20081002 || Śrīmad Bhāgavatam Class (2.2.14) || Hong Kong #JayapatakaSwamiArchives

Lecture-style transcript of a Śrīmad Bhāgavatam class delivered by Jaya Pataka Swami focused on meditation on the Lord’s universal (Vishvarupa/Irad Rupa) form, the relationship between personal and impersonal conceptions of God, narratives from Vedic tradition (Ramanuja, Ranganath deity, Lord Chaitanya and the Goswamis), pilgrimage details, and practical devotional practices such as kirtan and japa. The speaker emphasizes returning conditioned souls to their natural loving service to the Lord and gives travel/ritual anecdotes and practical guidance for chanting.
Unless the gross materialist develops a sense of loving service unto the Supreme Lord, the Seer of both the transcendental and material worlds, he should remember or meditate upon the universal form of the Lord at the end of his prescribed duties. Spiritual world is the manifestation of his internal potency. Living entities are also his marginal potency, and by their own choice they can live in either the transcendental or material world. The material world is not a fit place for the living entities because they are spiritually one with the Lord. And in the material world the living entities become conditioned by the laws of the material world. The Lord wants all living entities who are his parts and parcels to live with him in the transcendental world and for enlightening conditioned souls in the material world. All the Vedas and the revealed scriptures are there expressly to recall the conditioned souls back to home, back to life. It is due to their misguided way of life complicated by sins and virtues. Some of those who are virtuous by deeds begin to establish the lost relation with the Lord, but they are unable to understand the personal feature of the Lord. The real purpose of life is to make contact with the Lord and be engaged in his service, that is the natural position of the living entities. But those who are impersonous and are unable to render any loving service to the Lord, they have been advised to meditate upon his impersonal features of the Rad Rupa or universal form. Some way or another, one must try to establish one's forgotten relation with the Lord if one at all desires to gain real happiness in life to regain his natural unfettered condition. For the less intelligent beginners, meditation on the impersonal features of Irad Rupa, or universal form of the Lord will gradually qualify one to rise to personal contact. One is advised herewith to meditate at San Viradhufa specified in the previous chapters in order to understand how the different planets, seas, mountains, rivers, birds, beasts, human beings, demigods, and all that we can conceive about different parts and limbs of the Lord. Sri Radha Rupa form this sort of thinking is also a type of meditation on the absolute truth, and as soon as such meditation begins, one develops one's godly qualities and the whole world appears to be a happy and peaceful residence for all the people of the world. Without such meditation on God, either personal or impersonal, all good qualities of the human being become covered with misconceptions regarding his constitutional position. Without such advanced knowledge, the whole world will come to hell for the human being. So There this is the end of the Chapter 2 spoken today at the presence of on the 2nd of October, the 522nd year of our beloved. So the sign of the south ocean planet by Russia the Universe is a four headed Brahma. The previous verse 13 it says we should see the Lord. We should see the Lord first on his lotus feet, then his knee and his waist and his chest and his neck and his smiling face and then his lotus eyes and back to the lotus feet. So in the Bible times it also says first and second third this chapter these cantos are also like the lotus feet legs of the Lord. And the first step in God realization is the Ra group of the universal form. The impersonalists and the avoidance they tend not to. They think that material bodies and material forms are all form is material. And therefore they don't accept easily the form of the Lord. But if they can meditate on universal form that may be easier for them to understand how the Lord is great. Some of the impersonates are really offensive to actually the person of phone the Maya bodies. Some are ready offensive to Krishna. There's an example that Ramanujacharya who was one of the great spiritual masters of the personalist civil success. It's named Acharya. Most famous Acharya for the Sri Sampradaya, Goddess of fortune and merc. When Ramanuja was just young and he was a student then he was studying Sanskrit under Mayavati Guru. So there was a beautiful verse that says that the Lord is like the red lotus. So beautiful like a red lotus. But this Sanskrit at that time Amanuja was giving a leg massage to the Guru is like a Sanskrit teacher. So then for the teacher he gave different translation color like the rear end of a certain kind of monkey. But when Ramanuja heard that he loved so much the Lord he started to cry. How can you say Lord beautiful Gordon's feet is like a monkey rearing. The tears are falling onto the leg of the teacher. Well, when you said that Lord's lotus feet is low like monkey rear end it hurt me