20091229 || Bhagavad-gītā Class (18.56) || USA #JayapatakaSwamiArchives

Recording of a Bhagavad-gītā class (verse 18.56) led by Jaya Pataka Swami (Dec 29, 2009). The guru expounds BG 18.56’s message that pure devotees engaged in activities under Krishna’s or the guru’s direction attain the eternal abode, illustrates this with temple-building anecdotes, and answers devotees’ questions about personal aspiration for Godhead after a stroke, scriptural mentions of Jesus, dealing with pride when empowered, and practical ways to balance material work with devotional life.
Translation and Prophet Though engaged in all kinds of activities, my pure devotee under my protection reaches the eternal and imperishable abode by my grace.
Purport.
The word Madhvyapa Shraya means under the protection of the supreme Lord. To be free from material contamination, a pure devotee acts under the direction of the Supreme Lord or is represented the spiritual master. There is no time limitation for the pure devotee. He is always 24 hours a day, 100% engaged in activities under the direction of the Supreme Lord. To a devotee who is thus engaged in Ka consciousness, the Lord is very, very kind. In spite of all difficulties, he is eventually placed in the transcendent labore or Ka Loka. He is guaranteed entrance there. There is no doubt about it. In that supreme abode there is no change. Everything is eternal, imperishable and full of knowledge. Though engaged in all kinds of activities, my pure devotee under my protection reaches the eternal and imperishable abode by my grace.
Hare Krishna Hare Kareesh Krishna Hare Krishna Hare Hare Krishna. Only sound audio so long one is having a various kinds of activities. Since devotee is engaged in all sorts of activities meant for the pleasure of the supreme monk.
So.
In fact, doing those different activities, the devotee is a guaranteed entrance into the spiritual world. Back to home, Back to Godhead. I was once approaching the problem, complaining that he was engaging me in building his buildings in Nyahbourne. But I didn't get much time to read his book. So then he got angry and he started raising his voice. Do you think that building my buildings is material? Do you think there's a difference between reading my books and building my buildings? So when the spiritual master addresses you like that, what could I say? Of course, engineering. So to develop management, we had to build all kinds of. Please take a seat. Any seat you like. You can sit on the chair.
It's okay.
You're healthy, you're satisfied. We want you to be healthy and satisfied. Your Darshan is the only thing that.
Is sufficient for that. So.
Kabad was. He was very emphatic that he wanted all his. He said, you're Westerners, you're Americans and Europeans. You should finish the building in very quick time. And you should work a double shift. I said, charlie, if I have to work from six in the morning till midnight, I wouldn't have time for the long life training. I want difficulty at 3,33 hours of sleep. He said, that's all right. You attended rural Puja, that's enough. But in the training 16 year olds. So he was engaging us to build the buildings very quickly. So I remember we built many buildings in just a couple months. And one government officer came down, he looked around, he said, how did you build all these buildings? It takes us two years just to get the planning and permission. I only got three months and all the buildings are here. Well, we are having, we are Planning permission was granted by Ponder Acharya Advocatenta Swami and we worked overtime. So he was amazed. He said, wow, you're building so quickly here. And once we were issued a letter asking whether we had permission to deal with the buildings. So I had to write a legal reply that stated that we didn't need permission because in the act there was provided for that we could deal with these things like that. You had to do so many different things. But Prabhupada was saying that even though this is all chance and done work, and in this verse it says that even though one may be engaged in various activities, because the devotee does activities either under the order or Krishna or under the order of the Guru of the spiritual Astra, therefore one is guaranteed to go back home, back to garden. Ruma Pad Swami right now is the chairman of the gbc. So he has to do a lot of different activities. But this is all part of the Bhakti Yoga.
The.
The devotees are not understood by the Gyani. The Jodis black yoes remain in Michigan because they appear to be engaged in material activities like Yasoda. She's cooking Nava kapishna and she's worried that Ka will hurt his tender feet on the hard stones of the Vrindavan. So as she is an anxiety, so they wonder how is it possible that she is in a transcendental position, but her anxiety as a mother is out of love for Ka. So if someone in devotional service didn't feel anxieties, but if it's for Ka, then it's considered to be transcendental. So our Kala gave an example that a thief uses a knife to Rav and a doctor uses a knife, a sigil knife, to operate and take on some tumor or heal someone to save their life. So the ninth is similar, but the purpose is different. So if one has the purpose to please Krishna, then it's transcendental. Just like if one Dr. Kuna satellite. So he's not considered guilty of any crime if he cuts the people, but a criminal when he cuts the people to steal their wallet or watch, he's considered a criminal and he can be punished, put into the jail. So According to the what's important is the purpose. If the purpose is to please Krishna and who is authorized by Ka or Naguru, representative of Ka, then the activity is transcendental and one is the anti drill back home back to God Baba Keith here in Los Angeles in New Zara he's the operations manager, something like that. And I show you the various activities bring the day. But this verse says and no matter what we do for Krishna, we can go back to guardian simply by doing these activities under the guidance of the representative of the Guru. The Guru or Krishna?
Hare Krishna, Hare Kriya Krishna.
