20041214 || House Program || Kṛṣṇakathādeśa #JayapatakaSwamiArchives

Jaya Pataka Swami teaches Krishna consciousness for household life, explaining the three energies of creation and why chanting Hare Krishna is the accessible practice. He covers correct worship protocol, building home altars, and how family life itself can be a valid spiritual path through yukta-vairagya.
You wouldn't know who is the supreme. So he thought the animals are all the same and just worship animal. So after reading Prabhupada's books, he could understand that there's a relationship. That Krishna is the original Narayana is coming from Krishna, that Shiva is coming from Narayana. That we know. Anyway, Ganesh and Morgan, either son sons of Shiva. And Durga is the energy of Krishna. There's so many other higher energies. There's three kinds of energies. Spiritual energy, middle energy and external energy. So Durga is the material energy, Radha is the spiritual energy. Wow. Shubhajra is spiritual energy. We are the middle energy. So middle energy, we're also meant to serve Krishna. That's our nature. Yeah. We have a question. Actually. Evening. Please can go now. Actually I would like to join you again this evening. Had to work, went to the west. Changed so many people's life. If you all take it up seriously. Just like this one family, the family of. They went to Muscat, to Maternity. And now there is thousands of devotees there. If everybody takes the love serious, they spread the message. And one person can make a big impact. Even if you can deliver, it says one son or one daughter or one person, that they go back to Mishnah. You get 14, you get a free ticket. Somebody goes back. 14 generations of their family members also go back. All the people that helped them, like Dhruva, you know that Dhruva went back to Krishna. What about Dhruva's mother? What happened to her? When Dhruva was going back and she was getting into the Puspam Vimana of the Vishnu Dutta, he said, wait a minute, what about my mother? He was just thinking, what about my mother? They could read his mind. And they said, look here, she's already. She's already in our previous plane. She's already going ahead. She told you, look for God, look for Bhagavan. So this is. You want a sure way to get back to Krishna. You just tell everybody about Krishna. If any one person takes it up higher. There's Radharanis, the a lot of Shakti. And there's other energies for Chit Shakti, Sandini, Sandvikt. Is there a technical, philosophical thing? There you go. It's like there's a science. Exactly. This is unlimited energies. But you can categorize them on different functions. Some energies are meant for. For the spiritual pleasure of Ka. Some are meant for maintaining their existence. Some are for connecting, giving our consciousness. Just like when we want to move our hand, we say move. You know, we don't have to tell it. We just. It just does automatically. So like that Krishna, just by his desire, everything is happening. How is it possible? Because it's energy. Just like in the government. The ministers, the secretaries. If the ruler says I want this, if he has an efficient government, then everything happens. They go here. They'll figure out how to do it. You want a highway to Iraq? Okay, we'll give you a highway here. Whatever it is, the fund is there.
Yes.
Has got unlimited potencies. So we are also. We're considered the middle energy means that we're so small. We're very small, like atoms. So if we come under the. We cannot just be independent. We'll always be under either the protection of some higher energy. So we either under the external. That's the word, material life. We're under the external energy or we're under the higher energy. So we choose to be under KA's shelter rather than be under Maya's shelter.
The external energy is Maya.
Yes, Durga.
And the higher energy is Krishna.
No, he is the energetic. He is lord of all energies. Higher energy is like Radha Lakshmi. Different forms of Lakshmi. I saw that here in this place, there's lots of cats. Don't see any dogs. Lots of cats. So cat carries its baby itself. How does the cat carry its baby? How does a cat carry the baby? Kitten is by the neck. It bites, Carries it by the mouth. Does it hurt the kitten? It is carrying by the mouth. Picking up and carrying. How does it bite a rat in the mouse? Same teeth. Does it hurt the mouse? No. Machine gun, television every 15 minutes, commercial breaks. So I was telling about the cats. That's an example. But I thought I'd disembowel the children. The cat is playing baby cat is the way Krishna, through the spiritual energy takes care of the devotees. And the way Durga takes care of the people is like the cat taking care of the mouse.
Yeah, that's the difference.
