20091228 || Bhagavad-gītā Class (15.16) || USA #JayapatakaSwamiArchives

Ayana sa sami sam jind.

Very happy to be here again tonight and to see that the oris that I saw and also the seeds on the oris or unseen personal dynam and to see Adet Ru, my dear brother. Today I think other secretaries are tasted. They're very happy.

Especially the doctor, Dr. Achuda.

I was not allowed to fish.

A little fish.

So it was very nice.

So we have the la.

This is older version.

White paper for questions.

White paper.

White paper. No, no, he's not gonna read. Somebody has to read.

How's everyone?

There are two classes of being, the fallible and infallible. In the material world, every entity is infallible. In the spiritual world, every entity is called infallible. Shall I read it again? There are two classes of being, the fallible and infallible. In the material world, every entity is fallible. In the spiritual world, every entity is called infallible.

Sorry, ma'. Am.

Shall I read the purport as already explained? Purport By His Divine grace Ac Bhaktived Vedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada as already explained, the Lord in his incarnation as Vasudeva compiled the Vedanta Sutra. Here the Lord is giving in summary the contents of the Vedanta Sutra. He says that the living entities who are innumerable can be divided into two classes, the fallible and the infallible. The living entities are eternally separated, part and parcel of supreme Personality of Godhead. When they are in contact with material world, they are called jiva bhuta. And the Sanskrit word given here, Sarvani bhutani, means that they are sallyable. Those who are in oneness with the supreme personality of Godhead, however, are called infallible. Oneness does not mean that they have no individuality, but that there is no disunity. They are all agreeable to the purpose of the creation. Of course, in the spiritual world, there is no such thing as creation. But since the supreme Personality of God. Since the supreme personality of God had stated in the Vedanta Sutra that He is the source of all emanations, that conception is explained according to the statement of Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Krishna. There are two classes of men. The Vedas give evidence of this. So there is no doubt about it. The living entities who are struggling in this world with the mind and five senses have their material bodies which are changing as long as the living entities are conditioned. Once body changes due to the contact with the matter, matter is changing. So the living entity appears to be changing. But in the spiritual world, the body is not made up of matter. Therefore there is no change. In the material world, the living entity undergoes six birth, growth duration, reproduction and then dwindling and vanishing. These are the changes of the material body. But in the spiritual world the body does not change. There is no old age, there is no birth, there is no death. They are all existence in oneness. It is more clearly explained as Sarvani Bhutani Any living entity who has come in contact with matter, beginning from the first created being Brahma down to the small end, is changing its body. Therefore they are all fallible. In the spiritual world, however, they are always liberated in oneness. Srila Prabhupada the key.

There are two.

Classes of beings, the fallible and the infallible.

In the material world, every entity is fallible.

And in the spiritual world every entity is called infallible.

Yeah, it's working.

So if they have questions, who they.

Write to is a study?

Yes, you can write to her every question. So here we give you the basis of theater. If you get an inspired any question it should be something on top, but we can take any question Krishna conscious.

George.

Tells us about two kinds of beings. Those in the material world and those.

In the spiritual world.

In the material world there are probable in the spiritual world they are called as impellable. Hare Krishna. Hare Krishna. Welcome. So.

Pall.

They're subject to make mistakes through.

Invari.

Sometimes.

And.

They are illusion. Just like we went to the la. What's it called? The planetarium. So they said well, some tribal people they thought that the sun came out.

Of the.

Came out one side and died. Born every morning and died every night. So they use this to see that scientific discoveries at South Dance. Of course, at the end of the day they said well, the modern observations are in contradiction, but all are parameters. But anyway, so first to make establish themselves they showed that okay, the trial people thought like this. What they said at the end was that they really didn't know. But they're going on with their research and maybe somebody they figure out just like these charm people, they are subject to being illusion. Some scientists they were given the Nobel Prize. Later it was discovered that they had cheated. They knew that it was rare so they'll try to duplicate their research. And found that what they said was not great. But to duplicate you it takes millions and millions of dollars start to years before they could duplicate. In the meantime, they already were famous.

As the.

Model prize winner Johnson. Later it was taken back and they were found retreating the subject to a Cheating illusion, impelling senses. Like we see the moon or the sun. It looked like it was so small in the sky. 10 years in current day is other. She said don't cry, don't care. I'll give them anything you want. He'll give them anything I want, mother. Oh yes, I want the moon. I want the moon. So the moon looks just so legal and scary. Did the mother get the moon? It still happened. The moon went behind the clothes. You see the moon is in their splendid for you. Because the moon has got black marks on the face. But your face is unvarnished pure golden gold. So we have empiric senses and they think that the moon sozi.

