20241014 - The determination of caste according to nature is scientific and recommended by the ār…

A recorded lecture (Oct 2024) by Jaya Pataka Swami discussing Varnasrama (caste) system as described in Srila Sachidananda Bhakti Vinaya Thakur's Caitanya Sikshamrita and Srimad-Bhagavatam. The speaker explains caste determined by nature (svabhava), contrasts India’s historical Varnasrama 'scientific' social order with the perceived incomplete adoption in Europe, describes historical decline in Kali-yuga, and emphasizes Lord Chaitanya’s mercy and chanting (Hare Krishna) as the remedy. The chunk ends with community announcements and book-distribution reports.
The Krishna Krishna Hari Hari.
Rama Hare.
Foreign Hare Krishna Dear devotees, Happy Akadashi Today we will continue with the reading from Shri Caitanya Sikshamrita of Srila Sachidananda Bhakti Vinathakur. Okay. Continuation of the nature Varna and Ashrama nature of the mixed lower classes Antiyaja Swabhava the nature of the Anteyaja People are being without the understanding of what is to be done and what is not to be done. Without proper behavior of always fond of quarrels Extremely selfish gluttony for filling the belly without marriage rules. If these natures are not given up then there is no nature of human. So the human nature is only of the four types. So.
Why did I talk about explaining if someone has no current holidays?
So Srila Bhaktived Thakur is telling if someone is not having human qualities then they tend to have the Antiyajas Vibhav.
That means they not have any Vedic rules.
That means they do not have any any Vedic rules.
So he is recommending that to practice devotional service and get all these lack of rules.
So he says to practice devotional service one has to give up. What was the last thing you said?
Lack of rules.
Just lack of rules. The nature. Okay, next Lack of rules. The determination of caste according to nature is scientific and recommended by the Archa Arya Rishis. The duty is to accept the instincts or qualities and corresponding actions according to the nature. If actions against nature is done then those actions will be not good or fruitful. A portion of any nature is called genius in English. Changing mature nature is not easy. Oh okay. Matured nature. Therefore, while working according to one's nature maintain life and strive for Paramartha in this Indian state human beings have acquired the four castes from the above mentioned four natures. When one is situated in the society is according to the division by caste then all social actions become naturally fruitful and there is auspiciousness in the whole. The society in which the caste system is adopted the Varuna system is adopted. Their society is based on science and is worshipped by all mankind. Some may doubt that when the human beings of the European continent have always done big tasks and been respectable in other countries without accepting the Varna system then there is no real need to accept the Varna system. This doubt is futile because European nations are very young and modern human of the younger age are often stronger and more daring Due to that strength and courage they are doing so many things in the world by collecting many knowledge science techniques that been obtained from the people of previous race. If the nation becomes gradually older then due to the absence of science based society it will collapse very quickly. Because of the presence of the Varna system among the Indian Aryan Varna symptoms are manifesting even in old age. Romans and Greeks were once stronger and more virile than modern Europeans. What is their situation today? They have become different, devoid of the science of caste by accepting the religion and symptoms of other modern nations. And so they no longer feel proud of their bravery of their native heroes. Of their native heroes in our country. Even though the Aryan race is much older than the Romans and Greeks but they are very proud of their previous brave men of India. Why? Only because the Varnasrama system was very strong in force. Their varnish symptoms did not go away. King King Rana having been killed by the Malaysias is still known to everyone as a warrior born in Ramachandra's dynasty. No matter how much how much people of India have fallen due to old age and Varna system As long as the Varna system prevails, they will. They will by Aryans never. They will be by Aryans never. An Aryan people of Aryan origin like Romans and so on in Europe have mixed with the Anteja caste people like Han and Bhandal. If we discuss the present society of the European nation it will be seen that whatever beauty there is that the society is also by taking shelter of the inherent nature of caste in Europe. A person with a merchant mercantile nature likes only business and flourish through trade and commerce. A person who is of Kshatriya nature adopts military line or the action of soldiers. Those who are of Shudra nature love to do some general service. In fact, no society can function without adopting Varna system. To some extent, lower and higher status based on Ka Varna and nature are also seen in marriage ceremonies. Although Varna system was adopted to some extent and established the society of European caste that caste system did not take full form scientifically among them. As much the civilization and knowledge advance in Europe to that extent the caste system will be more complete. There are two types of method in all matters that is Unscientific method and scientific method. As long as the unscientific method is not followed, the scientific method is not followed. The activity continues to be in the unscientific way. For example, the steamboat was not prepared according to scientific methods. Unscientific boats etc. Were used for navigation. The society is also like that. That is, till the caste system is not run in a perfect manner in the country its unscientific percussor continues to run the society of that country. The unscientific primary caste system has been driving force of society in Europe. In short, everywhere except India. For this reason India is called Karma Kshetra place of action. Okay.
