20050203 || Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.3.7 || Atlanta, USA #JayapatakaSwamiArchives

A spoken lecture by Jaya Pataka Swami (recorded in Atlanta) contrasting ritual yajna (sacrificial ritualism) with bhakti (devotional service). The speaker emphasizes devotion as the core means to please the Supreme, illustrates this with scriptural examples (King Nambi, Lord Chaitanya) and numerous contemporary festival and outreach examples worldwide (Panihati/Mayapur festivals, Russia, Middle East, South Africa, Malaysia, USA). Practical topics include festival organization, prasadam distribution, congregational growth strategies, and adaptive preaching methods for different cultures and situations.
Of your exalted personality. You exalted personality by performance of sacrifice. By performance of sacrifice encumbered by Mashbar Familiar we can see. We have engaged in your worship with many things and have offered sacrifices unto you. But we think that there is no need for so many arrangements to please your lordship. Translation repetition. We have engaged in your worship with many things and have offered sacrifices unto you. We think that there is no need for so many arrangements. Please your lordship. Reported by Srila Prabhupada. He will accept them. Bhakti devotional service is the main way to satisfy the supreme personality of God. It is not a question of arranging huge sacrifices. The priests were regretful thinking that they were not on the path of devotional service and that their sacrifice was not pleasing to the Lord. Your devotees, you're certainly ready satisfied when your devotees offer your prayers with faltering voices and in ecstasy bring your tulsi leaves water. So this makes you satisfied. This is Lord Vishnu appearing in the sacrificial arena of King Navi. It King Nabi was a great devotee of the Lord for the king. He needed to have a prince to send him for keeping on the line. So he did a ceremony, a ritual sacrifice. It says that actually the real important thing was that he was a pure devotee. That's why the prayers and worship and everything offered with great faith and devotion caused the war to come. Now the priests are even embarrassed because they feel that when we did all the rituals and there's seven different types of aspects for a ritual. Sacrificing valuable things and edibles, acting in term of place, acting in terms of time, offering hymns, going through the priests, offering gifts to the priests, observing many other principles. The thing that really, I mean that is quite rare that Krishna himself comes. They actually came and personally he blessed everybody and says that that was because Nambi was such a great devotee. But see, this verse is like the priests, they're praying, they're feeling overwhelmed that we do all these things to worship you. But we feel that what's really needed is devotion, which is one thing advanced in that devotion. It was of course, if somebody has the capacity and they have devotion, obviously they're going to make an elaborate arrangement. When Lord Chaitanya went to see Advaitacharya's arrangements for worshiping his guru at Shantipur, we observed the Shantisu festival there. In Chaitanya Bhagavad. It says that we went around and saw the elaborate arrangements that Advaita Charya had made. A Super festival for the disappearance day of Madhavindra Puri, his virtual master. And that he got everybody engaged in different services. Some people were doing kirtan, some people were reading bhagavatam. Some people were starting with receiving the guests, giving them garlands, sandalwood. Last year at Mayapur, the Chopati devotees, you know, different Mayapur devotees came and they tried to give up a special reception to all the people coming for the festival. And it's really people like that. It adds a whole different flavor. So this is a part of organizing a nice festival. We have nice festivals here in Atlanta. Panihati festival. I don't know how much we do reception of the people, but maybe an area that we give Prashad. We're pretty happy. But I mean, have some programs more or less keep to the schedule. Advaita Sharia here, the super reception. Some people not only do they give them garlands and sandalwood, but they bathe their feet. I don't know in America how they like that you want to bathe your feet. They think my feet are dirty. Because in those days people would walk barefoot or with some kind of wooden shoes or something. And there was dirt roads, so your feet would be dusty. So you go and sit inside the assembly to listen to Bhagavatam class or something and you'd have your dusty feet. So tradition was to bathe the feet. I think even Jesus in the Bible had feet bathing, right? I remember bathing something like for a long time, I seem to remember that Jesus bathed the feet of his apostles, things like that. So there was a custom of bathing the feet in olden times. Now if we bathe somebody's feet and it becomes a big thing, right? But I mean, it's in the Bible that foot bathing was going on. We're just keeping a traditional line. I think the Pope bates the kisses and bathes the feed of the cat. They know that before they do that because I don't know so much about it. But it seems like Jesus was showing his extreme humility and he did some sampling like