A recorded class led by Jaya Pataka Swami (with readings and commentary) on true vs. false renunciation (sannyas) in the Vaishnava tradition. The speakers quote Srila Sachidananda and Bhakti Vinoda Thakur and describe four types of illegitimate renunciates—markata (monkey), kapata (hypocrite), astira (unsteady), and pretentious—giving scriptural references and anecdotal examples showing why premature or material-driven renunciation is harmful. The recording ends with local community announcements: the 22nd annual day at Bhaktivedanta National School, a Guru Maharaj book table and instructions for distributing Srila Prabhupada books (including stated monthly targets), citation of a Srila Prabhupada letter (April 11, 1971), and closing prayers.
Questions this video answers
April 11, 1971
10,000 large books and 100,000 small books every month (1:10 ratio)
The 22nd annual day at the Bhaktivedanta National School
Hari.
Namah Sri Madhu Sutana Pangun Langai Tegirim Sri Gurum.
Continuing with the reading from Sri Chaitanya Shikshamrata by Srila Sachidan and the Bhakti Vinath Thakur Detachment when this change is determined by the spiritual master, taking into account the eligibility and in accordance with all scriptural injunctions, only then does it become a true renunciation. However, the current practice has become highly detrimental. The acceptance of external signs of renunciation by one who has not yet attained bhava leads to various troubles. Many, without being firmly established in proper devotion, adopt the baker external garb of renunciation for the convenience of life, either due to momentary renunciation or unrestrained behavior. Momentary renunciation is due to marital disputes, household difficulties, lack of marriage, cessation of business for prostitutes, addiction to intoxicants, or sudden renunciation arising from indiscretion. This momentary renunciation leads young men to approach a babaji or Goswami for some money except a lion cloth and an outer garment. As a result, very soon this renunciation diminishes and those who take shelter of this either man or woman will fall under the sway of their senses, engaging in sense gratification. By establishing some form of illicit household or secretly indulging in immoral activities, they achieve no spiritual benefit. If such illegal acceptance of bheka is not completely removed, then Vaishnava world will not benefit in any way. It was previously described while describing the consideration of Varnasrama Dharma that the improper renunciation is a sinful activity causing the destruction of the world. This improper renunciation is a sin associated with the renounced order of Varna Shma Dharma. The current improper renunciation judged here is considered a great offence in devotional service. This judgment can be found in the appendix of the Satkriya Sara Deepika composed by Gopal Bhattago Swami. Among those who introduce themselves as Vaishnava Vairagi, very few possess true detachment born of devotion. I always offer my dandavat prostrated respectful obeisances at the feet of such individuals. The illegitimate renunciates are divided into the following four categories Markata Vairaki monkey renunciant kapatavairagi hypocritical Renuncian Astira Vairaki unsteady Renuncian pretentious Renuncian When Lord Chaitanya was traveling in South India.
Householder told Lord Chaitanya how he wanted to follow him.
A householder he told Lord Chaitanya that he wanted to follow him. But Lord Chaitanya told him, don't be a market of Iraqi a monkey renunciate. So Lord Chaitanya was not in favor of people prematurely taking renunciation.
I sat in my classes good Brihasta.
So I said in my class it is better to be a good Brihasta than being a bad Brahmachari Market of hierarchy those who have not attained true renunciation but wish to wander around dressed like renunciant while their uncontrolled senses constantly bring about another those who adopt the symbols of renunciation without having achieved true detachment are referred to as monkey renouncement by Mahaprabhu as mentioned in Sri Chaitanya Mahcharitamrita and Telila 2.120 124There are many persons with little in their possession who accept the renounced order of life. Like monkeys they go here and they are engaging in sense gratification speaking intimately with women My mind is not under my control. It does not like to see anyone in the renounced order who talks intimately with women. So.
People famous shortly Table.
Soup if people prematurely take the renounced order, Lord Caitanya termed them as Marcata Vairakyas. Lord Chaitanya didn't approve how people suddenly taking up the renounced renounced practices as.
A result very nicely.
As a result people in the renounced order they practice something else. Kapata Vairagi Hypocritical Renunciant those who dine with the Vaishnavas during festivals and despite causing trouble rely on the Vaishnavas for their funeral rites. At the time of death the householders will lovingly offer food and provide money for unproductive activities like smoking ganja and tobacco. Such deceitful people who adopt the garb of renunciation with these expectations are called hypocritical renunciants. Shri Thakur Mahasaya has instructed the hypocritical renounce by attracts by addressing himself Hoya Mayardas Karina Abhilash Tomar Facebook Hypocritical Renunciation he has given some example here. Some so called renunciant smoked ganger and tobacco people donate to them but they use it for hypocritical things. As Narutam Das Thakur Mahasaya as instructed the hypocritical renunciants by addressing himself Hoya Mayar Das Cori Nana Abhilash Thomas Maran Geladure Arthabha A Ashe Kapot Vaishnava Beshe Brahmiya Berai Ghore Ghore Sri Narutam Dastakur says, becoming a servant of Maya, desiring various things, your remembrance has gone far away. In the hope of monetary gain and in the guise of a hypocritical Vaishnava, I wander from house to house. So Vaishnava is supposed to be attached to Krishna. But instead if they are attached to breaking the principles and they adopt the renunciant dress.
Rich householders to finalize their.
