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Jaya Pataka Swami and others discuss devotional love for Krishna, explaining how practice moves from regulated discipline to spontaneous love. The talk includes stories about Srila Prabhupada, practical steps like hearing and reflecting on scripture, and congregational chanting.
Sam.
You have to read this, right? So I was thinking Krishna is enjoying and he wanted the people of Kali Yuga also to enjoy.
I told you that how Chandra didn't know how much devotees loved him.
And also I told you how Rukmini told him that he doesn't know how much his devotees love him.
So then he said he would turn devotee in Kali Yuga.
And he told her that he would come as a devotee in Kali Yuga.
And I realized I, Krishna, as Lord Chaitanya, Nithyananda and others, they are come as glories.
Then I realize Lord Krishna, Lord Nithyananda and others, they have come as devotees.
I mean this is. This is a rare thing.
This is a rare thing.
Now he is showing us that our devotees can be really happy.
He is showing us that as devotees we can be really happy.
He saw that by being very happy.
He showed it by being very happy. Wow.
You know him smile this morning.
What's the Gurumaj?
Notice his smile.
Oh, did you notice his smile this morning? Okay, we'll do okay. Krishna who is full of all sweetness is the object Vishaya of love. The people who acknowledge unadulterated and complete love as the goal Prayogan, who else might they at any point acknowledge as the object Vishaya of that love? With the exception of Krishna, Although because of the difference in language in terms Krishna, Vrindavan, Gopa, Gopi, Godhana, Kaus, Pichar, the wealth, Jamuna, Kadamba, etc. Are not mentioned anywhere in that language in some places. Yet the practitioners of unalloyed love must accept in some other way or words the names, forms, places, substances and pastimes corresponding to this indication of this Krishna, Vrindavan, Gopa, etc. Consequently, there could be no other object Vishaya of pure love other than Krishna.
So people follow other religions.
So people who follow other religions, they.
May not know or recognize the name of Krishna.
They may not know or recognize the name of Krishna.
Krishna.
Krishna has unlimited names.
But still his name Krishna is very special.
But still his name Krishna is very special.
Are the exemptions of Krishna. Amen. A Krishna is the only one who will give out love.
Some of expansions of Krishna are there. But Krishna is the only one can give out love. Other expansions, they give out liberation. They cannot give out love, but they cannot give love.
They cannot.
They cannot. They don't have the Adhikar.
Which I got it.
Small or subordinate the personality of Godhead. Yes, but they are small or subordinate.
Krishna.
So Krishna came to give out Love.
He came.
He came to give everybody Krishna Bob.
Krishna getting out Krishna.
Krishna is giving out Krishna Prema.
So actually likes a situation in Braja.
So Krishna likes the situation in Braja?
Yeah. Then people love him. They may or not know.
There are people they love him. They may, may not or they may not know that he's God.
I love him.
For his. They love him for his beauty, sweetness, his charming nature.
I suck. He's the object of love and they.
Accept him as their object of love.
Everybody in this material world wants to be happy.
Everybody in this material world wants to be happy.
But they're trying to be rich, they're trying to have a nice spouse. Whatever it is, we have it.
So they're trying to be rich and trying to have a nice spouse. Whatever it is, they want to be happy. What?
Actually a secret to the earthy is to have pure love of Krishna.
But actually the secret to be happy is to have pure love of Krishna.
After he enjoyed that kind of love and then down he wanted the people Kali Yuga.
So after seeing the greatness of love that he enjoyed in Vrindavan, he wanted the people of Kali Yuga to enjoy this. So Lord Chaitanya he wanted the people of Kali Yuga to be happy.
By chanting Hare Ka.
By chanting Hare Ka they could be healthy. They could be happy.
Actually his one lesson was to propagate a Sankhya Dhanyaga.
Actually his one mission was to propagate the Sankirtanyakya.
Fear Lord Krishna without any restriction from Lord Chaitanya.
Actually you can get pure love of Krishna without any restriction from Lord Chaitanya.
He's giving everybody.
Including everybody. He made love for Krishna.
We will. He's on the road. He would embrace them and give them Krishna prayer.
And when he went to South India when he used to meet people on the road, he made them and he embraced them.
He was not so.
He was not so open or so merciful In Navadip.
Against.
Smarters so here much so many of the Brahmanas were smarters. Even. Even they were smartas. He would hug them. He wouldn't. He wouldn't hug them. Let us read what Bhakti Natapur says. The regulative principles Vidhi Before Raga extraction arises, the practitioner Sadhaka must continue to practice devotional service to Krishna in accordance with the primary and secondary regulatory principle Vidhi. As long as pure Rag Attraction does not arise. Krishna Bhajan in Vidhi Marga Regulative principles Regulative devotional principles in Ragmarga the path of spontaneous attraction. It is if it if considered deeply, it can be seen that there are only two ways of achieving love for Krishna. Vidhi and Raga. Rag is rare. When Rag arises then Vidhi no longer has power. As long as Rag does not arise. The main duty of human beings is to take shelter of the Vidhi. Therefore two paths are mentioned in the scriptures. Vidhi Marga and Ragmarga. Ragmarga, completely independent and therefore has no specific system. Only those who are very fortunate and highly qualified are able to follow that path. Consequently only the system of Vidhi is written in in a system systematic manner.