that. Although normally the Ella visiting guests, the guru Maui, we do sometimes Shahruz in some kind of place. But it was there everybody was having a deep paint. Then there was. The women were engaged in the decorations and making preserved artistic. And they also were in the kitchen and all different kinds of cooking arrangements. Then he had so many ingredients for cooking. They would have measured these ingredients not in like kilos like we have for the Paninati festival cave. Two little baskets of raspberries and two boxes of mangoes or something, you know, for the Chiradoy, they got menu. Every year Mahaemuna goes around and purchased all the things. But different people donated here. It was like measured in houses. They made little grass huts and filled them up so there would be, you know, so many huts filled with yogurt. So many huts filled with 12 huts filled with leaf plates to keep all the ingredients. And the whole village came up just with all huts and all the fruits and vegetables. Then the people were cutting all those things. So when Lord Chaitanya came and looked around him, he was ignoring all the point. One after another. He said, this is first of all, no human being can do all this. This is like Amanushik. This is beyond human capacity to put together such a festival. And then he said, it must be that each Shiva, he's a transcendental Lord, he's not a human being. Because of course, Advaita is a combined form of Mahavishna and Sadha Shiva. So that and Krista Vaishnav, Jataya Sambudhe Gaya devotee they had. The man saw everything, all so many things going on. And then he was Kirtan and Hojitan joining me. Kirtan brought him over after the offer of the boba and then said, don't take Vasana. He got so ecstatic. He just said, anybody who comes enlisted Titi. Titi means, you know, the lunar anniversary of this Titi and takes prasadam here. You will get your devotion for Govinda. That's how we go every year. We do our Paniha Naganya with a Shanti court festival on that Titi Govinda Bharat to get love for Krishna by eating like this also. When I first came here 20 years ago in Umayyad Sara's benefit, more than 20 years. I came in 1980. They told me this is Nubanihatidam. Prophet gave the name Dupanihatidam. So that's far out. So do you have a Chirudrai festival here? And they said, Chirudrai festival? What's that? We heard about Yiddish in scripture. So then they didn't know I know exactly how to do it or anything. So since we've been doing it already in Mayapur for the Panihati, the real Panihati. So we had some experience in making mouth shavogas. So then we decided to put together a little festival here. And I said, while we're here together, we should remember Prabhupada's pastimes here. Because he Visited this place. And he had for a number of days. His pictures were there in the back. You can see pastimes here where he was when the first time he. I mean, nowadays it's hard to get all the old veterans to come back and share their somewhere. If someone goes to all my old Tate ministry, then you could get those. Because we recorded the different pastimes to try to get them all together. Put all the pastimes together over the years. Probably one day on Sunday, while I'm cooking the churan, they used to have a loudspeaker that worked in the kitchen. We would hear also in there in the pastimes. And we would Leela Smarna on Prabhupada Praeth's pastimes here. Especially here, brother. And I remember they would tell how people were chanting kirtan when Prabhupada was here. And you see this one picture somewhere. I don't know if it's here, but there's one picture where you see one person. You see literally his belly button above somebody else's head. It's pretty hard to jump that high. You gotta be Olympic jump or something. Jump that high up. But that was the kind of people were like floating. It was like so much energy was there. It was like this picture. We see a shaman and it's like that people said they were just like exploding and jumping high in the air. And. And then Prabhupada was chanting that swam parama karuna pahudui jana nitaigora Chandra crying. Taught all devotees how to chant it. So it was so many things were happening and then people were the normal kind of pastime where somebody goes, why is there always smell fresh paint? And always the hour before you arrive, just finish painting his room or something. But I can't remember all the different pastimes, but different devotees that did their perception realization. And Prabhupada said, this is the best temple. Of course, what happened that time? Radharma Darparki was here. There was a lot of. Everybody from the whole east coast came here. And then Prabhupada, just after coming from. I think it was Caracas in Mexico City, came here. Miami. Miami. But it was after the Latin America landing. So that time they all came here and converged and they had like a weekend festivities would go. But he started Bhakti Vedanta Institute. You can see the picture there of young. He's very young when he was still just in college. So a lot of different things are happening here. Of course, at that Time I was in India, but I was happy to hear the different devotees sharing. So how to create a festivity here and how to create some kind of a culture here. Panihati. Then it will