Saw this writing of this.
Broad.
Consumption of humans is higher.
So this writing of Bhaktived Thakur gives a broad conception of the human society.
And we were reading earlier he spoke a lot about Lord Chaitanya.
What we read earlier he spoke a lot about Lord Chaipanya of this diesel.
Speaking on the Aryan culture.
Now just now he's speaking on the Aryan culture.
According to the varnish system people tend to follow whatever their nature is.
According to the Varanasrama system, people tend to follow and according to whatever their nature is.
And so that way they they scientifically divided the society.
So in that way they scientifically divided the society.
Now India called the scientific system.
India followed the scientific system of Varanasrama.
The rest of the world didn't really follow it.
And the rest of the world didn't really follow it.
They did it in a kind of way.
They did it in a kind of different way.
Hands on was saying that the thing he could not tell us was Varanajrama.
And Srila Prabhupada was saying the thing that he could not establish was Varnashrama.
He wanted to have the visual.
Follow.
The Varanasrama system that he wanted the.
People to follow the Varanashrama system. The current state, sorry, the current caste rules are corrupt. Now the question is whatever the caste system that is currently being observed in India in healthy condition, the answer is no. Even after the caste system was fully established in India. Finally, due to contacting diseases, diseases, many sufferings and degradations were seen in India. Otherwise, even though the Indians retired from war due to old age, they could have happily settled in the role as advisers to other nations. Like a retired elder brother. It is necessary to consider what the unhealthiness is. Brahmanism is determined as per activity at the beginning of the Treta Yuga when scientific discussions of the Aryan caste were sufficient. At that time Varnashrama system was established. Wrong Sociala Prabhupada. He wanted to establish Varnashama in Iskcon. Mainly Brahmanas.
People who know the scriptures.
People who knew this, who knows the scripture.
And they got advice people to leave their life.
Away and they could advise people to lead their life in more spiritual way.
So that was his hope.
So that was his hope.
But he was taking Lots of people that didn't follow the Holzer and all that he down to.
So he was taking people from Yavanas and Malaysia, people who don't follow the Vedic system and he was elevating them to Vaishnavas and sorry Brahmanas and Vaishnavas as mentioned in the Srimad Bhagavatam 11.1 7.10 to 13 in the beginning in Satya Yuga there is only one social class called Hamsa, called Hamsa to which all human beings belong. In that age all people are unalloyed devotees of the Lord from birth. And thus learned scholars call this first age as Krita Yuga or the age in which all religions duties are perfectly fulfilled. In Satya Yuga the undivided Veda is expressed by the syllable Om and I am the only object of mental activities. I become manifest as the four legged bull of religion. And thus the inhabitants of Satya Yuga, fixed in austerity and free from all sins worship me as Lord Hamsa. O greatly fortunate one. At the beginning of Staita Yuga Vedic knowledge appeared from my heart which is the abode of the heir of life in three divisions as Rukh Sama and Yajur. Then from that knowledge I appeared as threefold sacrifice. In Treta Yuga four social orders were manifested from the universal form of the personality of Godhead. The Brahmanas appeared from the Lord's face, the Kshatriyas from the Lord's arms and Vaishyas from the Lord's thighs and the Shudra from the lakes of the Almighty form. Each social, social divisions, division was recognized by its particular duties and behavior. So we are in the Kaluga. What's that? In Kali Yoga they are gradually they are more and more degraded. What gradually there is no spiritual wisdom.
Lord Chaitanya appeared. He wants to deliver all the people.
So in this Kali the Lord Chaitanya appeared and he wants to deliver all the people by chanting the holy names of Krishna. The rule during that time was that every person would get caste according to his nature and according to that caste he would get the qualification to perform the action specified by the caste. The work of the world was conducted in a beautiful manner by the rules of division of labor and the rules of determining the nature. One who did not have the Father's caste was classified by nature alone. Vedic history, Jabali and Gautama, Janashruti and Chitra Ratha are examples of this without whom the caste of the Father was specified. By seeing both the Nature and lineage the caste was determined. Agnivesya himself became a Maharishi by the name Jatukarna in Navishyanta dynasty. In his lineage arose the famous Brahmana lineage called Agni Vaishyana Jahanu the son of Hotraka in the Ayla dynasty attained Brahmanahood. In the Bharata dynasty was Bharatwaja whose name was Vitathara. In this lineage, Naradi's son became Kshatriya and Garga's son became Brahmana. Mouthgalya, gotra, Shatananda, Kripacharya etc. Were born in the dynasty of Bhary King. Such examples are numerous in the scriptures. I have mentioned only a few of them. At the time when such genuine reforms were in work, the fame of India was influential and powerful as midday sun. All nations then worshipped Indians as kings, controllers and gurus. At that time people of countries like Egypt, China etc. Used to take advice from Indian with respectful fear. So India was having very advanced spiritual culture and.
