20241204 - Third Stream — Jñāna-vicāra part 2

Jaya Pataka Swami and others critique Advaita philosophy using Sri Chaitanya Shikshamrita and Tattva Sandarbha, arguing that Srimad Bhagavatam teaches pure devotees seek only service, not liberation. The session includes chanting, blessings, and announcements about book distribution.
Krishna Saravani Prachari.
Shi.
Rama Ramahari Hare Sri Chaitanyami Swaram.
Hare Krishna Dear devotees, today we'll continue with the reading from Sri Chaitanya Shikshamrita of Srila Sachidananda Bhakti Vinath Thakur Continuation as mentioned in the Tattva Sandarbha 1.35 to 37 and 1.40 in 1.35 it is mentioned indeed, when that single conscious entity Brahman is endowed with the power of Maya and filled with knowledge, that Maya is subjected to ignorance. Thus, the distinction between individual soul and the supreme Lord Ishvara is understood as per the Mayavadis 1.36 then, due to the differences in their inherent natures and capacities, these two entities are perceived to have distinctly different essences. Yeah, this is the first one, Shila Guru Maharaj 1.36 Then, due to differences in their inherent natures and capacities, these two entities are perceived to have distinctly different essences. However, the separation based on the hierarchy of conditioning and reflected reality cannot be maintained.
In that case.
1.37 in that case, if the conditioning itself, being illusory, is considered real, then the subject of such a conditioning cannot, cannot truly be separated from it. A reflection's association with medium upadhi and the absence of the original's difference from its reflection, coupled with lack of visibility of the original, establish that the reflection is seen only in the limited space. However, the vast space itself is not seen as such. When knowledge and ignorance come to an end, what remains as Brahman is purely as consciousness becomes absolutely pure due to the association of knowledge, the same entity, when associated with ignorance, appears as the impure Shiva. Again, when the same entity imagined under the influence of the Jiva's ignorance and under the shelter of Maya becomes Ishvara, the same entity due to Maya's subjectivity appears as the Jiva. This results in an apparent contradiction which can be resolved only by understanding their true natures. The third point in Brahmajna, the world is false. The fourth he who identifies as an individual soul becomes Brahman if he can renounce that identification. Fifth, liberation is the ultimate necessity.
Sixth.
Brahman is without qualities, that is, it is without any potency. When speaking against practical perception, one must be extremely careful as failing to prove such assertion can lead to being considered insane. The world is easily perceived as real. The idea that the soul is a distinct minute entity is also simple perception with logic. It is natural to believe that Brahman is the creator, controller and sustainer of everything. To say, I do not exist and everything I see is not real. Inside there is one truth and everything else is an illusion is based on that truth. Who makes such propositions? If a deluded individual makes such proposition, then this proposition, like the other proposition might be false Also be false deluded individuals.
So here the person who tossed my word his.
Here the person who talks Mayawat his thinking in this way he thinks Jagat Mithya Brahma Satya what.
Sense is.
True since he's saying this world is not true? Not.
Just his opinion, this is just.
His opinion.
Shows how he's misusing the scriptural.
So Lord Chaitanya shows how they are misusing the scriptural injunctions.
And if you don't understand.
If you are able to understand, you can also get people to follow us.
Because.
Because Lord Chaitanya said Mayavadi Bashashunilai hoi Sharvanash Lord Caitanya said by listening to Mayavadi's interpretation, everything becomes diminished.
This is their opinion.
So this is their opinion.
Telling us how this handle was.
So Bhakti Vena Thakur is telling us how this kind of illusory talk may also be false delusion and misconception. Intoxicated individuals always make such proposals. Sometimes they consider themselves kings and nobles and are not ready to act on such beliefs. So if they consider themselves Brahman, is there any doubt in this? There are many kinds of delusions among which the main ones are fallacies. Fallacies due to faulty reasoning, delusion due to mental distress and delusions due to intoxication. Human intelligence, when corrupted by arguments, becomes the progenitor of such severe delusions.
