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Chapter 8 text number 5 translation and purport by Sri Prabhupada Translation and whoever at the time of death Translation and whoever at the time of death quits his body, remembering me alone at once attains my nature. Of this there is no doubt Purport. In this verse the importance of Ka consciousness is stressed. Anyone who quits his body in Ka consciousness is at once transferred to the transcendental abode of the Supreme Lord. The words Maran, which means memory is important. Remembrance of Krishna is not possible for the impure soul who has not practiced Ka consciousness. In devotional service to remember Krishna one should chant the Maha Mantra. Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare.

Hare Hare Ram Hare Ram Haram Ram.

Hare Hare Incessantly following in the footsteps of Lord Chaitanya Being more tolerant than the tree, humbler than the grass and offering all respect to others without requiring respect in turn. In such a way one will be able to depart from the body successfully remembering Ka and so attain the supreme goal.

Hare Kaey Krishna as are we.

Extreme by his type. About 13 months ago I had a stroke so I'm not fully recovered yet and half my face is paralyzed so I got to speak a little slower and don't have the perfect pronunciation. So I hope that you'll be able to understand me. So this verse is. By the way, there's some that remembering Krishna at the time of departing this world we are definitely without a doubt going to go back to the Krishna. So the atmosphere, the spiritual atmosphere, this is a very important thing. Now Prabhupada stresses that. So I think well, I don't have to do anything.

I just.

I'll wait till the last minute and I'll be in first step I go back to Ghana. Let me enjoy and be merry and have a good time. At the last minute I'll just think Hare Krishna. We can't. If we do like that the probability is that we won't think of Krishna at the time of death but think of something else. Dislike us while maybe in Atlanta she lent $140 million to her camp. I wonder what she was thinking about when she left her body. The richest cat in the world had all whole bunch of lawyers were acting as the trustees on behalf of the cat and they had a tomb already when the cat died and that money would be donated to certain charities. I don't know how long the cat lived, but he died soon. The fun is that the cat the person was probably thinking of the cat went dying. She left all her money to the cat and the cat was so thus pregnant. The one who really loves her, she thought like that. Some people think it's their dog. The dog loves you. The dog looks and raised a tail dog. Man's best friend told us that the dog, he looks at your nose, he likes seed noses. And I thought, no, I didn't think. I saw the things Prabhupada said a lot of things. Okay.

Prabhupada said that. Then I read in the newspaper that.

In India one dog was sticking into the morgue in the noses ash P. And then h. I was walking by river and I saw a dog. He was carrying a skull in his mouth, looking out the skull looking at me, waving his tail. My viewfind about dogs completely changed. We want to think about Christianity, that we have dogs, you know, as a cat. So the cat, sometimes when they see a mother of the house is pregnant, she curses that she has a miscarriage because she knows that once the baby is born, a cat won't get so much affection like that. So I know cats sound pretty dangerous for grasses, but you know, anyway, either you have the dog in the country, people either barley animals or something. But we should chant.

In this way.

At the time we leave our body because we're habituated thinking about Ka he'll help us, he'll think about Krishna at that time. So I said I'd talk a little bit about what Caitanus Vila Let me just tell you first the glories of the eighth chapter. Lord Asila was asked that Harvardi David to tell the warriors of the eighth chapter. And so he told See, there was two children, or the children of Krishna, conscious of parents. So in their childhood they learn some things. But then, you know, the second generation, some of our second generation are good devotees. And some of them, they want to experience they're devotees, but usually they're devotees.

But they want to experience the world.

So this couple, this. They wanted to experience what was material happiness. So they traveled around the world and after a while they got bored with the whole material experience. So they were sitting under this Tiananmen.

Tree, we call that in India. So they were sitting under the heavenly tree.

