20231203 - Chapter 8 - লোক-শিক্ষা — Loka-śikṣā part2

A recorded lecture (Dec 3, 2023) in which Jaya Pataka Swami comments on Chapter 8 (Loka-śikṣā) of Shri Chaitanya Chandram — translating and explaining verses 85–87. The talk contrasts impersonalist Neti Neti approaches and other difficult spiritual paths with the supremacy of Krishna-bhakti and taking shelter of Lord Gauranga, interleaved with devotional remarks, participant questions, and community announcements (book table, donations).
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What's the verse number?
Okay.
So today we'll continue on the commentation of Shri Chaitanya Chandram by Srila Prabhudananda Saraswati par continuation of chapter 8 chapter entitled Lok Shika Instruction to the people, verse number 85.
Sarvodharma.
Abandoning all types of religion, the only desirable is the mercy of Lord Gora which fulfills all necessities. Vrita vesham karmas Apana yatavartam apimanakta dhatma Sharane.
Karo param Archer ja Madhurjyo my Krishna Prem la bhaivi.
Translation abandon far away the useless absorption in the compulsory nitya and occasional naimatika activities. Do not even let the talks of advocates of ascending path Arohana of consideration of not this, not this Neti Neti come near to years of any time. Do not be bewildered at any time by the subject of body and things related to the body such as wife, son, country and society and so on. Only then, by the mercy of Lord Gauravsundara, the super excellent, wonderful, sweet relishment, the ultimate goal of life, which is the fifth goal of life, love of Godhead will be obtained.
The impersonalist try to find out the absolute truth.
So the impersonalists, they try to find out the absolute truth by the process 19:19 by the process of Neti Neti.
Not this, not this, not this, not.
This, not this, not this, not this, not this.
Arrive actually sweet Krishna consciousness.
Through that way they will never arrive at the Sweet Ka consciousness.
So he's actually met rather than being absorbed in 1880, being absorbed in Krishnavakti.
So he's advising that rather than being absorbed in Neti Neti be absorbed in Krishna Bhakti.
That is the system that Lord Chaitanya thought.
That's the system that Lord Chaitanya taught. And.
Things in relation to the body should not be considered.
And things in relation to the body should not be considered.
They are temporary, not important.
What's that, Guru Mahj? They are temporary. They are not important.
So this thing I did, body, everything.
You should see that there's the body and there's a spirit soul, right?
I don't know.
The pure devotees, they see there is a body and there's a spirit soul. And they identify themselves with the spirit soul, not the body. And they have the shelter of Lord Chaitanya. So we have a parikrama of the temporary body in Vrindavan. So, devotees, what was that, Guru Maharaj? Those who want to stay in the material world, they Identify with the body. So this verse tells us to identify us with spirit soul. Through that we can achieve the ultimate goal of life which is Krishna Prema verse number 86.
Sri Shambharshan Sharghabilash Shastra Bhash Pravitir Tuchato Go Padasra Shresthatto.
Greatness of the shelter of Lord Chaitanya and the insignificance of taking sorry. Insignificance of talking with women, desiring heaven and study of scriptures Alam Shastra Bhyasher Alam Ahaha Ambhudi Tate Beware of the association of the tigress in the form of woman. Considering the position in heaven to be insignificant, temporary like a grass, spit on it. And what is the use of even the pilgrimage? Avoid even all those all this. Behold Shigoranga who spoke Shri Goranga who is performing the pastime as a Sanyasi is dancing in the happiness of love of his own form of Krishna on the ocean bank in Nilachala. O fortunate devotees, go, go, go, go take shelter at his lotus feet.
In the ninth canto.
In the ninth canto of the Srimad Bhagavatam.
Apsara criticized women.
The Apsara criticized women.
But in the Prabhupada Prabhupada said.
But in the Prabhupada Srila Prabhupada said.
I come to Ka consciousness.
If she comes to Ka consciousness.
Whatever.
When it comes to Krishna consciousness, then man will women Shudras whatever, there's no difference. All are one.
Touch anyone at Krishna service.
So we should talk to. We should talk sweetly to everyone for the purpose of engaging them in Krishna's service, not for enjoying. 8:25 Commentary by Shla Bhakti Siddhanta Saraswati Thakur Always beware of the association of women. If the question arise arises by comparing the woman to a tigress, talking with women is forbidden. Then how can one obtain the position in the heaven which is obtained by performance of religious activities headed by sacrifice Yajna Yaga along with wife. Because of expecting such a question, the author says that the next that these heavens are false or temporary and so tells to spit on it. Considering them, considering them to be insignificant like grass. Well, the heavenly happiness might be temporary. But then we will perform the mystic yogic practice. Expecting this, the author says, what's the use of study of scriptures? Because let alone perfecting the process of yoga and achieving success, even the best of the mystic yogis who have achieved perfection have fallen away. So what's the use of the process which is difficult, painful and uncertain in perfection. If that's the case, then the pilgrimage is very pleasing. We will serve the holy places, obtain knowledge and so on. And as a result will be the fit fit candidates to attain liberation. Expecting this question, the author says next, what is the use of traveling to holy places? Because first of all, traveling to holy places is hard labor. Secondly, there is a presence of Dhammapratha due to material intelligence of the Karmis and Gyanis and so on. And so their traveling to holy places is merely useless endeavor coming from their sense gratification. Then what should be done? That's what the author gives as the conclusion here. O men who are fit to obtain the wealth of love, all of you must take shelter of Lord Goranga who while performing the pastime as a Sanyasi is is dancing in happiness of love of his own form as of Krishna on the ocean bank in Nilachala.
