20070128 || Śrīmad Bhāgavatam Class || Balarāmadeśa #JayapatakaSwamiArchives

A recorded Śrīmad Bhāgavatam class (YouTube) featuring chanting and a lecture focused on the necessity of a bona fide spiritual master (guru), the disciplic succession (sampradāya), and practical instructions about initiation (diksha) and instruction (siksha). The speaker praises AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, recounts historical Gaudiya-Vaishnava anecdotes (Srinivas, Gadadhar, Jiva Goswami, Rupa and Sanatana Goswamis), and advises devotees about qualifications for gurus and the attitude of service to Krishna through His devotees.
हरे कुष्णा हरे कुष्णा कुष्णा कुष्णा हरे.
हरे.
हरे राम राम राम हरे हरे हरे अरे राम, अरे राम, राम, राम, अरे राम, अरे चिष्णा, अरे चिष्णा, चिष्णा, चिष्णा, अरे राम, अरे राम, राम, राम, अरे राम, अरे चिष्णा, अरे राम, अरे.
राम.
राम, राम, अरे चिष्णा हारे मिष्णा, हारे मिष्णा, किस्ता, किस्ता, हारे, हारे, हारे, राम, हारे, राम, राम, राम, हारे, हारे, मिष्णा رم رم رم رم رم رم.
رم.
हारे खिष्णा, हारे खिष्णा, हारे खिष्णा.
हारे खिष्णा, हारे खिष्णा, हारे खिष्णा, हारे.
खिष्णा, हारे खिष्णा, हारे खिष्णा, हारे खिष्णा, हारे खिष्णा, हारे खिष्णा, हारे खिष्णा, हारे खिष्णा, हारे खिष्णा, हारे खिष्णा, हारे गिष्णा, हारे गिष्णा, गिष्णा, गिष्णा, हारे, हारे राम, हारे राम, राम, हारे, हारे हारे गिष्णा, हारे गिष्णा, गिष्णा, गिष्णा, हारे, हारे राम, हारे राम, राम, हारे, हारे हारे कृष्णा हारे कृष्णा कृष्णा कृष्णा हारे हारे हारे राम राम राम राम हारे हारे हारे.
कृष्णा हारे कृष्णा कृष्णा कृष्णा हारे हारे.
राम राम राम राम हारे हारे हारे.
हारे कृष्णा हारे कृष्णा कृष्णा कृष्णा कृष्णा.
हारे ह.
Kānta-Sakti-Bhāksa om namo bhagavate vāsudevāya om namo bhagavate vasudevaya om namo bhagavate.
Vasudevaya.
नरंचेवानलोगमां देविं सरसुतिन्दासं लोचायवुदियं अरोधेन्दी रहे।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।। PANAM AHAMAJYA BUDDHA SUYEDHA SARVA DEVAMAYO GURU One should know.
You have the translations, no? पर मुझे पड़कल.
पड़कल पड़कल पड़कल पड़कल.
पड़कल पड़कल पड़कल पड़कल पड़कल पड़कल पड़कल पड.
I request.
You to switch off.
Your mobile telephones or put in silent mode.
How much? How much file have you downloaded? Very small. Very small. One more question, one more question.
इस वर्स अपिरेशि चितनच्छण विदा अधियलिला 146 इस इलिए ग्रेष, ओम शुद्वार विदा अधियलिला 146 अधियलिला 146 अधियलिला 146 शुद्वार विदा अधियलिला 146 शुद्वार विदा अधियलिला 146 शुद्वार विदा अधियलिला 146 शुद्वार Bukit-bukit kemungku-kemungku- विद.
Kemungku- kemungku- kemungku- kemungku-.
Kemungku- kemungku- kemungku-.
Kemungku- kemungku- kemungku- kemungku- kemungku- kemungku- kemungku- kemungku- kemungku- kemungku- kemungku- kemungku- kemungku- kemungku-.
And spiritual kemungku- kemungku- kemungku- kem light is to be connected to the bona fide discipline succession. The first thing is we should understand how great this divine grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada is. Śrīla Prabhupāda Ṭhākura Ṭhākura Ṭhākura Ṭhākura Ṭhākura.
