20241209 - Third Stream — Jñāna-vicāra part 5

Yadavaya Namah Sudhanam.

Hare Krishna. Dear devotees, today we will continue with the reading from Sri Chaitanya Shikshamrita Vashila Sachidananda Bhakti Vinod Thakur. Undifferentiated concept disliking the material world but not being able to properly realize the higher realm. People in such a state of mind imagine an existence without varieties Nirvi Sesha without deep contemplation. They conclude that the higher realm is defined by the collective absence of opposing qualities of material world. The material world possesses form, changes, qualities, varieties, shadows, actions. And we believe that the opposite qualities of this, namely formlessness, changelessness without quality, without variegatedness, without shadow, non action and non duality combined together manifest the higher realm. Consider this and see. Such a conclusion is solely derived from logic. Logic is born from matter. Rigorously, rigorously processed logic imagines a concept opposite to its subject. Therefore its conclusion is a product of imagination. This is not that which is obtained through spiritual discussion and deliberation. Well, let logic define the characteristics of a substance and what is not a substance. If logic is unbiased and free from prejudice, it will say that the characteristic of that which is not a substance is non existence, that is which is not. The characteristic of a substance is existence, that is that which exists. If the desirable higher realm is imagined to be non substance, then then all conclusions and efforts related to it are false. If it is a substance, then it will not be devoid of the characteristics of the substance.

Higher law is. And first how.

So? The Mayavadis they come to an impersonal conclusion. Since the material world has all these qualities, forms, etc. Logically, the spiritual world should be devoid of all qualities. And its logic is it is created. Their logic is it is created from matter. One says.

The opposite.

So one sees the spiritual realm as the opposite. The opposite of the material world, but.

So well as a holy spiritual.

But the material world is a perverted reflection of the spiritual world.

So honestly, because the spiritual nature has holiness.

Holy because the spiritual nature has qualities. Therefore the material nature also has qualities. Characteristics of an object. What are the characteristics of a substance? A mere substance has one existence astitva two distinction Vishesha, three activity kriya and four Necessity Prayojana. If there is no existence, then non existent will come and cause the substance to disappear. If there is no distinction, Vishesha, then that substance does not have a separate entity as a substance. If there is no activity, then due to lack of recognition it can be called an illusion. There is no necessity that acknowledging it is futile. The higher realm must be called a substance. Thus it has existence, distinction, activity and necessity. Who says that the characteristics opposite to the material world define this substance? If you wish to say so, then I would call your conclusion is obtained as a borrowed one. If you use pure logic, then you should only say that the higher realm is faultless and distinctly different from the material world. If you say it to be the opposite of the material, an immature conclusion will come and attack you. There is no evidence of the existence of an opposite entity accepting such a substance. Existence of an opposite entity is akin to conclusions drawn under the influence of intoxication. There is no fault in perceiving the higher distinct world through characteristics devoid of material inferiority. Specifically, a machine in the form of logic cannot reveal any entity beyond the material. However, by exercising the self realization function which is characteristic of the pure knowledge inherent in the spiritual consciousness of the living entity, one can perceive existence, astitva, distinction, vishesha and activity. Sorry, activity, kriya and necessity in the higher realm. To some extent, some extent, to some extent spiritual existence is not accepted. If one says that in spiritual substance there is no existence, astitva, distinction, vishesha, activity, kriya and necessity. Prayojana. Logical thinkers can easily understand these matters if they approach this subject without superstition. So here Shlabakti Vena Thakur is explaining the qualities of a substance. In the spiritual world there are also substances and they have these four qualities.

One.

Has.

Had. The substance has no existence.

If he says that, if one says the substance has no existence.

Source has.

Then the substance will disappear. Oh.

Disappears.

So he says. If the substance doesn't have any qualities, then it disappears. So.

Spiritual is a substance.

The spiritual world is a stuffed substance which is transcendental. Note a quote From Srimad Bhagavatam 1.5.20 and 13. The Supreme Lord, personality of Godhead is himself is the cosmos, and still he is aloof from it. From him only this cosmic manifestation emanated in him it rests, and unto him it enters after annihilation. Your good self knows all about this. I have given only a synopsis. Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare.

Hare.

Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Hare.

The cosmos is made from supreme personality.

So the cosmos is made from the supreme personality of Godhead and also Lord. But also the Lord is aloof from it rests on him and goes into him after annihilation.

Source.

So Krishna is the source, the resting place.

Of the annihilation.