On both.

The sides of the earth cheating. We make mistakes and sometimes we make obvious mistakes. What's an example of mistake you.

Sometimes.

They served as probably green beans. They thought beans are vegetable. But beans, we shouldn't take any kind of beans. So they. And then they said all green beans. Oh no, I wrote any kind of stuff. So you had to take it. I always one time Yiddish Shar gave me some green thing. Etc, I couldn't see so I said what does that mean? I said that means. Oh no, it's psychiatrist. But I asked how you did it.

It's the thing I can.

Oh, there's a mistake. I made a mistake. Something like that. You may make mistakes. So these four. These legs are there. That's our Kalua souls. The guru, he only receives what he heard from his guru or the shastra. So what he says from the shastra, that's infallible. Otherwise he's not the sinister. He may make a mistake other things because he won't repeat anything. He won't say anything without qualifying it if it's not coming from shastra. Therefore he doesn't make mistakes. But in the spiritual there are in hell they are having a surge of bodies which are not subject to the same illusion as material bodies. So Narada Muni was a conditioned soul.

He was.

Chanting Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna.

Krishna Krishna, Hare, Hare Hare.

And as a result at the time 100 flash hope he looked down and he saw a dead body and spiritual body all near one his spiritual life only one he get again and again. He's a chair bunny.

Because that's the body.

Do you want spiritual body or do you want material? No, I'm listening. You don't have any decision.

No, I'm just listening. Just keep on going. So what kind of body we get.

We get to prepare ourselves in this lifetime. So if we want, if we have.

Developed our spiritual desires.

If we develop our devotional service, then we qualify to become an associate with the Supreme Lord. And then we get a spiritual body. If we only have our. See, the idea of the material life is that we can satisfy our material desires and move forward to our spiritual desires. So sign by sign into both. So it's naturally that while we're in the material world we have some material desires. So especially the Grihacht Ashram is meant to really satisfy these desires. At least we realize that they can never be fully satisfied. But we experience other many ugly things. In the ninth candle of the Sriran Bhagavad Maharaj and he married with a digital denizen from the author Andrei Shristal. So they had many kinds of relations and they love each other. But then here they say that, you see, I'm like an old goat and you are like a female goat. I'm like an ego. So we are enjoying. But after some time we should go to the higher Brahma Shogun. We should go to higher happiness and as a growth we're not going to experience it. So at the end of their life they. They give up a lot of Praksha. They give up their sensory adaptation and they start to focus on spiritual life. So this was the right service, Maharaj. So it's a good way then together they both practice God consciousness. So while we're in the Mihasa life at that time, they can experience what is the material happiness. Also what is the material sadness they come to what is the happiness? It's like having a child that gives us happiness. But if the child gets sick and heal death, it's a natural thing. So we take care of the child, get the child grows up not to be a grand conscious child or not to be pyro. That may God says something. But this is part of material life. Every individual has the freedom to be whatever they want when they grow up.

So.

I think Ajay, he seems the fortune his children or what they met. Anyway, they seem to be fairly Krishna masters. So also Anura Krishna, her son and daughter took a sign for me. I think they want to do lots of Krishna. So these are all very good qualities. It says that there's the six kinds of children mentioned in the Padravarana. There's three kinds which are not five kinds of children. There's those due to the bad karma. Because of bad karma we have a sound and that causes us troubles. A child because of debts. They had some debts, so they don't want child. So that way they armitate from the parents to get the debt, pay debt. We also get a child who's an enemy is our childhood. Then there's a child which is a silputra or silputri which is very good who is a devotee who tries to serve the parents, who gets shut out after the parents die. So this is a very good child. Then there's the Udra Singh. There's a child who really doesn't care anything about the family.

They don't want to cause any harm, they don't want to do any good.

They're Udasi.

Other fine handle children.

Only the one client is very good Shilputra or Shilputri they said, spoken by one lady to her husband who they had no children. She said, well what's the guarantee we'll get good children?

You could get one of these, their children also.

So whoever it is that we get as a child, as a parent, naturally we love the child. But some children, they may not reciprocate with that love. So we want wherever the Vihaans come, they're pregnant or something. I have a silputra which is devotees.

Long lived healthy.

Because these are things that now they're in the chair life. We hope that there'll be a Subu draft. So one of my God brothers, he came to see me in Los Angeles. He told me he did. He went to Gaya and he did this Rana for his deceased mother. Afterwards his mother came in the dream. Thank you very much. So it said Vihaj says it's quite reasonable for them to hope that their children will perform the shraga ceremony after they died. There's a pastime of Lord Caitanya he had as his servant go Limigosh. So here is Lord Kami as a.