Ṭhākura Ṭhākura Ṭhākura Ṭhākura Ṭhākura Ṭhākura Ṭhākura Ṭhākura Ṭhākura Ṭhākura Ṭhākura Ṭhākura Ṭhākura Ṭhākura.
Ṭhā Concepts in a very easy to understand sensing manner.
Clear. Like the mineral water.
As to the Brahma's wonderful quality, I remember in South India there was some Gana Yagya, Gita Gana Yagya going on by one sanyasi and so many people were coming out from the lecture. So one of them only happened to be passing by, met a friend, oh, you know there was a friend of the temple, donor, life member or something. What's happening? Oh no, I was sitting here gathering ideas. So how was it? What did Swamiji say? A person said, well, how was it? Oh, it was fantastic. Swamiji is such a great speaker. It was wonderful, wonderful. So what did Swamiji say? And the friend said, what did he say? I am an ordinary person, how can I understand what a great Swami is saying? I can't understand anything he says, but I really sounded wonderful. Very usually, people speak in such a way that it sounds very intellectual. Nobody can figure out what they are talking about. Maharishi Prabhupada, he brought the science We could understand even foreigners who didn't have any previous contact with native culture.
They could understand.
I want to speak on the Indians for them. I'm sure it's easier to understand. So we're trying to encourage. It's a problem. You read this. definitions to what an acharya is. First of all, he was a great acharya. He lived by the Vedas. He taught the Vedas.
He practiced the Vedic knowledge.
He could explain it in an easily understandable way. In so many ways, whatever the definition here of an Acharya, he was a great Acharya. So what we're trying to encourage is that everyone should first really be committed to wanting to serve Srila Prabhupada's movement and serve Srila Prabhupada. Prabhupāda had many followers. Prabhupāda had a vision of a worldwide movement, which would be fulfilling the prediction of Lord Caitanya, to spread Kṛṣṇa consciousness in every town and village around the world. Pratibhite ākṣe jatana-grādhi-graṇam sarvaṁ supra-cārīpe bhaime gauranam. अपने अपने अपने अपने अपने अपने अपने.
अपने अपने अपने अपने अपने अपने अप�.
अधिने आपके लिए करते हैं, आपके लिए.
करते हैं, आपके लिए करते हैं, आपके.
लिए करते हैं, आपके लिए करते हैं.
आपके लिए करते हैं, आपके लिए करते.
हैं, आपके लिए करते हैं, आपके लिए करते हैं, आपके लिए करते हैं, आपके लिए करते हैं, अगर आप आपका � बड़मने के लिए आपका बड़मने बड़मने के लिए आपका बड़मने के लिए आपका बड़मने के लिए आपका बड़मने के लिए आपका बड़मने के � We are hopeful that this will spread to many, many places in the world. Some people migrate to Canada, to Australia, to other places from here. And when they go, they also bring this message with them. From the Middle East, one couple went to Toronto. Mereka six party rishi gurus. Mereka already one of the council members on the temple council. So, we hope that the devotees, they can get the mercy of Prabhupada. You know that by being a devotee and practicing in a country like this where it's a bit difficult, up to a thousand times, مزید فائدہ مزید فائدہ مزید فائدہ مزید فائدہ مزید فائدہ مزید.
فائدہ مزید فائدہ مزید مزید فائدہ مزید.
فائدہ مزید فائدہ مزید فائدہ مزید فائدہ.
مزید فائدہ مزید فائدہ مزید مزید فائدہ.
مزید فائدہ مزید فائدہ مزید فائدہ مزید فائدہ مزید فائدہ مزید فائدہ مزید فائدہ مزید فائدہ مزید فائدہ مزید विश्तु पार अस्तु त्रेव सदर्शि शिशी मर अभवे चायन गर्के विदा तर स्वामिन पभु पार।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।।। Sampradaya. Sampradaya. Sampradaya. Sampradaya. You can't say that, okay, that Prabhupāda has his different followers. Which follower inspires you? Which of his followers is giving you that determination, dedication to information This is the decision of each disciple, who they want to take. But first we decide the Parampara, then we decide the Sankrataya, then we decide, okay, Parampara, his system. Any one of his disciples and followers.
