so beautifully. He wants to go up and to hug him. He said to calmer boys, they play with each other and hop, skip and jump. They embrace each other. They're laughing. But then, you know, all the regards of Narayan are stopping them. What are you doing? They come, say what this guy's going to do. Hug Narayan Inconceivable. Bow down to him, glorify him and offer him ait. It's like real, very, very formal seeing the Lord instead of headdress crown, maybe half a meter high, embedded with solid line. Well then they say that it's worth maybe probably a million Australian dollars. And some people sit targeting the city because he has so much, you know, so many ornaments and the diamond head.
Crown.
It's overwhelming. It takes a while to actually focus to see the Lord to hang all his orange as the Lord also very opulent.
At the same time.
Here he is very family to Brahma, very grateful for his mother taste. All right, go for it. Create the universe. I'll be there. Anything you need, I'll provide you. So we need to also develop that type of surrender to Ka. And he'll supply us what we need to serve him. Yoga, Ishmael, Baham, Yaham. He protects what we have and supplies what we need. He will transform our consciousness in the material world by just praying that Krishna to give us our sense gratification. We want to be a separatist mentality in different modes of nature. We want to have our own separate interests in the spiritual world. Somehow everybody has become harmonious. They really want to see the Lord happy. They want to serve the Lord. And then let me use them.
Okay?
Now he wants to create proficient. He has this wonderful realization. In order to satisfy the Gopal Kumar, he took him into some private gardens where nobody could see. And there he manifested like a cowherd void form. Then he embraced him, prayed with him, everything. But then somehow Gopuka remembered that this is actually not Krishna. This is the riding of plain like this. And.
So then actually he wasn't happy.
There wasn't the same thing, wasn't exactly the same mood.
In the mood for some, the world.
Is that they're very satisfied with Vaikunka. That's really what they want. They like.
Others.
When you go to Ayodhya, there's another mood. There's. That's Sitara and Lakshman, Satuga Bharatan. There's Hanuman and so many Other devotees. So there the raptors are going on, devotees are glorifying and participating greater than that.
Then beyond that there is the Bhai. There's the highest Sakunta Loka, which is.
Boho, the planet of the Lord Krishna. And in Krishna's planet there are four segments. Vrindavan, Va, Tora, Varaka and Svetati. What Chaitanya is in the Sveta grief section. So the devotees of Vojitanya, somehow they're able to simultaneously view a vocaitanya. Also in Krishna's pastimes they have a guru room.
So very special.
Opportunity we have to be chittanimar with the devotees. This is both Lord Krishna as well as Lord Chaitanya. Both Krishna is formed. So it's Gauranga and there's Shama Sundara. So according to somebody's particular relationship that they may be in Dwarka, they may be in Vrindava. But in order to get, you can't go directly from the unconscious of the logic, because you're already conditioned by the awe and reverence modes. In order to get especially to Vrindava, to come down again and take breath until here and go Kula Vrindavana and this material world get integrated with Ka's past tense. And then from there you go back directly to Guru Vrindava. Coming in the material world eradicates that learning of Vaikuntha. And upon simply remembering Krishna, Srila Prabhupada has this testing here about very good Brahmana, absolute truth. It's filled with riot. You don't get this kind of description that I know anyone.
The class goes to what?
6, 15 and 6, 37, 15 and 7, 7, 13, 3 0.
The spiritual world.
Is Brahman platform. It's cats and dental Satan. So the impersonalists, they think well, everything. In this material world there's.
Qualities in.
The spiritual world, therefore there should be void. Nothing is just the opposite. Prabhupada explains that. So material conception is to reverse black and white, personal and impersonal. It's too easy. And actually the material world is a perverted reflection of the spiritual world. Because in the spiritual world they have planets and they have cities and they have people and they have beautiful environments. So the material reflection is also mirroring in a perverted way both situations. But here it's created by the material energy.
So it's not.
Eternal. Living is under the laws of Karma. Spiritual everything is transcendental to karma. Not only karma, but also time. The time factor is controlling everything. Here we're dealing this particular body. We're in this body for a particular time. This body is our prison cell. You can get a better present salad if you have blind and grow. Or you can get a lot worse.
In this particular prison.
Biological cell, biological prism. We're able to further experience material energy and enjoy it and suffer in it. That's the.
Situation.