So here a stonewriter all the excuses of his holiday.
So he estimated all the excuses that people would make. He answered all those and he answered all of those.
Then he decided that people should take to the whistle process.
He's advising that people should take to the process of following Lord Chaitanya. Blissful process. A song by London he said this process is simply nectar. By following this process and simply by following this process, one can achieve all success. One can achieve all success.
Women are not just the consciousness women.
Who are not Krishna conscious, who are not. Who are not, they are dangerous. But a woman. If. But if a woman is Krishna. So if the woman is Krishna conscious, then she's fit for association. Verse number 87 the essence of all advice is to be attached to Lord Gora. Giving up the futile attempt in the process Giving up the futile attempt in the process of yoga and so on that are difficult to achieve. Kim Tavat Bhattad Durgameshu Vivalam yogadi Margesh Vaho Bhakti Krishna Padam Bhuje Vidha Dhata Sarvartam Alun Tatha Asha Prema Mahotsave Yadhi Shiva Brahmadi Alabbhe Adh Rajyam.
Krishna Padavadmi Bhakti Bidhan Kari Sharva Shartha Premadhan Lunthon karo si Brahmadira dus prabhu paramar asatake.
Translation O brothers, what's the use of performing the difficult paths of Eightfold mystic yoga? And so on Plunder the wealth of love of the one who gives devotional service to the lotus feet of Lord Krishna. If you have the hope in the difficult to attain, greatly wonderful festival of love that is difficult to be obtained for Lord Shiva, Brahma and so on. Then be attracted to the most magnanimous Lord Gora Sundara whose glories are extraordinary, incomprehensible.
We had one yogi who had been practicing yoga and sound in the ashram.
So we heard some yogi was practicing Ashtanga yoga in some South India yoga ashram.
Somehow yogi heard.
Somehow the yogi heard about iskcon. So the yogi came here. He started to chant Hare Krishna. And the yogi said.
There is more bliss than he had experienced.
So the yogi said. So the yogi said there is more bliss than what he has experienced in Ashtanga yoga. Years together. For years together. So yogi couldn't believe. The yogi couldn't believe. How. How it is possible to experience so much bliss. It can't be.
People are taking place.
People who are getting bliss from Lord Chaitanya. They cannot comprehend it.
They should understand that.
So we should understand that. So Lord Chaitanya is giving out the mercy which was never given out before. So we should take his mercy and enjoy love of Krishna Haribore.
Hare Krishna.
Devaki. Guru Maharajaki iskcon. Guru Vrindaki. Maybe they want to give gift Gurmaraj also please request them to scan this barcode to know.
Which smartphone here.
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What's that? Today she is Prasanna Brajeshwari. Where are you from? Okay Gurma, this is your disciple. This. She's your disciple present of Rajeshwari Devidasi. Today it's her appearance day so she's requesting you to bless her and she's giving you some. Guru Dakshina. Hare Krishna. Hare Krishna. Krishna Krishna Krishna Matirastuari. The name of Shimati Radharani. Okay, okay. I'll. I'll stick it outside. I will bring it here. No question.
He has taken the mic alone. Hare Krishna. Dear devotees, welcome to Guru Mahra's virtual book table. There's a physical.
Can you give me one second? I announce in Bengali. It also the QR code class. Okay.
There's a physical book table right behind you. So please do visit. That's Guru Maharaj's personal physical book table where you can get this calendar at a small price or if you buy some books or sponsor some books, you will get it free of cost. Guru Maharaj Ki Dear Devotees, the following fortunate devotees have participated in the pastime of Guru Maharaj Virtual Book table today on 3rd December 2023 Ramandir Inauguration Scheme Radha Kanta Gopal Das from Chennai, 5 Bhagavad Gitas Sripathi Achudadas from Chennai, 16 Bhagavad Gita and 108 small books Kanaya Desh Yatra 5259 Bhagavad Gita Revo from Kasadesh we have Dauji Balai 1 Bhagavad Gitan we have our Nitya Saivites 4 small books calling the Sundari Devidasi and family from USA 1 Bhagavad Gita Srila Prabhupada Transcendental Book Distribution all these devotees are getting special Narasimha Puja in a few hours from now in Sridhar Mayapur. Please also all of you bless them by calling out Nitai Gauranga with me. Nitai Gauranga Please pause on this wonderful opportunity of participating in the pastime of Guru Maharaj distributing Srila Prabhupada books even if it's a single Bhagavad Gita or just a few small books. Please WhatsApp anytime to the virtual book table at +919434760402. Stay tuned for tomorrow's Lord Chaitanya class. Let's pray for the speedy recovery and full recovery of Guru Maharaj. And of course our prayers include for all those who are celebrating their anniversaries today for their well being and blissfulness to consciousness. Please join me in the prayers. Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare Nithai Charan Prabhu from Birmingham is in Mayapur. If anybody come across please ask him to come and meet me. My name is. It's very important. I have an important message of Guru Maharaj for him.
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