20241212 - The soul is spiritual having atomic consciousness.

This is a recorded Guru-discussion (Dec 2024) led by Jaya Pataka Swami and Guru Maharaj explaining that the individual soul (jiva) is a spiritual, atomic part of Krishna’s consciousness (Sat-Chitananda), temporarily covered by subtle and gross bodies due to ignorance (false ego, mind, intelligence). The talk contrasts the soul’s eternal spiritual body (Vaikuntha/relationships with Krishna) with material birth conditions and illustrates how attachment determines future bodies. The recording concludes with devotional instructions (read Srila Prabhupada’s books), a substantial book-distribution donor list, logistical notes (WhatsApp number), and a prayer request for Guru Maharaj’s dialysis the next day.
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Swami Namini Prachari.
Saitana.
Krishna Krishna Hare Hare so we're continuing in the Chaitanya Sikh Shamruta. The topic is the soul is spiritual, having atomic consciousness. Individuals devoted to the knowledge of Brahman conclude that the soul is by nature Brahman. Their view is that the soul is bound by ignorance and when the bondage of ignorance is removed, the soul will remain as Brahman. Due to these vague, incomplete and erroneous conclusions, those who adhere to these views cannot realize their true nature. By adopting pure knowledge, it becomes clear that the soul is not an eternal resident of this suffering world. The current body of the soul is also not its eternal body. The soul is spiritual. Bhagavan is infinite consciousness and the soul is his atomic consciousness. Bhagavan is like the sun and the soul is like a ray. Bhagavan is full of eternity, consciousness and bliss while the soul is a particle of that blissful consciousness.
If you missed something, sam it.
So.
We are the soul.
So we are the soul.
We are atomic particle of Krishna, an.
Atomic particle of Krishna.
Krishna is Sat Chitananda.
Krishna is Satchitananda, the atomic part. We are an atomic part, part of that Satchitananda.
So our eternal home is a spiritual world.
We are eternal come from spiritual world.
But we are now in the material world.
But we are now in the material world.
This is not our natural.
This is not our natural place.
We are reduced to 1 10,000.
We are reduced to 1 10,000 times of the tip of the air.
Hot in the world.
We.
Are the body.
But in the spiritual world we are the body.
In our real world, the soul and the health or temporary body.
In the material world, we are soul. We have a temporary body.
Soul. Since you are Father Krishna.
Since we are part of Krishna.
We.
Have 50 qualities that Krishna has.
So we have 50 qualities that krishna has.
He has 64 qualities.
But he has 64 qualities.
Another day same as Krishna.
So we can never be same as Krishna.
Always his atomic particle.
We are always his atomic particle.
Hare Krishna the spiritual body is concealed under two coverings. The material world and matter are not as close to Bhagavan because they exhibit the opposite of pure consciousness. However, because of being partial spiritual entity, the soul has an intimate relationship with Bhagavan. Just as Bhagavan has his own personal form, the soul also has a spiritual body eternally. The spiritual body is manifest in the Vaikuntha realm. In the material world, being bound, it is hidden under two coverings. So the two coverings are the gross body and the subtle body. This would be here explained later.
So Krishna is the controller of all his energies.
So Krishna is the controller of all his energies.
Krishna restricted by any of his energies.
Krishna is not covered or restricted by any of his energies. We are Jivas. We are in atomic size, so we.
Can be covered by Mahamaya.
So we can be covered by the Mahamaya or Yoga Maya or by Yoga Maya. So in the Vaikun tower we are under the Yoga Maya. In the material world we are under the Mahamaya.
We have an eternal relationship with Krishna.
We have an eternal relationship with Krishna.
Depending on what our religion is.
Body.
On different types of activities.
So depending on what kind relationship is, we have different types of bodies and different types of activities. Subtle Covering the first covering is called the subtle covering as mentioned in RMAD Bhagavatam 7.2.47. As long as the spirit soul is covered by the subtle body consisting the mind, intelligence, false ego, he is bound to the results of his primitive activities. Because of this covering, the spirit soul is connected with material energy and must accordingly suffer material conditions and reversals continually. Life after life False ego, mind and intelligence are specific principles of the subtle world. Compared to the gross matter, the subtle world is finer and so the subtle covering is also fine. The Atma Buddhi, the concept of self in the gross world and the conception of gross relationship is called false ego. The self identity that the soul had in its spiritual body before associating with matter is rightful and natural. However, the self identity that arises in material objects due to material association is artificial designation and unjust. As mentioned in Srimad Bhagavatam 7.2.48 the translation it is fruitless to see and talk of the material modes of nature and their resultant so called happiness and distress as if they were factual. When the mind wanders during the day and a man begins to think himself extremely important, or when he dreams at night or sees beautiful women enjoying with him, these are merely false dreams. Similarly, the happiness and distress caused by the material senses should be understood to be meaningless. Would you like to say anything, Guru Maharaj.
