20091212 || Śrīmad Bhāgavatam Class 5.13.10 || New Dvārakā (LA), USA #JayapatakaSwamiArchives

Transcript of a recorded lecture (Śrīmad Bhāgavatam class) given by Jayapataka Swami discussing Chapter 13 material about sense enjoyment, lust, and methods for controlling desire (Krishna consciousness, brahmacharya, devotional practices). The speakers use illustrative stories (honey/honeycomb, tigers in a forest, devotees’ lives, marriage examples) to contrast material sense gratification with regulated devotional life and to recommend chanting, self-control, and service to the guru.
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Chapter 13 by looking at verses with Jai bar text Yad.
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Rasan Sexual enjoyment.
Sexual enjoyment Searching for. Searching for.
He had very much thereafter the object of sense enjoyment. Sometimes we ought to have a little insignificant sex enjoyment. One searches after debauched women. In this attempt one is insulted and chastised by the women's kinsmen. This is like going to take honey from a beehive and being attacked by the bees. Sometimes after spending lots of money, but may acquire another woman through some extra sense of enjoyment. Unfortunately, after the sense of enjoyment the woman is taken away or kidnapped by another devad she Sometimes it ought to have a little insignificant sex enjoyment. One searches after debauched women. In this attempt one is insulted and chastised by the women's kinsmen. This is like going to Taikani.
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After spending lots of money when they acquire another woman for some extra sense enjoyment. Unfortunately the woman is taken away or kidnapped by another voucher. In a great forest, honeycombs are very important. People often go there to collect honey from the combs and sometimes the beads, the calf and punishment. In human society, those who are not Krishna conscious remain in the forest material life simply for the honey and sex life. Such devotees are not at all satisfied with one wife. They want many women. Day after day, with great difficulty they tries to secure such women. And sometimes while trying to taste this kind of honey, one is attacked by women's kinsmen and cat's eyes very heavily. By bribing others, one may secure another woman for enjoyment. Yet another devotee may kidnap her or offer her something better. This woman I need is going on in the forest and the shore world. Sometimes legally and sometimes illegally. Consequently, in this Krishna consciousness movement devotees are forbidden to have in this instead. Thus they avoid so many difficulties. One should remain satisfied with one woman. Being duly married, one can satisfy one's lusty desires with his wife without creating disturbance in society and being honored for doing stuff.
This is a good example of a drum means that someone trying to get the honey from the honeycombs. We heard from people we go to the cinder the forest in the south of Dingon beds that they go there to get the humming. And they're looking up in the trees where the humming hides. And they learn a small boat and a little creeps. We don't know that behind the bush is waiting a tiger and tiger nose. And the creek goes here and he's waiting rain. And when the man comes close, he leaves the crush on the car crutches. He leaves These tigers or the 8 to 10ft long. They weigh like 600 to 800 kilos. Instead of how you multiply them two by two software. A huge one hit rigid neck of the person. And it takes a in. So then all rulers doing okay. He was in the tire line up. This is the danger of learning after the honey. So that's his example. Apart from him lend my ways. If you go in the Sunnah, you saw great danger. There's a story that is told about these Siddhanta Sasha Thakur. And when carpenter he was entering into the jungle Sundar once again, that's where the other stairs move. And one old commoner, Zion said, you see, if you go in in the jungle here, wood he should take with your gun. It was tigers. But the young covenant watch. I get gunpowder. I cut one branch all the way around my head. The tiger runaway. Right? Good idea. Right? You see the other parts right there. They get cream wood. So he's crane raider wood. A young hair. Only 6, 7. Rigged on only 4500 kilos. Half the time snow. He said running on the field. He sees him running. He's fighting Tang the Rex. When his boy cuts his Rex, the tiger grabs his legs, starts eating his hands. And then another carpenter, honey, honey singer. All in the material. So then there was one devotee of pure devotee. He wanted a village and he was a preaching good. All depot is your champion. Very early in the morning, as you're all in the alley of the building. You were very early in the morning. So the village said, oh no, in the morning there's a tiger here. They went with their guns and they went into the hoard. Followed their footsteps. Then they heard the sound. Ching, ching, ching, ching ching ching ching ching ching. The car touched all the bushes. And they saw tigers and deers all out chanting aye, this dancing. And in the archae all these wild animals under control. Can't be one of those persons in the algorithm who was a young cardinal. I'll raise your hand one time. He's a person who's taking shelter. He's a person who's taking shelter of material things. He's a young devotee. Young devotee who is very proud of his. Who is the old? He's a guru guiding the young