Sannyasi and on me he said I.

Have too much for Shah.

Saying Yideshar.

Would let me pay too much for Shahra. But.

Our doctor has gone here nearly 15 minutes and he has heart turkey. So he gave him some heart ducky. So Lord Shaitan ate the heart Chakti. His stomach was good, he did a little rest, you know not next day they went untarged. What is it called that Andre? I forget what the items are called. Anyway, this larger gentleman again he asks I need some Hari tucky for digestion. This time the secretary in a few seconds he gave the ari to you. I saw. Lord Chaitanya said how yesterday it took you 15, 20 minutes. It only took you less than a minute. Oh, I kept Some that I thought you might need it. It's a reasonable thing, right? Lord Chaitanya said this is the mentality are the Grihasas. The Grihasas saved her rainy day. They saved her. The emergency bathing in natural says depend on Krishna. So you have to become a grasshop. He was a Ramachandi. He was not expecting a rehearsal. But Lord changed. No. He had to become Niyasa. So he had Ayurveda took him. He found a wife. He married, had a son. He was worshipping the deity of Gotina. But then his wife died of a. The wife died of his stains. Like a say to James Lad. Why is I married and my wife died. And then all of a sudden sun died. My Lord St Johnny asked me good night. My wife died, my son died. What is who Sahib came ready to start. So the deity serves for a dean are disrupted. So the deity spoke to him. Why you're not making all things untimely. He said Lord Shaitanya asking leave your house done. I literally carried out his order. I had a nice wife and son. God died. So I'm feeling right there. Especially I don't have any son. And then Roti Nadiri said no, I'm your son. I'm my son. But not like that. You're not going to run my charter channel. It's like running a shouted channel. You'll link to all these on time. Okay, I call those leaders. He called all the leaders. And the deity spoke to them. On the death and anniversary of the Indigos. When he leaves his body idols performed his charter ceremonies. Write it down in the village record. So they were surprised. Of course. As you see a deity doesn't think. Aditi is thinking. He wrote down. So he went there on the occasion of the anniversary of the the death of. And the deity Gopina was taken to his tomb. And there the deity performed the Pindi the shah. So this they brought the deity like sulking. And then took the deity in the Gujarat pulling inside the dude. So there I was in the corner watching while the police were toothy. Please doing the shot now just like they would do with the ordinary shot. Of course the deity like this holding the flute. So they touched the deity hand dropped the the sesame and rice. And form small little pinda little hills. They did the all ceremony. Now sun hills said they saw the deity become like a loy. A dhrami ceremony. I didn't see that particular. But I did see even the devi was feeling different. It was like the devi became very personal, very sought A very sermon, you know. Outside there was like lacks of people. And trying to look and see what's happening. I was fortunate. I was inside outside. One side was a lady. One side of the men, the lady. One lady pulled the other by the hair. She gets. It was wild. I didn't look out. Wow. What's going on? My secretary was holding the door.

Someone come in.

He somehow had on his watch. Then he had a.

He had.

The skin was on. There's a really. Well, I found we can organize nice systematic system tool dialogue. But they are understood. But anyway, still today, after 500 years is boring. The is for far I got excited. So tell me, is still performing the strata soundline.

So every year, huh? Every year.

So anyways, if you want these children they should perform this rather ceremony for the parents. By the parents. I took Our Satari About 200 devotees to God Gaya Rishu Gaya. So I went to Gaya and they gave there they have the Vishnu tag, the footprint of Lord Vishnu. So they have to sit down, show me his name was Bhakti. Afterwards they gave an oil of all lotus footprint of Adrisha to all the loyalists. And they showed him in 1971 Bhakti Daksha Swami Prabhupada. And I was there too. And I. They had all this book. Everyone who visited. They had a recorder for hundreds of years. So they had stacks of these books. So they had the look of Prabhupada. And he visited. Of course, if he it is not a male issue, then the oldest, the daughter has still performed this. That's why they called Putra or putri. Because they can send their forefathers from hell. Phu is hell and TRA is short for Tran. So Chan is.

Now.

What's the currency from yesterday? The currency for yesterday was to draw the currency yesterday was putra Da.

So that they get a putra. Anyway, this is one side of the material world. Then in the surgery world, the intel we don't have. These material bodies get diseased, get sick. And as a result of different difficulties. Sometimes we close our faith in someone in the material world. But they cheat. They are staked. They are hell of soul. That's right. We cannot hundred percent defend anyone in the material world. Even Vinda Krishna. Even like Krishna service. But it came out people in the material world police. That's why the husband and wife they have to work as a team. They have to help each other to stay on the right track. In one case in Delhi, there was one family. And the white was Ka Conscious. But the Aden on it.