After annihilation it Enters into Ka. O Vyasudeva, your vision is completely perfect. Your good fame is spotless. You are firm in vow and situated in truthfulness. And thus you can think of the past times of the Lord in Trans. For the liberation of the people in general from all material bondage. We completed the chapter.

So Yazid, he sees everything with supreme Lord.

So Vyasadev, he sees everything in the supreme Lord.

He motivates on the Lord's transcendental activities.

He meditates on the Lord's transcendental activities. By presenting the activities of Ka, he gives people freedom from the material bondage. So Krishna's qualities, his activities are such that by hearing those activities one gets purified.

Does that help?

Yes. We have completed this chapter. We have completed this chapter. Yes. Yeah. It's a surprise. Suspense. Then it wouldn't be. Okay. All right. Gurumaj is blessing all of you. Okay. Would like to see the devotees. Hare Krishna. Guru Maharaj. Hare Krishna. Haribor. Hare Krishna. Dear Guru Maharaj, please accept my respectful obeisances. All glorious To Srila Prabhupada and a lotus feet. Thank you very much. Your servant, Rukmini Ramana Das from Colombia. Nice name. Rukmini Ramana. Jai Guru Maharaj. So, dear devotees. Yes, yes. Hare Krishna. Dear spiritual father, please accept my most respectful obeisances until lotus feet. Okay. Dear devotees, tomorrow the class would be at the pandal Gita mela pandal from 6:30 to 7:30 in Bengali in the evening. So I just saw Sujithendra Prabhu. Please, please come tomorrow. Hare Krishna. I just saw him. Yeah, okay. So yeah. So tomorrow the class will be at the pandal. So meet. Meet all of you. Your evening class. Sa. Yeah. It's working. It's working. Everything is not a joke. Relax. Assistant, you speak in Bengali, but in the pandal Gurumaj was speaking. Please accept my humble respectful obeisances until lotus feet. Your spiritual daughter, Ananda Vishaka Devidasi. Nice name. Anuradha Achary. Hare Krishna. Guru Maharaj, please accept my humble obeisances. Okay. Bhakti Priya Rai. Devidasi. My dearest Gurudev, please accept my most respectful obeisances at your divine lotus feet. That's from YouTube. Oh, sorry. Heart. Okay. Akash Devnath. Okay. Anuradha Achary. Hare Krishna. Beloved Guru Maharaj, please accept my respectful obeisances onto your divine lotus feet. Pranams and flowers. Two pranams. Pranams. And it's also like a dandavad Pranam and flowers. Guru Maharaj Hare Krishna, our dearest spiritual father. Jai Gurudev. Jai Guru Maharaj. Offering flowers and pranams. And again, flowers. Hare Krishna. Guru Maharaj. Okay. Flower. Flower. Flower. Flower. Flower. Flower. Pronouns, Pronouns. Pronouns, Pronouns. Bangladesh. Flower. Flower. Flower, Flower. Yeah. Kotikoti flowers and Kotikoti pranams. Hare Krishna. Guru Maharaj. Four pranams, five pranams and five flowers. Okay. Guru, I think it's time for dinner right now. It's 8:30, so we can leave now. All right, all right. Oh, there's one. Shanta, there's a shelter candidate. Okay, okay. Two of them. Yeah. Okay, two of them. Please repeat the mantra after me. Not all of you, just the two of them. Okay. Nama Om Vishnu Padaya Krishna Prashtaya Bhutal Shimate Bhaktivedanta Swaminithinamine Namaste Saraswati Dev Goravani Pracharine Nirvishesha Sunyavadi Paschate. Nama Om Vishnupadaya Krishna Preshta Bhutali, Shrimatejayapataka Swami Nithinamin. Okay. Anyway, flowers already there so we can move quick. Okay. Okay. Let's say Hare Krishna in Chinese and all other languages. Hare Krishna. Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna. Okay. Yeah. They have done all those things. Okay. Okay. Now they'll get blessings from.