And they didn't know that this tree was filled with ghosts because it was a tree that was used as a hangman's tree. The king would assassinate, would hang all the colonels. So as a result, many of them didn't get immediate avert. Instead they were there in the tree. So they thought, here is a nice young combo. They can possess their body when it gets Dark and we can enjoy. So they are all surrounding who will be the first to get in. But they only become very strong at the dark. Meanwhile, the couple doesn't notice all subtle things happening around him. The husband says, you know, I wonder. Everywhere we go, people are doing the same thing. They're eating, you know, maybe she'll use chopsticks, they'll use forks, they'll use fingers. But every result, they eat, they sleep, they meet and the dependence of the army. So now I wonder what is karma? What is the soul? Who is the supreme person I got here? What is the absolute truth? I wonder these things. And then the wife said, you know, I learned a verse from the Bhagavad Gita that Arjuna asked just these exact things to Ka Kim Brahma, Kim Adyata. King Karavapam Shautara ran to say these verses and all the rose up ready to jump fighting this. On the Sunday on the listing, every word they said, King, King Rama, King Adyadna, King Karma, Urushodama. They heard half a verse from the Bhagavad Gita. That was enough. They all got liberated. All nature and all their karma. They're already dead. But they were in this. I know what you call it, this ghostly state.

Kind of purgatory, but it's an intermediate state.

So in front of them, these ghosts, the tree crashed down. The ghost took his eyeballs and down came what do you call crystal of Dinan, some kind of a spiritual airplane that was propelled by mantras. And they came down and there were all these little radio foreign.

What did you just say?

You got real spiritual Ashakti. I just Peter learning Gurukul. It was a verse from the Bhagavad Gita. King Brahmala, King Adyan, King Karla Shatra. He said one was that King Brahmala, King Adyana, King Brahma Vashatra. And the work of those ghosts. I wasn't paying that much attention. I mean, it didn't work for me. So the husband started chanting Ra. It's half a verse of the first verse of the eighth chapter. He was chanting and chanting day, night, one would be the time when he will be liberated. So one day you see Lord Vishnu, he was here, smiling, relaxing on his earring especially significant smile. So she asked lord by nature smile so special today dwell in the universe of the forehead Rama on the planet Lord Varsha as a brother. He's sending half a verse of the Bhagavad Gita every single day. Shawani, what should I give? Said all of what should I give? What is the larger hygidam? You know it is your dance. You know the Lord is completely independent. We don't know he can do anything. Called to Vishakshena who is the commander. He's the spiritual source of the Ganesh who takes away all the obstacles. When the Sri Lanaisana do a Yajna, they install this Sakshana. When the material like Spartans do they install Ganesh. What we do, we install the Guru. Because it's art of Karma. The guru is the implant of all of he gave us. Saturday morning, Saturday night moved so respect saying that he called him over. He said bring them up. Bring the husband wife up back home next to God. So he was brought up right Directly because he was saying King Rama King, Adyan King Karma. So like every chapter of the Bhagavad Gita has got some great glories to it. And this is the glories, one of the glories of the eighth chapter. So I started to speak on this chapter because we had a lot of parable Joshidas and they have the children here who are also our devotees. So this is about two Agura Kul alumni. And because the wife is in one word or has the virgin she was able to liberate herself and her husband. So a little bit goes a long way. And I was asked to think yesterday by Devadas about myself. Like at that time when I had this attack, I was also questioned to a sudden I was thinking about Krishna when I was in a coma. So that helped me a lot. Now I thought since we're in Prabhupada's room, I want to speak something with Prabha. And then that he suddenly give me a good advice that whenever you see the Guru, he should praise him. He said humble yourself and he should ask for a blessing.

So.