Kesa.

Life is meant to drink, eat meat, dinner, you know. Why are you wasting your time with this devotional service? Why are you wasting your time with Bachiha? You're not a good wife. The doctor, he developed blood sugar. The doctor told him, don't drink because you have blood sugar. If you think it's very dangerous. But he thought, why do these doctors know? And he got drunk and he had a crystal heart attack. And he didn't know that he was drunk. So he died on the spot.

So.

Then the whole family was accusing the wife. Why you have done? What did she do? She didn't do anything wrong. His husband did. Hajan was drinking. She told don't drink. Doctor told not to drink. Don't do all this. So you want a Christian conscience. Families, you see. But sometimes it's like that. One is a Christian conscience and one is environment. So.

We are trying to.

We want the families to work as a team together. So these dangers are there. If they organize a team at low tide devotees, then it's very secure for them. It's like a fortress. Very hard from Ryan to dungeon. So it's a Priya Raja Das, Priya Raja Maharaj. He was Ramachandra. But Manu came in and told him you should get married because you should become an ex, a king or mon or something. So he adopts. But then he was approached. I think my Lord ran off. That if you get married, it's like a fortress. You and your wife, you can keep the way to the right. That you should work together as a team. If you have a good one, say as Bhakti Nyotagur. What's the most important thing for someone to get rank? The most important thing is the spouse. If the spouse is Krishna conscious, then your very life is very easy to perform. So we want the husband wife should go to the Lord at that time. At least if one is a lording.

They can help to make the whole.

Family go back to garden. Especially the wives hanging on them. They ring up the children. It's a right one. Got a lot of wives here today. This lady.

Ram it.

What's your name?

Mina.

Mina. I met you right at the table.

I saw a bird in trouble.

Thank you. Okay, first question. Anyone else? Questions?

How many questions have I total here?

There's two.

Two. Anybody else? Okay, three questions.

Seven more minutes to nine.

Mathura. If our service towards our duties are inconsistent, consistent, do they stop manifesting themselves in their form? Should we tell our deities what are the standards we plan to follow Matura Dilesheri from Malaysia.

I didn't hear the first part.

If our service towards the deities is inconsistent, do they stop manifesting themselves in their form? Should we tell our deities what are the standards we plan to follow?

We should. Normally when the deedee is installed, we tell the DD what standard we're going to offer. We may change that from time to time. We shouldn't be aware of sifu. So yes, we should declare the deed that it doesn't make any change. It's not like it's very offensive. The deed may go away, but there's nothing. Not only is there a little bit elixir, the deity is dissatisfied. In the case of our Zerula deities. I told some last time at the Dagon relief temple that his one time Jared put salt and some sugar on China Reaper. And when he was driving that by bicycle, he saw some crazy guy laying on his head. He jammed up and pushed it off the bike and he fell down. And then he's laying there and then he thought oh, I must have done something wrong with Juggernaut. His journal is like that. He's very interactive. So if you lived on the state, he lets you know right away. So then he went back and he found that he put salt and so sugar in the chandalika. So the chandalika was taken right there. One time was he came and stole 20 or 50. I've yet vapes of cement from our journalists. That day one somebody who was knifed in the village saw the. What do you call it? Daruga Police saw the victor. He searched the whole village for this person who did ninth. So he went into every house. In one house he found 20 days of SNCC. So he said how you got this SNCC? That person didn't have the answer. He had Nainadari and so on. And so I said so that nature is a matter of use. A gentle nothing to persuade you. Wish you won't talk about here. It may not be going to mention anyway. That is very well. I'll never still again. Please forgive me and but they do things to show they're sorry. So it depends on your deities majority. That's right. How active, how they are. You get some reaction. What that reaction?

How it comes?

That depends on the deity. Some deities are very merciful. Like Lord Chaitanya. They don't take it very seriously. The radar Krishna worship we don't recommend for everyone. Because if you make a mistake radar is very intolerant. That why Ka being elected Krishna should be Taken care of. So Radhakrishna and also the Devi goes out there like he is a Devi. If you don't heal, he gets angry and she has a feed him. He may take symptoms through the curtain speak. But if you don't see them, take a baby, what the baby is doing out there, huh? Yeah. The other angle. So these deities, you have to be careful when you wish it. Hare Ka or the Bala Rupau. The Dharma, brother, is wonder. The genuine is pretty merciful. Guavan Thai is the most worshipful like that. So let's answer that question. Do you have that?

