20041220 || Bhagavad Gītā 9.13 || Melbourne, Australia #JayapatakaSwamiArchives

A spoken lecture by Jaya Pataka Swami centered on Bhagavad-gītā 9.13 and the nature of a Mahatma (great soul): qualities of surrender to Krishna, freedom from material nature, and exclusive devotion. The talk mixes doctrinal exposition with practical preaching examples — book distribution, jail and prison outreach, migration anecdotes — and advice for balancing material life and Krishna-conscious service. The speaker emphasizes producing Mahatmas through association and preaching, and gives guidance on altar practice, respect for demigods in relation to Krishna, and household priorities for devotees.
Jam Sam save personality original and exhaustive. In this verse the description of the Mahatma is clearly given. The first sign of the Mahatma is that he is already situated in the divine nature. He is not under the control of material nature. And how is this affected? That is explained in the seventh chapter. One who surrenders unto the supreme personality of Ravana Sri Ka and once becomes freed from the control of material nature. That is the qualification. One can become free from the control of material nature. As soon as he surrenders his soul to the supreme personality of it. That is the preliminary formula being marginal fancy. As soon as the stiving entity is free from the control of mature nature. He is put under the guidance of the spiritual nature. The guidance of the spiritual nature is called Daima Kriti Divine nature. So when one is to morph in that way. By surrendering to the supreme personality of God one attains to the states of great soul. Mahatma. The Mahatma does not divert his attention to anything outside Ka. Because he knows perfectly well that Krishna is the original supreme person. The cause of all choices. There is no doubt about such a Mahatma. A great soul develops through association with other Mahatmas. Here the Monis are not even attracted by KA's other features such as the forehead and Mahavishna. They are simply attracted by the two armed form of Ka. They are not attracted to other features of Krishna or are they concerned with any form or with living God or human being. They meditate only upon Ka and Ka consciousness. They are always engaged in the unswerving service of the Lord and Krishna consciousness. It the great souls. Mahatma, you do like to represent politicians. Sometimes they call some great politician in here. Some famous all the fishing of the Monatma. His point was that Mahatmas are those who accept the supreme personality of God. And they worship and they engage in devotional service to the supreme personality of Krishna. That's the definition of the Mahatma. The divine Mahatma. Mahat means great and Atman means soul. So Mahatma is graceful. There's many devotees, different devas and different forms the Lord's energy. But these are not the considered the venues. Very pious personalities may have many qualities. But today consider really a great soul. Someone is no longer deluded about Huzu. They fully engaged in devotional service to the Lord. I was talking with one family and they were saying that over late they were worshipping all the devas. So they're already attached to them. So they presented a very famous nice way. I know they were attached. They didn't want to Neglect anybody they didn't want. They wanted to continue to show their affection. And I explained that that's okay. We also respect all of the Dev again that Krishna gave us our angels who are responsible for managing their materials for the supreme Lord. We also worship them. When we worship them as what is the relationship to Krishna? Everybody the first thing in spiritual life is every day and friends and personal relationships. Who you are, how you live. The offense is if somebody thinks that all the devas are equal to Krishna or independent of Krishna or somehow they're all independent Lords, Gods. The Vedas are actually very monotheistic. She wants more kids. So when people set up their altars, we have to establish that as Krishna then come from Krishna Kambala. Then comes the Narayani forms the Mahavishnu, Vishnu Yoga. Daksha is the traditional form super soul with the ritual format. This is the form is Krishna. So that accordingly we put Krishna at the top of the altar. Put them in the templates altering the worship first. Then you have to respect to the other velas and assistants and energies of the world. There's no harm offering respect. But the respect should be offered in accordance to their relationship. Six is every evening Lord Shiva Vriana takes the form of a Gopi and goes to merit the Rasdhila. So if you want to be in the Rasdila, you have to get the blessed from Shiva as God Israel. So they get free from various obstacles to worship Krishna. Other devotees are going and worshipping Upeshwar Shiva. Shiva. Krishna realizes only one male in the heart and that's Krishna. Everyone else has to be a gopi. So then Shiva wanted to come that he could become a Gopi. For that he got transformed into a Gopi. This was singing around. He was