Lets him out, go sometime and then catch his. Let go plays a little bit. And then finally she is jailkeeper. This is a prison house. This material world is a prison house. We are good prisoners. We get elevated. We can become devas. If we're bad prisoners, we are demoted. We're put into Naraka. And right now we're somewhere in the middle. Chota Bhuvana. 14 planetary systems. We're in the seventh level. Go Chitanya said Kabe Swarga Utai Kabe Naraka Dubai. Gandaljanajana Navide Dubai. Sometimes we're put up into heavenly planet. Sometimes we're put down in hellish existence Just like the prisoners was put under the water dunking under the water and they lift up, down, up, down so what we should really do is get out of this cycle so normally you see one had to become a Sanyasi to get liberation but now one can get liberation as a Grihasti but then one has to chant Hare Krishna no one has to serve Krishna of course you can do any one serve Even if someone went all the time Bhagavad Pinta that would be enough or if one does regular other things but easiest thing is the chanting of Hare Krishna along with some other practices that's the easiest but we need to be more Ka conscious so that's also hard for people how they can because they don't have that desire maybe their friends rather play cards and rather do other things so the chanting what it has is like a medicine by chanting then we get orientation changes and we start to see things which is a more important for us Just like people they put all their hope in their children Sometimes children will grow up they'll take care of me in my old age they'll be this, they'll be that but then we don't give them a spiritual environment in the house maybe when they grow up they may forget about their parents Also anything can happen we don't know we pray all the good things happen so we don't know what happens so all the material plans we make are all subjects to any kind of change that way if we learn to depend on Ka it didn't happen the way the Pandava thought it was going to happen it was an easy thing they were the sons of Pandu they should be the rulers of the world but so many problems came in between but at the end they were the rulers of the world and they have to go through some tests so when Krishna was leaving Astinapur going back to Dwarka the Kutti Didi's prayers have you read the prayers of Kriti?
Yeah she opened it for sadness she.
Said you gave us all the good fortune material fortune now we're the emperors all enemies are finished we got everything that materially we could want but you're leading us and maybe by all these things we can get locked into material rebirth again and again so if we have to choose is it better to have all the good fortune and you leave us whenever we were in danger you always were with us so then I ought give me danger but you, I want you when the queen Christianized with his dad. Warriors even in their good fortunes, if they remember Krishna. It's up to us to remember. It's easy to remember Krishna when we're in danger. At that time, I feel hopeless. What to do then? Before our exam period, all the students come to me, ask for blessings. Saraswati Puja become very busy temples. Become active once, exam over then. So that's why people. I had one from Bangalore. One Raman family. And the father went to work as an expatriate in America. And he was big scientist there. He got lots of money. Every hundred thousand dollars every years. Built three story house in Bangalore. Had a house in America and children in America. So his son was born in America. And he married. He somehow became my disciple. The son and the son married another of my disciples. Both of them are living there worshiping Radhan. Just like this. They had altar in the house, the doing puja. So the father son that they're doing the puja. They had a daughter. He said, you're too young for all this. Why are you doing this? Go watch a movie, Enjoy life. Do this when you get old. Why are you doing puja now? They said, no, father, we're very happy. We're having a spiritual environment. We're living together. It's five or three. Peace. Then later he went back to India with his other brothers and other religious. And the brothers told him, why don't you go and visit the holy places now you retire, Go and visit Pitrupati, visit Ram, Sri Lanka, Guruvayur. All the holy places. He said, I go there. I can't concentrate. Because all my life I'm just thinking how to make money, money, money. So I'm thinking, you know where to put my money. Trust, share, market and fix, deposit. All this type of thing. I can't simply. And so what do you need money for now you got house, your daughters are married. Suak Sadhu, what do you have to do now? Well, I have granddaughters.
It never ends.
It never ended. You know, now is the time when you should dance. And I know. But I'm not able to fix my mind. If you leave it till the end of life, it's very hard to change at that time. See, you know, you can't teach the old dog new tricks. So that's why Veda says we should practice from age to life. But for that to happen then the parents should also have that environment and their children. So we're taking people. They didn't have that environment. They didn't do it since they were children. Maybe now they're 20, 30, 40, 50. And they're just starting. So it's already hard what to speak when they're 20, 55, 60, 70. Little change in them is more tough. That is important. But they'll say you're being too religious. They don't know. Everybody wants to be happy. So Lord Chaitanya, he showed that it's the highest happiness to be Krishna consciousness. Like when I went to. I go to Maskatra. The devotees there, they're so active and them preaching for other gui Hastas. And I went to one house. I had a vcd. Wanted to show on the tv. I said, can you play it? He said, maharaj, we have to confess something. We've been so busy doing this propaganda. We forgot how to connect the tv. We haven't played it for about long time. For a long time. And I saw it was. Everything's clean. But that was a little dusty. Yes. I thought wow. This is means that how much happiness they're getting. It's normally we're addicted.