definitely have a chira Dwight fat rice and yogurt. Because here it's America, everything's more optimistic. Here you get fruits from all over the world. Like in India. You get mangoes and leeches and few fruits. Maybe jackfruit and bananas, but even that's just according to what's in season. But here you get the mangoes from Mexico, you get the peaches from the local. This is peachland. Then you get, you know, dry fruits from all kinds of dry fruits. And you have cherries, all kinds of different fruits coming to America. Locally grown as well, that's imported. So we started making different flavors with different kinds of fruits. Like we would do in India. We'd make malchevo with yogurt with condensed milk. But there wasn't so many varieties of fruits. But here you get big variety. A few years ago we started a salad, salty chirudoi, which is quite popular. When my mother came in and she said, why are you giving all this chirudoi Frigga? You should auction it. So we started auctioning and one year Abhorishpaku was here and he offered the bid. 400, 500, 600 went up, went over a thousand dollars for one pot of Chiradoya. Now it's regularly that it grows over a thousand since he broke the buried, buried mount. If someone pledges an advancement, if they whatever is not pledged, there's a few pots that we auction off. It's quite common. Somewhere during the auction someone. Two people want the same pot so badly. The auction goes up to over 1200. So that helps to finance the vestibule. But like that, this Panihati rabbit said is one of the eternal Dhs. The Lord Chaitanya is a journey residing in Panyati. So just like you have Vrindavan and you have Mayap Manpur and Jagannathuri and Dwarka. But then also Panihati is actually terminal down. So I don't know how I hope that. And then generations and the yugas that come, the devotees will somehow keep up with Baninathi's spirit Prabhupada. In his original charter for iskcon, he said that we should make. One of our purposes in ISKCON is to make places of the transcendental pastimes of the Lord. I don't remember that paraphrase. I can't Remember the exact wording, but something dedicated to the Tantal pastimes of the Lord. So the heroic Prabhupada gives a name to the place that gives us an opportunity to dedicate some pastimes. Panihati was of course famous for a number of things. The Chirudrai festival is a focal point. But also it was the house of Raghava, Pandev and Damayanti who are super cooks. So it's important I think here that we have good feasts. He loved the Paramihatu tradition. I don't think anybody minds that. But this requires some cooking dedication. But that's one of the things about Panihati. God did tonam the Bodhara and heavenly speaks not only the pani or not only the cheer Draikis. But many times he would go. Other thing that happened was that was this place where Bhatyananda first started Namha preaching. Later he made his headquarters in Navudya with Surabhi Kunshava. When he came back from Jagannathuri, he started his Bengal preaching initiative at Anihatu. So it would be those who are hoping that we could see the congregation. They spend more and more here. It's always been active, but America is a little bit slow congregationally compared to some of the other places. I don't know what's the secret to do that. What's the secret together going. But it's going. I mean it's going. It's not that it's not going. It's going different places and. But like I was just in Moscow and they're trying to build up their congregation to have, you know, over 108 groups. The last time I was there a few months ago, they had 20 groups and now they're up to 30. But they feel it. Moscow feels it's a bit slow for them, but so they're trying, but. And then in America you don't have cities that have 20, 30 groups. They're not focused like that very much. You have some cities with one group like that, there was no temple, there's a group like the Namah, etc. You have big congregations to come to the temples. But Bhakti versus counselor groups or even Namah is something that could be developed. I know that a lot of shinigas was able to set up a Rajiviksha group in the Gulfport area. Above all middle class American people. And they still need to. They're still Ka conscious. So if it shows that it can be done, just gotta penetrate the Mitchell Ice at the meeting in balance this year. And we had a breakup in the different committees to address different initiatives. So I was on the committee who were non lockdown with the Ramaswamy and several other devotees. So we made a plan in the next couple of years one to double all nahati solving then we can do is give you the score sheet. So you got to get it immediately now get a report and send it in for annual rewards ceremony and then. But that will give you a benchmark. You know what you have. What's happening now? This is our yajna. I was just thinking because we're talking about yajnas here that Nabi Maharaj had a big yagya. This yagya was already Karma Khanda when yagya to have a child because he was a king and child. And the priests were feeling are praying here. They're feeling embarrassed that they are not really having so much devotion. They just did it all ritualistically. But the Lord came and the previous verse says because he had pure