202402029 - Inability of logic

So today they had the opening of the books and the exhibition and some of you I think were there but some may not have been there. I don't know whether the government was invited there because I didn't see any. So now we are reading from continuation from Chaitanya Shikshamrata Knowledgeable pastimes are in Vibhat Pratiti and the result of a Vivra Pratiti is impersonalistic realization. I began to give a little glimpse of Vidvat Pratiti Vidvat Pratiti is possible only for those who are transcending the material soul are able to realize the spiritual truth they see the form of Ka through their spiritual eyes Here Krishnader through their spiritual ears they fully relish Krishna through spiritual tongue. All of Krishna's pastimes are transcendental and beyond matter because of Ka's inconceivable potency he can be the object of the physical eye but by nature all material senses such as the eye are unable to perceive him. It is so Bhakti Vira Thakur is explaining things according to what we heard.

Lived up to UK is understandable.

Is understandable by pure devotees mix so it's not visible to the material eyes.

We are talking about the spiritual vision.

We talked about the spiritual vision Did God bring the Seraphim too? Sa.

This verse tells us we also have spiritual ears spiritual tongue so this.

Verse also tells you we also have spiritual ears Christian town so we can hear about Krishna with our spiritual ears of course we take Krishna by taking Krishna Prashada how many of you like Krishna Prasadam?

Small way we also like.

So you know what is spiritual?

Everything Krishna is the object, we are.

The subject for everything Krishna is the.

Object, we are the subject Krishna Prasada Krishna flowers Krishna Wisdom Krishna Prasadam, Krishna.

Glass Krishna vision Everything is centered on Krishna.

He is the object.

Therefore Krishna is the object and we are the subject.

During.

During the time when Lord when the Lord manifested his appearance all the pastimes of the Lord, all the pastime and so on of the Lord which are perceived through the senses cannot hear the fruit of realization of truth without Vidvt Pratiti Therefore, generally the Amitpad Pratiti is gained through Amitpad Pratiti Krishna Tattva is known to many as temporary they imagine of Krishna's birth, growth and decay etc of the body it is only through Avidvat Pratiti the impersonal state is perceived as true and personal state as mundane. So since Ka Tattva is Personal it is also concluded to be mundane. So normally we see everything through our mundane senses.

That's from our live block.

That is called as aviti.

Actually to see, to understand Krishna as it is.

So actually to see Krishna and understanding him as it is, we have to see him in the spiritual vision. And that is so we can see Krishna through a spiritual vision. Otherwise everything we see with our mundane eyes.

I guess not.

Therefore they are thinking that Krishna is mundane. That he has a material body which goes through the normal material changes.

That's not true.

But that is not true.

I was talking to one.

I mean I was talking to a Mayavadi and he was having a beautiful. And I asked him, why would you have indeed your Radha and Krishna? And he was a old man. I.

Krishna grows old.

And I was saying that Krishna never grows old, but you are growing old. And he said this is my lea. So I said everybody is doing that Leela.

He told me I didn't see Jaganna. He started to drink a cheetah hot ghee.

So he told me I can see Jagannath. I just have to drink 1 liter of boiling hot ghee. I said, I'll die. He said yes, you take next birth as a Hindu, then you can go in.

So.

So the Pujaris there they are saying the Shankaracharya has proved so that we are working on for this Shankaracharya. They have you see Krishna, he appears, he grows after his youth and he never gives cold. And when he disappears, he goes back to this regional world. But actually Krishna is transcendental.

And.

Wisdom senses they don't understand this.

Those who have vivid pratiti senses they can understand this Krishna he has no part to play in this material world. But he acts is actually not mundane. He is transcendental. But he does things so that the atheist they are not disturbed. But he is actually a transcendental personality. Inability, inability of logic. It is not the function of logic to determine what is absolute. Truth is. Can the finite logic of humans, the finite logic of humans act on the immeasurable substance. Therefore, the absolute truth can be known and relished only by the function of the devotional service that the living entity has. That which is called pure love in its initial state gives the name of Bhakti. Without the mercy of Krishna, vidpatraditi does not arise. Since by the mercy of Krishna the potency of knowledge Vitya Shati helps the living entity so.

Comfort understand kilometer worldwide logic.

So people are trying people those who are trying to understand Krishna biology So Bhakti, you know Tapa is saying can be imag. Can the immeasurable be understood by logic? Just like we are born, we grow.

We produce some byproduct, we produce some.