so much that I couldn't help but cry. The teacher was saying how the student is telling me my Sanskrit is not good. What's the meaning there? What I said wrong? Sanskrit means lotus, red lotus, not a red monkey bag. So then there's Guru thought that this is a devotee, he's a Vaishnava. If I don't get rid of him, he's going to defeat all of our Maya bodies like that then. And he made A plan how to kill Ramanuja My body is sometimes really offensive to Krishna they said they respect the Vishwa the Vishwarupa the universal form Then granting they'll become they can also become the temple he's from the time of Lord Rama Sometimes we take our devotees Then next year, next year, year after next we'll go also again to South India Limits of pipe we went two years ago Every three years ago I have video also made by the Russian devotees It's an English Russian we have some Chinese come the Nigga so they calmed out so Lord Chaitanya when he went there this deity Ranganath is a very special deity this deity Brahma wanted to worship a deity of Krishna so he prayed to Vishnu and the deity came out from the melt ocean it was worshipped in the planet of Lord Brahma the four headed Brahma sugar Polar home on the in Thailand they have a lot of Brahma worship Chinese they have any Brahma worship Nova four places Buddha Then Brahma was worshipping in his planet Then he gave it to the demigod and the sun the Surya Deva he gave it to Manu gave to Xvaku and like that it came down in the different lineage of the kings coming from the sun Says in Vedic history that there are two lines of kings One from the sun and one from the moon and they were meant to protect mankind so this is called Surya Vams or the the family of the seven kings so it came down to Lord Rama which was also in Suryavangs, Krishnas and Chandravas so like that when Rav defeated Ravana Rama Chi Bhair Ramana Yiho he made his brother Vivishana who was a devotee Ravana was a demon and his brother was devotee so he made Vivishana the king of Lanka Then Vivishana asked went to see Rama in Ayodhya and asked him to please come and stay in Lanka I think Lanka Ram said all my devotees here in Ayodhya they want me to be here so how can I go to Lanka Instead I'm going to give you my personal DB of then but you have to take wherever you put the deity down that's when you'll stay Take a Shishanga to the Yoga Kaliga so all the sages it is such a powerful deity worshiped by the four headed Brahma this deity should not leave India so they prayed to all the Devas to please so then Ganesh he agreed to help he took then the Devas they control our Bodies actually. So they made Vivishana feel the urge. He had to urinate very strongly. He's flying inside this beautiful island in the midst of two rivers. So a beautiful island in the middle of that river. Then Vivishna landed. And there Ganesha taking the form of a young Brownian boy. And the Vishnu said, I had to go to the bathroom. He can't go holding the needy. So he said, just could you hold this for a few minutes? I'll go and come back. How do I know you'll come back? What if you don't come? I can't stand here forever holding the deity. So if you don't come, I'm gonna call out three times. And you did that three times. If you don't come, I'm putting down the daily. The demigods gave like unlimited unit. First warning, come back. Second morning, come back. Third warning, come back. He said, sir. Then he somehow washed himself and ran back. But by that time Ganesh had already put down the deity. Sri Lanka, you're here. Now what do I do? Facing Lanka. And from here I'll give blessings. So that deity, Lord Chaitanya also like to worship that deity. Very beautiful deities. Lying on a snake is about five meters or more long. Maybe five or five and a half meters long. They use meters or feet? Meters. Every day luncheon tended to come and chant and dance before Rangana. Baby. How many have seen Rangira dealing? How many like to see? They don't let us take photos. Only one way to see. Have to have one of the translators also go. Four months of the rainy season monsoon in India there in Ranganath. So sometimes this priest of the Shushampradaya. They like to worship the Lord in the form of Narayana. So they asked Lord Chaitanya, why are you worshiping Krishna? Why don't you worship Narayan? So first answer me a couple questions. You say the Rayana is the number one. But I'm saying that Krishna is the number one. The lion is coming from Krishna. But you're saying Krishna is coming from the lion. So my question is Narayana's consort. His energy is Lakshmi. But in the Puranas this is Lakshmi. Where? And she was doing Tapasya. She was doing penances and austerities. To be part of the Rasa Leela Krishna. Second question. Why she was refused? If she is the consort of the number one, she can go wherever she wants. Why she has to do Tapasya? And even after doing Tapasya, she was not allowed. The Bahamas didn't Know what to say? We respect that Krishna Narayana that are saying. But the different forms of the same Lord Krishna is original form. Narayana is a very majestic, powerful form. You say, my lord your honor. You speak with very great respect. But when the judge goes home now please may have grandchildren, wife. They don't speak like that, my lord your honor