Yeah.
TV all it 27 channel 50 channel 100 channel 256 channels. You strengthen the channel. So no. They're so happy. I read once in a paper in Bombay. One guy was so angry. He took his TV set and threw it out of his window. Big multi strike had a million. He said, what did you do? He said, this is destroying my family life. We never talked to each other. This from a material point of view. We never talked to each other. We never associated messages. I finished with this tv. He said that the next guy took out his pretty soon tv. Rajesh. Yeah. Lord of Kings. You know the meaning. She's one of our devotees.
In fact I talked to you when you came to Madaji's house in Muscat. When I had a baby girl. Same day I happened to call Madaji and I talked to you.
Oh, you're over the phone. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes, yes. What's your wife's name? Deepa. Yeah.
Cheese to take one.
Doesn't I mean hope I will change. In case somehow I'm not able to continue. Then that is why I had that fear. What is the fear? Tell us. No, like mean something. Like if I suddenly. If I'm not able to do then something.
No, no. That.
That is another fear. Another fear. Actually we are still unaware of this. I think we need some more time.
I offered. I asked Prabhupada, one of his godbrothers what he thought. That time when I did this Shiksha program. The People would say, okay, I'll chant one round while they're saying inside, I'm going to try. I'm they're making a personal commitment to themselves or that their. That their intention is that we shall have to speak much. It's not about a promise and such. It's just the only intention that I will chant. But if they don't do it, then there's no offense, you don't have to have a fear about it, but you should. It's like just you try to do it because it's for your welfare. That's just the level. And then if someone drinks, so they like to give them a blessing or to do it. You see, even in management, they say that there's a comfort zone. We're very comfortable doing. Not too much. But then if we stay in that zone, we don't make any progress. Then there's the stretch zone a little bit. What we're doing now, we do a little more. We can do that. If you want to make progress, then there's this going too far. This is the panning zone, panic. But you cannot sustain it. So we want to avoid people from, you know, putting them in a panic. But they should little bit try that. Whatever they're doing. How I can always improve. Just like somebody can lift up one kilo, after a while he can lift up two kilos. You can do amazing things. They said sometimes there was a baby, got some car or something, filled over the baby. And the lady who is not like so strong, but to save her child, she got a superhuman strength and lifted the car. So that's a real special case. Sometimes by Krishna's mercy, I strengthen him. What you're doing now is you do it gradual, step by step. He may be few steps ahead of you. That also gives you. Because whatever he does, the wife, we share in that also. So if he's a little faster than you, sometimes wife is faster. Then I don't know if husband, wife, he also gained. Because the spiritual things everybody gains. Even materially speaking, even the wife doesn't do anything. Just being the wife. You get 50% of all the Pune. And if you're actively helping him and also participating, you're sharing everything. So I know like sometimes husbands, usually it's the here the wives. I don't know, I don't study. But in some places the wives are more ahead of the husbands. As the husbands are working, some are going out doing traveling, selling things. They have to be healthy with the diet type of job. But then the wife does that makes the house more spiritualized. Maybe the wife's doing 16 rounds, husband is doing eight. Wife's fully vegetarian. Husband's still taking onion garlic. When they're traveling, they're not able to be fully vegetarian. The different kinds of situations. Sometimes the husband goes a little we like it. Somehow they can both going at the same. You can't force that. Everyone has to come speed. They're just a little bit different. Then okay. Sometimes we wait, catch up. There's a big gap. Then it may the wait will be too long. And then I'll slow down the one person.
If a person takes shelter, then what is the point will be? You feel like a Sanyasi or something.