Again a simple version. So I just want to tell you something that sticks. So I read the law down in Marathon and see Baba. And then I say Baba and Yoga most worshipful. Also I am the most potent. So please have your mercy on me. You look at me, you are not the most anything. This is a daily. These are the ones that I stick. I reflected on that. I Balyan and I said Prabhupada, I just want to serve you. Please, your merciful please bless me that I can serve you life after death. You know what does it mean? Why you want to make me come back? What did I say wrong? And now we're supposed to say. So I was thinking, I said ease in life after life. Because all that works take him back to the spiritual world. Well, it's not that we want to take birth to getting in even if he has to take birth. Wanted to engage in his service. So I added the word even and he smiled like that. There was a very exchange sometimes like. But I said he does not accept it. A few times he said some unexpected things. One time in the very beginning we had the Lotus Diligent. We didn't have any other of buildings. There was one devotee. He was like looking around, going around the building, sits on the stair under the stairway. Watching the show on his side. I was just checking on you. We were having a daily pastime with us to our Karaba was when I first joined. I was somehow Olinda Dazi, who is a resident here in Hawaii. She took me under her ring and I was named as the assistant. Assistant. Assistant or something. Assistant secretary. That when they went shopping in the afternoon I would sit outside and in case probably wanted something. There had to be someone there. So that was my. Usually he didn't want anyone. I came in. So I said, you know, if I'm going to rose other than my life will be extended. And roses are very good for me. Can you get me a rose? I thought, oh, why not? I'll get a rose. Okay, I'll get you a rose. So then I went back to the temple. I was pointing out everything in the old ladies for the nearest forest and said toned out. That order arose. And Hasanu was at the end of the temple President with the hand of. So he overheard what you. What do you think you are? You can't just go and do stuff. You're at Ramachara. You tend to do what the president said. I'll do it. He said, it's okay. But Prabhad, he said he wanted one rose. So he asked me to get it. So I just gather rose and I'll do whatever you say. No, no, you can't get it. Prophet asked me to get on a road. How come? You know, I was a bit stuttered guy. And so we had a big fight there. I just crazy guy. Why can't you understand? All day long I do whatever he wants. This one row they got to get from Prabhupada. I was like steaming at the urgent road. Walked out of the temple. He was shouting at me. I heard what he said, but it sure wasn't nice. And then I just walking feeling I realized I didn't know where I was walking. I didn't know, you know, and looking across the street there was a. A floor. I walked over and there happened to be that that floor said I ordered money. So I take the money to the floor took the flower again before Allah he did. Ah, thank you Lord. I had to go through to get that FL till I tell the president and say okay I like your service. Anyway there's a couple of pastimes I mentioned that our next charity is the 500th anniversary of Lord Caitanya uptaking sannyas.

For.

My this is a very big occasion and already like I think the rooms are like all booked up now. They only accepted on the waiting list but it was either a bump or a festival this year because what they know is the Daihant anniversary it's the 50th anniversary or something going to the silver. So this Lord Chaitanya ghost who wasn't happy that he did sannyasa his sannyas is really meant for purification. It's a kind of austerity so. And why should he do austerity? He's the Lord himself with that moon on. Lord Ninja he wasn't happy that he was taking some but it was a large independent desire because he was being criticized for his research and Rajivasi Sadi there is some heated the exchange between him and some of the students to chase him away. But the students are not submissive. So had they they were rebelling against the Lord Chaitanya. It was a deep testament. He decided that I want to preach as a Vihasta. Mainly I won't be accepted. At least 500 years ago that was the situation and now I don't know if it makes a big difference but at that time he thought it would make a difference so he took the sannyas. There's a lot of background. When Lord Valentran came to when he was in the. What do you call it Parking nears of Varnavas living in the forest he visited Arjun Ramdeep in Navadi. From there he is now. And Siddha Devi asked him why he was not so he said well to make a long story short of it that in the end of the test time I'll worship a golden form of you and you'll be in the forest. But in the Kaliyura Allah was the forest. Can you worship a golden form of me? Vasida didn't like this either way very much. But this the Lord always reciprocates with his devotees soul. Someone asked well why did he round Denys Sita? That's another question. Distrust above he also eventually took out very hurt. And by going to divorce, he had a loving wife. He had a loving mother. So that is mentioned by Bhakti Takkar in his Navarudam Mahatma the glories of Navarudam. So I was with Srila Prabhupada. We were watching a drama about Lord Chaitanya. And part of the drama Hadyunta Sannyas.

So.