karma. Don't go there. There's danger. But the young karma is up. You don't miss a new girl. He thinks I'll protect myself. So who is the tigers and the wild animal material desires? Yeah. It's like in this verse. The material desires the lust he desires or sex life or all kinds of lusty desires. So these we think I'll protect myself of this advertisement and I'll protect. We cannot project like that. One line, one husband and they stay satisfied with that. Ideally, I want him to control and be very regularly. But one time there was a loading in my throat. He was caught in my middle of a process which unfortunately in my throat. There are prostitutes. The scenes of Niagara Goes Wherever. There's some Christian consciousness on here sub and ask why do you go to the prostitute? You're learning that you are the Lord. Even sex life. You've been a Rotary wife. It's not why you are regularly sexual. So I didn't want. He said see going here vivid is sinful right here. Why? Okay, maybe it's already but it's not central. It's not like that that kind of symbol. So like this. I was first impressed with the prabhupada facing the head. If you're not able to fully follow regular at least stay with your wife. Stay with your husband. Don't go out this very structure of a man. He's not happy with his wife. Not sufficiently happy. He went to another one with her. That now in India in the Hindus and they. August 26th or something, huh? Now India is liberated. In the legend you can have sex with anyone liberated. So this is the liberation that the Indians want. They want to follow the worst of this. But in this verse it says there's so many difficulties. Apart from all the difficulties. Now they have Daves basically the killer. And we have many targets that David has. I read and look at it. When they grows they are chastity rings. I know exactly what they were. But girls belonging to our chest in England only when they inevitably have sex. So now I said original teacher no is not allowed in our hearts. I see the good name Chastity. That's what Paul said is the roles of the ladies, the chastity shop any fate. So back to the story. Who were the men with the guns? But each of the persons represent. They represent karma Khanda. They control their desires life regulated themselves. They're not free of desire. They're not pure devotees. So regularly and they follow the karma Khanda. So that's like they change the guns to shoot off the desires. They are afraid of the desires. But they defend themselves by using the karma Khandha. So who is superiority? That's the easiest one. Who is the purity? Wild animals are the material of desirous of King and Jones are meeting all them in Krishna consciousness. So they all are champion. And then so the current hundred years old we have any opportunity because he has all his senses control. Writing devotional service by chairman. So this is our process of Bhakti Yoga that we control our senses by engaging them in Krishna service. This is the ideal way of meeting our higher senses. I was in trouble when I was in Hong Kong on my way to la. I had an association with Chris Shetter who he was teaching in South Hong Kong University as a professor. So I asked him to read the gift. Say here devotional anus of the fifth chapter that the enemy is the lust and is succeeded in the mind and intelligence. So this is lust. The lust is that I look far see the rhyme in our intelligence. So in the other universe, when you think of something lusty, you have to take a karma Kaliyu. You only take the karma when you do it, think of self thinking. Well, I'm sure sometimes in your life you might have lusted as I'm telling you, maybe all the time. So this is the problem I'm telling you about. But the advantage is we don't unless we act out, we don't have, you know, subject reaction. So you need to be very careful to drive out these desires, these thoughts of our mind. To replace them by chanting Hari Visha. So here's the idea of sound as Hariji. Roll your mind. What is it here? When I was a nude body, my mind was all the time thinking about different things. So I read that he would say louder. So I say louder, louder. It was working. Then earlier working. This crazy doctor tell me High Krishna Tanta is gone. In the temple we can't sing. You can't hear each other. They call each other. And he said why are you shouting Har Krishna? I told him that I registered high dust right now. And so many thoughts come in my mind. Prabhupada was a very open. But he was the same happen he wanted to keep living. At that time there were three temples. San Francisco, New York and Montreal. I visited all the three temples. Now I cannot visit all the Paigani temples. Have you visited all of my hungers? I visited Manaus or Mongolia, Philippines very hard all until and from Montreal open up Vancouver and Seattle. So probably to the radiation chanting champions in sun Eduardo chanting park right next to the heart of Mount Royal. Mount Royal as Montreal means Mount Royal. So there's a park in the middle of the city. They should call me mom or heart. So I shall to the heart. So that was how I was. I read that I can read the Book by God teach Inartha Sara chakra. So there are you. You're only thinking of this and that material desire of beautiful women by going to be in some solitary place. But you're all filled with maternal desires. You're filled with your batista. Your desired Brahmin thing is like the Sukra vista. It's like a stool of a ding. A hinged stool. So