20240807 - Karma, yoga and knowledge are fruitless without devotion

A live recorded Srimad Bhagavatam class led by Jaya Pataka Swami (speakers labelled as Krishna and Gurmaj) focusing on the primacy of devotional service (bhakti) over other spiritual practices (karma, jnana, yoga). Key points: karma, yoga and knowledge without devotion are ineffective; regulated devotional practices (sadhana-bhakti) — especially nine methods like hearing, chanting, remembering, worship, service and surrender — awaken the dormant love for God (Krishna-prema); two stages of sadhana-bhakti are distinguished (vaidhi/regulated and raganuga/spontaneous); interactive Q&A addresses worship forms and congregation development; closing includes community book-distribution announcements and prayers for recovery of spiritual leaders.
Hi Krishna. Dear devotees, today we will continue with the reading from half of the chapter.
Yeah, no, we just. If we do it like, you know, today continuously without gap like half an hour, we'll be in the half of the chapter.
Oh, not. Not even half of the chapter. Quite a long one. 30.
How many chapters?
This book is quite an extensive.
We are in 1.6.
Yeah, chapter one sub chapter six. Like that. We have how many chapters? Quite an extensive one.
We can go another one. One and a half year.
If we go in this speed, we can go for another one and a half years to two years.
I don't have here.
There is nothing but what Chaitanya book.
Went for nine years. This book is quite technical and elaborate. The entire philosophy condensed in a book. So yeah, maybe we can think about another book. If you think it's too much, we.
Can discuss that later.
Okay. Continuation Srimad Bhagavatam 11.5.2 to 3 translation and I quote. Each of the four social orders headed by the Brahmanas was born through different combinations of the modes of nature from the face, arms, thighs and feet of the Supreme Lord in his universal form. Thus the four spiritual orders were also generated. If any of the members of the four Varanas and four Ashrama fail to worship or intentionally disrespect the personality of Godhead who is the source of their own creation, they will fall down from their position into a hellish state of life. End of the Code.
That is another term. Title. Okay, ask.
Would he repeat?
Say anything or you can start.
Shall I continue reading this? The End of the Subtopic Okay, I'm going. Okay. Karma, Yoga and knowledge are fruitless without devotion. The Lord says that Karma, Astanga, yoga and knowledge have been prescribed in some scriptures as sadhana. So the less intelligent people, not having grasped the purport of those scriptures and established them as the main Abidaya. Humans are many, are of many types according to the qualification and are of two types according to their difference in pravriti and n. Can you hear me, Gurmaj? Gurmaj is just fixing me. The Lord says that Karma, Ashtanga, yoga and knowledge have been prescribed in some scriptures as Sadhana. So the less intelligent people, not having grasped the purport of those scriptures established them as the main Abhidhraya. Humans are of many types according to the qualification and are of two types according to the difference in Pravriti and nimriti. The Sadhana which the persons of this qualification have obtained to gain the higher position is merely a secondary, not the main sadhana or Abhidhraya. The result of those sadhana is results are those sadhanas there is the result of those sadhanas are merely a step up. So in the obtainment of greater gold, the results are temporary and insignificant. Karma Yoga, Jnana and their various forms of processes have no power to give any kind of results if devotion is not intended. If they have Krishna Bhakti as the ultimate goal, then they yield some secondary results. Merely knowledge alone does not lead to liberation. Liberation is the first fruit that is obtained by the knowledge of relationship that is attained by when the purpose is Bhakti gives us as the first result of liberation is not properly edited is the first. It is Bhakti that effortlessly give the insignificant result of liberation. So the other practices, Jnana yoga, etc.
They're not.
They don't have bhakti, they are insignificant. You don't have bhakti a real goal.
A real practice has brought you along.
The real goal, the real practice is Bhakti Yoga.
Practice material.
And if someone doesn't practice Bhakti Yoga.
The other practices are not very significant.
The other practices are not very significant.
Krishna, he is attracted by loving devotional service.
Krishna, he is attracted by loving devotional service.
Raja Rajas very strong naja of his.