Part of the king only five devotees knew that he was going to take Sannyas. Somehow his mother suspected. But she didn't know for sure. So at midnight he just took off. Mother sat. She went looking and saw that her son was gone. She ran out. And this drama I said, very, very well done Drama was very emotional. She has. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Then she like changed. I don't know. I'll go, I'll try to find my son. And she went running out. It was like one in the morning. No one answered. She ran out and there was a village there. So she called. Has anyone seen Nan? The village was dead. She was crying near Dia, near Doya. No mercy. No mercy. So that village is still called Ni Doyo. They dropped the R over 500 years. But a near day out to knee dial. Those who are living life. And they know the knee dial. You know, Knee dial. And they're always the first one you hit by flies, the curse and all. They set you way out there, right there. Anyway, that village is still there. As the Lord Chaitani went to a Katwa where he met with the Keshava Varaki Maharaj. And there he Atik Sanyas. In Qatar there's a Zolani of Keshavarati, the Sulani Lorchetanya's hair and the Samani of the Barbera Das.

So.

In the Lakhi Ratnakara there's a detailed description by the father of Srinivasacharya. And he his name was Chaitanya Das. But from birth he had a Bhagavad. So Srinivaras, when he was nine years old he asked how did he get the name Chaitanyanas. So he gave the whole story. But almost by quenching it, at Krishna's mercy he came to Khatra on his way to Nalavad. He was going to see Lord Caitanya. And then he found that Lord Caitanya was in Katwa. There's a big kitchen going on. He somehow got in the front row, the front row. And there he saw the whole Thing he was telling all this story to his son. And like Shaitan, he asked a barber to shave. The barber went to Shayma. All the people when they realized that he was really serious, he wouldn't take sannyas, you know, renounce everything. Shave all the blue over here. No, no, no, no, no. Huge crowd, Huge crowd. No, don't do it. Don't do it. So the robbery said, I can't do it. I can't do it. I like it. Why not? Why dancing with your gardener, that's what you do. It'll be offensive. He said, if there's any offense. I take it your genre is turning hair. I want my hair cut. If you do it, I take the time. If you don't do it, you're dissipating ground up and obviously very largely tendon. You start shaking with ecstasy. A low occasion. Now you don't want a barber. You want to be very steady. So he was shaking at the same time and his eyes were filled with tears of love. He started cut Lord Shaker in his hand. So it was a really difficult task. It was the hardest head he ever saved in his life. So it says it caused a lot, a lot into this barber. How this barber feeling extreme ecstasy and love of Krishna, he somehow shaded Lord Caitanya and Lord Chaitanya entered into his heart. And he had loved the Krishna. After he was older, he just fell on the hair and he's crying the Omn world. And they had that picture there by the tree. Swakha tree or some tree. It's still there. All this barber crying, lying on his hand. After that he never shaved up. He never cut anyone's hair. He just so.

This.

A lot of sun stories saw this. Many, many things happened. Finally I love Chaitanyas in the taste of barbecue. I dressed as a Sanyasi. He came and asked, are you going to give me this mantra? And then he chanted the mantra in case of Bharati's ear. He said, actually he gave the mantra Keja Varati. That mantra was given that up to Lord Caitanya. In case of Ragi said, your name is Sri Bishna Chaitanya. So after that the he was chanting and chanting this mantra, this name. So he became known as Chittanuras. So when he remembered the whole pastime of Lord, she came out, he fell down and he was crying. And then Srini Raj Acharya, he was a young boy, he grabbed his father's.

Feet, put on his head and he.

Was crying to and hear a saint. So the wife, she heard the husband fall off his chair or something. What was happening? She came to the kitchen and looked and saw this sight of the husband lying on the ground and the son holding the father's feet on tent. So what does she do? She offered her audacity. Those are the highlights of the Lord Chaitana takings in yourself. In January we are doing one ade yacht from Vayathura to Khachratra Chakra prayer calling the root of Lord Chaitanya. So I won't talk about that. But it's. It was predicted in the scripture that for 24 years this avatar of Ka which comes as a devotee, he lived as a Vhastra. And 24 years he lived as a Zenrasa. So that's exactly what happened. So what Krishna, we're going to do a dance and then after we'll take questions.

And then they got liberated and we at the same time talk about like chanting Maha Mantra. And so what I was wondering is that they got liberated because of their sincerity in knowing things. And so what is more important, sincerity or chanting? And if we lack some sincerity, how do we increase the sincerity in the chanting?

What makes you ask? What makes you speak?

That.