given the job of being a Bakeeper. The Gobi is worship Pattayami form of Durga. In order to be Krishna as their husband. For the right things, what can worship the devas? One should be for the right thing and the right understanding that relationships ultimate Krishna is giving what he gives through assistance. It seems like somebody has a mixed loyalty to things that two supreme words. That's the problem for spiritual mind. The big obstacle this Muhammad as they understand that they want supreme heart. Don't have that confusion anymore. We want to leave all the devotees to become mahatmas. I was thinking that today is Christmas Eve. So the prophet once mentioned that Jesus was also a rationale. Then he says he was Shakta. He was preaching Bhavaga. And Prabhupada mentioned how he as a preacher he sacrificed. He took you as a Margaret in order to deliver so many people. But he also was comparing we don't know of course exactly what his original teachings are anymore some controversy over the editing of the Bible. But some are saying that he said only except those who he would follow. Whereas in the case of Lord Chaitanya I guess he said to everybody Va sutta prayed for the literance of everybody. He would take all their sins. He could be crucified, he could be put in hell. He could do whatever it was. He could take everybody's sins, let him suffer and everybody else can deliver now people who are surrendering the Krishna or trying to surrender but adequately and what you're telling us that why will you suffer like that just because of your desire Everyone will be delivered. So what is very intimidating spec is said to be another coating unlimited millions tens of millions of universes set one gets energy route goes back to magnetic plague. We're going now Christian preaching in India. We're doing Chennai at the Madras jail. We're doing five different jails in Tamil Nadu. We're also doing what's in public. So see how jail in belly t heart a big one. It's got thousands and thousands and tens of thousands of presidents. So we do regular programs in that jail also different parts of the so I personally went to the jail to preach. We don't have to go there otherwise we have almost 100 people coming. But they're warden it's been while let them dance. They thought dancing was immoral. And afterwards many of them came to me. Most of them said no, they were innocent. They're hoping to get their under trial. So they're hoping that they get blessing to be released once every son multimillionaire but he was there for some tax people. There's all kinds but it was remarkable that many of them were mentioning one person sincerely said that I'm actually in many ways ungrateful that I fell into jail because I got Krishna here. If I wasn't here I would say that you know this is my circle when I work with Krishna. But somehow here I got Krishna champion reading the Bible which is quite one person. He was like sentence. So we're all in this prison house of the material world and great souls that come down and they try to help us to get out of this material world. When you're in prison you get some special realization that you are compliant. And when you're out of the business you might think that you're free whole world is there for you to Enjoy. But there's just a bigger prison. Prisons within prison. So the real point is that we're supposed to get out of this prison by the Krishna conscious. So anyway, Aswadevati was praying for liberating everybody from this material prison and send them all back again. Krishna said he can do it. So the word comes down into this prison house, delivers this one God. So they do prison preaching and have that experience worrying addition to the prisoners. But not being imprisoned. They come out great Shamuyas you can be outside but interesting. So the great souls that are under the divine protection in one sense sometimes preaching is a thankless death. Not so many people appreciate the different mahatmas. Sometimes when they were present the name gets added report Jesus was present and saying that the gave. The Roman emperor gave a choice. You could have the man Barbarous who was a criminal free or Jesus free. And the people voted for Barbara and crucified Jesus something politics. Sometimes a difficult situation try to help people. But then when they're not appreciate hope this is telling me today have a tough day today because for New Year's Christmas Eve more people are under the influence of some places. When people get invoked here they become a little more narrow. But here they become more aggressive. They don't like to not so receptive to read the books. But I have this wonderful audience from Guyana who migrated to Canada just like many people migrated from different places. Guyana is in the South America, but in the Caribbean area. So there's huge expanse of land and they grow a lot of sugar cane and tropical things, mangoes. Most of the people there are from Bihar, originally from India, few from Tamil Nadu to different places who migrated there under the British rule. As people migrated in many places like