I read about devotee about some people who go to taken to Yamaraj. Then Yamaraj decides to live in the glories of the fifth chapter. Bhaita. There was this guy who was. He was some of the devotee. But he told him I am this guy into music and became the best musician almost in the world. Royal musician. But he was a little debauchee and so on. There was a whole disagreement with his wife. His wife finally killed him in his sleep. And we went to the Koyamaraj and I said, you really want him to be a high flyer. You want to speak of society, everything. But all you were looking at was, you know, enjoying the sense gratification the individual women. He doesn't do anything spiritual. You're just looking at the dead bodies. So with your beautiful musical abilities, you're going to be glorifying the Lord. So as a result, you can now take birth as a vulture and there'll be a high fire.
Which is just.
You looking down at the dead body. And that was like that's his. The next body is. That's what he's entrapped to. He says live through one bodily existence, one lifetime because of his karmas. And then the wife, because she murdered her husband and she. But she was looking like a real pious widow wearing white. But actually she was also kind of a debauchee and she was behind the scenes doing all kinds of illicit stuff. So when she died and the kind of looked like a real beautiful pious person, like a beautiful and a pious lady. You know that your heart is black. You do so many horrible things. Okay, since you are just. Since you are well, look real good. But you really didn't lose your intelligence. What the future did the pay for all this? Karma did. So I'm devoting you to the animal kingdom. Next birth, we're going to take birth as a parrot. It'd be a beautiful bird. It looked really nice and beautiful, but you know, it'll be a bird baby. So there she was flying in the forest and enjoying her fruits. And things have been flittering around somehow by the Hula province. Her ex or former husband was flying over this forest and sees this parrot playing around and Says, hey, wait a minute, that's the wife that killed me. Now she took birth and stuff. Parrot, here's my chance for revenge. And he swoops down and grabs her. Then he figures, I don't want to just kill her because she should really suffer. So I'm going to torture her and make it a gradual, just rip her apart bit by bit, little bit by little bit, so she really suffers. He obviously had a human mentality. Birds don't have this. So cruel. Suddenly he was, you know, enjoying his torturing her. And she's screaming, screaming when they're being ripped apart. He got thirsty, you know, it was hard work torturing your ex wife. And he lands, he sees looking around for someplace to drink some water and he sees, you know, a skeleton lying in the open forest. And there was a skull upside down and the skull had water in it from the rain. So that looked like really delicious, nice fresh skull water. And if you're a vulture, it gives you a different perspective on things. That's how he saw it would have been pretty nice. He sat on the side of that skull and he was drinking a little bit of water. And then the parrot screaming in pain from being ripped by this cologne. So this vulture and some hunter hears the screams of the parrot, shoots his arrow and pierces the heart of the parrot and the vulture and they die. And they fall into the water of the skull. It was lying upside down. Then the yamadutas come and take the atmas away. So this was like a temporary and.
They still could remember.
At least he could remember what was going on, who was who. So this was just like a temporary punishment. That itguarness an animal that's kind of consciousness. That was their prison house.
That's.
Usually we're just in ignorance. We don't even know that we had a previous birth. We don't know what we did. But we get this body according to our karmas. So when he was taken back the atmas, the souls were taken back to Yamaraj. Then the cacao dance would say, well this guy, he didn't learn anything. You know, he's still in this human consciousness. He wanted to torture his former wife and he's trying to kill her. He has to go for some heavy rehab. We're going to have to put him in some very heavy punishment for all this person's just really cruel person. He deserves to. They got so many different standard 26 programs. Rehabilitation and hellish planets. Sometimes they make custom made ones when they have special order. So that's just to kind of prepare our consciousness. And then so for whatever the next birth is going to be.
Then surprise happened to everybody.
Amaraj said, no, they're going back to Godhead. And even the guy, he said, well, wait a minute, going back to Godhead, I'm a really bad person. I couldn't possibly be eligible to go back to Godhead. How is it possible? What did I do? And if anything, good, I'm really bad, which shows a good character. At least he could recognize that he was really, since he already had a change of heart. Yamura said, no, you see the water that you were drinking and fell into when you died, that skull on the skeleton was of a pure devotee who used to regularly read the fifth chapter Bhagavad Gita.
So because of the fifth chapter of.