speak like wife or children. Said even he saw that one big judge, big official. He was taking the grandchild on the back and going like a horse. So Krishna is this informal form. Informal like the judge at home. And the Ryan is like the formal form. He is like judge in the court. So like that which is which you get to know the person better. Informal or formal? You're very smart. Learn quickly. So let me show them. Like this. Was staying in the house of Venkat Bhatta in. But he was staying in the ashram opposite the house. Ashram is still there. How many like to see the ashram of Lord Chaitanya? I have picture only deities. Nobody. So the son of Venkat Bhatta is Gopal. Son of Venkat Bhatta is Gopal Bhatta. Okay. So he was serving personally Lord Chaitanya. Washing his clothes or bringing his prasada of everything. How many of you would like to serve Lord Chaitanya personally? Of course, you can also serve them here in the daily form of God. Italian. So here you have. I'm saying here you have Apajay worshipping. Born in night in the Archa avatar. The incarnation has a worshipable deity. Forgot Chitanya. Yeah. And he learned about Roy Chaitanya when he was in novelty by Airport Dawood. Thousands and thousands of followers. But now he's seeing him alone. Only with one secretary. So he was thinking, I'd like to see Lord Chaitanya. How he was in all the deep with a bunch of tattoo. He kind of went into a dream. He started, saw and so many bhaktas. How many of you like to see such a dream? While he was watching the kitten going on, we were rallying. Then Lord Shaitan changed his form to Krishna. Blue color playing on the flute. Like this one. How Go Raga changed to Krishna. He fell on the ground and offered his obeisances. Went and touched his foot on the head of Gopal on the top. And then Gopal looked up and he saw Changed back to Chaitanya Mahabhara. Lord Chaitanya told them, I want you to go to Vrindavan and join Rupa and Sanatan. Help them to write books. So he became One of the six Goswamis. The temple dome is covered in pure rolls. Very beautiful. And there's also a kirtan hall there. The kirtan hall was made by Arjuna as a donation for the temple 5,000 years ago. So this is a very old temple, very beautiful temple. Lord Chaitanya stayed for how many months? So like that, Lord Chaitanya was traveling around. Sometimes he meets the morning, sometimes he meet Mayavadi, sometimes he meet Buddhas. I was thinking how nice these pictures are. Tamakrishnamaj made this book. And in this chapter of the previous chapter about the universal form, to be made like this with Chinese art, so that people can meditate on the universal form this way, gradually start to appreciate the greatness of the supreme personality of body. This is why, until we have some love for Krishna, this is a good meditation. About five years ago, we went to the Rangana temple and we were very fortunate because they had fixed up the temple after 100 years. The Di temple has been closed for some months. They were just opening it at that time. So they were doing a special ceremony of bathing the dome of the temple with milk and auspicious items. Then they would open the temple on the first day. Everyone who can see the deity on the opening day. They said they go to the Vaikuntha gate. They go back to Vaikuntha at end of the life. So I got all of the devotees. So we have to rush because this is your chance to say that go to the Vaikuntha gate only once in a year. It's open. It's a special open. How many want to go to the gate? So I went first. I went to first and saw the door, the gate still open. I went and got out of the wood. They went and had the narshan. Then when you're going through the Vaikuntha gate, there's this special Tiktik lizard that. There's two of them. They're watching. There's a lizard in India. They have a lizard. I know they have in China. They said they'll be reincarnated Brahmins as a lizard. Okay. And if they. If you do say something, right, they go, tick, tick. Okay. Okay, thank you. So they're called Tik Tik lizard. Okay? You have such literature. So there's a witness. You go through the door, they witness you went, okay. When you get up to the gate of the spiritual world, if they stop, if they. Who are you becoming a spiritual world, then they are. So anyway, somehow my job is see everybody Looks back to go over in Darwin back to the spiritual world. This also gives us unlimited blessings. These deities which are incarnations of the Lord for us to worship. When we worship them, it also gives us so many blessings. So this chapter is telling us about the Lord and the heart. The yogis, they see the Narayana. They see the Vishnu form in the heart. They meditate on the feet and up to the gradually up to their face and back to their feet. So gradually this also Bhagavatam. We read the first chapters. It talks about Vishnu Lord in a higher universal form. When we get up to the 10th chapter, then it's Golo Vrindavan and Radhakrishna Krishna space negative second third chapter. First is like looking at the Lord's feet. It's important to know all the glories of Krishna systematically. Will we read the confidential pastime can know that who is actually Krishna? He's not an ordinary person. So Lord Chaitani he also recommended we read all of the