20101102 || Class (Bg.12.11) & Question and Answer Session || ISKCON Juhu, Mumbai, India

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So I'm a little late because I was praying to the deities for.

So.

I'd like you all to chant Mahamantra for the so please the Lord for her recovery. Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna in addition, we heard from Niranyan Rahara. I think that Pranachandra is also in the hospital in Moscow. So let's chant for him too that he may recover and get over this test. Hare Kae Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Hari Rama Rama Hare now read from the 12th chapter. I think the verse yesterday was 10th, so today will be 11th.

If however, you are unable to work in this consciousness of me, then try to act giving up all results of your work and try to be self situated. Purgah Prabhupada it may be that one is unable even to sympathize with the activities of Ka Consciousness because of social, familial or religious considerations or because of some other impediments. If one attaches himself directly to the activities of Ka Consciousness, there may be objections from family members or so many other difficulties. For one who has such a problem, it is advised that he sacrificed the accumulated result of his activities to some good cause. Such procedures are described in the Vedic rules. There are many descriptions of sacrifices and special functions of punya or special work in which the result of one's previous action may be applied. Thus, one may gradually become elevated to the state of knowledge. It is also found that when one who is not even interested in the activities of Ka Consciousness, gives charity to some hospital or some other social institution, he gives up the hard earned results of his activities. That is also recommended here because by the practice of the giving up the fruits of one's activity, one is sure to purify his mind gradually and in that purified stage of mind, one becomes able to understand Krishna Consciousness. Of course, Ka Consciousness is not dependent on any other experience because Ka Consciousness itself can purify one's mind. But if there are impediments to accepting Ka Consciousness, one may try to give up the results of his actions. In that respect, social service, community service, national service, sacrifice for one's country, etc. May be accepted so that someday one may come to the stage of pure devotional service to the Supreme Lord. 1846 we find it stated if one decides to sacrifice, if one decides to sacrifice for the supreme cause. Even if he does not know that the supreme cause is Krishna, he will come gradually to understand that Krishna is supreme, caused by the sacrificial method that stands appropriately. I will give the 12.11 devotional service translation. If however, you are unable to work in this consciousness of me, then try to act giving up all results of your world and try to be self situated.

So I think most of the people here can sacrifice for Ka. But there are some people under healthy pressure of their family or friends. They're not able to somehow or another give to Ka. So at least if they give to some good cause, it's a step in the right direction. Like this they can eventually achieve some desire to do a service service for Lord Krishna. So it's recommended that one, if you can't give, if you can't work for Ka, then at least if you can work, give up the fruits of your activities, then that will help you. Now if someone is doing work for Ka, they get so much more benefit. And today, because it's Kartikadasya, so you get a hundred times, 100, that's almost 10,000 times the result. So today is a very good day to give in charity and to give service. There's some days in the year that are especially very good. Like the anniversary of the Satyu, it falls on Akoy Chitya. So in the Akhoy Chitya.

Please would.

Like to give donations. Because whatever pious activity is done then the result lasts forever. So I was coming back from one program and it was about 10 o' clock and the guest house Lotus building. I saw on the second floor there was a family waiting. Sai said, well, what? Keith Shaw, we're waiting for you. Why today is a Koi Tritia going to give you a donation? So they all don't give you a donation. That was my first experience of Akhoi Vidya. I went to the third floor, there was another family. I said, oh, what in Swarashuda said? They said, Arkoi Chitiya, we want to give you a donation. Later on Don gave donation. So like this Elizor had some. So we don't know much about these holy days, but they are legendary Bhakti devas. It's a very good day to do some service for Ka. Now of course the devotees, they do a service as they did. But if they're not able to do as they did, at least if you do like in this month of Naura, you do Anakadasi, you do Anakhoitya, you Do on some Anandastrami Janastmi, you get some special blessings. So this way doing a service for Ka has mantra. But if you can't do that, at least be charitable, be kind and give in the model of goodness without expecting any return just for a good cause. So in this way you get Krishna's mercy, Harir Lord, you get Sanghala. In the meantime, do you have any question you want to ask the light?