Can potentially be a guru.
When somebody in Iskcon is recognized as a Guru, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't test them and you shouldn't assure yourself. Because they're disauthorized that you can perform this service. There's no PhD they have to go through. There's already minor aggravation that they're following for 10 years.
At least, too many, but much more.
They know the basic philosophy up to a certain level. They preach in a way nobody has found anything unusual about their preaching. There is no major objection came up because we live in, everyone has the right to be a guru if they have the basic qualification. After that you have to decide which is your guru. प्रावबाद आप प्रावबाद करने के लिए आप प्रावबाद आप प्रावबाद करने के लिए आप प्रावबाद करने के लिए आप प्रावबाद करने के लिए आप प्रावबाद करने के लिए आप प्रावबाद करने के लिए आप प्रावबाद एक जो नहीं करता करने है, करता है। वह आणा करता है। करता है। नहीं करता है। नहीं करता है कि मैं नहीं करता हूँ। अगर मैं करता हूँ, नहीं करता हूँ। नहीं करता हूँ, We need to take shelter of a bona fide spiritual master. Do we have any doubts or any questions that we clarify from you? Someone who takes responsibility? So now while here, he explains that just like children need a parent, Devotees mean the loving care of this virtual master. Jiva Goswami said that if someone doesn't find someone they see as a Acharya, and if they find someone they see like an Acharya, who is very merciful, then serve yourself to that person. We should always be in the mood of serving other servants of Krishna. You never added the value of Krishna. I serve Krishna directly. I don't need a guru.
That's not the answer.
That's considered offensive. We need to always serve Krishna through His devotees. Bahadur Shaitaniyya, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahibine, bahadur.
Sahibine, bahadur bahadur sahibine, bahadur sahib आपको परसम करने के लिए अपने आपको परसम करने के लिए आपको परसम करने के लिए आपको परसम करने के लिए आपको परसम करने के लिए आपको पर एक वाज़.
माप नहीं हो चाहिए But initially he didn't have a guru.
He was a son of a devotee.
He decided he'd go to Jagannath Turi from Bengal, five hundred years ago, to meet Lord Chaitanya. And he would take initiation and he would learn the Srimad Bhagavatam His name was Srinivas.
Srinivas Das.
Somebody here has named Srinivas.
He got to.
Jagannath Puri. There was a big festival going on. He said, what's happening? No, you don't know. Lord Chaitanya left the world yesterday. Today is the festival. I don't believe that he has been walking for over a month. Whole life he is waiting for the day to meet Lord Chaitanya. His father was a very ardent disciple in the body of Lord Chaitanya. But he had somehow delayed and he didn't go earlier. And now he reached there and Lord Chaitanya was gone. So he pulled his hair and he.
Was like, man, no, no, no, no.
Who is going to teach me the Bhagavatam? How will I learn the science? And he thought maybe I should commit suicide. What's the use of living his whole.
Life as a waste?
The Lord Caitanya appeared to him in a vision and told him, You can't take your life because your life belongs to me. Don't think about that. He goes to see Gadadhar Prabhu and He will guide him.
He will not help him.
So one of the Tantra Tattva here, the Lord Chaitanya, this side written on the Advaita, the other side is Gadadhar and Shiva. So Gadadhar Prabhu, He was staying in Jagannath Puri then. He is said to be incarnation of Radharani. So He went to see Gadadhar Prabhu. He was crying and he was in separation. He didn't want to see anybody, but when he heard the name Srinivas, he.
Said, okay, send him in.
Because he had heard that Srinivas was going to be the future hope for the disciplic succession. He was going to be an important servant of Lord Chaitanya. So Srinivas came in, paid his obeisances, He said, I want to learn from you the Srimad Bhagavatam, I want to be your disciple. He said, now I can teach you the Srimad Bhagavatam, but my Srimad Bhagavatam is spoiled. And he showed that those days of 500 years ago, Bhagavatam is handwritten on a इसे पावली और इंक नहीं था, इसे पावली नहीं था, इसे पावली नहीं.