So in the nectar of devotion.
So in the nectar of devotion.
In the beginning it says how you practice devotional service following rules and regulations.
In the beginning it says how you practice devotional service by following rules and regulations.
That's called Vidhimark.
That's called Vidhimark.
While doing that then your practice of Vidhimark becomes a great other matter.
While you are doing that, your practice of Vidhimar becomes automatic.
I've done. When you actually become very enthusiastic, we're not attracted to Ka.
So when you are in that Vidhima you become enthusiastic and naturally become attracted to Kaakas. Then your practice is considered as raga.
So Raga means that one will do a devotional service spontaneously.
Raga means one would do devotional service spontaneously.
So by doing Vidhi marg and as they can't do Raghavanag and by doing.
Vidhi Marg one naturally comes to Ragmar.
And this way I become very attached, very attracted to Lord Krishna.
This way one becomes very attached and attracted to Lord Krishna.
I sing on the TV sometime I'm.
Seeing on the TV sometimes a song.
Sports match.
There are some sports match.
Football, rugby.
Football, rugby, cricket, something.
And the fans are very attracted, very addicted.
The fans, they're very attracted, very addicted.
Sound like a goal, hits a ball.
High.
Call out.
Some makes a goal or the ball high they call out.
So unfortunately the ring attracted to the wrong. Rather than being attached to Krishna they are attracted to some sort.
Unfortunately, rather than being attracted to Krishna they are attracted to some sports.
Golf course.
One morning Srila Prabhupada was walking by a golf course.
So he stopped and asked what is this spot?
And he stopped and asked what is this spot?
Someone was trying to explain.
Someone was trying to explain a little.
White ball and they tried to knock it. How many times they hit the wall.
So it's a little white ball. They are trying to knock it and how many Times they hit the ball and it goes into the hole. Prabhupada shook his head.
He said, I'll do anything avoid thinking about Krishna.
They will do anything to avoid thinking about Krishna.
So actually we're hearing a class called days ago, two days ago.
Actually, we were hearing a class couple days ago.
He was saying that Kirtana, Shrana, Shraddhana actually comes in three steps.
So he was saying Kirtana and Shavana. Shavana actually comes in three steps.
And then it's the. You should do speaking about what you heard.
So Shavanam. Then you should do Mananam thinking about what you have heard.
Then it said, apply that.
And then you should apply that. If you hear something about the Bhagavad Gita and you're preaching it to someone, you may quote that example.
So this is hearing, thinking, applying it.
This is hearing, thinking and applying it. Interesting, Interesting.
So that way and until I was there, parents took their son talking. Sign me up.
So this way, when I was in Montreal, parents were talking to their sons and they were smiling.
I said, no, you go home.
They were talking and smiling with him.
And I got him and they tried to take him out the door. Wait, wait, wait. Relax.
Then.
He was on the door handle. And their mother and father are pulling and he's holding on the door handle.
Okay. They were talking to the son as soon as they reached the door and.
They said, no, you're not going.
Come with us. And the son was holding to the door handle and they were pulling him. No, no, come with us.
Sadharat said, that is a synonym of Ashakti.
Prabhupada said, Prabhupada was saying that that's a symptom of Asakti. He was attached.
Suddenly parents came here and mothers are rolling on the ground, said, I want to take Sadhak home.
So similarly, the parents came here, the mother came, mother started rolling onto the ground.
There's a little guru here.
And they said that, I want to take Subak home. Subak is a local guru here. She's rolling on the ground.
Bengali mothers.
Bengali mothers. They're very heavy.
I love their children.
They love their children.
You want to take him?
Okay. Prabhupada said, oh, if you want to take him, he can go. We are not holding him back.
He's free to go.
He's free to go. And he asked him if he wants to go.
I'll call out a show. Sure.
Papa was so sure of Shubak.
He got speak like this that he.
Could speak like this.
But anyway, she said, oh, and you come home.
Then she said, oh, you come home.
I'm very happy again. But I'm here with my guru. I want to stay here.
So he told her, I'm happy that you came here, but I'm here with my Guru and I'm going to stay here.
Apparently his uncle is a famous cricket.
Player in the apparently his uncle is a famous. Apparently his previous uncle was a famous cricket player in India. What's his name? Pinky Rye. I don't know.