Whatever your ashram is, you have to do your duties like that. If you're a Grihasta, then you have to take care of your family. That's your duty for Krishna. It's not that my spiritual life you become more of a Sanyasi. The real success is called Yukta Vairag. You do everything for Krishna. Some of us they're thinking that if I can help my wife and my children, I take care of them. I help them to be also bad practice is also my service to Krishna. As part of the Vihasta Dharma. Vihasta can add. In fact, one Vihasta once told Lord Chaitanya that I have wife and children, money and a house and land, cows position in society. But I'm not happy. I want to give all this up and join you and be like Sannyas. And then Lord Caitanya chastised him said, I never want to hear these words from you again. You're speaking like a monkey renunciate monkey look like very renounced. But they're actually enjoying they venereal. What you should do is you stay where you are. Chari Nakotari coaches from the New tell everybody about the message of Krishna and I will always be with you. The people all try to become sannyasis. The whole world be in chaos. They'll be sannyasi for one week or two weeks or one month or two years or something. Run back to the house and they create a disturbance. So Lord Chaitani was against that. I said, you know, in his Krishna consciousness, you don't have to be a Sannyasi to get liberation. You can do it as a Grihasti. All of us were Grihastis. Most of our Chaitanyans associates and followers were all Grihastis. In fact, his instruction was Vijay Taco. If you're a greenhasta stay a great hasta. If you are renounced, you can remain announced. So no problem. But everyone should chant Hare Krishna. In fact, in Iskcon originally there was a little bit of this tendency. Not bad. Not broadly, but few people wanted to take sannyasi. So we made that rule. Nobody can be sanyasi without the permission of the wedding. So in our just the idea that ideas that have been wiped together. There are two parts of that single. I perform hundreds of weddings in a. I don't know, hundred a year, but maybe 20 in a year. Even though I'm a sannyasi. I had to encourage the west and the guru also. So I had to encourage my disciples for their spiritual life and for them to be married. It's a big step. So we encourage them that together husband and wife should serve Krishna. They should be and they should do their family as a service to Krishna. So then the whole family life become also with Krishna in the center offering the food. If you eat, you feed the prasadam to the children. Then the children get spiritual energy from that food. That's why for us in the province that we're not vegetarian or non vegetarian. We're actually Krishnatarian. We want to eat Krishna Prasad. Krishna Prasadam Chenning something. I don't know why the word would be English. As your husband's guru, I'll tell him that he has to remain fixed in his family vowels. I don't think he never told me he has any other desire.
Maybe I feel I have that fear like he will one day leave us and go.
I think because of that.
I mean so much I don't know as everybody. I mean humans have little what is.
The house of life for that you should get experience one ever has to learn. Then by the time you're 50 60s when all the children are grown up and husband wife together they can become mana brasta. Then they can visit holy places or go and live in some holy place. Or get a build a house by selling some behras after coming from a job. They're building house now in May so they can go and do worship One from maternates what's his name back to general prison. He's living with his wife. Rented a bought a flat in Mayapur and he's doing the management of the mayapur samadhi. And also helped me with. But they're living husband wife together. They got their daughter married there. They haven't taken mana past as such. But they're doing service like that in a temple. They don't have to do that. Some people are going like Dr. Balaram Desh, Dr. Ravi Raman. He went to Alipi and has built his house. And in the house he made one prayer hall. Well, it's better to make the prayer hall separate. Like in the garage and stuff. You have your house private. As he built the house. Everybody builds houses when they work in the calvary. So you build in such a way that maybe ground Flores temple upstairs living or scientists some preaching facility, some temple or some hall having function. And they do that when they go back. So we don't we say Christ the people that they should. Whatever they learn here, they should. Should continue doing that throughout their life. One couple migrated to Canada with their children. And the wife is preaching over husband is also as they're doing their job, doing their career. But they also doing some Bhaji Mikha groups. It has become part of the life that we want to tell other people about Krishna. There's so much more enlightening. People are suffering, anxiety, stress, so many problems in life. You can help them. You can make a difference. I think now I've had to. Women have no lesser place in the obligation than the men. Because families are all based on the women. If the women are conscious, then 60% or 80% of the battles choice after a woman can gradually create such environment. Of course the husband is really strong. But it's very tough if the wife isn't cooperating. Like if I initiate something and the wife isn't vegetarian or something. But I do all these things create conflicts in the house. They both do altogether then never find any different difficulty for that spiritual reason. In fact, one day of the enemy once said. Everybody thinks we're happy. We have a good house, good car, everything. We're really suffering. We're always fighting, but nobody knows it. So I'm telling you what should I do? I told them we worked together. Except they knew their personal nature wasn't compendable so much. They say you do things for Krishna together. I don't do it because it's for him or for her. We do everything together for Krishna. And then they started all housing programs in the house. They had kirtans in the house. And they found that whole environment in the house changed. And in their married life became better. We want people to be peaceful in this world. To be Krishna consciousness and end of life go back to mission. It's not that we're promoting that people should move. In fact, Kali Yuga sannyas is prohibited only in very rare cases. People are Supposed to become sannyas. Even we're not sannyas that live in the forest. Like I'm sannyasi. But I'm traveling and preaching using my computer. I answer my email to all the disciples in devotees. Our principle of sannyasi even for the sannyasi is to do everything we thinking, speaking and doing should be practitioned. Even in ISKCON we have maybe million followers. Just hundreds of minutes. The 999,500 doing things for Krishna. That's what the mahast this morning is here his wife president is say that okay, I can see my husband become more spiritual in life. And he's very chanting very he don't push me or anything. But he is very aligned with me. If I try to pull him back, then the temporary gap goes more. I should try to catch up. Then there'll be less gap, less problem. At least let me help him whatever he's doing. If I can't do some more, let me help him I guess. And if he goes back to history, he also google it. But the women are naturally devotional. Just that by itself. Like you said, this fear is also put by Maya. I can see the altar is very beautiful, very well organized. Has flowers, has. But this is not a sign of someone who doesn't have a devotional nature. Yes, very beautiful. Yeah. One of the most beautiful authors I've seen. I think you have potential to be a super pure devotee.
