20091217 || Bhagavad-gītā Class (17.2) || USA #JayapatakaSwamiArchives

Transcript of a December 17, 2009 YouTube recording of a Bhagavad-gītā class led by Jayapataka Swami with participant Jagata. The dialogue centers on Bhagavad-gītā 17.2 (types of faith tied to the modes of nature), the possibility of spiritual advancement under a bona fide guru, and practical examples: personal anecdotes, illness and recovery stories, and demonstrations of selfless devotional service (bhakti). The tone alternates between scriptural exposition, personal reminiscence, and devotional testimony.
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Samasi Katik the supreme personality God had said, according to the modes of nature acquired by the embodied soul, one's faith can be of three in goodness, in passion or in ignorance. Now hear about this purport. By divine grace, those who know the rules and regulations of the scriptures but out of laziness or indolence give up following these rules and regulations are governed by the modes of material nature according to the previous activities in the mode of goodness, passion or ignorance, they acquire a nature which is of a specific quality. The association of the living entity with the different modes of nature has been going on perpetually. Since the living entity is in contact with material nature, he acquires different types of mentality according to his association with the material modes. But this nature can be changed if one associates with a bona fide spiritual master and abide by his rules and the scriptures. Gradually one can change his position from ignorance to goodness or from passion to goodness. The conclusion is that blind faith in a particular mode of nature cannot help a person become elevated to the professional stage. One has to consider things carefully with intelligence in the association of a bona fide spiritual master. Thus one can change his position to a higher mode of nature.
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No stopping ears.
So you didn't.
They didn't. So you can.
You can speak on your objective during your content. What you know.
We want to hear. Yes, yes, we want to hear.
The question is whether you have faith, ignorance, passion or goodness. Or there's another level which is Vasta Deva, pure goodness. So you want to hear in pure goodness the devotional level which is transcendental. That's ideal. Otherwise. So there's different kinds of faith. So everyone may have a faith that want to renounce passion or goodness or fear. So the year has not been long by my spiritual master. Everything here in pure goodness and otherwise I pray for the other religions. So this could be maintained in a lot of ignorance or. And then some people that like and they give. They give houses and employment things. Then there's the faith that in the mother of our goodness which is transcendental. So this is based on shastra, based on Radhara authority. Not just otherwise people have pain also just because any great person or some that they like. He said some noisy Guys that this is a good product advertised something advertised famous person that seems Archer Tiger Woods. They get millions of dollars for the sponsorship of 700. So he does a famous person said this is a good thing. Should I something like that tennis player. But that's all the model catches there. First player is fish Crimson and then Oligon is Zakhov. I don't want to visit. So Tiger that gives some details that other scriptures are given. Like a job before him how Lord Chaitanya came into a new world. And he was an impressive life. But it tells God I'm only going to move into the next. Let me push on solution why Lajayana is the park where Lord Shaitanya lives. There Lord Shaitanya is being made. What we heard and we asked why is it in here in the universe the vabbada of the 400 Brahman. There the Kaliyah is going to start and all the yoga come down and you deliver. Otherwise I'm very worried for them how they work with me. So I'm going to appear in the hand in the universe of the hand of the Brahma the partners and I'm going to. There's all of God really. There are dark rajas. There are India. Until some distant members of anyone escapes by gift of Allah. Then I understand that little Indian little to the western country shall feel proud body which say that he was ordered by his guru has reached the west India. He went to the West India all over the Western world. And then according to Rabbi said I who are go and wishing to the people about the greatness of India culture in their family. They're following the voices. They're going to do what to say. They're going to. I don't know the exact words. Entertain the voice. So I want to do something and I'm hard to do it. This is our people come from the west India have seen Indian cultures still alive very active. So he started Krishna movement in India. I was sent India to his lieutenants to serve and ran Astra Krishna a number of people who are changing India. I oversee visa and son India Lenin although I do lose it. And I study over there a little bit. So this is how with my sickness I was a lot of time in London. Otherwise, somewhere in India we have 100 rankshas. And this is all because of dropouts and nursing. But we have 1200 dragons all over the west of the world. So which is directly the problem? Sharia said there's 108 million diameter of security. Nothing is about 300k like that. It's been preaching earlier. Earlier 10 years. Almost Done. So then he invited all the Arani Ryotis who are here. And Elijah comes in and participates in the test. Then he told Naramuni the Lord tell Balaram. Yes. So Dalran him and Vidyana like this. So all these details are building. We have taken in honor. It's a. It doesn't have a lot of philosophy, but has a lot of Leela. And I think it has a Leela that nowhere else attention. So like as a dash sign. I think I told us at the Yatra as a dash sign. And he gives at Loy St. John. When he was about three years old. There was a group of puppies that came up to the house. So he did one pudding and he hugged it. And he said, this body is my hand. So he carried over on him. He was singing Padi in the house. And his honor said, what are you doing? You're both going. You're gentle in dog in the house. That's the Baronic culture any country. I'll watch. The mother of the dog came up. The mother Zessi would believe she introduced the dog. Now later on the dog has the dog and harm what she's done. I started to jump and then I was unusual. He was going on sick. At first I thought why are you looking? I get angry. I said. I realized don't get angry. It's natural. They're simple people. So then I heard and they laughed prayer and unusual. So then the dog died. And there's a sound light in him. He looks up and saw this light propelled by Mongols at their division. And from this dog by. So we saw this with him the dog watching them. He hugged the dog and the dog. So I'm writing a book. Gotta do the digestive. I write a book which is the Chejen Cherida Rawa Chejen Marlowe. Also other books combine all writing health centers each other doesn't like to repeat that he didn't even write other authority. So Hempton says, you got to read all the books each look at some other detail. But they don't repeat the same thing. There's also the song details. I got Lord Chitten onto his sixth birthday idea that Krishna looked together. Satan looked at all nations a little. So I change on the model. I give some test and other books of him and some it adds a little bit his literature also choosing bottle. So he told the Lord at the same time that he's coming also there. So then like this questions. Hello. It.