था, इसे पावली नहीं था, इसे पावली नहीं था, इसे पावली नहीं था, इसे.
पावली न And see the whole, the words are washed away by their tears. They had so much love when they would read the Bible that we read. I didn't, I know, all of us were crying. The back of this paper also is quite waterproof, not fully but somewhat. But they were so much in love with Krishna that by reading, they couldn't help but cry. So much of the Bhagavatam was washed out. So they couldn't study it anymore. So the Sri Maharaja said, go back to Bengal and get some Paniyats to copy a new Bhagavatam, 18,000 verses. Those days you wanted to get a book here to get someone to sit there and copy it from the original. Buying a book was a big deal. Not like now on the internet, you can get a book anywhere. Then he took the blessings of Siddhartha Prabhu and then he went back to Bengal, got the Bhagwatam written, made it up in his, how would I thank him now? Again he walked back down to Jagannath Puri. When he got there, there was a big festival going on. He said, what's the best thing we don't know? That I have probably left last night.
No, no.
Don't tell me that.
I don't know.
Who is going to teach me this? I don't know why you are laughing. He was crying. He was devastated. He didn't know what to do. Again, he was like... He really wanted... I thought, maybe I can't dramatize this properly. But... He was really upset.
Really, really devastated. Then...
He was told to go back to Bengal. Another vision of Gaddafi has to go back. There you'll find the... बिच्चिनान्दा पुर्भुव आपको करते हैं। वो देखने के लिए बच्चिनान्दा पुर्भुव आपको करते हैं।.
वो देखने के लिए बच्चिनान्दा पुर्भुव आपको करते हैं।.
वो देखने के लिए बच्चिनान्दा पुर्भुव आपको.
करते है.
Again he was devastated. This time someone came to Ayodhya Srinivasa. He said, Sita, I mean, Thakurani, she.
Wants to see you.
Thakurani, the widow of Lord Chaitanya, Vishnupriya. So he went and paid his obeisances and there in the house of Lord Chaitanya grew up and lived. विश्णो प्रिया शीवास बास्टिंग।.
विश्णो.
प्रिया शीवास बास्टिंग।.
विश्णो प्रिया शीवास बास्टिंग। विश्णो प्रिया शीवास बास्टिंग।.
विश्णो प्रिया.
शीवास बास्टिंग।.
विश्णो प्रिया शीवास बास्टिंग। विश्ण She wasn't caring for her beauty, for her personal upkeep of her hair or anything. She was very much in separation of her divine husband, Lord Chaitanya. But even then, Srinivas could see that she was the most beautiful woman he had ever seen. She was definitely, she was a Lakshmi.
She was out of this world.
She was playing this pastime. She paid his obeisances for straight. She said, I'm not seeing anybody.
No.
But last night, in my dream, when Chaitanya came and told me you were coming, that you're going to do some important service for him, that I should tell you to go to Vrindavan and there Rupa and Sanatana Goswami can help you." She explained how Lord Chaitanya sat next to me with His arm around me, called me and said, स्लेगि चिनी राज जो बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत बहुत او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او او प्लाइन, आपने प्लाइन के लिए आपने प्लाइन प्लाइन के.
लिए आपने प्लाइन के लिए आपने प्लाइन के लिए आपने प्लाइन के लिए आपने.
प्लाइन के लिए आपने.
प्लाइन के लिए.
He went to Vrindavan आपन and there in Vrindavan he was taking a bath and... Akuru was put there. Then he overheard some brahmanas walking by. No, Vrindavan isn't the same anymore. Yes, since Rupin, Sanatana left, it just isn't the same. He ran out, you know, just with his yamsa. What.
Did he say? Rupin.
Sanatana left? Don't tell me yet. Yes, having a festival now in Ravindra Govindaji temple. They're gone. They both left the world. No.
No, no, no, no. He.
Was running and when he got to the temple, he was running. I told him he's gone. He just collapsed on the back. Who.