Bible to him. He gave three orders study Krishna's teaching. So we study the Bhagavad Gita which is spoken by Krishna. And we study Rhagavatam which is spoken about Krishna. Srimad Bhagwatap is considered the book incarnation of the Lord. There's a state in India called Assam. It's near the Chinese border. And there they put the Sinon Bhagavatam on like the altar and do Puja to it. All the things connected with Krishna are not different from Krishna. All these things we respect any question. So next year they will go to India. So she wants to know where is the location of Ramadan. Which city? The city is called Sri Lanka. And it's very close to the bigger city called from Chennai to Trichy is overnight train. It is about only 15 km. You can get a direct train at Sri Rangam train station. We have a temple there. It's called small temple. This year we're going to the Chinese border. Next year we go to Sri Lanka. Next year means next two were pretty much from now it's very hot in South India. But next year will be cooler because every three years there's extra month. So after the second year then there'll be an extra month. Then it will become late again. I was the early mountain of the eastern Himalaya. They're opening one border there between India and China for commerce. That's the Kanchenjanga mountain is nearby. They climbed the other. But this one there were nobody climbed. We go do some pitching there. Then we'll come down and go to the place of Rupa and Sanatan. Where they were. Where they were serving the king. That's where Lord Chaitanya stopped on his way back from Gaia. We talked about Gaia last night. And he saw Krishna. And that's where love for God and Krishna Prema manifested. Is very wide there. Six kilometers wide. Then we go to the prison house where Sanatana Goswami was kept prisoner. Let me go down by the side of the Ganges and see some holy places of Naratombas. Do some programs. Let me go to. So go down the Ganges to my airport. And then we go to Jagannathuri. That's our friend this year. Next year we go three years from now. We go to. Every year we go two, three days after Goku. Some devotees come every year. You're the five. Some of them come for 15 years. Every year we go some different places. This year we went to Bangladesh. They were very, very enthusiast. Bangladesh is about more than 100 million people. 80 million are Muslims and 20 million are Hindus. Most of the Hindus are devotees of worship. When they saw that the votes in different countries they're touching their feet. So much respect for the. I wanted to go for many years to Bangladesh. But it was some violence. But this year was very peaceful. You see the donation to cover for the buses and the transportation and Prashada. Everything is just about 150 US dollars. Because the warnings. They also give the prasadam. Some places this where we go. But the devotees also give us free prasad. Okay. Sometimes so not everywhere. We actually when we stay in hotels, we have to pay for the hotel. But if the road is local temples arranged, then we save some money. Otherwise it's not possible to be so cheap. But this is not just a tour. You have to also help preach. You have to do some bhajans. And if you know drama, you can do some drama. We had 40 from Russia last time they did pantomime. Pantomime. No talking. So same language. I see. They also did Ramayana. Even though they spoke in Russian. But people knew the Ramayan. How many of you know drama dancing? Any other question? Sh. Teaching. What's the difference between chanting and Jesus singing? Oh, Kirtan. Kirtan? Yeah. Japan defense. Kirtan is louder. One time one lady asked Haridas Thakur and I chant mentally silent Japa. This is more on the subtle plane of elemental plane. So won't this be more powerful? But another stagger said no. The live chanting is 100 times more powerful. When you chant loudly. So many other entities, humans, insects, birds, animals. They hear the mantra, so then they're chanting. That means it's benefiting others more. So by helping others, you get free from any offense you make. Have any of you ever committed an offense? So to get free from the offense we do. If we help others, then we get free from our offense. 300,000 names on Krishna Day. 100,000. He will chant loudly, 100,000 softly and 100,000 mentally. Because it takes a long time to chant loudly. We chant 25,000. 25,000. Okay. Of course, maybe you're in some place and officials don't want people to chant Hare Krishna. You have to chair mentally, like in front of the immigration officer or something. So we generally at risky places, we have to chant softly or silently. When we're in our house, we can chant as long as we don't disturb the neighbors. The problems of the journey. We would prefer longer chanting than for spiritual benefit. But place is difficult. We may have to hide it. More loud than loud. Japa, so many people were getting their blessings yesterday also. When we do together as a group, then that means cooperation. When we cooperate and serve Krishna, Krishna is more pleased. Thank you very much. Thank you for watching our videos. Be sure to subscribe to our channel. We publish new videos every day. And don't forget to like and share our channel.
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