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We were talking on 17 chapter Bahadin is about the magicians of faith. And they said this thing and yesterday was the appearance at losing dad's temple. Shai told Avila and they were told the other that we were together in a bio about the floppy dog and a little Mary. When you learned what would you like to share? Not really unconscious, but seniority standing but at the Indonesia Hospital at Raspuni had three doctors around the clock overseen. And then sometimes one of the senior doctors like Shamrock or they invite me down to the hospital and they're not seeing it but by speaking regularly or they get conscious. The doctors had said that they said you never saw anybody survive. If he does survive and maybe then he'll be understood and healing like a vegetable. His son saw machines they didn't stop. Then he went to his a yatra in Virnam had yatra as some of the Lord didn't know who I was or him boys that saw me on the other side. I'm son Sharon. This Sharon went to the after in. In my phone and he said see the three last year what? So there's a curse of the boys all over the world. 4,000 boys multiplied by a thousand times is like 4 million. So yeah, that was usually my dominance multiplied by a thousand. Anyway, all grand things happen. And this year I've been having a lot of association of iron astronomy. Then I will hear the class the rugged support. One thing I don't know is his wife shared the same thing I have.
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There in the Chotaki temple. They're always laughing so many laughs here he looks serious like there. I don't know. They're always the legend. I never heard them so much. But it's all just a very wonderful opportunity. And he's very loving and holy. So I'm very honored to have this a little bit only in here in Gorgo. I'm very glad to have these associates.
Here.
I was trying to promote the graphs for ideas many professional devoted to our disciples. The elders of gentlemen. So he gives them in the. In this hospital the doctoration nurses that were they did have maybe 50%, 60%. I still not call the lawyers but 40 or 50% aren't your voice. So at hospital is also amazing a special care. When I was in he said care is our process.
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Sam I believe that you have.
Been discussing devotion and emotive because they didn't speak. I would like to speak something about the person who speaks about reference to devotion beyond ignorance means.
To do the.
Wrong thing at the wrong time with the wrong People with the wrong intent. Devotion with the intent to hurt others, to exploit is in motivateness, emotion, that.
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Desire to remove our own material situation to get prestige, fame, wealth is Rajabuddha. The Moana Devotion is actually meant for the philanthropic well being of other living beings. It's done with honesty without selfish desires is even more purpose. Devotion which is purely selfless in a sphere of spiritual compassion to others through the pleasure of the Lord is transcendental. What we witnessed last year was a.
Great.
Blessing froze in the world. Sometimes great personalities are put in very, very difficult situations to teach us.
What real love.
Chandra Thak Maharaj had a stroke.
Where.
The top doctors of India claimed there was not even 1% chance that he could survive in that state where he was in some kind of a coma. Quite a lie. Thousands and thousands and thousands. If only tens of thousands all over the world. The hearts can come together that way. Praying for him. It's human nature that we do not cherish the value of something unless it's taken away or about to be taken away.
I go now, Yatri.
We have about 4,000 devotees and the intensity of prayer in every place we went to. It really purified everyone's heart. Just to focus our consciousness on the well being of a great devotee who has dedicated his life and soul to love for above us. When he did come to consciousness, not long after, I got a phone call.
From him.