Bhagavad Gita, his body, his existence, his consciousness, down to his very bones all became pure. So the water in his skull was so pure, just because the bones are so pure from reading the Bible read a fifth chapter every day that it became like holy water, like a Ganges water or something. It's kirkajal. And you got purified from all your karmas. You got a clean slate. So you don't have any more maternal birth for you. Because your karma is wiped clean by the blessing of the fifth chapter Bhagavad Gita potency which was residing in the monk. So you can go back and then like that, he could go back to dad. But sometimes you get these bonus that creep us sick. Some kind of a medicine causes mercy as devotees are giving out posada, giving out books, giving people the opportunity to chant Hare Ka Dhruvanna. We don't know how many people actually deliberately, just because of the intervention of the devotees. The devotees are surrounded by KA's association, surrounded by his taking his prasada, hearing his glory, serving his devotees in serving the spiritual master and serving Ka directly the deity. As we stay absorbed in Ka service, we actually become purified. We have to avoid things like Vaimakarana. For some people, they rebel in talking against Vaishnavas Srinivasacharya. In his.
In his.
Poem, he wrote on how we need to protect our devotional people from all kinds of robes and thieves and contaminations that somebody likes to come and criticize spiritual mass to criticize. If you're devoted. If we listen to that, then our faith gets contaminated and we get bewildered. And we don't have a resolute determination to take shelter and serve so that you're still Awake our mood of devotional service. The agents of the material energy. So we need to be very careful of all these different kinds of agents of the illusions that take us away. Then there's Krishna's agents and Krishna's representatives. And any contact with them has the opposite effect.
Even a woman's association with a pure.
Devotee can give one all perfection.
Were delivered by a very short association with Lord Nityananda.
Prabhu Nithyananda is also merciful.
Chaitanya is the past times.
But it's very true. See Sivananda Seina. He was merciful even to the dog.
Because he was feeding the dog, taking the dog.
He was merciful to the dog. The dog got the prasada from the hand of Lord Chitanya and was sent back to God. So because of that example, many Vaishnava, they wondered him, if I can just be the dog of the Vaishnava, I could just somehow or another get the mercy of a dear devotee. Then surely I'll get back to nor hills and have love for Ka only by the mercy of the devotees. So on one hand, we have to.
Be very careful about.
Our devotional jewel of bhakti. And we have to be ready the Bhakti Ratna.
So many people want to steal that.
Take it away from us, Pickpocket us. In Calcutta they have very professional pickpockets. They have a whole range of peace.
It's not very overt.
It's very sophisticated. They have so many techniques. I had a godmother, he was black belt karate, third or fourth down. You know, like super martial artist, everything. He was walking down the street in Calcutta with his briefcase.
You didn't realize what happened. All of a sudden he felt this.
Intense itching in his back. It happened to be right next to a water pump. So he went over to the water pump and started pouring water in his neck and his back to resolve the itching. Next thing you looked, there was the.
Beefcase from his spot. Somebody grabbed it, threw the next guy, Threw the next guy. Threw the next guy.
Next guy.
€4. 200 yards down the street. When someone wearing alibar, everybody emerges in the crowd.
They take glass wool and they smash it with handles and make it into fine, fine fibers of glass wool. Using pour that on their back. When that goes in all the pores of the skin. It itches so much now I gotta pour water. A regular thing. That's like the thief's water hole there.
Two, three.
Don't worry.
Tell me.
It happened to them so don't suddenly feel itching on your back.
Don't put your bag down. That's the whole trick.
So like Maya's got a standard routine.
You know the routines.
So that's why they are Chinese.
They guided us.
Be careful in this. All these tricks that they have.
Be a little bit careful. Always.
Don't do things without being sure that it's authorized by Guru and Sandhu and Shastra.
Then we can get.
I mean, if somebody can just fall into my head and still get back to God. This could be somebody taking so much spiritual shelter. We have to be careful to avoid the offenses and avoid the tricks of the angels of my other ways.
We can get it.
Diverted, detoured from what we really came for. So here we read about beautiful descriptions of the spiritual world.
This paradise.
That's where we belong. We don't belong here in this polluted place of birth, of death and rebirth. Give another prison term and another body. And that's the place we're giving a term to serve Ka if he had some service for us. We don't want to just be put into somebody for the serving another term and then obtain as human beings who got this opportunity because of Satsanga devotionally devotee association to get back together to develop our postulation forgotten relationship with Krishna. We should take advantage of it. Beware of all the different kind of obstacle course on the way. Different kinds of tricks.
Any question? Yes. What's your name?
Simon. Simon. Spiritual name. Thank you.
What's your name?