We'd like to request good job to sing a song to sing a la Jung for Josie man while we get the questions.
Sa.
Shik Shivas jam.
You are the.
King of Baikun.
Talking in the pony.
Sa let's get a blessing. Hello to goodness. We got to use the giant turkey.
Dearest Guru Maharaj, please accept my obeisances. There are two questions. The first question is after your stroke, do you feel more urgently the desire to go back home?
I feel more urgently the need to fulfill the instructions that Prabhupada gave me here. Going back, I had the option of going that at that time I wanted to see the temple of Levy Planetarium in Niagara I completed and I wanted to fulfill certain instructions that Prabhupada gave. I didn't know it would be so tough to regain the help at that time with I certainly this is why getting more attached to Krishna and less attached to the material world. But at the same time I would really like to fulfill what the Bhagavad asked me to do.
Second question is, is it proper for me to constantly hanker to go back home? Well.
Is hankering to serve Krishna under any circumstances. But nice bless for the Utah that he either want to serve his son to go back to Godhead or go like to Godhead to serve Krishna. So if you serve Ka, let take care of everything we are automatically Godha. So it's a recommendation that we desire to serve ka? Yes, until Dr. Gandhi that's not a bad desire. That's a good desire. Prabhupada encourage that the devotees would desire like that.
There's a question for the Internet also.
Okay, Internet?
Yeah.
Can you tell us according to the Puranas, what are the predictions for the upcoming of Jesus Christ? Is he actually coming back? Or what does the Purana say about the Vedas? Say about Jesus Christ coming back?
I actually didn't read the voice of Quran. The voice of Quran tells Something about Jesus. It was written 5,000 years ago and it tells the future. So I just know that it says something about Jesus. Whether it says he comes again, I'm not sure. I would have to study the Vrishna Purana. It's one of the most distributed books because there's two, three versions. There's some types of verses which are not disputed and some types which are undisputed. Like in Bhagavad, there's only two verses which are disputed. In the Bhagavad Gita, there's no verses, only one that's disputed. So most of the scriptures are not disputed. But I heard that the Rishitrana is so on. There's a few different versions which of course still not many verses would be disputed, more than one or two of them. So some author says that Lord Chaitanya was actually the accounting that Jesus was predicting. Just he's himself the supreme Lord. I really don't know because I'd have to see what actually Jesus said that he was coming back. Exactly what he said in the original, whatever language levels in Hebrew or Greek.
And then.
Scholarly studied and then studied the Loshavrana to see if there's anything there. But for sure, Isa plutra Sanayana is mentioned. He is mentioned. Whether he's mentioned twice or not, he will come again. I'm not sure. That's not one of our normal readings. Who asked the question?
You have 20 people.
Thank you.
She's asking for blessings.
Friend.
Hare Krishna.
Hare Krishna.
Although engaged in the undertaking of Guru's instructions, we are to varying degrees, fending off our selfish desires, selfish drives, and the tendency to lord it over even spiritual activity. How do we deal with this pride, especially when we are empowered? So harsha.
Harja, harsha varna. Harsha means laughing, stunning happiness. Shavarna means temptation. So he mentioned he was fine. Wow. Everybody's fine. You really have the power. You see, I was asked to stay in my airport and develop my airport Saraja Prabhupada. Yes. I was feeling that I liked it. I liked saying India. I liked Indian people. I like the Mayoth. I liked to go to the Ganges and take holy dips. And I liked it. So I thought I felt guilty. Mainly I enjoy sense gratification because I like doing what the Guru asks. Is it all right to like it? I mean, I thought we should just do whatever the Guru asks, whether you like it or not. I mean, you shouldn't let your nose. Oh, I'm not doing this because Guru Said no, but here I was. He asked me to do something which I like to do. So Robert wrote back. He said, well, you're lucky. You're fortunate that you like to do what you do. I should do. That doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. You have to do it. So if you clean out our acres, part of the Krishna Consciousness experience is to satisfy our material desires so that we can put them behind us. Or at least to understand that they're never fully satisfied because the little ones keep coming up. Just like he told some Grihasta that the Vihasta life means that you have some license to enjoy, to have children. So that also gives them the. They can understand what is the material life. Now after, just like Kara Munin, he understood that was the entire life with Devilhuti. But then he wanted to take Sannyas. He wanted to lead it. So he had a prenuptial agreement with Devilhuti that after giving her a son, he could take Sannyas. So he gave her nine daughters and he would take Sannyas. And she calmly approached him and said, you're promised your son. Please don't take Sannyas yet. Give me one son. So he agreed. And his son was like, feel the money. The personality got him. Now he left and took Sannyas where she had the great fortune to bring up the person I regarded as her son. And the third chapter of the La Shu on Vagavatang shows that she asked many questions to Kavila Muni and his replies to her as far as conversation, which is in the third chanth of Ravagna. So the Prophet asked me if he should teach her mother, just like Karla Muni taught De Lahuti. But her mother didn't have so many questions like Diluti. But she was right here. She asked some questions. I tried to ice and check. Neither I feel one in neither she's anyway, so.
Now.