When we have been assigned the regular services? Regular services we have been assigned. When such days comes, whether we should change our regular services in order to do some more extra run, what should be our focus? Whether regular service or extra service.

Any particular time like during intraday.

Suppose you are supposed to go for hyena and book situation and don't take pressure. Then you become big. Then you won't be able to do the service, which is what we should do.

Some people are very extra that fasting. But I never saw Srila Prabhupada doing a complete fast. I never saw him doing a nirjala or any kind of fast. On the odyssey he would take no grains, no pulses and no cereals. But he would eat other things. He would take care of hellbrah, he would take potatoes. In fact some people call this allodassi. Yes, they cook so many types of potatoes. But whatever the ideas, Ragad was recommending that we eat non grains. And that way we have the strength to do our service.

So.

On the Rajasthani it said you get 50,000 to 100,000 Ecadasi Dante. So I thought well, neandral ecates is supposed to only be 1 year Ekaratsi 26. So Rajasthani is much better. And Rajasthani you are in the pastor.

Or shown you like that.

There's also the Vishnu Panchakra which is flowing at the end of the Kartik from a Karasi to the Pranayama.

So there you have three options.

Either Pranjigaldhya, fruits and roots or Harushana. So whichever little you can do, most devotees in Mayanpur they like to do fruits and roots. Ashandu Haldhasana and ready to do pancharolya. It says the benefit of doing this of these who are punctured is like incalculable. So there's on special days when you can do a little the devotees they eat fruits and roots, but they do their service to go on. So.

Prabhupada here also recommended we try.

To chant extra rounds on the Karasi. I think that 25 rounds is possible.

Like this.

Other additions I don't know as such. But he did recommend you chant some extra Java etu.

But we should not give up our ordained service.

Unless somehow it's covered. So on this day of the codes.

It'S also known as Hari Hare Rasa.

Or the day of Lord Hari. So we can get the special blessings.

On this day by observing this simple.

Fast of no grains, no pulses and no cherubs. Harilam.

Question from Geeta Manipal. How can we remind fixed and determined in serving Guru and Krishna even in the absence of association?

These how do questions are.

Tricky in a sense.

How to do this, how to do that? This is a basic. Let's see Anachrosync Pranayata, fruit and water. This is our regular thing. We try to be always dedicated to.

Studying Guru and Krishna.

So in the morning we chant the Guru Vashtaga.

So there it says Eshal Prashada Bharuat Prasado that sad Prasada Nagatir Khtauti that.

By the mercy of Guru begin advance.

In our Ka consciousness.

And by his displeasure there is no hope. So this is a basic thing.

We should try to serve the Guru. I try to. It's hard to do that. Well, that's the whole process of Ka consciousness doing that, studying Guru and Ka.

So if we know that this is.

A system then naturally we would like to do it. Now as far as taking association, sometimes the Guru is present but we may be stretched out. We may not take a dance of the Guru's presence. Then they think oh I'm hungry, the Guru is talking too much. Suddenly I think, I wonder what the hell the Guru's talking. We're thinking Prashad. So like that we may be in the presence of the Guru but not conscious. So not having the Guru present may not always be that. Because if one is feeling separation.

Then.

The mind is fixed on the Guru. So that's letter of then the Guru present in your ninth states of the Guru not present but your ninth fixed in separation Vipra Lambda or separation like Lord Chaitanya 3 One woman is feeling like 12 years in your absence. So if you feel like that, that's another consciousness to have. So I'm really healthy that the devotees from Mani Phal are watching. Gita is from Manipal. There are other devotees who are also watching from Manipal. If so please, we want to give them our blessings. Halilo Hallelujah Everybody. Let's give the money for girls and boys sons. So we hope that by these blessings from the assembled Vaishnavas will help you to achieve this success. Next question. Hare Krishna.

How should we deal with people who follow false religion, false guru who claims to be God but they are sweet and nice people. Your servant Sri Radha Govindasyam.