Like if you are in Krishna consciousness you cannot we love all gods like all gods we do puja like only particular God. We are not sticking.
Appreciation for all the different. But it's like once you know the relationship it's like if you are here before say this. You're someplace where there's a ruler and then he has got a crown prince. If in front of the ruler you call the crown prince are the supreme ruler 7 so what happens is that either the devas are pleased if we don't know how to worship them nor is Krishna pleased. It's okay. From maybe the beginning stands okay, everything's all the same. And we just put it that we Vishnu but ultimately we should know who's who. So you know that Krishna is the supreme and that Vishnu they're all parts. They're all not different from Krishna. But that the devas are separated from Krishna. They're only for the material world. So we worship the devas also. Just like you go and maybe you've seen in the Maha Mamalapuram the Mahabalipuram temple in chennai. Here Chennai 16 so many temples in South India. They. They'll have the main d Paral, it's Vishnu. But they'll have Shiva, they'll have Durga. They'll have. They have. So they offer first the puja to Vishnu. Then they offer the prasadam to Na in J. Say that all Tagana percent all Krishna percent is offered to Bimla Devi, whose form of Durga. And then from there we get the Pisan. Everyone else gets, but she gets first. So like that. There's so many temples. So that's how we worship. At first we offer the bhoga to Krishna, then he makes it prasad. Then if we want to even worship Shiva or Durga others then we offer them prasadam or Krishna because they're also like Shiva is always chanting on Rudraksha. He's chanting the name of Rama, he's worshipping Krishna. So that way he also is called Vaishnava. Sambhu is the greatest Vaishnava. So he likes to get the prasada from Vishnu. Ganesha is writing the Vedas into gods. So he also likes to get the prasad. So we worship in accordance to what is the correct protocol. If you call the prime minister, your honor and you call the. You know, you call the Emily. Your excellency all this time it's not the right protocol. Governor's excellency. Chief minister is most honorable. Ministers honorable like that. Everyone's got some title, some weight. So we just know how you're supposed to do it. We just say do it like that. You do first puja. You offer all the articles through the guru Parampura. First offer to Krishna and then offer to the devas, then to the gurus and then to us. So we also were respectful. I visit. I was just. I'm in Rath Yatras in Malaysia. Malaysia is mainly Tamil place other communities also, but Soma many Tamils. So the mostly Ahmad Morgan and Ganapati temple. Few Ka very few. Mostly it's all there. Shiva Sampra. So we stop before every temple. So we offer the Ar Krishna go and offer the prasada Marathi to the Lev. We respect them, but we don't think that they're the same as Krishna. We don't think that because we know they're like the charge of one departure their department head. They're not the supreme head. Someone doesn't know. Okay, but once we know better that we have to we're coming in the Brahma Sampradaya. So Lord Brahma has revealed all these things, who's who and the Brahma Sam Gita explains how Ganapati got the power to relieve all the obstacles. Because he put Krishna's feet on his head. So because of that he became ignition. Now Yoga is doing all the creation, maintenance and destruction of the material world. But she does it according to the wish of Vishwa Krishna. She does not independent. She doesn't just do it. It's not like all independent. Why everything is working is that follow line of authority. So one should know what that line is. Then accordingly also worship them. Accordingly. You think it's all the same? MLA is same as prime minister. People think it's okay for maybe a small child. But any adult any announced that there's a different mla, mp, State Minister. Then there's the central Minister. Then there's the cm then there's the pm. Like that we should know. It's called. First part of spiritual knowledge is called Sambanda. Know what is my relationship with Krishna? What is how everything is related. So Sambanda to know the balance on the relationships. The next is for Adidiyya. Okay. Now once I know everyone's relationship. Now acting accordingly. I am servant of Krishna. So I should try to serve Krishna knowing all that. Also Shivas are servant of Krishna. So I respect him. As a Vaishnav. I know he's powerful. More powerful than me, Kutcher, powerful than everybody else and universe. But compared to Krishna, he's not a morpho. He's an expansion of Krishna in a partial way. So we respect him like that. We know how everything fits in. Then if you do like that then you get the Prayochana which is love for God. Why people are loving Krishna because they don't know how. What's the difference between Krishna and Shiva and Indra Agni name and Vayu name and it's all merged. They don't know how it fits in. So that's how you get like some religions where they just take away all these things. It's only one God finish nothing else. But then somehow they have angels and they have other. So what? I can understand other religions outside the Vedic tradition. What we call as Devas, they call us angels. So the same personalities are there, but they just give a different title. You should never defame the daily. Yeah, that's why.