Malaysia, Singapore, Beijing. Then Melissa. Guyana is writing a four place. So many of the people migrated to America and to Canada. So this person had migrated to Canada. He was a master welder. He was getting $40 an hour from Roanoke. So then in the weekend he was going to the publisher and he wrestled. And thanks to the cave he met one devotee who was distributing books offered him the Bible and Giva, he said. And then he went to some other publishers. Time maybe, I don't know was in the winter. So everyone it's cold here. I mean in December here it's summer and there it's winter. There it's like freezing cold minus 20. So when he came out from that pub just for Krishna the same devotee was there to to Samiya turned up. I'm just begging you very humble take this bar, you take whatever you want. Any good one now whatever, take it. I think you're a nice man. I want you in this barbecue. So he thought, here I am an immigrant of his country and here an ethnic Canadian is begging me, I reach the top. This must be a symptom of my success. Because carrying out then he later on found a Giza. And his must have been the month of January. Because when he opened up this briefcase and found a Gita and friend. Remember what he was doing when he started reading how God's Bharava Gila. Then it was like a big awakening from him and he got very inspired. And then he desired to go to the temple on the back of the temple. He went to the Toronto temple. And it just happened. It was Lithiananda's appearance day. And you know, for that day people there who was Kirkhan. So he joined in the Girtan dancing help serve aside. He memorized Bhagavad Gita. So he would preach to the good guy in his mind who made me blood. So this was the amazing thing Sikh Rao had making mahakas. He was somebody that was wasting their life working. Although he had a background, but by being alone from the family. You know, a country where people bring more. He got into that situation. But then he became complained about real association. He got awakened. So the book distribution also. However, one book saved something. You never know. One book can make such a big difference. My point on the goal is to distribute 108,000 Bangladeshion Mae had already distributed 32,000 so far this year in the last month. Very exciting. But how the one book made such a change in this person. And this person is so much his family members, his friends, many other grindings. But he was very, very active preacher. Now he's moved to Orlando and still preach. So we're out to make mahatmas. And normally it's not so easy to make mahatmas. Some Mahadmas come down from the spiritual world, some aren't made. What happened with following behind Lord? Some of the followers wanted to stop him, you know, being a fancy. And after all, John comes back to the sea mimicking you. You're asking, I mean, should we have stopped him or something Without a chance. At least it's under the influence of alcohol. And that will wear off by tomorrow. But you are channing high percentage and the benefit of that will stay within forever like that everywhere. I was told by he was working as some kind of accountant in one firm or many homes. One of his work colleagues picked up a Book from somebody in the street. That was George Harris champion. So he gave that to him at Iron Museum. I said George Harrison. Like George Harrison. They said his friend wasn't like a devotee or any normal interest. Normal young people had partying, girls, whatever. But he was. So I got the book, gave it to him. And when he got the book that he got very inspired with to see. See the temple just happened to be Rathyatra in New York, Rome. She actually saw Central Earth. So for discount Muvia. So some he got delivered by second. What's it called? Third party book. Somebody got the book. You never know. I don't have one. One disciple. When his uncle purchased a book and Ranbor somewhere came home, had the book in the living room. Then the nephew went to visit the house of the elephant. Borrowed the book. Borrowed their whole family. The first person who got the book didn't come to always all the nephews, all the brothers. It's like time bomb. Never know something new. One Bangalore. My life member till now got the light on which he got a whole set of books. They were on his shelf. And for three years he did read the books. This game is formation. Maybe it's a good class. Sometime he will visit some temple. I get some wife when they can stay at the guest house or something. Whatever. The monitor inspired him to give after two years. One day for some reason he said, I wanted to book Joe Baham. Anyway, started reading the bhai with him. He was the Brahmin by birth. And he must every day during puja his mother was altered. You never know who was supreme. Thought that I'll put everybody there. And I found the head the way. When he read the Prophet's book, he said it's so clear. Krishna is supreme. D. And his name was also Krishna. But you never know that Krishna was supreme. The wrong kind of evil. And that was very clear. So dawn his whole family chanced to see her