Byproduct, we stay for a while, keep old and die. Something like that.

Some.

Krishna has to do sometimes these types of things. Like he was born as Devaki's son. So he appeared with far hands, with armor and he appeared like Vishnu. And no child is born with with full clothes, ornaments and hands, fond hands. Because Krishna is the absolute truth, he appears in a unique way. He was asked by his mother to take the form of a human baby. So he took the form of baby and he was delivered in the house.

Of Yeshua's baby was taken back.

So Krishna can do all these amazing things because he is the absolute truth.

Of the baby girl.

And comes up thought that the baby girl was going to kill him anyway. And he tried to clear the baby.

Girl but she threw out his hands and said.

So she flew from her his hand and told him the person who's supposed to kill him is already somewhere else.

The spiritual world Ka is accepted as the object of love.

In the spiritual world Krishna is accepted as the object of love.

We want the people to have this pure bhakti or love for Krishna.

So we want people to have this pure bhakti love for Krishna.

Thus this material world will become like a.

And thus this material world would become like vaikunta kids. So one man asked you a prabhupada. The Bhagavatam is very nice. But Krishna is dancing with other people's wife and that should be taken out from the Bhagavatam. Are you married? You have a wife?

All the wives, all the wives actually love the Krishna.

And he said all the wives actually belongs to Krishna.

You have a stone, Krishna's wife, you have feet.

And he said we have stone Krishna's wife. You are a thief.

I got so what language I wanted on the song answered that person.

So that day he defined this morning he answered that person.

Actually father, mother, husband.

So even if people are against us, they think that Krishna is the father mother of everybody.

We can realize Krishna, Krishna helps us.

We can realize Krishna if Krishna helps.

Us use those.

He gives us the Vidya shakti to help us. Krishna alone is the object of love. Vishaya, the form of Krishna Swaroop is the only more suitable form of analytic pure love than all the forms of absolute truth that have been observed in the world.

So Krishna is one.

So Krishna's form is so beautiful and so appropriate to be the object of love. There are other forms like Varahati.

They are not so sub that they.

Are not so suitable. So actually Lord Chaitanya was hearing to the Vishnu Sahasram the names of Lord Krishna when he heard the name of then he took the form of Varad.

He had for us and he had.

For he had for our host.

Sometimes.

So sometimes if someone says that they are God then you should tell them show me a universal form.

Of your host.

Okay. At least show me your host. No one can show the universal form and no one can show the hoops like one object in a.

Because he.

Is actually the absolute truth. Wow. Unalloyed pure love cannot be applied in the concept of Allah established in the Muslim scriptures. Even the best friend the Prophet Muhammad could not realize his Allah form because the object of worship stay away from the worshipper due to the opulence. Even after the object of worship is approached by friendship. The God who is thought of in Christianity is also very distinctly approached Truth then there is nothing to mention about Brahmana Narayana also is not the substance attained by simple love of living entity. Krishna alone is the only direct form of worship. Vishaya of analyzed pure love eternally resides in Shri Brajatna.

This is very interesting. This is quite interesting How Allah.

Is even though for Allah but they don't know what Allah is.

God approaching Christ don't know who God is.

The God they approach in Christianity but they don't know who God is, what he is. The Brahman is the impersonal truth. How would you love being personal? He is so he's full of opulence.

A person can have servitude relationships.

Krishna was shown his pastime in Braja Mathura. People who love him they may or may not know that he's God.

So Pishta and the way he presents himself absolute truth he can be opposed.

To so Krishna the way he presents himself is the absolute truth. You can be approached can be loved. Render transnational loving service to the Supreme Lord Krishna favorably without desire for material profit and gain Profit or gain through fruitive activities of philosophical speculation that is called pure devotion Service identity of Krishna Dharma. Krishna's abode is blissful. Krishna's abode is one should render transcendental loving service to the Supreme Lord favorably without desire for material profit aimed through splitive activities and philosophical speculation. That is called pure devotional service. Eleven has told us many times that we are not this body.

We have a lot ice cream.

So if you ask God, please give me nice ice cream. Beautiful wife or handsome husband. So they are all things for the body. The people come to me, they say we're married for so many years, we don't have a child. Everything we desire, everything we want, it should be connected to our soul should be connected to Krishna.

I have a Krishna conscious child. I have a child.

I should have a Krishna conscious child. May I have a Krishna conscious child and have a child who can serve Krishna.