Aha. We heard just others in the temple in Raja wondering they're having a temple to the Kalya all the time. One elderly gentleman and his wife Sarati. The Lord said to him kalki is expected 427,000 years later. Aren't you a little earlier? So he said well maybe I'm not Kalki but I'm still avatar. So like this there's all kinds of.

Altars.

So he gives different blessings. 10,000 of the blessing, 15,000 blessings and he gives a lack and a half. You get a special blessing. It makes you out of the night for three days. He gives you something to drink and.

You wow.

You are completely intoxicated for three days. So that's all I can have. I don't know if it's drug dealing or what. It's not all the time. How to preach to someone who follows such a guru. That's always a question that sometimes just as they read Rahvad's books and then they come to some conclusion that what an actual guru is like, what an actual avatar is like. And so sometimes it is directly tell them if they ask, if they show some interest then you can tell them. Depends a lot on how that person is receptive or not.

One thing is.

Telling that you can ask Please show your universal form because Arjuna when Krishna sent he was God Sah Arjuna said in the 11th chapter please show your universal form Yudhish ruddha so if someone is claiming to thee God then they can show their Vishal thought See, no one can show except God. I was once I sing the Shankar China at Puri So he said he was all the time in so many words. I said well you are worshipping. And he said yes, that is my Leela and worshipping myself I am Radhakrishna. I said Radhakrishna are always eternally young beautiful. You are elderly than them how you're getting old. So old age is not particularly beautiful. So he also said this is my Leela. So I said Leela is not Leela growing old? If you could say all the interesting. But so like this Krishna when he spoke the Lord Gita he was 125 years old but he looked like a.

20 year old young man.

Because his body is sat chit Ananda it never grows old. So like this Krishna he's showing another Yogurt. He's always fresh and young. But how do you tell that to someone? You know, if they're very close, if their friends, you could talk. Otherwise, I just. If I read first Canto of Bhagavatam. If they read how Chaitanya Mahdav, how he was understood to the Avatar. Like they can gradually get an idea. It's not really all the time. Like when I was at the Bhaktiyananda Hospital, they told me that there was a man in the icu. I told this before, and he was from Delhi. So he had some magazines from various groups. So the social care route. I asked him, so you are interested in spiritual life? He said, yes. You have the idea of looks. Yes, but I have one question. You see, every group says their founder is God. So I wanted to know who is really God. And so the special care representative said, well, I had the same question. But in the Bhagavad Gita ka says he is God. It says everything comes from me like this. Really? Really. That's always. I always wanted to know who is God. Can I see that?

Is that in the Bhagava? Yeah, sure.

Wow.

Wow.

Krishna is God.

Wow. Sister always wanted to know who is God. So this is our problem that India, we got so many other darts. There's one right now, Yuga lecture that Krishna says Sambhurami Yuga. Yuga. He comes as the Yuga. But we have here not every Yuga, not every centennial, not every millennial, every lineage of the second new order. They are. So this is our problem. We have a proliferation of avatars. And unfortunately, none of them are true. So because in Kaliyur, the Avatar does not declare himself to the an Avatar. He is always a Chana altar because he knows the Kalyuga. If I declare that I'm an Avatar, so many false avatars are there. So better to declare, even recognize. Because they are Lenhin and Shastra. Because they do some spiritually unique things which are authenticate and they have some power. They can do some miracle which ordinarily cannot be done. Like Lord Chaitanya, he hugged Alitha and Elatha became cured. Not only cured, but his knees, fingers, all came back. So this is the power of Lord Chaitanya. Lord.

If someone kills the animals, how does Krishna punish them? How can I help those poor animals which are being killed? Your servant, Saraswati.