arms and shelter. Some had the other shame. After three years, it's all sitting there. So the prophet is sort of their man. Wiltered Muhammad are not deluded. Most people are deluded. Amber. Ask some student what's the purpose of life? Purpose? Graduate, get a job, get married. Yeah, but then gold, diet and whistle. What's the purpose of the whole thing? I didn't think about that too much. I gotta pass my finals, I gotta get a job and so many other things I'm worried about. Right. But where are they actually headed? Where they bring the whole thing for literally Indians. But this is a type of Indian who let us speak of. Let's just have a good time. I don't know. Some people have making a lot of money for the purpose now to make more money, build more buildings, buy bigger yachts, have a better pen house with nice bigger parties. When they live, somebody said they have a party and spend $500 ahead for the caterpillar from there tell you what to eat. People, they don't know how to do it. I was just reading this morning decision paper. One lady, after 17 years of faithful association. I kept writing and she phoned her kid for $50,000. 50,000, which is named 65 or more. More positive. So now she's got little kitty, same exact pimples, birthmarks. But it is unknown. By being so much attached to the problem of soldiers, the cats are interested in. If you want to have children, you have a cat in the house. The cats can see whether the lady mother is pregnant. They have like some subtle vision. They can see ghosts and things. That's why when their cat runs across your path, it's considered bad luck. Because they chase ghosts doesn't mean the cat's not the bad luck. It's the ghost. The ghost. People say I go, so maybe that I can see. That's what people say anyway, they're supposed to see the the baby knows that when the baby is born, the baby's going to get all the affection, all the cuddling and petting and everything that I get won't get anymore. So that the cat curses the mother to have a miscarriage. So if you have a cat and you have miss Curse, you want to have a baby, get rid of your cat, send the cat away to. The point is, people want to get so attached to everyone like that, spend so much money than when they die. People don't know what the purpose of life is. They spend all their heart and energy giving so much attraction to their family members. Who better step up? But then still just people exploit one family, protect to care one family and the next one to another family. And that also makes them very much conditioned. So proverbs are encouraging them to be Vi Householders who have a spiritual purpose in their life. There's two types of Vihasta households, the Pihamedis and Vihastas. Pihamedis just based on personal and extended Sanskritification. Everybody should be essentially happy. And the Gyaskas everybody should be essentially Krishna conscious and essentially attracted. But see that everybody gets liberated. Krishna is in the center or sense gratification is in the center. The green of maybe his nature. Of every other grandma. The great Asta is to be compassionate and want to deliver and done every asset of unconditional household. This went to a new country in the Middle east for the first time where there are some devotees who are working here, some people who are working there, one or two divorces. And because we requested them when they went there that they should start house programs. And it's very much restricted. Although you're allowed in that country to do a program in your house. But if you disturb the neighbors then you get deported. So you're risking your whole life on the things and chances. So but still they took their list and they were preaching there for about three years. I went there and there was about 50 people chanting on Krishna. 20 people took Siksha levels. So let us be Hasta actually trying to help other people to be Ka consciousness or Mahatma way to become Mahatma is by acting like this to try to help other people to be Krishna to take that sacrifice. I would tell people to be very careful. Don't take answer but try to give up Krishna something very grateful to see how Krishna is ready. And also just on the way here I went to Thailand for the first time. All this my zone. But there's nothing going on in the world very much. But recently more regularly there's a couple of disciples there who came from study in the Thai university. Quite a number of people I just was there for in transit for less than 24 hours. And about 30 people came to see me looking upon the land. So like this I'm trying to encourage everybody before the biddest one Mahatma, one great soul that they would empower others to preach the crawl part of the city. Great Mahatma came brought Krishna conscious one. But he didn't want to keep it to himself. He wanted that we should also be preachers of the spread Krishna consciousness. Take care of both wild beings and other beings. Just like Goliath was preaching to his school friends. Mahatmas are fully engaged in devotional service. They know me as the supreme personality of original