Sincerity was the overriding each of us chanting on behalf of our words. We don't talk aesthetically that he's sincere or insincere. We don't comment. All we do is say that he changes chanting. He chanted that. I didn't tell you to chant. It was sincere. But chanting that path of verse is not by anyone recommended in that saying just completely is a speculation.

But the Lord somehow or other accepted as his devotional service. Otherwise in all the scriptures it mentions Hare Krishna Mantra. So if the first chants a half a mantra, I have a verse of Bhagavad Gita without any, any kind of authorization. It's on his will. But he has taken back to God. Watch his speaker. Seven chants, which is an old mantra which is recommended by Shastra, which is authorized in all the Acharyas.

And.

It says Hare Krishna. Hare Krishna, Krishna, Krishna.

That ashama that these 60 names are 80 swords to come. So that's 6, 16 names. It is always Kali, Kamasha, Rasha. This tries to that effect of Kaliyuan, Naktat, Nakat, Bharta, Utaya. There's no better way to be found in any of the natives. Sarda, Radisha, deshta. In all the natives is a better alternative. So what Prabhupada gave us is the best alternative to health Emulators So we should we have more security.

That that.

Person got liberated accepting the glories of the Gita because there's no word that says just go out and clean health or virtual Bhagavad Gita but since it works with the ghost he shall all take that he was chanting otherwise.

The.

Maha Mantra Hare Krishna that is recommended and chanted in the Upanishads, in the Pranas, in the workshop of Chaitanya Mahu so we chant Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna, Krishna. We're not doing it on our will, we're doing it on the order of Lord Caitanya and by doing that you can also leave a short like this verse that we read over here Also remember Krishna at the time of that I go back to garden now to continue to chant that piques of sincerity no doubt. So which is whether it be chanting or sincerity Both are needed because without sincerity how are the person going to chant? And if you don't chant what you just need sincere but if you don't chant, there's a lot of sincerity though they don't they sincerely eat meat and because they don't know any better, you know, that's what they were told. That's all right. I met one guy came up to me and he said you are hard Christian, right? You have regulated sex like Lord Jesus told us wives of married we can have unlimited sex, there's no limit. He walked up to me and started well, I don't know if Jesus exactly said that but anyway you know what to say to someone like that many Grihasa not able to always regulate themselves perfectly but at least they have another goal. This version his idea was I don't know what word I don't think there's any version in the Bible that says unlimited sex. You just kept doing but that was his idea. So all kinds of ideas floating around out there and you can say well these people are really sincere but they're sincerely mistaken is sincerely, you know. So what both are needed is sincerity and also to do the right thing. So chanting Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna this is something that is recommended so if we get one person get all the questions I know what I'm all against who's got all the questions?

All the papers, all the questions can.

Be passed in that's it, no questions. I have one question Internet. Okay, how many are watching Internet? No. 37, 47 sometimes you get twenty hundred but I don't like Hawaii many westeries but ten reasons pretty late, six hours behind, five hours too late for dry nine and a half. Nine and a half one way and.

Fifteen and a half the other.

From India and then East Coast. Six hours. Five or six hours. So it's really late.

Really late at night.

Really late at night in the usa. Everyone's is from Swaruk. Krishna from Manipal University, India. Manipal University Greetings all the bodies here. Krishna a blessing in the cause of discharging material duties. We have to be in places without association for a long time. How do we remain inspired and not to relax in our Ka consciousness?

Well.

That'S a similar question. Hopefully we'll be able to have centers or Mount Hatha as almost every place. So you won't be without association.

But.

There'S two ways you come to mind. One way is of course. But these are two things. You continue to chant and read Prabhupada's books. So that will help to keep you inspired. Second is you preach the message of Prabhupada to your work colleagues and your friends and staff. Because by preaching if there's no sense in your life, at least while you're preaching, you'll be able to create a new devotees Viveka center. You can make a non Hatha. So it's a dynamic process and someone can chant and make others Ka conscious. The third way is right there actually need anymore. I'm not limiting this state. But the third way is like what you're doing now. I'm in Hawaii, in Anador, in Iskcon and you're watching the lecture over the Internet. So there's a lot of centers that have a streaming Internet like at LA or Maya. So you can watch the temple of worship classes in English at these different places. So in that way now you can get if there's Internet. And at least in India every place has Internet. It's a quite Internet. What shall we say active country now. So you can get association through the Internet no matter where you are.