So when somebody is talking less or thinking that he is not that he should not be worshipped then Krishna doesn't. Even though you are devotee, he will not accept our view.
You should respect this. Offers are worthy of our respect. They should not be worshipped as independent of Krishna. Nobody is equal or independent of Krishna. We see them as dependents of Krishna. Accordingly we respect. So we give Krishna the first worship and give them the substitute worship. Or we pray to them as a devotee. Even the Gopis worship Katakani. But they prayed for Takatyani. Given Krishna as husband, Uma gives a good husband. So we pray the Kambyani for Krishna Tanthan.
Even 20 year baby she was.
She did.
No, I think Gangari will do swarna Guruta by making some golden. Golden ayavata elephant. Then Arjuna will go, Bima will go with the support of Arjuna. And Krishna will tell him how to go. And they will get the airavata from Indra. And with that real airavata they will do Sonaguri. That was one.
They could do so many things. That time Devas were coming down, Arjuna went to Indoloka. I mean, we cannot think. They're not. They're more than. There's more than Maharaj. There are superhuman people.
And even the Gandhiva was given to Arjuna by Shiva.
He did the Vasya.
Yeah. I think in Kalyuga, I mean in Kaliuga, the. I mean the demigods and I mean going up or down, it's stopped. I think in Kaluga.
Yeah. Before humans were more elevated, more spiritual.
Yes.
So the devas had. Spiritually they could have some communication, some relationship. Relationships. But now neither materially, spiritually they're gone down. So materially it's not important to them.
It is like. I think if they don't have respect in somebody's house, we won't go to their house. Probably the Devatas feel that human beings are not fit to receive them.
The dog come here to pass water. Used to come here for Rajasuya something Yagya, you invite all the devas, they would come. Even now this is Devas come when you chant Hare Krishna your house, when you're reading Bhagavatam, the neighbors, they also come. Yeah.
So even now when they do the. Actually it rains at that time. And you know, when they put the Nishala on fire, this went by the rain. It happens even now. It's there so many, so many Yas. In Kerala they did.
And every time during Adam.
Yeah, every time it rained.
And when we do Rathyatra, it rains a lot of times. We just did. Radisha came.
So it's one that's not. I mean, not able to see. Only they come and stay here.
They're there. We don't say that Levas Are there? We don't say that they're not Karakur. We don't say that that is respectful, respectable. Only saying that they are the subordinates to Krishna. So acquired me that we have to respect them not as independent.
Yeah, the due respect.
Due respect. Not more or none, less. If you're giving all your respect to Krishna and they're also gaining that they're part of that they get automatic. You put the water to the fruit of the tree, the whole tree. So that's why some people. I live and work in India and in all these countries, so I had to deal with a lot of devil worship. But like in Western countries, there's nothing. There's no devas. There's no spiritual, nor counselor, nor anything. So there they just taught about Krishna. They told about devas that they respect, but they don't institute for them that they have to worship. Now the Indians that go out to the west, they're used to worshipping the different devils. So if you simply worship Krishna, then you altar here you have more or less the altar. Okay? But otherwise some people, they put all mix up the order. You put Krishna upper part and then he has the devas on one side or lower step. And then you offer Krishna, then you offer the lamp to the devas and everything here I don't see so many.