Everything out of it should be come out connected to Krishna.

Everything we are should be somehow connected to Krishna. So we want to finish the tobp. We want to have a nice place for people to come and worship Krishna. Everything we have, it should be connected. Everything we want to have should be connected to Krishna.

Pure devotee doesn't ask for material things.

Pure devotee doesn't ask for material things. If they ask for something material, they connect that to Krishna from I want.

This thing for your service.

So I want this thing for your service.

Some other things to go which I like to refresh on.

Everything should be connected to Krishna. Then it can be pure devotion. So is explaining here. The Lord has unlimited form.

One.

Relationship in the form of Krishna is actually suitable for loving relationship.

As I spoke this afternoon together.

So actually this afternoon I spoke with the Dodia brothers. So they told me I have to go in the evening to the inauguration of participant books and exhibition. How many of you saw that? It's a nice exhibition. The whole. The whole life of Shabak.

On the wall. On the wall. All around the walls.

See.

You can grasp.

If you walk around the wall, he can grasp his life.

Room on the second floor.

You see, there's a room on the second floor of the todp. It will be open at least during the festival all the time tomorrow. You heard? I may not be able to come for the class because there will be a drama in the temple. It's going to be a long day for me. Oh, it has been a long day for me. I'll answer a couple of questions. Yeah, she can write it, Guru Maharaj. Otherwise she's not here.

We can write to her.

She is there, right? Can you ask her to write it to you?

We can't hear. We can't hear.

Write it to me, please. Meanwhile, many devotees has come for the festival. We have Seva Pratmataji and. Okay, they are here. I saw some devotees from Malaysia as well. They are here. Okay, we'll do two questions tonight. Question. Yeah, yeah. I told her to write it. I sent it to her. Please accept my respect. All glories to your divine grace. Guru Maharaj. You mentioned that Krishna doesn't disturb the mind of the atheists. And. And we can see that in Krishna's disappearance pastime. But in the case of Lord Chaitanya and Nithyananda didn't do such a thing. They disappeared in the most astonishing way by entering into deities. How to understand this difference? You said that Krishna doesn't disturb the mind of the atheist. And we can see that in Krishna's disappearance fast time. But in the case of Lord Chaitanya, Lord Nithyananda didn't happen. Didn't do such a thing. They disappeared in the most astonishing way by entering into the deities. How to understand this difference in pastors?

And no one actually saw and disappeared Lord Chaitanya.

No one actually saw him disappearing.

Some people saw him go in the ocean.

Some people saw him go in the ocean in different ways. They actually didn't know how he went.

And so a few different ideas came up.

So a few different ideas came up. Action disappeared in any perceivable way.

They say.

Actually they say that he entered the deity of Bankara. I don't know. Did anybody saw that? One they say that Lord Nithyananda entered the deity. And one they say Lord Nanda entered Jamuna.

Because deeping is considered as lark.

Because the deity is considered as a lark. If you think the deities in downstairs marble or metal or stone, you have arming. That's the external vision. But the expression vision, the. The vit Pratiti is actually transcendental. That's why the Lord flows into the deities. It is like the deity is merging into himself.

It says that Dharma Devi was worshiping.

V says that Jamuna Devi was doing arati to Krishna eating. It's the middle of the rt. You he put her into the deity and she disappeared. Wow. So she's. They say that Janua Devi is an incarnation of Lord. She's a gopi and she's go. And she's.

I mean, maybe so these are like associates transcendental personality.

These are large Chaitan associates. They are transcendental personalities.

Those who have with what are giving vision, they see that.

Those who have been put by deity vision, they will see that. They will just see them like ordinary people. Yeah. There's a question. There's a question which is not connected to the glass. Is it? Okay. Should I ask? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You lost it?

Yeah. So now we are going to make the new one. We spoke to.

From Taiwan.

Two Matajis from Taiwan.

They are here from.

See names of this.

You're always welcome.

And there's one Brahmachari probably giving.

Her name is Wang. Wang. Wrong. And Prema. Both of them are Pra. Prema. Okay.

This is to Guru Maharaj.

Okay. Then this devotee has purchased for Guru. For Guru from. From your book.

No, no, no. He's giving. He's giving.

Yeah.

He's giving to Gur. Okay.

Okay.

Thank you. We'll. He's giving to. That's okay.

Okay, okay.

Nobody is saying anything.

Nobody's saying anything. Blessings. Blessings to everyone.

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