devotion. Sri Krishna pure yagya, Sankirtan yagya which means few times festivals, namahatas and so many things. I was here this morning. When you have your core group who does all the needy worship. There's a lot of energy goes into the daily puja. I think the congregation doesn't appreciate how much effort goes into maintaining a daily program for the deities. And that somehow everybody can buy into that participate in that yajna. That's our panchayatric site here on the temple. I mean you serve the Lord, the Lord's here. But and the idea that pleases Gornyatai here preside in deities which is very rare. There's a panihati Gorenatai are currently residents. So they put gornyanaya in the center where they worship. They're being worshipped as personality backhead and spanship devotees. I was thinking that there's so much could be done. They were just in the Middle east and there they have so many restrictions on preaching. There's so many difficulties because in the Middle east we have a situation where were mainly preaching to the Indian and the southern Asian expatriates at work there. Because of the linguistic and legal difficulties of preaching to the locals who are. It gets highly illegal to preach to proselytize to anybody really especially Deutsche Muslim. You're in big trouble if you lost a listen. So all the time Christians get deported. It's just a non starter. So where we're constant there's so many foreigners that work there. So they try to figure, they figure out how can they expand. And the pati rishas expand on their own organically. But then you have also problems that people lose their jobs. There's a certain kind of a situation. They try to give jobs to the local Arabs and so then they replace the expense with the local and they lose their job. So you get somebody trained up for years together and then they get, they lose their job and they go back to Muslim country. So you lose 30% a year. Even 20, 30 is like a big number. Big percent could shift or they have at least an apprehension and they could lose no job. So it says that when you're stable it's either four or more things to do this. But in spite of all that, they're growing. One area has 126 groups, 2,3000 pneumonias and they want to double it this year. But they grow not only vertically but they also grow horizontally. They have people go out. They found that there's a lot of labor camps and these labor camps are poor people, minimum wage, below minimum. But somehow I met one place that was in the Middle east and one of the Pakistani managers, he allowed us to have one room where they could have kirtans and have their weekly prayer meetings and they gave. So they find that amongst first, poor people tend to be a little more religious. So they have a lot of poor people now. I mean they're relatively poor still. They're Middle East. But they may get $200 a month, which for India is a lot. I mean for them, for India it's not too bad. It's for poor cars, poor people. But it's for that for the Middle east it's just a hand to mouth every day. But they get their place to stay, they get their food and then they. What they get from the salary is proper, they can send home and we pay their family. So that way. But they had all the time in the world. They had no money to blow. Rich people go to hotels and then spend money with these people. So they found that they opened up a huge number of people chanting amongst the relatively economically struggling. Then they found that by opening up different linguistic groups they. You have people from different parts of the world. And if you have bhakti bhiksha meetings in their own language, then they like to participate in that. Even if they know English. Some people like English that is called English ones. But some people like to talk in their mother tongue. It's fun. So they go to those ones and that way you invite, get more people, new people Come just because oh there's a program in my language. So then they go. So they must have about eight, nine different regular classes. Like almost like the Maya professor. You have eight, nine different languages being translated. Whenever I go for a joint program. So somehow they're scraping, they're using what's the areas that we couldn't expand here. Like Atlantis, a very unique place. It's a cosmopolitan place, pretty mellow place. You have all kinds of ethnic groups. You have a large Latin community. You have a large Indian community. You have a large Afro American community which is a very powerful community here politically the majority of us terms of the mayors are usually recommended because then you have your. The Russian, the big Russian community. Then you have your normal. Whatever. Whatever normal Americans mean whatever. You have your whatever Roman Catholics. So having some programs here we have our devotees. We have so many devotees here from. From Mayanpur dying this way. Losing the job. Losing the jobs at the airports. Yeah yeah. Anyway, there seems like lots of opportunities to go out due to. That's one way is set go grant here for the different groups or just different festivals. Somehow the Sankirtan Yogya. So like they just invited me to come over to Russia for. Because they have a crisis there that they lost their temple. Temple was destroyed. Right. But they also