Wants? Where.
Do I go from here? Everywhere I was going, I was leading back to the spiritual world. No one's staying to teach him. And somebody woke him up. Wake.
Up. I.
Said, you still need help? And he said, yes. I am Jiva Goswami. Bhuvan sent out and told me that you will be coming. That you should take initiation from Gopal Bhatt Goswami. Gopal Bhatt Goswami is the son of Venkat Bhatt, the head priest of the Ranganath temple in Tamil Nadu. He was initiated by Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and he went to Vrindavan as one of the six Goswamis. And Jiva Goswami said, I am supposed to become your Asiksha Guru. He will give you initiation and I will give you instruction. There are two kinds of spiritual masters. There is one who gives initiation. He is one of those.
He.
Is also a Seekhsha Guru for his disciple. He also gives instruction. He is normally considered the primary Guru. Some cases are the exceptions. There are Seekhsha Gurus who are instructing spiritual masters, who guide and help the Seekhsha Gurus to get their disciples back. may be many of the Siksha gurus. So now finally Srinivas Acharya, later he became given the title Acharya. Srinivas achieved the spiritual shelter. The way he was so eager and so determined to get spiritual master to get the guidance that he needed to get.
Back to Krishna. He.
Is a good example for all of us. Sometimes we don't realize that how I met some devotees who said that they were with Prabhupada, they saw him, they were getting his association but they they were delaying, you know, they were chanting 16 rams and then they were chanting but they were thinking I'll take later initiation. Then all of a sudden in 1977, November 14th, 7 o'clock at night, Prabhupada went back to Ganesha. And they were shocked. He said, what does that mean, what? Now who's going to be my Christian? Who's going to initiate me? To get back to Krishna, we need to have initiation, not formally. The first time in your case, you should get back to formally. Be sure about it, you should be initiated.
But.
Not just enough to be initiated. We should actually want to learn the science. If somebody is initiated, they don't learn from their spiritual master and his representatives, Krishna consciousness. It's not going to be very perfect. That's what's called initiation of spiritual birth. But from birth we have to learn so much. ḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍaḍa It's up to them also to ask questions of the spiritual master to get the proper understanding about Krishna consciousness. Once we are under the shelter of a bona fide spiritual master, we offer our service to Krishna तो गुरु, तो श्रुष, तो प्रावपा, तो प्रावपा, तो प्रावपा, तो प्रावपा, तो प्रावपा, तो प्रावपा, तो प्रावपा.
तो प्रावपा, तो प्रावपा, तो प्रावपा, तो.
प्रावपा, तो प्रावपा, तो प्रावपा, तो प्रावपा, आप सभी जानते हैं कि ब्राह्मा तो प जानता है कि वो गुर्ण जानता है कि वो गुर्ण.
जानता है कि.
वो गुर्ण जानता है कि वो गुर्ण जानता है कि वो गुर्ण जानता है.
कि वो गुर्ण जानता है कि वो.
गुर्ण जानता है कि वो गुर्ण जानता है कि वो गुर्ण जानता ह.
We.
Need to get a link for the disability section. To be sure that our service is accepted and gets there. Sometimes some of my office servers and the gurus there, they guide. He has to find the faults. You shouldn't do like this. Or your fingernails are dirty. I'm not pointing you wrong. Whatever. He has to find out some faults. If there are any. If there are any, he does not explain. That's his, that's an unfortunate job that he has to be guiding and encouraging. If something is right, he also extends those very great strength. Those little words of encouragement we got from Shah Nafraullah, they were so important.
He.
Was saying that something was good, you know, it was like a real confirmation, okay, I did something right. And then he said that something wasn't correct. It was also very serious matter. The disciples are very much focused on trying to please the spiritual master. एक पड़कर पड़कर पड़कर पड़कर पड़कर पड़कर पड़कर पड़कर पड़कर पड़कर पड़कर पड़कर पड़कर पड़क Why are you not giving me fish?" He said, No, we are going to the Hare Krishna Mahabharata. They told us that Guru Sahib Krishna Prasad. What? This.