a stool of hip is like the divine stool. Stool of stool. I had a very horrifying experience in India. I was under some bridge in the bushes at nature God. I'm sorry to say this contemporary. It's all right. Yeah. No, soon did I a building on nature called. I heard this sound huge and pushed me over. Scared. Somehow I thought it was very new. I said me when we're in stool. So I had a firsthand experience. A pig's stool. Oh, you can imagine what that must be like. Stool, stool. Anyway, he said, your majesty is like your desire. Her name is like a stool of a pig. If you discharge the affirmative son appreciates anyone. You don't try to get appreciation. Try to be a pure loaded. And although I think you'll be appreciative, that's I come with it. The Lord doesn't hang up with that. That just comes online. That's all right. But the desire to do something to get Naaman's hand, that is. He said like the stove or something like this. You are changing the line. But some Lord is asking to see that. What if he leaves the line and still the line goes to the last he desires. Then I said, there's another verse that another herbhavhava prabhupada where he says he submit me. Ignore your mind, ignore this nothing. This is my conditioning. I don't want these things. I want Krishna consciousness. I don't want this to elicit the desires. So because we can just control it, we can ignore it, we can predict it that no, this is not what I want, it's not me. This is some condemnation not from our previous life. So somehow we have to fight against the desire, the lust that's in the mind and in the intelligence. We need to engage ourself to Pisces hers. Now Karla said that you see to be an efficient conscious kriyasa. It's a totally different situation. It's not, you know, I'm going to put on that it's not the same thing. It's actually they're dealing with their desires and they owe responsible way. And had the Sanskar did think of like what they were studying. He describes the Vihasa Ashram as a responsible ashram. So they had to take a lot of responsibilities. I see a lot of Vashas in this new Dharma and they're all thinking some responsibilities. I season the bronchia still whatever they are the ideas are made always in our Ka consciousness. And this is the way that we deal with the senses. So this is not the same as I mentioned in this verse. This is a materialistic person pushing games in trying to satisfy his desires. And he let him know our Krishna consciousness. Sometimes there's a mistake on the body is a Krishna is in life. Or actually maybe write Krishna conscious. We don't know. You don't know about which there are prior values. As a Sannyasi in Viktami Sannyasi we had no credibility. Our life is open books. We always got some secretary Iran so But in one case there was around 100 Hari Raj and he was being taken in the recession to to get there. So he stopped the Yashi Gar. He was taken with holocrine said Holocrin embarrassed, took a rest on the tree. They didn't know that this tree was in the ashram. Allah Srini Rashacharya so Srinivar Sacharya at that time he was being visited by Narajanas. So the two were shouting look at this nice boy. He's going to get married. He's loyal principal. Yeah. His degrees in Christian service. Why is he now he's going a grand recession Daniel but actually he should be Krishna conscious Satuachi. They just sit on the same tree so he could hear everything. And whatever they are saying they said well, I was thinking about the whole journey we are taking until his marriage is normal. He was a normal guy. Normal marriage. Marriage day. It's healing of a prince given a crown horses or in this case he was taking a palm wing. Somehow it's like the grand gave her. Then to some extent we call that Jerusalem. He is thinking the whole way I should be amazing in Christian service. Now I told him why are I engaged in Christian service? So then he went and got married. I hear the army go and talk to those sadas. I want to find out what do they mean. So they went back to the ashram and they reached their Christian consciousness. Saved to say Kauvikarna our devotee. Now he was very wise but he was right. But he never spent time writing on that. So Najra Narajana and the US association of Brown Hunter that same Ramchandra Karaoke So after some time he got initiated and then said well you don't learn spending time with your wife. She go home your wife and they don't matter. So he is a God. She went you read something spiritual, something real. I did have that enjoyment with you one day I want to know what you got. What you got from the Guru? Please tell me about Krishna conscience. So this wife was so aggressive. He told her all about Krishna Kanthas shadow. I went and also rendered period of Oshun service. At the end she knelt down and her shindra her head touched his foot. She went back to the ashram Shindra Charity shot the sun on his foot. Bhati had come here. He had some amazing wife and he did take a bath. He was chasing. But then later he realized his mistake. That when he speculated did he happen he don't know what actually happened. So then I'll beg. The problem is disciple. I made a mistake. I'm sorry. So like this there's many different pastimes that happen. And Siram Chandra Khadraj was also a pure devotee. I don't ask whether they live together or not. Maybe but first of many after the marriage she wanted to know our Christian consciousness. That was her desire. I can't see what happened. 25, 25 after.