Sima means the limit. The border Simona. So no limit? Not necessarily. It's really according to our relationship with Krishna.
So if you go back to God practice life then would be a man could be.
Depends on your relationship with Krishna. If you're a friend of Krishna, then if you have a voice form. If you're a. If you're. We could also have a female form. It's not maternal form does not have exactly the same function. Somebody is a mother, a lover or wife of Krishna and they get a female form. If they're a father or a friend, they get a male from. If they're servants, it could be male or female assisting Lakshmi female.
But so there'd be some of these.
People here find out. It depends on their relationship. We all have got some like coding everywhere when we are internally with Ka.
So.
Once they get their spiritual form, they'll get that remembrance. What's the eternal place of Ka's past paths they gifted in there. There are birds in the spiritual world, but that doesn't mean. I Said adult be a bird.
But the birds are like our birds.
The birds are also intelligent. They all have like human type more than human intelligence. Everything is alive there. Nothing. Is that magical. Pretty inconceivable.
Could be.
We don't have any clue what their relationship is. There's five types of relationship. There's a neutral or Santa Ras. And those are the trees and the birds and the animals and all this kind of passive type of things. Then there's the servants of the Lord, the servants of Rasa directly doing service. And there's friendship, Rasa exchanging pastime. And Krishna's a friend. And there's parental. And then there's Kanjulo.
Yes, sir Maharaji, your Spanish talking about the Sat Yuga and after Brahman back home and later on about the self. In starting you explained about the satya and after that you explained about the Brahman or Bakun and later on after the Sab. My first question is this. In Kaljugar, while the age of the human being is very less and the Satya Yuga was age was very long. Like a thousand years.
Thousand.
Something like that. What's the result?
Well, that's the way that it's programmed. And things in Satya yoga are very peaceful, very religious, very nothing about sin. People live a long time. Very good Islam Trey Yuga 10,000 years. Things become a little less. The Dwarma Yoga, thousand years as well.
Even more.
I'm very happy we finally get the.
Kali Yuga, where only one fourth of.
Dharma is left.
And back on or Brahman. When somebody reached, in this case.
The.
Holy name of Lord Krishna, which chanting on the beach is already just hearing there. When somebody reaching this stage in the Dhyana in meditation is already chanting there, already listening there. It is true.
Because one second, trying.
To understand the question.
Because when you can chant Hare Krishna.
In the spiritual world. Yeah, it's a spiritual chanting.
That's my path. That's my path.
Yeah. Yes.
Okay.
Very good. Hare Krishna it nish.
It knowledge. Why is he bewildered? Church soul is really small. 1 10,000th tip the of over here in my nud chit Kona and Bhagavad Gita Krishna explains baby het gunamayama Ramayaga ratnaya that this material energy is also an energy of Krishna. So the material energy is much bigger than the individual spirituals. Therefore the material energy has the power to put them small minute spiritual sparks under illusion. It's not a word of any energy. That's also a divine energy of Krishna with the specific Purpose of bewildering us. So because of the Supreme Lord's empowering divine is material energy. Therefore it can be put into a looser. Then Krishna says, somebody surrenders to me, but I'll personally protect them. I'll pass them over this material bewilderment and material energy. If we take shelter, Krishna, you can come over and kind of be will they have some little knowledge. But that knowledge gets bewildered. It's stolen away by others cats. We are the Tatasta Shakti of Madhyasa Shakti with a small intermediate king of energy between the material and the spiritual. We were part of the spiritual because we're so minute. We have to be always under the shelter of a more powerful energy. So we're not sheltered by the spiritual energy. Then we get controlled by the material. So how many of you want to be under the shelter of the material energy? How many want to be under the shelter of the spiritual energy? Krishna. Okay, very good. Thank you. If in my list, last list, my last trip to Mayapur, why not? For a few people were talking about effulgence on the face of Srila Prabhupada. Could you please give us your impressions on this topic? Nobody mentioned Jamila, the Prabhupada's face always looking very filthy. Prabhupada is present in his deities in Mayapur, in the Samadhi temple, very pretty much present. And also even on the experience that they're very fortunate. Maharaj, you are very far away. How can we serve you from here? How many want to serve me?
Not so many, not so much.
Whatever service you're doing for the DV is also service to me. I feel like I'm in intensive care. I have five ways that the devotees.
Who want to help me can help me.
But since not so many here want to help and I'll tell some other.
Dangers to those who want to help.