There are many responsibilities which were entrusted to him by Srila Prabhupada. One of which is developing Mayapur town, which is the headquarters of iskcon. And so the city just. I mean, any of you have visited that from nothing. When he went there, when Srila Prabhupada sent him, there was nothing, just empty land. And now there are so many buildings. And then the most significant thing is the rising up of the which is predicted by the Acharyas. It is going to take shape in the next few years. And he's very actively involved in that. And also he's the trustee of the DVT in charge. And then there are other things like discovering the temples and bringing all the Vaishnava together. So very, very important responsibilities have been entrusted to him. But the most important also his contribution is towards congregational preaching. Because Srila Prabhupada told him that it's not enough that we just have temples, but we have to make every home a temple. That people who come for the temple programs should also cultivate the devotion in their homes. And that was the vision he had told him. And his wholeness Death Cup Swami has developed it over the years. And he's a Conversational development minister of the scorn. And the latest contribution has been the Bhakti rickshaw. He started with the Naamata program, which is like, you know, the congregations having a program on their own, you know, not just in the temples. And now the Bhakti rickshaw program is how everybody is trained to have a discussion groups in every home. And then how everybody is systematically trained to become a preacher himself. And in this way, the Gulf itself. The Gulf is the best example of the Bhakti Ruksha preaching because like just, you know, there are thousands of devotees in the Gulf now because of this program. So his oldness J. Swami was very, very keen to come to Kuwait and to give his mercy and association. And we really very, very fortunate. Actually it was like a big. I mean, it was a big desire and pray all the devotees bringing him. And then today we've been blessed with showers. You must have noticed that we had some rainfall brief just after his program in Divakat Prabhu's house. So it's all very good indication that the Lord is very pleased by his mercy. And we should take advantage of his great compassion and mercy that he is.
Hopeful that your little satsang here will grow and appropriate manner so that everything will be very auspicious and more people can be able to benefit from Krishna Bhakti and some parts of your life Happy that her grace came upon. Muskaj has come here. She and her family went there I don't know how many years ago maybe, but they started this program which is called bhakti dicksh. Five years ago. Six years ago I finished.
We have known since 95. Yeah. So yeah, nine years. Eight years.
Eight years ago. Originally had 30 people. We have about 30 people here. And now how many people you have 3,000. So this is a bigger place. It's all based on having little satsang that's much smaller than this. About 10, 15 people in the house. Which doesn't disturb anybody. Because in this environment here where we have to be careful not to disturb. Right. You want to be able to just. So you have small groups. And the program is based on very quiet pageant. Some, maybe an icebreaker. Some getting to know each other a little bit. And then members of the group having a short class instead of having a long class. We need a very advanced speaker. Maybe sometimes just a reading. And then you have a discussion with someone. Facilitates. One person is designated as the servant of the group. And he or she facilitates the group by taking it through these different steps. And then we have a discussion the way the discussions are held. Also some guidelines are given. Sometimes the different themes of the classes are predetermined. Sometimes you can do it as you like. There are like you can get. They have modules from Maduradesh. You give all the countries in the Middle East a code name. So I walked in the room and he was saying something about.
Krishna Kanaya.
Next door is Ballarat. So the idea is it's not only in the Middle east we do bhakti dicksha. It's done in many urban places, educated people. They're doing it also in parts of Malaysia, they're doing it in Russia, they're doing it in America. Doing it all over the world, different places. But it's especially since she's very well suited here in the Middle East. And as a small group, sometimes they also have meetings in different languages. Like for some people, English is quite alright for English medium educated, but then for some people that prefer to have it. And so how many different language groups do you have? For instance, in majorities, language groups almost get together. Because here I don't know if there's a place you can get together. Maybe they were able to all get together, but there they have like a couple of two official authorized temples where a big group can get together. But in many places, Bengal you don't have that. Here you don't. I don't think you have such a place, an official, legally authorized place and you can fearlessly get together, have a big group of us, they have one temple authorized indoor Rath Yatra with 5,000 people. They take the deities around the dragon of small Jagannaths. A small ratam goes around, around in the hall and the people are pulling for about two hours doing cultural programs and 5,000 people take us out. I said I'm not exaggerating. But where in other parts, like they don't have a place like that in Sham or Srivas, kind of like a Dhammada dish. Thank you for watching our videos. Be sure to subscribe to our channel. We publish new videos every day day. And don't forget to like and share our channel.
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