Sarah Saji. Well, we are trying to dissuade people from eating animals. I saw even in India, most people are there eating fats. Mainly India and Near Zen we see maybe 20% take vegetarians, 80% nads they call veg. Non vets, they don't say flesh or knead eating, they say nads. So you go nads. What is nan vets, it's summers slaughtered animal. So the word for the neet in Sanskrit is nung sa. So nung sa long knees on right knee and sha ning you, but I eat you dry style and next night you eating right. So these animals, they can take breath and eat you the next life. So it's literally not to eat flesh, it is life and death. Maybe there's an excuse, but now you have so many vegetables, grains, meal products either causes only fruits, roots and vegetables. That is now a real austerity. So unfortunately people, they eat flesh. So if we could get them to the vegetarian and the nice. So we would like to gradually try to tell the positive aspects of eating a vegetarian diet. So of course we are technically Krishna Therapeat, Krishna Prasad. And that is Krishna only eats vegetables, fruits, no products. So we offer the Lord Ka and we take the prashad. So like that we like to try to attract everyone to the rich chain. But that's automatic if they become devotees. So rather than we try to get them personally or devotees and then they want to know well, what's the diet? The diet is eat Krishna Prasad. And so Krishna Prasad is all regitane. So our worries to ka Tajan. So I do want to give you a chance to get some prashant. They will close at 10. So one more question and I'll give up Prashant.

People in India do understand about prasad. But how can we make people understand the glories of having prashad every day? Especially those who are not preaching, practicing ka consciousness.

How many more questions? God?

Two more questions.

Food to eat has got some karma, but the inner is vegetable. But if the offer to ka, it has no karma karma, free food shant. One way is bringing them to the goindas.

Another way if you're a good cook, invite them to your house. Somehow. See, tasting prasad is more effective than a thousand words. Because people in the west, they don't understand what is a vegetarian diet. India, they don't really understand. They eat a big fowl of rice and fish. You see, they don't know that how you take so many, I can't mention on the grains and all these things. Now on the cause it takes so many preparations, so let them strengthen it. Someone came to our temple in my voice and said she's a wealthy lady, she said, well, I could make the dust, I could make kitchari, put in pista, put in kismets, put in all kinds of extensive ingredients. But it won't taste as good as yours. What's your secret? You see, one time, Allah Chaitanya, he walked into the room of Saurav Rula Bhartacharya. And that time Brodharcharya missed the mangalati. So he said, here I saw that we have the Maha of Prasad from the monarchy at some cashew.

So would you like to have the kashu?

So he took and he ate it right away. He said, aha, what turned brown on you? You are eating without brushing your teeth before washing. Thinking of that, how you can eat, how you can eat in any Korea slope. We get the shot. There's no rule, no nothing. We should take it as it is. So Lord Chaitanya said, yes, I was just testing you. Now I see you're really a devotee. Three row. So then he turned to the others. How do you like this, Tushan? And they're all eating cashews. Mmm, mmm. Very nice. So he said, well, it's just nuts. It's just so nuts. How many times do nut. Why do you like this so nuts? And there's nothing, right? Especially there's a nut. So then Lord Jaiden said, because this was touched by the nectar of the lips of Lord Krishna. That's how you like it so much Hriuga. So that's the secret.

The.

If you give them the shot and then they're like. In fact, some are stones in the West. They said, well, I used to come just to take the facade. I wasn't interested in philosophy. I wasn't interested in anything else. But I liked facade. And then by taking facade every week, they started to develop some spiritual qualities and started to go now very interesting. So some of the probably called the sweets I wouldn't mention because they navd. He called the sweets as ishkan bullets. That by the mercy of these bullets he had chuddi Maya. So all voices shall provoke. So mark two will give quick answers.

If we break the past in between eight and the star. Then what should I do at that time, Jiva?

Well, as soon as you note that you are broke a carcin it should still follow for the rest of the day. And then I usually probably would observe it, not the other two days after. Some people say dharati. I was there. And he said, a dharmasi is a feast day. So he observed fast on charity. Anyway, either one or two days after you do a fast again.

Guru Maharaj, you said that separation makes your mind fixed. But staying in da is also very important. So staying in da or separation from da, which one is better? Bhakti? Smitha?

Both. I would. If you can stain the down, that's good. If you can't stay, then to feel separation, a separation from the down. And that's also somehow we should feel the Dhon is our real home and we want to stay there. So like this Vinayan, umbrellas and other places, they don't think this is our home. Our home is Nalmen or Myraboro, some dharma, something like this. By living in the Dharm, by identifying with the Dharma, we got the mercy of Lord Krishna. Okay, thank you all.

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