Humble.
So one may give such bewilderment as an argument. But as a result, he bewilders himself and others.
So.
People who hear these things may believe them. That's their problem. In Europe, those who are known as pantheists also hold this view. Among them, a learned person named Spinoza attained the pinnacle of this belief. Theosophist. The theosophist doctrine being propagated in America and other places is also advaitavat. Individuals who are proud of their scholarship endorse this view. And those lacking discerning power readily approve. So pantheism and theosophists, they are basically mayavas Advaita vat, advaitavad.
Sounded all very intelligent.
So some people, those who are very intelligent, they endorse this view.
Others.
Can'T really figure out what's others.
They can't really figure out what's happening. They endorse this also without thinking they approve they readily approve of it.
There's the verses of ring, personality and all that.
So what's a good match they miss they miss the supreme personality of Godhead. They think this the absolute truth is impersonal. Dattatreya, Ashtavakra and Shankara in our country, those who proudly consider themselves as scholars and are argumentative like Dattatriya, Ashtavakra and Shankara have periodically expanded this view in various forms. Nowadays, except for the Vaishnava doctrine, all other doctrines are followers of this view. In the Brahmana society this view is often prevalent. This the reason for its widespread acceptance is that all erroneous doctrines in the world when subordinated to advaitawat do not face destruction. Any individual or community that worships an animal as God also receives support from Advaitavad. Advaita Vaad states that even by focusing on animal on an animal as God one can achieve mental purity and stability and ultimately the practitioner can elevate their mind from that object and dedicate it to Advaita principle. Thus everyone gradually worships the Advaita doctrine as the ultimate goal without investigating the merits and demerits of the fundamental principle. Those whose lives are devoted to pure devotion practice the simple religion of devotion after renouncing Advaita Vaat upon careful consideration.
Bhakti how to renounce how they are died of what?
So those who are dedicated to Bhakti they totally renounce the Advaita Vat.
They have to carefully consider these things and stick to the.
They have to carefully consider their things and stick to devotional service. Note From Srimad Bhagavatam 1012106 Lord Shiva replied, surely the saintly Brahmana does not desire any benediction, not even liberation itself, for he has attained pure devotional service unto the inexhaustible personality of Godhead. Canto 3, verse 25 chapter 25 verse 34 a pure devotee who's attached to the activities of devotional service, who always engages in the service of my lotus feet, never desires to become one with me. Such a devotee who is unflinchingly engaged always glorifies my pastimes and activities. A pure devotee does not accept any kind of liberation Salokya, Shasti, samipya, sa, rupya, and ekatva, even though they are offered by the supreme personality of Godhead. By attaining the highest platform of devotional service, as I have explained, one can overcome the influence of the three modes of material nature and be situated in the transcendental state as is the Lord. Because my devotees possess saintly behavior, deep intelligence, they completely dedicate themselves to me and do not desire anything besides me. Indeed, even if I offer them liberation from birth and death, they do not accept it.
The Lord is served Lord Krishna.
So the devotees, they want to serve.
Lord Krishna have any kind of liberation.
And any kind of liberation, if it doesn't include service to Krishna, they do not want it. So all these quotes are from Srimad Bhagavata.
Always.
The devotees are unflinchingly engaged. They all. They always glorify the Lord's pastimes and activities. The devotees thinks that activities of Krishna are transcendental.
My Lord is Lords are his.
But the Mayavadis think that the Lord's activities are a type of illusion. Such desires attained by the highest platform of devotional service.
So we have heard already in previous.
Things. You have already heard in previous things or.
Able to hand his hand.
So as we heard previously, by getting to the platform of Baba Bhakti or Prema Bhakti, one overcomes the three modes of material nature and is always blissful. Even if Krishna offers us a benediction to liberate one from repeated birth and death, the devotee doesn't accept it.
The Lord wants to serve.
Because the devotees want to serve Lord Krishna.
Behind us.