Sinful activities just to get the rich householders to finance their sinful activities. Two more Astirabhairaki Unsteady renuncian temporary renunciation arises due to quarrels, distress, lack of wealth in ailments and marriage failures. Those who adopt the garp of renunciation driven by such momentary renunciation are considered unsteady renunciants. Okay? Their renunciation does not last and they very soon become hypocritical renunciation. In the same way he has instructed, I mean Narustam Dastakur has instructed the unsteady pretentious renunciants. Orebai Baja Moro Goranga Charan Nabaji Agenu Dhu dubi griho bishokupe Dr. Hoyla A Panchaparan Ripu bash Indriya Hoyla Gorap for the Pasharila Bimuka Hoyla Dhano Sri Narutam Dastakur says. Oh brother, worship my Goranga's feet. Not worshipping, I have suffered drowning in the poisonous well of household life. And my five senses have been scorched. My senses have fallen under the control of enemies. I have forgotten Gora's feet. Such a valuable wealth has turned its face away.
So here we have a person who has diagnosed with some terminal disease.
So here you have like a person who's diagnosed with some terminal disease. So he wants to take baker.
Parking lot now.
So at that time this renowned sheikh who got this terminal disease, he took a wish of Becca. Okay. And he had a grassheart in the parking lot. We didn't have so many visitors then.
What grasshops have lot? Mosquitoes.
The grasshearts have mosquitoes.
Tick Tiki lickers.
And they also have tik Tiki lickers.
You tell the truth.
Oh lizard. So they had the stick ticking lizard. Do they have those in Andhra Pradesh? So if you tell the truth, they'll go tick tick. So after a couple of weeks he said that he's going to stay in the lotus building. What's that?
Too austere.
Too austere to live in the grass heart.
As he stayed, he then decided all.
That and so after that, after staying in the Lotus Building, he wanted to go back to America and try a cure. And he went back to America and took some tear.
So these are the unsteady renunciates.
So these are the unsteady renunciates. Okay. They think about renunciation with the mind which is not fixed. Those who become unfit for household life due to addiction to intoxicants, who exhibit a kind of pretentious devotion to Lord Shri Hari during their intoxicated state, who try to demonstrate signs of devotion through habitual rati and who attempt to practice pure rati under the shelter of material rati becomes pretentious renunciants by adopting the symbols of renunciation. All such renunciations are insignificant, harmful and detrimental to the living entity. The detachment that arises from devotion is the true beauty of a devotee's life. Seeking devotion through the renunciation is unnatural and often inauspicious. Excuse me. The end.
Oh yeah.
Oh, we come to the end.
8:30.
Yes, 8:30. Right now.
One may take the renunciation.
One may take to renunciation. What's that? I couldn't find a purple wife. Had some problem or had some problem.
His wife wanted a divorce. So he wanted to take sannyas.
Somebody came to Srila Prabhupada because his wife wanted to wanted a divorce. He wanted to take sannyas.
Had short time, he said.
After some short time he said. Why didn't you all tell me? It's so difficult all day. What I'm doing is just thinking about my ex wife.
He didn't last.
He didn't last in his renunciation. Some people want to renounce because of some material reasons.
If you are attached to Krishna, naturally. Just.
So. The thing is that if you are attached to Krishna and you are in Baba Bhakti, then naturally you are detached from sense enjoyment.
Always zero reasons. Renunciation causes fall down.
All this material reason for renunciation causes fall down because things may change. What's that?
He doesn't want renunciation.
He doesn't want renunciation.
We had 22nd annual day at the.
We had the 22nd annual day at the. At the Bhaktivedanta National School. I spoke and Hrita Chaitanya Prabhu spoke. They showed a drama. Could all have come. Since you're doing kirtan here. So I came back. That's about 20 minutes. We have to go.
Krishna Mater. Dear devotees, there's a physical book table right to your left near the gate. So kindly visit those who are physically present here. It's meant for only you. Nobody else is going to come here. And it's a personal physical book table of Guru Maharaj. So please visit and see in what way you can serve Guru Maharaj in distributing Srila Prabhupada books. Either buy or sell or sponsor or you know in what way you can serve. Welcome to Guru Maharaj virtual book table. Srila Prabhupada wrote to Bhagawan on April 11, 1971. Your program of door to door Sankirtana is very encouraging. The more men understand the importance of our movement, the more they will invite us to their homes and clubs. Because Krishna Consciousness is a life giving ambrosia. So increase this program more and more and we shall be able to distribute all our books which is even more important than membership. Of course, if we can do both at the same time, that's the best. That's why we are giving book set along with for life membership Marathan slogan Live to give. Today we have NRA Chana Vinita Gandhasi B4 small book from Kadesh we have our D Mataji and her family 1 Bhagavad Gitan 10 small book exactly 1 is to 10 ratio. This is the instruction specially given to Srila Guru Maharaj by Srila Prabhupada that to distribute 10,000 Maha big books and 100,000 small books every month. It's a monthly contribution as a 1 is to 10 ratio. And Domini Mataji is giving as a daily contribution in one student ratio to assist Guru Maharaj fulfilling this instruction of Srila Prabhupada. Thank you Domini Mataji for being a wonderful exemplary example for the whole world. Gayatri Devidasi 1 Gita Pirate Hey & Wang Lan Yu 1 Bhagavad Gita Srila Prabhupada Transcendental Book Distribution all these devotees are getting a special Narasimha Puja in a few hours from now in Sidham Mayapur. And all of you devotees also please call out Nitai Gonga with me and bless them. And please pause on this wonderful opportunity of participating in the past name of Guru Mahraj distributing silver books even with a single Bhagavad Gita and 10 small books. Do WhatsApp 24 hours 14 at any time at + 919-434-760402. Stay tuned for tomorrow's Ra Chaitanya class and let's do an intense prayers for Guru Maharaj's health. Full recovery and speedy recovery. Tomorrow he's having dialysis all of you know so. And of course our prayers include for all those who are celebrating their anniversaries today for their well being and blissful Krishna consciousness. Please join me in the prayers. Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hari thank you very much. Vaishno Pranam Wanchakal Patarubia Kripas Indubia Avocha Patitanam Pavane Namah Jaislagurumaraj Kijai.