Yeah.

Here is Guru Maharaj. It said, ascend to each brain and beans on a catasy. In the spiritual world, Is it a sin to eat grains and beans on ecad in the spiritual world? Just a question.

Well, in the spiritual world, you don't have any spiritual. You don't have a material body. You don't really need to eat. This authority is full God as an opportunity to interact with his devotees. I didn't hear that there was any sins there. In the surgery world, no law of carnal either. Legal offense fall down into the material world. There's no such thing as sin in the spiritual world. It says they're in parallel. In other words, you entertain it. In this material world, there's sins and there's punya. And the two have separate accounts. So you do a sin, it doesn't cancel out. If you do punya, it doesn't cancel out the sin. You have to suffer sins. You enjoy the punyas. So if you do some devotional service, then they gans and lots of karmas. But otherwise karma doesn't cancel out each other.

So.

Who asked the question?

Who asked the question?

Who asked the question?

Like in the material world, everyone has individual features and personalities. Do souls in the spiritual world has individual features or are they all the same?

Everyone has individual features. Every knowledge, individual adherent has an individual relationship with Ka. And that will be so much difference. That's why Krishna makes all the Jesus. He makes individual souls. Each one is individual, separate each one. So we all have our personal relationship with Krishna. You like that? You like that? You like that? That's why the devotees of Hanuman. He was offered by Lord Rama, he could merge into the Jyoti. He said, no, no, I don't want. He wants to stay. You're the Nasser and his servant. I don't want anything to come in the way of that understanding.

Is it possible for a conditioned soul to love? How can we really love? Perfectly. Thank you. Very much from Enrique.

Is it possible?

Is it possible for a conditioned soul to love? How can we really love? Perfectly. Two separate questions.

See, the shared love is with.

The.

Individual soul to Ka. Because when we serve Krishna, he is please, we automatically heal. Please. When he gave great time, we didn't know that she would have eaten. She couldn't feed the 10,000 descendants of the Rasa he was hoping Rasa cursed them and made the hicks.

So.

Krishna, because he felt full, we all felt full. So when we please Krishna, he feels happy, we feel healthy. That only happens between us and Krishna. Other individual souls.

We try to love them.

We may give our love to them but seek their senses. And our senses are separate. So they only experience their own senses. Like if you make them happy, you don't feel happy. We need to get some sense reciprocation of self. Otherwise you don't feel anything. If you see someone happy, maybe. Like it said, the closest thing to love in the material world is saying mother to the child. The mother cares about the child that she serves that some extent that has some purity.

But.

There'S not 100% mature of love in the mature world. So self releases there because of the nature that we're made of. But please don't come close or you can't. It's not the same thing. So like with our friends. If our friends don't please us, we're making them up like some idea of print and you become erotic. Then they think, well by 10 years ago neon sin around us. Go and have fun together, go to McDonald's or something. And now the friend is not doing this. So what kind of friend I know, I reject. See.

So.

It'S rare to find a friend who go with you to fix that. Everyone is individual. So our friendship, our love in the material world is a little bit clouded.

Not to.

Sound stiffness but it appears.

To be like love but.

It'S an imitation. It's not 100% because of our nature. But sometimes you need to find someone who is close to it. But it's not exactly the same. Or devotion to Kaani of Hearlo. That's why the conditions show that in the mistakes. That's what I'm saying. They're talking about Haritaki. But it's good for the digestion. So it says. There's one story. Harikati is always good for your stomach. But mother is affection and always be good for you. When I joined Harvesha, my mother came and she said why do you want me a Hindu priest? It should be a Christian priest. I said, well, I met a guru and the guru is giving all this knowledge. And I feel that I should follow the guru in the kitchen. Hindu, us and we should follow what we believe in. Then she said, why don't you wait till you get old? Now you're young. So I asked her how long I have to live. She said, no parent knows how long the child lives. Why are you a fake angel? How can you tell me you wait till I get old. You're long till I live till you're old. So she had an affection for me. But at first her affection was not. Later she learned to accept Krishna, God says, and she started sharing herself. She said one question every time she go in the temple she said, why is Suzanna looking at me? Sudhara? She'd go this side, that side and she'd always think that Suzanne was looking at Adeloadi. But she took Rashad shadow Korra Today she was in her will. When she died she wanted to ask her friend again. But initially her affection was there but she was conditioned. So she thought, you know, the way she was conditioned. They think she appreciated what I did, but it took her some time. So like the mother may have a picture but they may not know it's really good.

So.

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