Is.
Vegetarian, this is cheap food. Fish is expensive. You must give the best to the Guru. Good fish. They are demanding like this. He said, I'm not going to come here anymore if you go to this Hare Krishna. He went off. So they joined him and said, you know. I don't know, we could see that he's not even vegetarian, he's not following. Some gurus are like that, they don't follow. They're demanding you have to serve. A good guru, he should be practicing what he preaches. He said the devotees, they should eat only Krishna Prasadam. They should follow what we call Sattvic Ahar and Sattvic Achar. Behavior in the mode of goodness. Everything should be offered to Krishna. Like Bhagavan said that the life of a spiritual master is a transparent thing. Everything is dedicated in Krishna's devotional service. Krishna doesn't eat fish. So the Guru doesn't eat it. Krishna will eat fish and we will eat... He doesn't eat so we don't eat. Someone else, maybe they're not able to eat but it's a trend. Maybe they eat fish but they chant. It's alright.
But they're.
Not claiming to be a guru. When somebody is a guru or claiming to be a guru, then they have to practice. Acharya means they have to be a good example, they have to be followed by their Guru. We know that some people, it may take them time to be fully a vegetarian. We don't reject their service, we try to engage them. But to be a Guru and take the responsibility for people's spiritual life, then you have to practice very carefully. So Prabhupada was such a person. We're trying to follow in his footsteps. Very difficult because his footsteps are so gigantic, but in a spiritual sense. We're trying to follow, we're not imitating. We're trying to follow in his footsteps, follow his instructions. In this camp, we're all dedicated like that to following Prabhupada. You have to say who you are inspired by. आप करने के लिए नहीं होते हैं। करने के लिए नहीं होते हैं। करने के लिए नहीं होते हैं। करने के लिए नहीं होते हैं। करने के लिए नहीं होते हैं। करने के लिए नहीं होते हैं। करने के लिए नहीं ह Muaqib, siyabat-e-guru. Muaqib, siyabat-e-guru. Muaqib, siyabat-e-guru. Muaqib, siyabat-e-guru. Muaqib, siyabat-e-guru. Muaqib, siyabat-e-guru. Muaqib, siyabat-e-guru. Muaqib, siyabat-e-guru. Muaqib, siyabat-e-guru. Muaqib, siyabat-e-guru. Muaqib, siyabat-e-guru. Muaqib, siyabat-e-guru.
Muaqib, siyabat-e-guru.
Muaqib, siyabat-e-guru. Muaqib, siyabat-e-guru.
Muaqib, siyabat-e-.
In the future we need that you all become qualified and that many of you also become spiritual masters. In this camp we envision that there will be thousands, tens of thousands of spiritual masters in the future.
दिर्भी.
पार्छों के लिए, दिर्भी पार्छों के लिए, Sukhopati. Sukhopati. Sukhopati. Sukhopati. Sukhopati. Sukhopati.
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Sukhopati. Sukhopati. Sukhopati.
Sukhopati.
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Sukhopati.
Usually one.
Takes from whoever they get more training.
And instruction from. If you.
Have any questions on the topic tonight.
Please tell me. Rest done. Topic of.
Today'S verse is about Indra and Narayana. If you want to ask me another question from Mahabharata or something, bring me the Mahabharata. Show me the verse.
Sometimes.
Everyone gets initiation like in the olden days. Now there's email, there's telephone, there's many methods, there's jet flights. Someone gets to see their Guru. In old times, sometimes they were initiated, then they were under the care of a Sikhsha Guru. Sometimes they never saw their Sikhsha Guru again. So, just in practical terms, that Sikhsha Guru was more prominent in their life. Like someone, if they don't see their father and they're under the uncle, He's still the father's father, but he's more like a father for them. Something like that. Or if the guru may authorize someone, then you can be under the care of the Sikhsha Guru. Whatever he says, take it as I'm saying. There are different kinds of levels of Sikhsha Gurus. प्राक्तिक गुरू करते हैं करते नहीं प्राक्तिक गुरू करते हैं प्राक्तिक गुरू करते हैं प्राक्तिक गुरू.