Help me to fulfill Prabhupada's mission. So there's five ways that someone who wants to One is by being Krishna conscious, chanting Hare Krishna, serving Krishna.
Reading.
Prabhupada's books, going Sadhana bhakti. Because by doing Krishna conscious sadhana chanting that helps me to see the get.
Back to Krishna, which is my goal.
See everybody Krishna can get back. Second one is to help me by preaching, telling other people about the glory of Krishna, to lead to Buddhist linguistics and to lead to congregational preaching or any kind of propagation of the glory through Krishna during this to serving the Vaishnavas. I want to serve the Vaishnavas of be able to serve any Vaishnava.
But also the service to me.
Fourth is sometimes with some personal service with women. Here also include.
Serving the the first one includes serving the duties.
Fifth one is that somehow we keep in contact communication to serve you better. So those five basic ways you can serve you confirm why do difficulties come even if we are in rewarding condition? You notice where we're living. Are we living in the spiritual world? We're living in the material world. So Krishna says that this maternal world is a Dukkhalaya. It's a place of suffering. Dukkhalaya Sahasvata. Anybody who lives here faces some difficulties. But we take those as opportunities for us to serve Krishnamura to overcome the difficulties. All of us were nearest to all. So they never had to face any difficulty. Too many, too many compared to what they had to face without facing any difficulty. They have to face like difficulty which we like. The wrong Queen Conti. She was also praying. Whenever we had a difficulty, we were forced to remember Yuda Krishna. And we came to you for help. And you always helped us. So in difficulty you were always by our side. But now we don't have any more difficulty. Now where all the enemies have been killed or destroyed or conquered or whatever. We're not facing any more difficulty now. But now you're leaving us. So by having difficulty you'll be with us. And by having no difficulty you won't be with us. Then please give us more difficulty. Because you want to always be in your association. So maybe the we analyze our own consciousness. Sometimes our views are doing that. The one is, I am not anxious.
For just having more difficulties.
There are difficulties. There are also tests when we are in difficulties to remember Krishna, we take shelter of Ka and even comfort and success is also a kind of test. Because sometimes people remember Krishna when there is difficulty. But when there is no difficulty, they think why remember Krishna? Everything is going okay. So that's also actually a test that we should remember Ka all the time. Bhakti, Vinod, Takur, you can squeeze a little bit more here. He prayed Vibhone Sampone Jeevane morning that I want to remember you in the mind danger in my success while living or while dying. Such is the so all this difficulty. Actually we should take it as a blessing. Sometimes by difficulty we get more close to Ka. We learn to take shelter of Krishna more. There's also one saying in Sanskrit. The more you rub sandalwood, the more the sweet fragrance comes out. The more you beat the sugar cane, the more the Sweet juice comes out. The more you burn gold and melt it, the purer and the shinier it becomes. Like this. The more that the bodies are put into difficulty, the more that there are good qualities are revealed and such the Lord is. Even at the time of death. They will also be successful and will cross over the ocean of death and receive eternal life. You never know how strong somebody is until they are put in difficulty, right? If everybody, everybody here can say, I can lift 100 kilos. You won't know unless you put 100 kilo down and see who can lift it. Stop your seat, right? So who can actually take shelter of Krishna and difficulty and also in success? I know one devotee, he got a big inheritance. And he thought I was following all these rules and regulations and practicing everything. Because I was suffering like anything. I didn't have anything. Now I got inheritance, I got money. So why should I do all this austerity? Now I can't even join. So he failed the test. Says but for the devotee, some big problem. A problem which is, you can say, insurmountable. Like an ocean which is by the beach. Here anybody can swim to Tasmania. Oceans are insurmountable. As if for the devotee, ocean can be reduced. Like a small impression of our calf of a cow in the mud. You can easily step over it. So the problems don't go away. But they reduce, become manageable. The worry becomes stronger. So for them that's not such a big problem anymore.
Because of their taking shelter in Krishna.
They'Re putting three on one paper is cheating. Next time we're going to eat one.
Potato and we'll put it back in the bottom.
How to develop at least when reading about Krishna? That's where that chant me in the Srimad Bhagavatam, first canto, second chapter. Was it the 17th verse that by serving the pure devotees of Ka, the affinity for hearing about Ka, which I would presume includes reading about Krishna. This one says, really challenge the desire, the taste for hearing about Ka. The affinity for hearing about Ka that increases by serving the dedicated devotees of the Lord. It's actually a secret for us to develop our taste. I was standing it.