The brajabas is they show natural affection to Krishna and they render devotional service. Those who are entering performing Jnana Yoga, they are not attract. They are not able to attract the Lord. As mentioned in Sriman Bharavatam 7.15.28 and I quote, Ritualistic ceremonies, regulatory principles, austerities and the practice of Yoga are all meant to control the senses and mind. But even after one is able to control the senses and mind, if it does not come to the point of meditation upon the Supreme Lord, all such activities are simply labor in frustration. End of quote. Regarding Karma, it is to be stated that Karma is the Name of Dharma, I.e. the activity suitable for four varnas, social orders and for ashramas. This is called Traivarnika Dharma. In the second shower of this book, the statement of this Traivarnika Dharma is found. In this regard, the Lord's advice is that the man gains strength in regulative devotional practice, Vaidha Sadhana, while engaged comfortably in carrying out the maintenance of the body, family, and so on. Therefore, advanced men are entitled to practice Varnashama Dharma, making it suitable for devotion to Krishna. But those who are situated in Varnashrama Dharma without Aiming at devotion go to hell even after practicing Viswadharma.
Who practices Varanasana without the version of Krishna.
So someone who practices Varanasam with her devotion to Krishna for Krishna. This is an interesting point.
It'll still go to hell.
They can still go to hell if they don't have. If they don't have devotion for Krishna. So it's very important. We only practice Daiva Varashama if it lose hearts yoga if it includes Bhakti yoga.
Otherwise.
Otherwise it's not considered complete.
Nothing.
The third shower of this book contains the description of Sadhana Bhakti. When regulated devotional service Vaivy Sadhana Bhakti becomes pure devotion, then it is worthy of attaining prema. Okay, then the next subtopic love is eternally perfect. All living entities. A living entity's love for God is a living entity's natural eternal Dharma that is real goal of life to be attained. Herein there is an argument that if the goal to be obtained is eternal, then how it can become an object to be obtained? This is what the Lord has said in this connection. Premadhan Nitya Sitta Krishna Prem Satya Kapoon Shamanadi Shuddha Chitti Kore Udhaya My dear Sanatana, what Caitanya says, Please now hear about the regulatory principles for the execution of devotional service. By this process one can attain the highest perfection of love of God which is the most desirable treasure. The spiritual activities of hearing, chanting, remembering and so forth are natural characteristics of devotional service. The marginal characteristic is that it awakens pure love for Ka. Pure love for Ka is eternally established in the hearts of the living entities. It is not something to be gained from another source. When the heart is purified by hearing and chanting, this Love naturally awakens. 22.104 to 107.
Krishna Brahma in our heart.
So every one of us have Krishna Prema in our hearts. But it's karma that's dormant unless we awaken it by the process of process, chanting, hearing, etc. So the sadhana Bhakti performed by the devotees is different. And.
Awaken the attraction of love for Lord Krishna.
So it can awaken the attraction and love for Lord Krishna.
Like a little child has ability to.
Just like a little child has the.
Ability to talk, to walk or it has a load.
But it has to be what it has to be invoked.
Yeah. On the has talked to the child. A child that is gradually starts so.
The child can talk. When the parents talk to the child, then the child Naturally begins to talk and walk just like a child can walk.
These things are naturally in nature of the child.
So these things are naturally in the nature of the child. Similarly, chanting and hearing awakens the natural love for Ka.
So practice of Bhaktiyala Krishna.
So the practice of Bhakti Yoga by regulatory principles reawakens our love of Ka.
So I see the voice, chanting, dancing. Naturally it's hard to different times of.
So we see devotees chanting and dancing. Naturally we see eventually they feel spiritual ecstasy. We see some of the devotees spinning around and dancing.
That's why this was our way.
So naturally these emotions are awakened. The purport of the Lord's statement is that love is perfected substance. That love is found in the marginal characteristics Atashtra Lakshana in the living entity. When it is under the illusion of Maya, it does not arise. The original characteristics for Rupalakshana the original characteristics for Rupalakshana of Sadhana Bhakti are the activities of chanting, hearing, remembering etc of Krishna's name, qualities, pastimes as mentioned in Sriman Bhagavadam in Pranat Maharaj's teachings say, and I quote, hearing and chanting about the transcendental holy name form qualities, paraphernalia and pastimes of Lord Vishnu. Remembering them, serving the lotus feet of the Lord, offering the Lord respectful worship with 16 types of paraphernalia, offering praise to the Lord, becoming his servant, considering the Lord as one's best friend and surrendering everything unto Him. In other words, serving him with body, mind and words. These nine processes are accepted as pure devotional service. One who has dedicated his life to the service of Krishna through these nine methods should be understood to be the most learned person for he has acquired concrete knowledge.