The horizon doesn't conveys.
So in the separation of the Hindu federation different countries have taken some assets.
They had. They are saying that the culture of.
The.
Worshippers of the forefathers.
So in Japan they are saying that the worshippers of the forefathers they also came to India and.
Indo, China they all have some aspect of Indians also.
And Indochina they also have some aspect of Indian aspects of Indian culture.
When Modi went to Asian Asian.
So when Narendra Modi went to the.
Recent Asian summit they played Ram Chandra.
So they played Ramchandra drama.
So Harry and I went traveling to Russia they had. They had a Russian radar.
So when I was traveling to Russia they had a Russian Veda.
I don't know. I don't know it's history. But in that Russian radar they had different archives. Indian history.
I don't know it has some history. But they were saying in the Russian Veda they had different aspects of Indian history.
Military. Some people are scientists, some people are.
Business.
Some little workers.
So we have people of different nature. Some people are in military, some people in scientists in different fields. And some people are. What was the last thing? Workers. Yeah.
Although they don't follow caste system.
Also although they don't firmly follow the caste system of our nation.
But still how people are during different times of how to recognize the nature.
Still people are doing work according to their different kinds of nature. So Lord Chaitanya, whatever nature people would have, he would raise them to the chanting of Hare Krishna and.
Things are very messed up but things.
Things are very mixed up in Kali Yuga Lord Chaitanya he elevates people by his causeless mercy Even if you chant the Panchitatva name Hare Ka name Lord Caitanya delivers you hold on.
Below your eyes of lime taste examine the holy.
Name People would get very sublime taste by chanting the Holy name so we're.
Living here in the birthplace.
So we are living here in the birthplace of Lord Chaitanya so.
He has taught us.
So he has taught us we should chant the Holy name In that way we can advance spiritually.
And no matter where in the world you are chanting Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Hare Hare.
No matter wherever in the world you are by chanting the Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare you would get the sublime taste. Like in Cambodia they have the Angkor.
Wat temple and in Thailand they have dance drama Rama Chen so in Thailand.
They have this what drama Dance drama called the Rama King Rama King Rama King Hare Krishna Kurum Maharaj please accept our respectful obeisances Guru Maharaj Ki Jai we don't even have comments today Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Jai Guru Maharaj Jai Guru Dev so there are the Japanese devotees here today? Where are they? Can you please raise your welcome Dear Guru Maharaj please accept my humble obeisances blessings it foreign.
Welcome to Gurumaj's virtual book table from Sri Dam Mayapur and today's we have a fortunate devotees who are participating in the book distribution Sankapani Nasima Prabhu from Mumbai 1 Sri Mat Bhagatam set Sudhir Sundar Das from Malaysia 1 Sri Mad Bhagatam set Sakshi Jaishwal from Lucknow 1 Sri Mad Bhagavatam set Jainanda Gaura Haridas from Chennai 2 Gitas Vinodhani Gaurangitas from Assam 2 Bhagavad Gitas and Harjit Kaur from Bangalore 1 Gita Jayda Rukmini Devidasi from Dhamma-Yatra 5 Gitas Prema Bhakti Lata Devidasi from Chennai 6 Gitas Raghukula Pramdhas from Assam 3 Gitas Dr. Pradipattacharya from Chennai 1 Srimad Bhagavatam set eg Parandhaman from Chennai 2 Gitas Shushil Madhav Das from Bhardavan 2 Gitas Matreshwari Mohini Devidasi from Mayapur 8 Gitas Sripatha Chhutadas from Chennai 16 Bhagavad Gitas and under 8 small books. Rati Malini from Bangalore 35 Gitas and 350 small books. A perfect one is to 10 ratio. Highly appreciated Mataji. Good longstanding example. And from Kasadesh we have Yugula Devidasi Jhau R Hui 10 Gitas Mtoshan Krishna Das 2 Gitas Srila Prabhupada the Transcendental Book Distribution Ki Also these devotees get a special Nasima Puja and Fewers from Navin Shiram Mypur. All of you devotees also bless them calling out loudly after me. Please pass on this wonderful opportunity participating in the pastime of Guru Maharaj in distributing Srila Prabhupada books. Even if it is a single bhagavad gita and just 10 small books. Yes it is one is to 10 ratio. Please do WhatsApp Guru Maharaj's virtual Book Table at any time to announce Your contribution at 9194-347604-02919, 434-7-60402 Stay tuned for tomorrow's Loh Chaitanya's class. Now prayers. Let's pray for this PD and full recovery of Guru Maharaj. And of course our prayers include for all those who are celebrating their anniversaries for their well being and blissful Krishna consciousness. Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Let us offer our respectful humble obeisances at all the Vaishnavas Patitanam Pavani Bio Namon Namaharya Shila Kurki Jagad Guru Shila Prabhupad Kara.
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