So Radharani, if we can serve her, she can guide us in transcendental devotional service.
Guru Maharaj, it's a long one.
Long one for advice.
Tomorrow. So please bless all of them who are leaving Mayapur. Are the devotees leaving Mayapur tomorrow? Who are the devotees leaving Mayapur tomorrow? Okay, please stand up. Come forward. Come forward. Come forward.
Okay.
Yeah. The devotees from Australia we met that day. They are leaving Mayapur tomorrow. So please bless them. There's a devotee from Gurgaon. He's also leaving Mayapur tomorrow. Please bless him as well. Krishner Matirastu, may you remain Krishna conscious. And Mataji is also leaving Mayapur tomorrow. Are you leaving Mayapur tomorrow? Yes, they are also leaving Mayapur tomorrow.
Why.
Don'T leave?
Why? Okay.
Also your dear spiritual daughter Sarva Shakti Mataji is here.
I saw her.
I saw her.
On birthday.
Bhakta Srijit Prabhu's birthday today.
Where is he? Is she here? Where is she?
Okay.
Anyway, blessings to her. Okay. Thank you all of you for coming.
For this evening's lecture. Okay.
Guruma is blessing everybody.
Let's bless everybody by chanting the Hare.
Krishna Maha Mantra in Spanish.
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Hare Hare.
Hare. Let's chant one More in Chinese.
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare.
Last un found there is a small key With a small doll two keys are there. Somebody have missed it so kindly collect it from Jalangi Mataji. Here she is showing it. Whose key is that? Please come and collect the key. So dear fortunate devotees, those who physically present here for you especially Guru Maharaj has established physical book table to the left of you near the gate. So before going you can visit that table and see in what way you can serve Guru Maharaj by sponsoring Maha Big books and small books. Welcome to Guru Mahraj virtual book table. On 9 January 1976 Srila Prabhupada wrote to Utushta Krishna. Your home to home preaching is very good. The important thing is to make arrangements that they hear and chant that will make your preaching successful. Once they begin chanting then automatically they will want to follow the rules and regulations. Attend Aarati and take Prasadam Jaisala Prabhupada. So today from physical book table we have Amrit Gaurangadas 14 Bhagavad Gita and we have our Nithya Sevites, Balachandra Chenna, Vinita Gandharvika, Devidasiya and Bala Vrinda for small book. Today being the 4th of December Balavrindas Chenna's birthday so specially 10 Bhagavad Gita on her 10th birthday is being given today when we pray for Guru Maharaj at that time we also pray for Balavrindha Chennai. Then we have our Nithya Savites, Domini Mataji and her family one Bhagavad Gita and 10 small books. A special 1:10 ratio as Guru Maharaj requires it to fulfill the desire of Srila Prabhupada as a monthly contribution to distribute 10,000 Mahabik books and 100,000 small books. It's a monthly contribution for Guru Maharaj and Domini Matajan families taking it as a daily contribution. And consistently every single day she is giving one Bhagavad Girant and small book. Thank you very much Domini Mataju and family for being an exemplary example and a role model for every one of us. Wang Lang you1 Bhagavad Gita Lakshmi Ishwari Devidasi's mother Lee Shu sang one Bhagavad Gita s transcendental book distribution gi so this devotees also getting a special Narasima Puja in a few hours from now in Sridhar Mayapur and all of you devotees also please bless them by calling out Nita Ranga with me ng and please pass on this wonderful opportunity of participating in Srila Guru Maharaj's pastime and distributing Srila Prabhupada books. Even if it's a single Bhagavad Gita and 10 small books, please do WhatsApp anytime to Guru Mura's virtual book table WhatsApp at + 919-434-760402 and stay tuned for tomorrow's Rakshaitanya class. Let's have an intense prayer for Guru Mura's speedy recovery and full recovery. And of course our prayers include for all those who are celebrating their anniversaries today for their well being and blissful Krishna consciousness. So please join me in the prayers. Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare. Thank you very much.
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