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Oh okay. So then it turns out even Sunniya's child he had no thoughts for sitting desire to know. But he was called to be the grasshopper to be the Raj Guru of the kingdom Lorna mission was so he was rehearsing to be the Raj Guru he would have to be Vyashta because he would have to advise the king in his all six of his life. So he didn't know what to do. Srinivas Acharya didn't know what to do. So he went to Nara Harishaku who was the last associate Last disciple of Shaitan associate. This time I drunk in and asked what should I do. I didn't have any dessert to get there. I asked in the Raj Guruj Guru I had to get there. I say do so. Then Naray said neither Raj Guru get my and that's where your own old kingdom will be on you. And you can guide the kingdom how to be Krishna conscious. And those that are origin of the king could honest everywhere else we take it our president is he can take the honor of rising once but nobody else takes that origin because he doesn't. And the king came in later the king became converted to Islam 600 years ago to marry some meridian princess. The whole country had been Islam except a few. So now all the lights are all in Islam. But it's all 600 years ago because one king changed his religion. So that was the system then. So the king became devotee of light son for the whole kingdom of all the name devotees they all became at least as it was original. So Asrini as a child we got married his two wives at that time we love their sisters. They were very patient grandchildren also. I saw so many stories so and other each generation of kingdom of 13 generations they built a new temple and the set of rakishta deities. Now there's no way to worship those deities Deity of the babushima as a chariot still worship all put together and they always run one time, thank God 300 years ago before the runescape Just before the runescape they always want Bosco Hamid his age he had an army and he was conquered. He was very weak at that time. So he conquered the kingdoms and became luked him and he became like the king. So he was trying to conquer this. So the king Shirot Isheng was defeated this time in the last 10,000 soldiers came and was grinded Specifically carried Ras and attacked Ravas and Raishtowns. Meaning at that time the king of Vishuka is okay, don't fight will change the whole night. Get the blessing of Krishna and we'll defend in the morning. In the middle of the night Satan gets his bloodshed upon him. He was a demon temper so he attacked in the night. He's foolish people. They change my vision I'll attack him. They defend their own men. But the king heard Ho ho ho ho ho ho. The cannon blasted, blasted going up. All Bashar's army was killed, everyone dead. They still find ancient coins there and Canaan is still there. They still came and said shut off at machina. Who is the one that used to Arya Van? They don't have signs but they don't say anything so either Vishu9 you know your desire is taught to go to the mind or ignore your mind and reject his thoughts. But somehow. Dharma Sir Khan. This is the lightsaber Brahman. Any questions? Thank you very much for the class. Ma. What is the most important duty for a devotee towards his spiritual master? What is the most important duty for devotee? Yes. It says that there's two nights of seder that we perform the va Seva and the vine seder. So the seder when you fall through some person say that that's the opportunity. Otherwise the line is carry out his order say orders that we do look to solution in media service. He then gives up the service on behalf of the guru. If I'm ill to do that service or mind that service talks to the general president and discuss it. Oh, instead of heavy in this area what to do and see how they work out in this kind. Otherwise on the other way. Or I did an art and guru during life. Conclusions. So usually the words to the tenth message only mother cycle life and death of the disciple they have. Otherwise under normal circumstances, they should work through the guru or through the term. We use these two types of Siddha, the Godpup Siddha and the Vami Siva. And the words are present. He was like. And now everyone is closed because of Internet. Otherwise say that he's gone. That instructions now in the Prabhupada said Guru is the man. So he's given us the books. And the books are actually the ascension of everybody. Not only us, but the other followers. So carry out the sanctions of the third personal. I had a great opportunity that he gave me a lot of personal instruction. Some disciples they need some personal instructions. But unless the general instructions are there, they call restored holy places. So congregation one time told me I spent the prophet Amen on the loser. So I never fulfilled about him unfulfillable. So anyway, can hear from others, understand the instructions and carry out the best vulnerability. What is there to answer all that? Well, you know, to execute with love and devotion. Out of love serve. The spiritual master wants to know when a Brahmachari devotee wants to take Vikasta. What are the steps he should take first? See, the idea of this clock is that we're fighting to maintain our shallow life. So there's like a fire on the rising sun. So if I'm good enough to fight, if he needs better, that's all right. You should change. You should approach it and change the light as a Brahmachary standard on shoes. Searching for what? Not the ideal situation. It said that Brahma Vegas Abdhra. He uses Rakshasa. So kidnapped a woman fence Bharu is Dharma. Maybe. What do you want to call him? Dharma. But he dresses Sannyasi to do it. So it's a Sanyasi Rama Shai. We don't want to double standard. So if someone is a Rama Shai, they want to take your answer. That's all right. 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