got a moulah from the government. Empty land doesn't help too much in 15 minus 15 degrees weather. For why don't you translate for Gandha? She don't understand half of what I'm saying. Russian preaching. So they have a periodic Greek festival where they rent a hall and invite everybody and so to try to keep everybody enthused because they don't have the regular weekly Sunday feast program in the same way that they had before. So I came up for the three day festival today. I was there for two days days that over a thousand people came. They had to rent all paying a thousand dollars but they got the money back by people paying $2 at trans. So just as like there's all the paraphernalia for Yagya. It says the time, place, circumstance was a seven different paraphernalia sacrificing valuable things and edibles. We have a prasadam acting in terms of place. What's our place? What's the situation here? What's the opportunities that exist in terms of time according to the particular time we are in 21st century Internet different things. That is like one disciple of mine is doing a Spanish bhakti Shastri course from Argentina. He's got Spanish people all over the world taking this practice astra and offering hymns. We have our hymns going through the priests. Well, we do different things. To the leading devotees, Dakshina to the priests supporting the temple as part of the yajna. Supporting the priests and the temple worship. Observing regulative principles. Our son Kirtan Gandhi, we have also the same principles. But here what's more important is also the bhakti, Chandani and bhargat. When he first went back to Bengal, he just got everybody to chant Amarasai Indirumna at the Woodstock festival. All these young people go for rock and roll and everything. And he's got one booth where it all sells Indian stuff. In one corner they got drums. So there's always like 10 booths to sit down there with these bamboos and different shaped drums. Start all beating drums. People like drum beats. Just having Hari mountains with lots of drums. People like it. Introduce different kinds of drums. What's his name? African drums or Caribbean. They call them Congos Jubilee. So what is the place and what is the things that are going to be attractive to people? Like, I was just at the festival in Bairun Bay. As I talked about last night, how they had this rath Yatra New Year's Eve, taking the Jagannatharat. Everybody's in the street trying to enjoy some crazy way, here comes the rath y. Come on, pull the rod. They start pulling the rods. Yeah. And they got a. The swamis have to have like a circle around them because there was one Bhakti Madhav, what's his name? Bisran. He was there in the church and then he saw that some young reveler tried to come up and hug me because that's the word. Everybody hugs him, but I have my cord in it and my phalanx. When we saw that, he got freaked out and then he ran up and jumped up on top of the body. Just too heavy there. There's an old lady that comes every year and stands behind the rock when people try to climb up the rut. She has a broom. She has like a cane or something. And taps. Behave. I didn't know because I'm a friend. I met her at the end. I said, oh, I come here every year. It's my 12th year or something. I keep them from climbing up to that. But you get the people. The people love to sing in dance. One lady came up to Ramaya Swami and told him, thank you so much for being here because you come here every year. And I heard some people saying that this is really the spirit of New Year's festival. They were going to not go this year because it's a big expense and some of the leaders were doing a rock and roll festival catering instead. And when the city council heard, they wrote a personal letter requesting them please come and do it on the we had to go and ask and go they're asking us 50,000 people at least on the street. So it's different environments. You know, it's got a big strobe light in the town that turns yellow and green, different colored lights. It's kind of not the normal and a disco route but that's the time and the place. Everything's very respectful and people got these muscle men pulling the rocks. You guys go around the world and saw the different kind of environments in different places. The of course the Malaysian they were preaching to the Indian community and they have in Kuala lumpur they have 57 Narmatas last year and this year they have 90. So they almost doubled it. But then in tunein they started something new. They started preaching to the Chinese people which I've been telling them to do, but they haven't been doing it. They've been really. They almost had one Chinese group in Kuala Lumpur but they never expanded. But now in Penang and expanded four Chinese groups last year was 1, 2, now 4. And this year the Ramata Rat was all Chinese people calling the Subaru. So it's really nice to see Chinese devotees just like that time and place. I don't know why they chose. They got the Goddess of Mercy. They have a Goddess of Mercy Subhadra looks like the Goddess of Mercy. Subhadra is the most merciful. Subhadra Deviki. So by the way we got. It was amazing. You know, the tsunami came which was such a disastrous thing. And our temple is not so far from the ocean side in Penang. But the water came within 