करते हैं प्राक्तिक गुरू हैं प्राक्तिक गुरू.
करते हैं प्राक्तिक गुरू करते हैं प्राक्तिक गुरू क Temporarily say that, okay, I am not able to, you are in South Pacific, in Africa, and Prabhupada is not going there, you will write him a letter, to be under such and such guidance, and such and such to go there. Take him as your Sikshaguru. Two cases. Later on, Sikshaguru may withdraw that, okay, he is not your Sikshaguru anymore. He doesn't give good Siksha.
अगर.
आपने.
लिए करने के करने.
के लिए करने.
के लिए करने के करने के लिए करने के लिए करने के लिए करने के लिए करने करने के लिए क� महराज.
अगर एक वरसन करने के लिए शल्टर करने के लिए महराज, एक वरसन.
करने के लिए शल्टर करने के लिए.
महराज, एक वरसन करने के लिए शल्टर महराज, एक वरसन करने के लिए शल्टर करने के लिए महराज, एक वरसन करने के लिए श और मतकर एक दिन.
मतकर एक दिन मतकर एक दिन मतकर एक दिन मतकर एक दिन मतकर एक दिन मतकर एक दिन मतकर एक �.
Under shelter of his spiritual master, Bhakti Ummesh Dupad, Bhakti Siddhanta Saraswati Thakur for like 11 years. But he was never taking initiation. Because he was always thinking that I should become, if I take initiation, I don't want to be like a burden for my spiritual master. I want to be pure. I want to be. So he kept trying to get purer and purer. Older God brother talked to him and said, okay, you're never going to be 100% pure. If you're 100% pure, you won't need a guru then. We take a guru because we want to get purified. We want to get his guidance, his protection. See, this has to be up to a certain level that you're fairly sure that you are ممکن انتقام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام امتحانات امام 1933? 1932? Last.
Year.
Was... 1933, because last year was the centennial of Prabhupada's initiation. No. 70th anniversary. 70th anniversary. I went to a lot of Then the governor was there at that time. He was.
Shastriji.
Now he.
Is a new governor. Vishwa Shastriji.
When we are in Iskcon, we made it like a step. Somebody's been around in the movement for around a year or so, they're fairly mature. Even if they have already an idea that I want this person to be my future guru, then they can take the blessing of being an aspirant. We have to take the guru as the Sikhsha Guru who they're aspiring for having as their future Deeksha Guru. It's like a pre-shelter. So they can start to develop more of a personal relationship with the spiritual master. Start a correspondence, start to develop a type of guru-disciple relationship. Then, if somebody is training 16 rounds for 6 months, अगर करते हैं, करते हैं, करते.
हैं, करते हैं, करते हैं, करते हैं.
करते हैं, करते हैं, करते हैं, करते हैं, करते हैं, कर� जो गुरू करते हैं, करते हैं, करते हैं, करते हैं, हैं, करते हैं, करते हैं, करते हैं, करते हैं, करते हैं, करते हैं, करते हैं, We want क to forget that because we don't know how long we're going to live also. We don't know how long the whole situation is going to be the way it is now. Suddenly, you know, maybe there's no such support. So it's better to, you know, get all the spiritual support you can while you have the opportunity. नहीं करतक करतक करतक करतक करतक करतक करतक करतक करतक करतक करतक करतक करतक करतक करतक It's not that you're going to be 100% pure. It's not that you should be like completely fallen. Obviously, you have to be able to get that achievement or to get even shelter, you have to be following basic four principles. Sometimes there's devotees who, they're like vegetarian, but maybe they have to eat in a mess or something. In the mess, they slip in some onions in the food. So like out of their own free will, they had the onions. We don't really want to, but they don't have any other alternative. So such people were just like in a situation, they're not really qualified for being initiated, but they're trying to do everything for initiation for six months. So we got them shelter if they want. But before they can actually take the initiation, then they should solve that problem. Like the shelter, we hope they'll get more support and more strength. You've got to think some strength that comes by thinking in spiritual commitments. I don't know, did that answer your question?
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