and example. So we're teaching people how to be fully engaged in devotional service. Halloween where they has the life and how to lead their lives in such a way that everything is engaged in Christian service. I want to thank all the Mahatmas here. Any questions? Any other experiences you have of some bitching victims? We pass it to the attach everything in Vishnu. It's very hard to detach. Detach is like unnatural. Attaching is easier. So what we want to do is attach everything. Whatever you Drink material, attach it to Krishna, do it for Krishna and then if you start doing it more than anything for Krishna those things that you can't do for Krishna is those things you want to do gets from. But more or less 80, 90% everything you can do for Krishna only thing you can do is get drunk for Ka chant har Krishna ideal thing would be to use it for Krishna service. But even then you're allowed Sunday. But if someone doesn't have so much income or they take energy with a big house and they're working double shifts, double triple jobs at a certain point it becomes what they call uber karma which is like over endeavor. You don't need that. You have to see what your needs are, what you actually need. As soon as they come, they said you sit down and read the Japan people living in a little guy's house. Baba and I went to this one place. There was no road. We had to go like nail and boat for two hours we went by boats. Then from one last a big boat to a small boat going inside those canal and there somewhere in the middle of lonely or whatever three hours from the nearest rows where the silo grass hut. There's no electricity everything hand pumps and they cook us a 20th preparation 20 sub G's 3 cordials tea, 8 sweets serving all relational living in a grass hut in the middle of the jungle. But you know, it's like quite in bold place. You know what we consider to be the infrastructure of the modern civilization. So if you use whatever you have, if you use for Krishna use your have a percentage worked out. If Krishna sees that well they're going to use whatever I give them for Krishna just like they're for Subharma. He was given a palace and they use the position. The Krishna sees that you're going to get a big house, get all worked up, pay huge mortgages. You're going to stop sharing your job right now and forget about worshiping me, forget it. You have to keep your priority how to be Krishna consciousness so how to do that. So right now things like that take care of your family, your children and everything. So then how to balance it? You have to work then if you get a R, you have to be realistic the best. We have a goal in life. We have a goal. We want to be fishing practice. So we don't want to take it further. You with NASA, you never know whether you die in the meantime or you go back after 30 years or five years. You have to keep on anyway. I'm trying to keep a better Base for my disciple. The way they move around in the houses here, it's not a difficult thing. Have one house, you get more money later. Go to bigger house. Just put this one as shopping. Dubai. Dubai shop. Just so happened that in everyone whenever you buy something over a certain amount and give you your seat and it's automatic. You don't even enter. It's just automatic. Enter, automatic. She won a card. $70,000 card. She's not going to send me bills about my card. So if I'll do it, I'll sell it. Put my daughter fun away for my daughter to go to college. Give so much to Krishna. Whatever. She had a plan. She asked about this. Well, you didn't gamble. You didn't gamble but you didn't invest. You. You. Just when I was flying over here, all the airline agents kind of didn't do what they told me they were going to do. And ended up charging me a lot more for my ticket than when I was paying. So I was thinking again, I'm wasting Christian's money and never even paid as much from Australia what to do? I was going to get around the world ticket but it didn't work out. And then they had a raffle in the airplane. I gave away three tickets. And somehow I wonder it. So with it, whatever comes, the point of what comes must be a reasonable labor. We use that for Krishna sometimes you may get a bonus. You may get some breakthrough. It should not affect us. In case we do not get. Should it affect us? First billionaires, a businessman. But then he would have then put all his energy in his business. But he did a business on maintenance mode to maintain his family and everything. But he gave a lot of time for his preaching and book publishing and everything as a great. So because of that he sacrificed the opportunity of making a lot more money. They made that decision that I don't want to give up my Krishna consciousness for the sake of just making a lot of money. Oh, that's just Srira. He made that same decision. People don't know themselves. You don't worship the Gandhi savior money and ask. Thank you for watching our videos. Be sure to subscribe to our channel. We publish new videos every day. And don't forget to like and share our channel.
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