This is actually different.
So in Naval Dam there are nine islands.
Each island connected with one of the rust.
Each island is connected with one of the processes of devotional service.
Regardless anyone or more.
So if you practice any one or more of this devotional service, even it is following rules and regulation. Gradually one can awaken his dominant love for Krishna.
So that's how powerful Bhakti Yoga is.
That's how powerful Bhakti Yoga is.
All of conscious is like.
The other process, like Gyana and yoga. They don't have that power.
Matriyala processes.
Bhakti Yoga with these nine processes has the power to awaken our dominant love for Krishna. And he goes.
Yes.
Goodness, how far you have gone.
Let us finish this.
He's asking how far you have gone.
I have edited clearly so he's asking.
So what should I answer? How do I know that we don't know how far we have gone.
I have to open. See, screen isn't. Screen is sharing. We have to go more. No, no. We continue Gurma some more. Because it's screen sharing is there. I cannot see how far we gone. You have to understand.
If you continue, we'll find the way.
That's great. See, I have edited.
That's right.
Yeah. This we finish. Then we'll end today's.
If you finish this, we end today's section. While performing that sadhana, love first emerges just like a hidden fire in the marginal characteristics Tata Lakshana and manifests itself in the original characteristics. So Rupa Lakshana. When the subtle body is destroyed at the time of Vastu Sitdi where both gross Vastu Vastu Siddhi. Where both the gross and subtle material bodies are completely destroyed. Therefore, Krishna Prema is the perfected substance that's not born by Sadhana but only by hearing and chanting and so on. It rises in the purified heart. In this the necessity of Sadhana will be evident. The Sadhana bhakti is of two types. Vaini Sadhana bhakti and Raganuga Sadhana bhakti.
Actually today this much malady. And if Guru Mahaj wants, they will do it.
Heritages regulation.
So one practices Sadhana bhakti by rules and regulation.
And then one starts to enjoy it.
And then one starts to enjoy it likes it. So these practices are naturally Sadhana bhakti.
Konashko.
When one is more natural, more spontaneous that is considered as Ravanuga. So when one is performing some yoga by rules and regulation, some Sadhana by following rules and regulates. By performing some sadhana by following rules in regulation, then one naturally performs that sadhana that becomes one's nature.
Spontaneous devotion is called.
And then that spontaneous devotion is called Raga Nuga.
Gorgeous. It becomes natural.
So when it becomes natural. Natural. What? What was the second one you said?
Our subject nature.
When it becomes our second nature.
Fall from the root regulations to me.
So then we'll go from the rules and regulation platform to Ravananda.
I heard Little white my zone.
Yeah, of course. They like.
All the orders.
Yeah, I saw them show damage, man. How? Oh, I mean display them one by one. Oh, show. Okay. Turn the camera towards.
Intelligent boy. Finally.
More than 100.
It is.
Yes, they say the voice.
Yes, they saw. Yeah, yeah, they saw. Guru Maharaj.
They seen Online.
Yes, they say online.
See, it is not working. Any question.
What time would you go. Okay, okay. There are few questions.
Eight.
It's eight. Eight. Fifteen. Okay, Good man. There's some question from the Russian devotees.
You read this question, Gurma, one question is ready already.
There's a question here.
They.
Okay. This is a question from your disciple Jugal Seva Devidasi. Usually we worship Gornita as virhastas with luxurious outfits and jewelry. Can we worship the Lord? Can we worship them as Lord Chaitanya meets Sannyasi? With Lord Chaitanya having simple saffron cloves, no jewelry and hair. Sounds quite economical.
And then without Rabbi was telling us.
Prabhupada was actually telling us how we don't like to see Lord Shaitanya Sannyasi.
He'S the Lord.
He's the Lord.
Why should he have.
Why he has to do some austerities. So when we are seeing the Lord as a Sannyasi, we should be thinking, why is he doing austerities? So I was thinking that it's better. So our thinking is that it's better to worship the Lord opulent. Guru Maharaj, what about offering peacock to Lord Chaitanya? Is it a noun? You see, Lord Chaitanya is Krishna. If you want to offer him peacock feather, you can. Okay. There's one more question from your disciple. No, this is your question.