So the night 45 is fine. After that it's critical.
Doors are open till 40 past 9. The doors are open till 49o'.
Clock.
It's open, but open till 40. So about 5 minutes each.
Give me a reminding.
Thank you. Squeeze in. Is there a formal process? If a disciple wants to take sitcha from another guru, that's not their niksha.
Guru.
Well, there's two kinds of siksha. There's like just an informal siksha where someone gives some guidance for practically practicing ka consciousness but nothing very serious or physical casual kind of guidance that doesn't have any formalities. But if somebody wants to take someone as a siksha guru and the absence of the diksha guru and siksha guru's instruction would also carry some special weight Song is a damn contradict the diksha guru's instructions and the disciple would generally try to follow those instructions they have without a can always go back to the dictionary guru. Such a kind of a formal siksha guru generally requires the permission of the diksha guru. Sam Diksha guru give blanket permissions for everybody or for certain gurus but some kind of permission because what they're saying is that giving certain level of the power of attorney to the siksha guru. So that's why it takes a little if the diksha gurus around otherwise 1/10.
Remember whatever teachings that dikshanguru gave them.
Could take siksha from somebody who they know as in harmony with great big sheguru. But Krishna does Kavira. He has one big she guru. Everybody has one diksha guru. So allow them more than 1 and 6 Sikhsha Gurus. 6, 6 Rupa Sanatam, Bhattaraguna, Tashaguna Gopal Bhatta Viravata. So you have a good set of six. How do you describe a differentiate between sleep state conscious state, transcendental state, chanting Hare Krishna Mahamantra? There's the sleeping conscious and the dreaming state that we know about in this material world. We go through those three states when we're in deep sleep and that's like a total unconscious. We're sleeping but we're dreaming. So the mind's working and we're going in our subtle body and experiencing different things. When we sleep, a certain amount of time is spent in deep sleep and a certain amount of time is spent dreaming and both are needed for resting. Prabhupada always advised us that the tradition was in the I don't know if it's Ayurveda or what what branch it comes under, but the tradition is that one should sleep with the head to the east or to the and it was interesting because somehow I read in one newspaper article that some scientists did a scientific experiment.
Putting brain scans on.
People who are sleeping in different directions to find out how that would affect her sleep. And amazingly they found out that people with their head to the east or the south had normal dreaming and a Proper deep rest. But people who stepped in other directions.
Like namely north.
Ganesha and his head, the head of the elephant was cut off because he stepped to the north. She would say, anybody who's stupid enough to sleep with a head or more, they deserve to have their head. Everybody knows you never sleep with a head. And more. So there was a poor elephant sleeping with the head of the north. And so he lost his head and that became Ganesha's head. But I think when they designed their flats, condominiums and they don't take these things in the next. Many times when I go to people's houses, I have to sleep with my foot to their head on the bed.
Because they put their head in the wrong way.
So that could affect. So these scientists tested. But they had a theory that it was through the electromagnetic field in the earth. I don't know whether that theory is the reason or what was the reason. But what I found very interesting was that the conclusion was that it was best to sleep with the head of the east of the south. That's what the problem said. Now, as far as the transcendental state, that is a state of ill awakening. Normally we're just experiencing everything through the body or through the mind. So when we're in the transcendental state, actually the soul Atma is himself experiencing. So it's very important trying to achieve this transcendental state of consciousness. That consciousness is directly connecting the soul with Krishna. So there's nothing. There is Krishna Maharaj Prabhu, would you please give me a practical help to overcome attachment to sense gratification. In other words. In other words, mind control. Thanking you. Could I help you? Why not? Somebody wants to overcome some attachment to some gravitation Dharamis as part of our practice. How to get people more attached to Ka. How to develop attachment to Ka. It's very easy to be catched. It's difficult for people to give up something unless they're getting something in exchange. We like to give up their sense gratification. If that's their.
They're dependent on that for some happiness.
But if they have a higher place in Krishna consciousness, then they can regulate.
Some kind of abuse and they can bump to energy.
Festival. We just had a very happy festival. So many thousands.
Over a thousand.
People came and were busily engaged in doing services for at least some kind. When we are busy in Krishna service and there's no time for my. It's better that everybody tries to.
Leave the mercy out.
When we engage our mind in Krishna service our body in Krishna service.
Our words in Krishna service.
And that's what I want to talk about.
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