There was a Sannyasi wanting to secondly, like the Gantis, which is a very big up. Because my Ganges were 1000, I guess 500 kilometers long, maybe more, because it doesn't go sleeping so hurting back and forth. So. But Rakhisi on the side shot. He said, no, your feet. But he did anyway. He circulated the bandage, went one side up, crossed forward, gold look came down the other side, crossed over the Sagar island north of the Ganges. And he came back. Sargo's had a very big feet. He came back, but his gore was very dissatisfied. Why did you do this? Which was not for Written by me. So he denoted him doing a sannyas. He did what? He has done nothing. What sannyas does, said Ye Blackfield Brahmacharya and his services, the worship thoughts. So you don't want to do the things which are not approved by the Heshanagora. And if you'd like to do it, maybe that's all we need as part of our training to experience some material things like that. We should. We should do that. Yes. The Guru is asking us to do it. Yes. He gives us this, shall we say, service to them. The idea is that by experiencing the material happiness and distress they should learn something which will help us to become more Krishna conscious again. So if you don't do some digital or sense gratification, even if it's subholic, something tertia like circle isolating the gans, but it's not condoned by the Guru or Ka, then that's. And even if you do something which is sins material, but if that's authorized by the guru, then it's all right to do that.
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For Judy Ste.
Also send you, you know, all the love and say, you know, she says that she loves you and she's giving all her life to you and she prays every day for your.
Thank you Maharaj for your eternal association. We are truly blessed. You are giving answer to our questions. Your life is an example that answers our questions. Please keep guiding us as we pray to Lord Sri Krishna for your speedy recovery. The first question is how to balance material life with smart spiritual life. Well.
Under the guidance of your big Saguru to some extent. Sixth, the idea is that something so called material life is like a direct service to Ka. So it's very easy to balance. Just like something here in Nudarka, they're directly engaging in the service of the deity Israel. So that's there's practically very little material light. But say the majority of them are devotees, they work outside. So they're working for some material employers and they're doing business somehow they're making money. Sat said if they use all their money to serve Krishna, that purifies our activity. Also I think we used to ask the devotees to leave their college and join. But now, like in Chautauthati, one day I asked the devotees to complete their college work for a couple of years and then if they still want to, they can join the ashram. So the idea is that while they're in college they can preach and make other devotees and then the parents won't be Angry because if they leave then the parents are very angry. Boy, my child was not able to finish his dashuj and Master J they're very attached to that. So instead they engage the Let the child in any moments but let them preach. The other is he sometimes feels very ashray thing or I could have got a. A nice job, 25,000amonth or something. They think that they somehow they missed on something. So if they work outside they see that it's a bit tough. You don't always. Your thoughts are not always understanding. And maybe understanding sometimes they're a bit hard to say the most diplomatic ordinary confusion they are saying not understanding to say the least. In some cases they're very envious against their own employers. So also there's in the corporate corporate world there's a lot of kind of infighting to see who will get the promotion. So there's a lot of difficulties. So it song goes through that. And then if they decide to join the ashram, well, they're more likely to stay in the ashram. If they decide to lead a family life. Hello. If they decide to lead a family life, then they do. So sometimes they impeached that they were colleagues or sometimes they held the local temple. Like in some cases the little beach temple is held by some local congregation to accept their facilities and have marble altars on. I think that here in Nidarka there's a lot of congregational learners who help Rathayatra because in other festivals rathayatra takes a lot of money to learn rathiatra. So like that if they work outside and from the money they can contribute to the temple. So this way they can balance what they do with the material and the spiritual life. Of course, if you read the life history of Bhakti Mil Thakur he was amazing. At time of management we don't say anyone can really Entertain. He had 13 children and he had at the same time he wrote so many books and wrote so many psalms, wrote some newspapers, ran a non hatha congregation teaching with 250 to 500 branches at the age of 64 arms at the same time he was so.
How.
Do you know that it's a sutraheal so we can be inspired. It's possible to balance the things. So having our ka consciousness flows helps has the right thing to work together as a team. And they can do a little deviation in their home. They can take the shot. So they have to do some work to get some income to maintain the family. That work is considered as a neutral thing. I mean as long as it's not breaking any of the core principles like Internet. Working in a slaughterhouse or selling whiskey in a liquor store or something. Cooking meat in a restaurant. They know what they're doing. Like engineers and doctors, lawyers or other employees, they're not involved in any comic debt sessions. Their work is not a problem. So chanting the 16 rounds and things at home, drink some pizza at night a couple nights a week. This kind of balance of things. In America, they get Saturday and Sunday out and you get workers 9 to 5. Or in India, the solar engineers they call sweat doctors and work with 14 hours a day. It's much harder for them because they have very little time. In America at least, you only have so much crazy hours and you died.
You want to sit?
You want to sit or Continue? How long? 40 minutes?
44? 45 minutes. 45 minutes. Enough in the night?
Yes.
He's doing good. There you go. What time is it?
9.
20 after 9. You have to be very quiet.
Tomorrow we have to leave at 7:30 for the appointment with the eye doctor. So if you want to cut it short.
Yeah.
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