I sent you already.
I'm getting their questions.
They are here, Guruma there in zoom. They are hearing.
Please accept my respectful obeisances, all glories to Shiva Prabhupada. Please accept my blessings. After we try to preach and connect upcoming devotees to a congregation. We see even after a year or so, they are inconsistent. How do we overcome this in a congregation and develop it? And develop the congregation.
I have little errors.
So I have physiotherapists. They come every morning.
They do something nice. I wonder.
I wonder where you are if you do something nice. I say, wonderful, wonderful. Very good.
I don't do this on the right, like this on my knives.
So if I don't, they'll wait till I do something nice. What's that? They will shower praise and then they will shower praise.
I guess this is a way of.
I guess this is a way of physiotherapy.
Anyway, Lord Chaitanya.
Anyway, Lord Chaitanya, in the third verse of Sikshastaka, he says, offer praise to others and don't expect anything for yourself. So don't think. What are the defects in the sadhana of the new devotee?
They do something nice.
They do something nice.
Now and find out of them.
Cooking.
So in this way you can preach to them. If you fry them out, the possibility of them continuing is quite bleak. Oh, you are in my. You are not very good. We hear this quite often. You don't say that. If they do something good, you say very good.
Very good. I sent you more questions. Even tomorrow.
Should consciously encourage Hare Krishna's time for dinner. We'll continue tomorrow. Gurmaj is blessing all of you online and offline. Online and offline devotees. Okay. Oh, what happened to your name? You changed it.
Okay.
Okay. Gallery view Darshan Harita Mataji Hare Krishna is too late.
Has blessed all of you both on the Zoom, Facebook, YouTube and those who basically present here. So dear fortunate devotees, welcome to Puruna's virtual book table. There's a physical book table right behind you. For those who are physically present here on this transcendental rooftop of Lotus Building in Sridhar Mayapur, this is a very special occasion. There's a personal book table of Guru Maharaj. So before you visit, I mean you leave, please do visit the physical book table right behind you and see what service you can offer as part of the pastime being participating in the pastime of Guru Maharaj and distributing Sila Prabhupada books. So we have today Prema Bharti Lata Devidasi from Chennai, 6 Bhagavad Gita Mumbai from Assam, 2 Bhagavad Gita Rupas and Gupta from Assam, 1 Bhagavad Gita Nantu Bhav from Bubli, 1 Bhagavad GitA M. Samantha from Bhagavad Gita Subal das from Tirupura, 5 Bhagavad Gita Kalahashmi from Mumbai, 12 Bhagavad Gita Malini Sundari Devi from Bangalore, 36 Bhagavad Gita Radhakanta Gopal Das from Tamil Nadu, 5 Bhagavad GitA Anuradhan and the Gaura Haridas from Chennai, 2 Balor Gita to Sha De from from Bengaluru 25 Dr. Ankit Bhargava from Ahmedabad Gita Prema Prakash Gourdas from UK, 2 Bhagavad Gita and 20 small books. A perfect one is to 10 ratio. As exactly Guru Maharaj is requesting to fulfill Srila Prabhupada's instruction. So this is a very good example. Thank you very much. Premium Prakash do from Singapore. Exactly 1 is to 10 ratio as Gurungraj desired. Thank you very much. Being a good example from Haldiai From Mumbai From UK 4 BHAG From Delhi 51 so all these devils are getting a special Nim Puddha in a few hours from now. And see how Mayapur those whose names are chanted in the holy th and all of you devotees please do bless them by calling out Nita Yoranga with me Nita and please pause on this wonderful opportunity of participating the first name of Sri La Guru Maharaj. Even if it's a one Bhagavad Gita ten small books of course it's one is to ten ratio and do WhatsApp anytime. The Guru Praj Virtual book table at 9194-3434-7676-0404-0202 stay tuned for tomorrow's Lord Chaitanya class and let's pray for the speedy recovery and full recovery of Guru Maharaj. Also our prayers to Srila Nar Singadeva for protecting all the Bangladesh devotees Ugram Viram Mahavishnam, Jalantam Sarvato Mukam so let's pray for Guru street recovery and Bangladesh devotees. Join me the prayers. Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Rama Rama Har thank you very much Voice no Prana.
Okay, we'll see. We'll connect here also tomorrow.
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