But.

As was Sachin. Sachin, Sachin. Sincerity is the dictate that when we're alone a few days ago in Hong Kong, Krishna Etc read the verse or not. Why was it first chapter third.

Third.

That the lust is hiding in our.

Third chapter.

Third chapter ourselves and the light and the intelligence is hiding. So it's within us. So this Lord Krishna addresses also Prabhupada addresses these lust as our enemy. So when we get some idea that we want to enjoy things in an improper way, that's what we call our enemy. And it's not. We have left right parts right Intelligence. So you have to be very careful of being alone. The possibility to see affected by your mind and your cousins. So you should be aware that Maya will take you and test you. If you're sincere. That means that you won't realize that this is the Maya which is contaminated by the Maya and the lust. And that's why it's thinking about something illicit or something that's not authorized. So one thing also is that people at work like yourself, we do recommend that generally the people that work outside, they get married. And when you get married, you should marry your Ka conscious thoughts that Laktiva Notakar said the most important thing or the Astra is who the wife is or her wife, who the husband is. That their styles should be our Christian conscious. This is if you have that. I have some disciples that work with the earthworks and they get stationed in different stations now because he's married and his wife is Krishna conscious. So at least the family unit is Krishna conscious. Although he's living in some earthworch days, all the other people eurekasins are not Krishna conscious. But anyhow he's able to maintain. At least he has the right is that Krishna consciousness. So together they worship their deity with practice. So like that, if you're working outside, if you're basically working in like a grihasta, then architect, because he was working to maintain his mother. So he said I live in a family, I live in the house, I maintain a household, I should be grihasta. So you don't marry. It's like I'm artificial to. If you only Ramacharya, you should live in ashram, live outside, work outside. And we are living as a graza. We should get married. And if you get married, if your parents tell you to marry, son not devotee in the nicest language possible, tell them no. And right at devotees this is. You have a much better chance of survival otherwise with the wife, it's like his daughter devotee, you got a double.

Make her a devotee. Fight.

She got to fight against all the world. It's like two tough. I can tell horror stories, but that's what we didn't know. So anyway, thank you very much. My name is Paul. We have a lot of boys and girls and students who are. A lot of them are doctors and physiotherapists and engineers. It's quite a rich university. So we have a program there and such programs. They were in all the universities around India, around the world. At least we had one nice program. So thanks for calling It a lot of the students they took a loan maybe as a doctor so then they had to serve for the government for a certain time to get the loan.

Ari table.

So he is worried that he may get transferred to some place by this no center no devotees Shahali maintain so that's the Vikram Hari Krishna can or lengths any questions.

Prabhupada told us that our love for him will be tested by how much we cooperate.

Together.

Our love in developing our love and trust. Can you comment about that statement? Because sometimes we have situations in communities and temples around the world where everybody has different ideas on how they want to spread ka consciousness and therefore people are kind of doing their own thing instead of really working together.

As a as you know in the greater picture thank a worldwide cooperation. Prabhupada established the governing body permission for the GDC and so we worked together following the GDC at least in the GDC member that's like a code I have to adhere to.

What you're saying.

Interesting because when the year 2000 came up that was almost 10 years ago so I gave the seminars like a very distorting session. What were people's idea? What would be the ideal Islam. So you know, it was humbling actually because the role that GBC actually plays in people's lives is very minimal. Only 10% of the issues were global. The 20% were national and the 70% were all local. So like your question, the local issues are really. The president doesn't smile at me. The temple charges for the Sunday feast all kinds of, you know they had why women aren't gurus. There's hill issues that really had to be decided globally. But other than that most of the issues were local things. So how to work together that's interesting question. I mean you could. There's different communities with different partners. Some they just have a very like a heavy 10th president and is very hard wave. That's the way they are operating as some they have communities they meet together and whatever the majority decides if hollow there's no like this is the way for everyone. And here because I see a lot of my God brothers, God sisters. I would think that something a little more collegiate will find out because I don't think any autocratic lieutenant president is.