100 meters of our temple and stopped and turned back. And then our temple in Chennai is 500 meters from the beach. It's just, you know, Chennai Ichambakam. Ichambakam. But the golden beach. So I have the golden beach but some other side of the road. But also it didn't. Didn't get hit by the water. It didn't reach. So we were Krishna saved even though they were very close to the water. So now they're distributing. They're distributing prasadam. They still are in Sri Lanka but the people are actually beginning themselves more and more together the living how much you can distribute prashada every month or two until they get their noses and that. But then they found that the fishermen, not all the fishermen liked it. Some places they like vegetarian food. So I can put. They want. So initially, when they're really hungry, they don't like to. So they hadn't focused. But they found that people were being traumatized and that they appreciated the kidney. So, I mean, some ladies told me in Chennai that they couldn't sleep by the beach where their houses were all destroyed, even if they put up a little hut, that they're just too afraid to wake up and see our sun swept away by a gigantic winding on a cycloph. So they stay there all day by the beach, but they go out to sleep far away. They still have nightmares. So the kirtans are being highly appreciated, soothing them, spilling them. So they loved it in kirtan. They found that a lot of Russian devotees slow down in Sri Lanka and they're doing kirta. And then now they say that, well, for the long range, they have an orphanage run by ladies. The wife of the president has a group of ladies that runs the orphanage. And there's a tsunami orphans. So they're going to get maybe over 100 orphans from the tsunami whose parents were lost because the Christian missionaries, in the name of these big ox families. I don't know which groups are doing it, but some of the Christian groups do. And they take the orphans and they convert them into. They're all Hindu orphans, Buddhist orphans. They make them change their religion. So some of the local groups are upset because, you know, name of charity, they're not taking advantage of it. So they're very happy that we're giving an alternative so people nearest to kid can select which they don't mind. Okay. But at least they have a choice. So they're thinking to use time, place, circumstances, that the people have enough food, if they have real surplus money, use it to maintain the orphans. The tsunami orphans created fund for them, at least for some years, which is also food relief, feeding them. You have them in the houses that really do. One Buddhist lady, a movie star, donated the land and the house for the orphanage that they go into a children's family home or something. So it's like in different places, you know, there's different opportunities that the rulers take. In South America, the devotees, Namhakta's bhakti rickshaw groups are expanding about 10, so 6 to 10 in Peru, in Lima, other different places. There were 30 in Argentina. They now had to put on the rathiatra. And when the science they didn't know how to build the telescopic rocks introduced them technological Jayananda Google designed the telescopic raft. They didn't know how to do telescopic, so the rock wasn't so tall. In India they have special designs for different sizes, roughs. So like this around the world you find different situations, different. The Prabhupada, when he was preaching, teaching, he heard that there are no snakes. And he was talking about a gigantic multi headed snake somewhere dragon or something like that in the water. So it sounds like Kaliya. And where there's Kaliya then there's no snakes. So that's why Prabhupada established the Kaliya ka temple in Fiji. Recently Bar Krishna installed another degree. Mother temple was huh. Another island, another place. He would have. Well, he did it, but the locals did it. He was there as knowledge. You can see there in that case. So like all over the world, this sacrifice is mainly taking advantage of what are the possibilities that are available. What's interesting is that in New York I don't know if they still do it, but for some time Omoplat had a mirage and a flatbed truck with the Howie Gnome Queener on the sea. Long time ago. Long time ago. That would be. Rather than just be in one, you know, just be in one downtown area. How many people Cities are now sprawling and spread out having that thing. If it's legal, you can do a legal group license. Get someone that's runs for the beds to fire out. We do harinam. 