Srila Guru Maharaj Ki. Dear devotees, those who are physically present here, there is a special personal physical table of Guru Maharaj to left of you near the gate. Okay. You see how fortunate you are. There is nobody in the universe for whom this table is put. Only for those who are physically present here. So please do visit and see in what way you can serve Guru Maharaj by sponsoring a single Bhagavad Gita or buying or selling Bhagavad Gita in that physical book table. Welcome to Guru Mahraj virtual book table. Today we have Jeevananda Balram das from Mumbai, 2 bhagavad gita Neelambari Padma Devidasi from Mumbai, 5 bhagavad gita Ajay Kunti from Mithnapur, 11 bhagavad gita Venkatadari Chaitanya Das from Hyderabad, 12 bhagavad gita Shakuntala B from Mangalore, 12 bhagavad Gita. Jagat Pavani Satya Devidasi from Gujarat, 2 bhagavad Gita Madhu Hasini Harini Devidasi from Madhya Pradesh, 30 bhagavad Gita Chandan Patak. Chandan Chandana Patak from Kolkata 2 bhagavad Gite Abai Bishwambar Das from Mumbai 10 bhagavad Gita Manish Chadwani Chandwani from Mumbai 11 bhagavad Gita SATA Prakash Pandey from Mumbai 5 bhagavad Gita Janeshwar Gaurangadas from USA 15 bhagavad Gita Namita Girl from Giri from Midnapur 11 bhagavad Git Ranjan from Tamil Nadu 8 bhagavad Gita Raju Haldar from Kolkata 8 bhagavad GitA Mutareshwari Moini Devidasi from Myput Gita deepali Das from Kalyani 8 Bhagavad Gita Kula Shaker Gauradas from Singapore 21 Bhagavad Gita Ruma Mandal from Jalpaiguri 1 Bhagavad Gita Krishna from Bangalore 16 Bhagavad Gita Apurva Anand from Singapore 4 Bhagavad Gita Hareshwari Madhavi Devidasi from Bangalore 21 Bhagavad Gita from Midnapur 4 Bhagavad Gita Guha from Kolkata 1 Bhagavad Gita Paradaman from Chennai to Bhagavad Gita should be Parandaman Raghukula prandas from Assam 3 Bhagavad Gita ragas from Andhra Pradesh 302 Bhagavad Gita Haribol from Balram Desh 8 Bhagavad Gita Today we have our Nithya Savage 4 small book I'm from Kauk Deshriya Dhamini Mataji and our family one Bhagavad Gita and 10 small books a perfect one is to 10 ratio. This is exactly what spells Srila Prabhupada's instruction to Guru Maharaj in this regard. It's a monthly commitment commitment for Guru Maharaj and here Domini Mataji and family is giving a daily commitment. Thank you very much Dominique Matajan family for being a wonderful exemplary example and a role model for all of us. Wang Lan Yu 1 Bhagavad Gita Soon Chain 70 Bhagavad Gita and 36 small books Haribo Zhang Hu 10 Bhagavad Gita Zhang Sonyan 10 Bhagavad Gita Radhika Radha Devidasi 10 Bhagavad Gita thank you very much. Srila Prabhupada Transcendental book distribution. All these devotees are getting a special Narasima Puja in a few hours from now in Siddham Mayapur. Last one found. Somebody has lost their pile it seems. Ankle belt. Anklet. So please find it here near the gate.

Okay.

Near Sri versus where he's sitting. Also this devotees get a special Narasimha Puja in a few hours from now in Siddha Mayapur. This wonderful opportunity distributing Silhouette Prabhupada books even with a single Bhagavad Gidan 10 small books. Please do WhatsApp anytime 24 hours both day and night at + 919-434-760402 and stay tuned for tomorrow's class. Maybe in the pandal and let's do so. Let's all pray intensely for Guru Mahra's PD and full recovery. And of course our prayers include for all those who are celebrating their anniversaries today for their well being and blissful Christian consciousness.

Prayers.

Please join me in the prayers. Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare. Thank you very much. Now let's hear some sweet words from His Holiness Bhakti Vijay Bhagavas. Swami Maharaj has come here to address all of us.

So Gita Jayanti festival started from seventh. So we are inviting all of you please take part. Especially on 11th we will have Gita Parayan, Gita Jagnya and Gita Dan and Akadasi Prasad and Gita Sabhajatra. So many things you have to take part inviting you. Please go early, come and take part and enjoy Gita Jayanti festival in Mayapur 2024. So please please. We are asking your blessings and Asirwat and that is the day you can take part the Gita Dhanam that Gita Dhanam Gita Dhanam can be distributed in Kumbhala. Kumbhala. So we are inviting you also come to Kumbh Mela. If you are not there, your Gita can be there in Kumbh Mela Hariba. So please come and take part. This is the blessings of his real Nana Jayapatya Sam Guru Maharaj. He personally took this opportunity to take part all the sadhus they can receive the Prabhupada books arrival.