Asking if he could come to our temple particular Sunday to give a lecture. So I said, of course, please. And then I made a joke. I said, maharaj, why don't you also come to our Pune country? We have about 5,000 devotees there. I knew he couldn't come. It's an eight hour drive, round trip. Just came out of critical condition. Can't walk, can hardly talk. He was so enthusiastic. He said, I don't think they'll let me go. But the doctors are your students. If you tell them. I didn't say, how can I tell them too much. But the day we're about to leave, I get a call. This is a couple weeks later. And he's been talking about it ever since. And all the doctors in the hospital tried to dissuade him. No, no, it's too dangerous. It's not good for your health. Eight hours in rows, I'm driving. And then the pressure of going from 4,5000 people and giving lectures. It's too much pressure, too much travel. You shouldn't go. But he was very humbly insisting. So finally they wanted to end it. Once and for all by getting the main surgeon, the main doctor. If he says no, then it's no. So they approached him and he said for him to go and give that lecture will be the best thing for his health. Director of the hospital they asked how is it possible? All of this traveling, all of this stress, how could this be the best thing for Israel? And he said, because what will make him better is to be happy. And this man's only happiness is to serve others by giving them God's love. At this point, this is Jagata and he came. And for most of us, if we had any, if we have any placebo being carried up on a raised platform in front of 5,000 people and droolers coming out of his mouth and can't properly see and have to put drops in his eyes every few minutes and drops in his mouth every few minutes. Who would want to be in front of a large crowd with video cameras in that state? But for Maharaj wasn't about how he looked. It was about servants. It was about serving others, being an instrument of compassion to others. He spoke for an hour and a half. And every single one of those people in that crowd was weeping in gratitude. They were so moved. Such selfless service, such love beyond material impediments. And that was just the beginning. Went to Mayapur shortly after that. I was giving seminars and lectures every night. Hundreds of thousands of people is giving.
Us.
What God is teaching us. What Krishna is teaching us through him is what is the substance of an actually realized sacred person. Are ethically to live for the welfare of human beings. Even at great cost, even at great conscience. And actually for someone who is connected, connected to that divine love pushing within, taking hardships for the love for of others is the greatest pleasure. Bhakti Namdakur wrote this beautiful prayer that the hardships and sufferings that I endured for the well being of others is the greatest pleasure in our. We read about it but it really gives us faith and realization when we see people living by this divine principle. And for this we are Forever grateful to Ms. Holiness Jaghada who has taught us devotional service beyond the plane transcendental love.
Thank you. Prayed by someone said that our duty is in the eye of his beholder. All is good. All is that because he is such a nice father? He is such a nice Lording. He sees good God feeling in some of us. If this is I did the job that I have a certain addiction to facing the boy some. And here also he does. In India there's a thousand People who are very much imposed by his teaching. And so. And he teaches the ramsharys and the Mahasis how to work together. Not only his children, other his legislators are in his ashram. They're taking care of by the counselor groups. So I let ears give his association. I hindered and giving my selfless service assistant education. I struggle. Christians from in the top also did a 45 minute class in the evenings. And 10 to 15 people come. And during that chef they also as I said would become a chain kicker somebody some doctors.
And.
No, I don't know. I only saw a little bit that kind of really I wrote a bit. And because they felt used my right hand, my right hand start poisoning. They said who's it or lose it. So I think it's by the teeth and that he said mine is still therapy. So there said the people should not go down stand up, put my hand up. So they're having a lot of fun. So they did the right kind of care of his disciples. And I came here because they said the American therapy is better. So I'm carrying on and walk without any sisters right now. I have sent the day of order at 2,600 step director.
But.
Eventually I'll be able to without any assistance from the cave or something. So that's a question.
I was listening to one lecture with you talking about the hardships of Haridaske Purse. And in that lecture you also mentioned.
About one you were mentioning.
There is a universal principle.
And then you mentioned about.
And I like that pastime and the one maybe someday if you would like.
To share that because.
And I would like to mention.
I found.
It the hardships, how to get the mercy. The way you were mentioning was so interesting. So you like to share that are grateful. And this gratitude is not just to be grateful for things that we like. Some people are ungrateful for the good and the bad. It takes a special soul to be grateful for the good things that we receive. But real gratitude is when we are grateful. We see that everything is inherently good that we receive. Even the reversals, the challenges, the failures, the persecutions. To be grateful for the opportunity to turn to God, to love God. In that situation, he's going through persecution, physical suffering, emotional suffering, being rejected, being beaten and thinking that this is the glory of God, this is the grace of God, this is good fortune. Because in that situation you humble him to come. My question is in reference to the laws of nature. When you were discussing about different modes and how faith is exhibited in those different modes. So if we have same family members or people that we have previously grown up with who have these different modes of faith. How should we communicate to them in a way to increase their faith, knowing that they're in those moods and at the same time encourage them. And how do we go about being able to do that from the self personally Sas.