12 people go through the whole town. You know, you get stuck in a traffic jam like a float. You can enter it in the New Orleans and it's another float. Yeah, or like we do the Mardi Gras. They have this cruise where they have the gigantic tracks all the youths put together every year they just special floats, they're called proofs and with a different theme and paint it. And we join them to the parade. And you're allowed to have loudspeakers and you have kirtan going. And it's always very popular. People there have this tradition that they want you to throw them things, beads and trinkets. So their mantra is Throw me something. Hey mister, throw me something. So then people have little signs that say chin Hare Krishna. Then people say Hare Krishna. Hare Krishna. You got thousands of people saying Hare Krishna. If you want to get the throw, throw something with us. You're going to jam Hare Krishna. It's about time and place to get everybody to chant. It's unusual to see Americans raise their kids anyway. They raise their hand and get you the throw something. Oh, everyone's name is. I'll raise their hand. So then you get on the channel raised. They said Hare Krishna. Hare Krishna. So it's like gas and creepy. They're raising their hand. One time he saw some people dressed up. They all wear a different fancy dress. One dressed up is the Hari Krishna. Then they thought they came up homicides. But that's complimenting it for a moment. Nice. If it's so sad. We're also find out things. West America is Rathiantra throughout the whole states every weekend in different place. That's a unique, unique thing. They do the same thing. They do a similar thing and they're exactly the same thing. But they do also have multiple rafiators in Malaysian move the different raths around. But here we're doing the whole festival. Gigantic traffic that's quite unique in the world with all the youth playing the ball. Naikanaz Vordaz is doing a youth tour in South America, in Peru and Bolivia. He's trying to do it off his success right now. They do on Easter Sunday, Bhagavad Gatra and it's in the beach of Durban, South Africa. They have these youth from Kenya. They have their AIDS orphans in South Africa. Africa over Africa people have eights. Some countries it's like huge percentage. I don't remember right now. It's like 50%, 40% are HIV positive. So the number of people dying from AIDS is just. So you get AIDS orphans. So there's a orphanage set up by the Hindus, the Kissimon. Some devotees are there. What's his name? So Fabuna got these kids. There's one Uganda devotee who's a good rap singer. So he taught them all rap. You probably saw the video or something. So they were performing down in South Africa. They did many devotional raps. And then they did the one on AIDS orphans which is. Were more like social little touch of devotion, but more of just the people. The African people that were there. There were so many women praying. AIDS kills killed our damned kill. But this, this is our kids. We were on the street. We're roaming around now we pick him up. We're chanting Hare Krishna and have a better life. But be careful. What be careful Surround just the fact was this how that kind of music was. It was very impressive to the local people. I think that they did a tour even North America. They had probably tremendous support for the organization. It's really creating awareness just how different time in the Kaaba when he was present. He was telling the hippies. Chandra Krishna be happy. Chandra Krishna get high. He used the kind of language and the kind of people could relate with at that time. I think they were not adapting enough in America to the situation. That's why he ran Anamarj. He wanted to have my dilation preaching or different types of preaching that would have a little more broad vision on the broad spectrum. But he had also, I agree that he had to preach in a way that people will appreciate. And he has that vision for this temple also. But how do I actually do that? Who God is, who God is preaching, who God is. All religions are believed in one God are good. But what is the most complete religion? The one that knows who that God is? Yes. More scientific actually. How to pull that together. The concept is good, but then there's so many things I can tell. Usually this thing works by trial and error. You get an idea, you try it, it works it a little bit, works a little bit. And then again after refine it, do a little more, you get the right time, you get people, something clicks, you know. Then what happens when you get something that works after? Eventually it wears out becomes. Sometimes it wears out, you have to do something different or you try one thing, it doesn't work. You don't give up, keep trying other like learn from what. Why didn't it work? Why did it initially work and later it didn't work. One of the interesting things I saw in South Africa in Cape Town is they have. They started a bhakti yoga club for the Cape Town University. Cp, Cape Town ctu. And in order to get a hall from the university, there's a certain number of members. So because during their Wednesday meetings or the tour, twice a Tuesday, Thursday or Wednesday, two, once or twice a week, they meet, they give people free crusade. So therefore they use sign up when the freshman year you get to join the club. So they have people go around here where they sign up. So they got enough people that sign up and they get a halt and they all go to a prasada. Then what they did is they got permission to give a kiosk for their members to provide them with the vegetarian food. Because we're a vegetarian yoga food, the Devhakti Yoga Club. So they get one Kiyat scandal for like 12 grand. $2 for a huge plate of bright styles. So then that became a big hit. That was the best facade, best bargain for food on, on the campus. So everybody started joining the Black to Yoga club. You pay $3 a year and you remember back to the yoga club and get your card. 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