Sounds funny. Oh my God. I'm not much. I know all the logo of the present. Recent. Some of the recent.
Sign of some of the present. I don't know Guru Maharaj, I'm from Malaysia. I don't know anything about cricket. I know something about football.
I just practice our rules and regulations. I gradually become more and more attached to Krishna.
Anyway, as we practice, practice rules and regulation will become more and more attached to Krishna. Hare Krishna. Guru Maharaj. No question. You're so tired. Who is in Vidimar? Please raise your hands. Kurma is supposed to go for his dinner. It's too late today, so please let him go.
Guruji's blessing everyone. Dear devotees, we have more than 200 here and we have 200 Haribo. You can't hear.
Hare Krishna.
Haribol. Can you hear Hare Krishna? Dear devotees, so we have 200 plus here and 200 plus in online.
So.
So we'll be able to by chatting one time. No? Hey, can you call that Hari Paul Hare Krishna? Dear devotees, we have 200 plus here and 200 plus in online. So if we chant only once, we'll be able to dedicate the Dhanvantari Mantra for Guru Maharaj. Health. Altogether congregational is four rounds. Okay, so slowly.
Okay.
So let's together congregationally chant Dhanvantri Mantra. Rama Rama Hare Hare. Thank you. So we dedicated four rounds of Hare Krishna Mah Mantra plus four rounds of Dhanvantari Mantra for Guru Maharaj's health. There's a physical table right behind you for those who are present physically here. And special table of Guru Maharaj here. And it's meant for only those who are present here on the Lotus rooftop. So before you leave, please, please do visit and see what is there for you. Your wonderful seva. And today we have the following fortunate devotees participated in the pastimes of Guru Maharaj. Virtual Book Table 3 March 2024 from Guru Maharaj Physical book table, we have Sangapani, Sangapali Asoda, 1 Bhagavad Gita, Revati Priya 1 Bhagavad Gita Seva Gavarangi 1 Bhagavad Gita Rama Lakshmi 1 Bhagavad Gita Sangapani Narsimadas from Mumbai for Bhagavad Gita D. Prakash Shetty from Pune to Bhagavad Gita Harjit k from Bangalore 20 small books Prema Bhakti Laata from Chennai 6 Bhagat Gita Santi Saha from Kolkata 4 Bhagat Gita Sutapa Sani from Midnapur 1 Bhagat Gita Sujit Samantha from Mumbai to Bhagavad Gita Bajira Jiha from Canada from Mumbai to Bhagavad Gita Jaiswal from luck is it 240 small books from BMAN 5 Bhagavad Gita Karuna from Chennai 31 small box Mamita Mandal from Birbun to Bhagavad Gita Sankar Mandal from BE4B from LNA 3 Bhagavad Gita from Qatar to Bhagavad Gita from Andhra Pradesh 13 Bhagavad Gita Sureshara Srinivas from Bangladesh we have our nite 4 small books and we have special offer so tomorrow from 44 o' clock in the evening to 6 o' clock Dhanavantri Mantra Japa will be held congregationally in Namah okay? Please devotees try to attend that 4 to 6pm tomorrow evening and another Vapu Seva all of us can do from wherever we are is offer the second four rounds of circumnavigating Tulsi to Guru Maharaj Health and the third Wapu Seva you can offer to Guru Maharaj is satisfactory Strictly follow the four regulatory principles so that it will avoid discrepancy in the physical body of Guru Maharaj. Now so these devotees whose names are sung oh there is a very important message. One more There are discounted price of book distribution subcommittee for upcoming Chaitanya Charitamrata Marathan it's the offering is between 22nd February to 31st March 2024 very few days are left out Bengali sorry Bengali chaitanya which is 3000 rupees is now available only for 2600 and the regular selling price of Hindi chaitanya charitamrita is 5000 rupees but now it's available only for 4500 rupees. English regular selling price is 3800 rupees it's available for just 3500. And Orissa, regular selling price is 2200 rupees. Now available for just 1900. So those whose names are sung here in the Sridhar Mayapur, they'll be getting a special Narasimha Puja in a few hours from now in Sridhar Mayapur. So you also please bless them by calling out Nitai Gauranga with me. Nitai Gauranga. Thank you very much. And please pause on this wonderful opportunity of participating in Guru Maharaj's virtual book table. Even if it's a single Bhagavad Gita, just a 10 small books. Of course it is 1 is to 10 ratio. Please call on Gurumara's virtual book table anytime at 91-943 4 and 60402. Stay tuned for tomorrow's Chaitanya class. Now let's all pray again for betterment of Guru Maharaj's health and betterment of Guru Maharaj health and for his full grand glory, Hare Krishna. Okay, let's all pray together. Hare Krishna. Hare Krishna. Krishna Krishna. Thank you very much.
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