My mother came to. I saw, you know, parents in the 1960s and 70s. As she came to take the debt. She said, why do you want to leave a feast so the 19,000 cameras. So I told her how long I had to. And she said Rama, why have joke with me? No mother of father can say how long the children have lived. So how can you say that I survived old if you can't say how long live? Okay, so why do you have become a Hindu? Please, I haven't got recently. I said, lord, call my guru and my guru. Under his guidance, under his hair. I got what I did in other hats and showed bow like this. So at the end of the she became a little beautiful. And she came to see me in my area. And every time she met our children, my mother and my father had divorced. My father was son. He said that I reject you as a child. I no longer my son. Our son is a son. So I take you know this. But I didn't know what to tell him at the time. I thought they'd be very healthy. Here I was, I was, you know, wandering around. As I came around, my body was so great and wonderful chairman. I thought he'd overjoy. He rejected me. She came and talked to me as a lady. So it wasn't so easy as I thought. That's a good question to ask. Later when she came seeing in mind and she's all nice and she's doing all that how many people were pitying. She became much more pitiful. She wore a shari and she would cut the roses for her body. But on his desk. So God said Osheetah glory. And I walked in routers fishing to another. You are not this body. You are living parts in the life. So I never heard use that term living parts before. So he said living part. So I thought that was interesting because it was a simple language. But I wanted to understand. So I guess he became available.
Me.
Later my mother, she did some. She lived in Iran. She found my sister. She was by profession she tried to help make some funds. She tried to raise some funds for LA. And she was brought over to Galls by 12. She started there when she was sick. I wrote her to the Orleans Gentle she lived for about three years in an apartment across the street. And she stood by turning her food and she would ask him why would she walk from the room and attend the room? She room this side, that side. Wherever I go Surrender is all Washington. So she had some special dinner with surroundings on her way she gone she learned a larger so what I should tell your parents Good luck. I don't know. As you said, he had different pain. Probably they had did it all over here. I would have presented things much more fine. And today there I heard recently that's what my mother did. She would go and talk to her parents that if my son is a hard grade son, it's not Satan. You don't really know. She's like talk to the parents. So sometimes if they don't hear from the child they think you and I are all crazy. But especially when there's tennis or friends they hear from older versions and they take it more seriously. So that's why I say to a lot if there's older people who are able to talk to their parents maybe that's an easy way because they think they're all prevented at all ever dropped. So after a while my mother gave her. She put in her will that she wants her ashes through again. So she doesn't valuable. I took her actions and I put it in Ghana. When she reversed it, she told me she had a relationship experience then what the experience was. She already told me it took a while for him. My father took eight years, my mother took her just a year. But if you know your granddaughters or you know your parents, you know that you can have a reflex reaction to any other. That's a quite normal reaction. But I don't know how you got from a whole. If you're able to expand right away within your understanding and desire taste then hopefully you understand. I want you guys to do a TV show and camera and the artist devotee and there is a very professional actor who attended the partner of my father. And there's a talent, a doctor, a social worker, a lawyer village. My father gave me a bicycle motorcycle and I was that was it. Now I'm using it to serve Krishna. So if you go to that I raised the Bible, see He gave it to me whether I serve Krishna or server. He said Ashram started and then I received death. And so when he said I will know this channel. They're talking amongst themselves and they knew that I was really hard to voyage. So they said he really believes in what he's doing. One of the early wonderful actually leave inconceivable he was Dr. So there the point is if you have chance to realize if you're really healthy and you're right for them to call them then you know when you stand to this chance of they'll be very faithful if they think that you're going to cut off or go.
Mother and father first king Jacidia 1989 very great transformation in their appreciation for Christian consciousness Association with Buddhist Srila Jataka Maharaj explained that they wanted to go sight swing so we went on a boat to the Alessandra Island.
Those are.
What I'm about to say makes your name very accurate. My mother middle class conservative American housewife from the Midwest north of Chicago not far from Wisconsin. And she gets off the boat and she's walking in the elephant island. Suddenly she was face to face with a monkey. And the monkeys showed his sharp teeth to my mother and then jumped toward her and grabbed her purse. And she was holding onto her purse screaming and helping purse away from her. It had her passport, her airplane tickets, her credit cards, all. All her money, my father's money, my father's passport. Everything was in my mother's purse. And the monkey grabbed it ran away and climbed up a tree. My mother was experiencing culture shock.
Chicago.
In Midwest you don't get attacked by.
She was really.
She started crying. You know, she took my purse. Everything I have everything we have is in the purse. So I. I saw somebody close by selling bananas sitting on the ground. So I just gave. Gave him a ruby and took him a banana. And then I saw the monkey was on a branch of a tree all over hearse. And I threw the banana a monkey I mean I think threw the monkey a banana. And in order to catch the banana he let go of the person first rolled out. I returned the purse to my mother and she was so proud of me. I went home next a few months later back to see relatives. They were saying oh she was. Your mother was saying how intelligent you are. Thank you.
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