Going to be accepted by my God.

Brothers or God sisters. We were trained in a different way and we got allergies to that kind of thing. So but the idea that is, you know someone needs whoever the president needs a broad vision to see how to include everyone and then how to Accommodate. So that's one of the things I do is, you know, as a zonal secretary I go around and try to get the discordant factions to work together at least to recognize each other, respect each other's sincerity. And so it's an interesting question. I mean if everyone has this determination and they'd like to see everything under the temple, under the ISKCON umbrella. So please Prabhupada, see what we do now, that's what the TTC is now discussing amongst other things is that whatever we do now, this is going to affect the future. We're like what do you call endangered species Prabhupada disciples. So how to, how to bring up new, how to bring up new leaders, how to keep up this spirit of following Prabhupada? We may to different degrees have some direct experience about Prabhupada, what he wanted and how he like to feel. But the future generation, the next generation, they've heard directly from Prabhupada to Shaitas. After that it's only like second hand. At least what we established now if everybody works on, does their own thing then that's really the example that mainly Apollo hopefully not. But it would be much better to have an example that we're all working together and to show the next generations. Because 10, 20 years from now, most of the Prabhupada cycles, maybe we don't know how long we'll live, maybe 30 years next. So gradually like there's no more Bhakti Sdarth, Saraswati disciples. They know how oppressive they're all in fun. The bhakti Vaidavi was 99 or something. He left this year or last year. So I think they're selling those 300 and the end of the year for four years. But if they were issue when they were very young. So what we're thinking now is that what we do is a very important example for the future generations. So if someone wants to do some different things, that's all right. We should be broad enough to accommodate it as authoritative problem. But they should also want to somehow get the get under the umbrella at least so that they'll show this good example of cooperation. Maybe they're doing non hakta. Maybe they're going to some other island.

Where there's no temple.

But somehow it is recognized by local president or by the GDC or something. It would be ideal if they would be shining sandal of preparation. I mean I met one brother came to see me in Chennai and he just spontaneously made himself A guru. And he's initially saying, Saithan, would you like to get like a regularized teacher? He said, yeah, it is possible. So let me try. I mean, but it's very easy now to be a guru. It's not a typical thing. If someone wants to be a guru, it's not so difficult. But this way we like to like.

Get people to.

Cooperate. As Prophet said, it's the test of how much. Of course they said they used exam well Prabh God he didn't Prague it, but I was present and I was in the Gaudian month for six months because there was no Islam center in Calcutta. And then actually two months, but they think it was six months. So they think I have to reach. But anyway, two months is like a Yuga. I got all kinds of experience of Gaudi and lot I know what is Godian lot I know what is not. I'm trying to unify the Gaudian lot into the Saraswat, the Gauri Vaishnav association with ISKCON last two or three years we had some setbacks. Otherwise we were heading to register ourselves.

And to.

That Rob would ask me to do this service.

No.

I still am the planet. So I want to try to tie all the loose ends of Bhavad Yanya to. So that was one of the things. But within ISKCON I'm trying to unify. He has by and large ISKCON is a unanite. So they appreciate that the Gaurivananda is like divided into like 40 Gaudi Grant 40 different. So you don't want Ishkama to ride into 40 or 50 or 100. Our strength is that we're all together, work together. So at the same time how to do that. You know this. I don't know what is the practical problem in this place. But that's one of our focuses. We like to do this. It's an Alheat of Shiva Prabhupada if somehow we can work together. So I'm not. I'm just here as a guest and not any official position. I used to be a North American Judency and Southeast usa but Krishna Maharashtra, New Zealand. But right now Roland Hochstrange who is the GDC of New York, he's the chairman of the GDC Royer, he knows that this is our focus. We went to succession how to ring up no table, how to get everyone to cooperate together. So he said he wanted to help.

I don't know.

What'S possible, but some. I mean, I know Michelle who seems to be a pretty open minded person. So here it should be possible. Good example of how our God brothers and second and third generation they can.

Work together.

And achieved what problem was it?

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