As well as heart? I was talking about salt barrier, so.
I thought we might finish. Okay, let me continue reading. Then.
The subtle body and there is suddenly the first covering of the soul.
So the subtle body is said to be the first covering of the soul.
And we know gross body in the context of the this planet.
So through the gross body we have the contact of this planet.
We have a subtle body which can exist in any situation, but we have.
A subtle body which can exist in any situation.
A subtle body is not subject to.
Destruction the subtle body is not subject.
To destruction any of the planets.
In any of the planets.
So we have a particular ecology so.
We have a particular ecology in other planets.
Ecology.
But in the other planets they may have. They may have a different kind of ecology.
And sino vedas, it's as every part of the universe is inhabited, so the.
Vedas it said every part of the universe it's being inhabited. But the modern scientists are looking for the same ecology.
So I see any planet there's no water.
So when they see in any any ecology, they might see water and they might think, oh, it might be suitable for life. But.
I don't understand.
That.
Soul and soul body can live in various ecological.
So but they don't understand that the soul and the subtle body can be in any various ecological situations. So there can be life in any variety of situation.
Not in the spiritual world, any relationship with Nanashmi, Rayan or Adan, Krishna.
So in the spiritual world, depending on our relationship with Lakshmi, Narayan or Radha and Krishna or any of the expansions.
Of Krishna, we have a particular eternal body.
We have a particular eternal body.
And that body is real, natural, eternal.
That body is real, natural, eternal.
Body.
So but the body which we have right now is just a covering that has been given to us.
A man attached to his wife.
A man is very attached to his wife. He may take next birth as a woman. So if a woman is attached to a husband, she may take birth as a male.
Someone is very attached.
If someone is very attached to their pet, they might take birth as an animal.
First coloring the material world is unnatural tendency.
So this body we have in this material world is unnatural and it's not our real self.
So we have an eternal natural relationship with Krishna.
So we have an eternal natural relationship with Krishna.
And.
When we achieve that, we don't have to change.
When we achieve that, we don't have to change. Krishna. Oh, this should be translated. Okay, let's translate it in all the languages in this planet, upper planet, lower planet, Hare Krishna, It's a special language. Guru Mas has all the words.
It has all the words from all the languages.
Okay. And another name for this is ignorance. This ego is the binding threat between matter and the living entity. When the living entity becomes absorbed in matter, then this ego becomes gross and transforms into consciousness. When it operates through judgment in matter, then it is slightly expressed as intelligence. Later, when it perceives the matter directly through senses, it is called the Mind, when it operates through judgment in matter, then it is slightly expressed as intelligence. Intelligence. Later, when it perceives the matter directly through senses, it is called the mind. The principle that extends from ego to mind is neither pure consciousness or the soul nor gross matter. Therefore, in this connection it is called linga, Subtle body. Since in the pure state of the soul, the spiritual body, its spiritual activities and spiritual practices are slightly observed in the subtle body, this intermediary principle is called the linga. When the sense of I amitva or mind that existed in the spiritual body of the soul became extremely obstructed due to the association with matter and manifested in the subtle body, the identification related to the spiritual body nearly disappeared and became forgetful. Currently, when the sense of self arises in the subtle body, it is imposed on the material body to which it has relation. The identification of the living entity in the spiritual body as a servant of Ka transforms and manifests as the ego of a servant of the material sense objects. This condition gradually leads to the soul's bondage in illusion.
Material body There is an uncertain family.
So material body. It appears in a certain family, in certain society, a certain nationality. Certain nationality, a certain race.
So like this, on how different types of conditioning.
So like this, one has different types of conditioning.
So one thinks rational heritage and marginality.
One might think national heritage, nationality, all of them.
All the humans are all human.
Or they might think all the humans, we are all humans. But they forget their eternal relationship with Krishna. So in this way they are an illusion.
Traitor.
So someone becomes a traitor, takes the money or something. He takes the money or something to spy the foreign country.
Like this. The external world is completely in this.
The external world is completely in this bodily consciousness. They don't realize their own spiritual identity.
They're under the false eel's body, their.
False ego identifying with their gross body. So like my nephew, he was asking me what I think about my sister.
I don't in poor ashram had all these things.
I said in my poor ashram I had all these things.
Now I see her as potential to hear the Lord.
So now I see her. She has the potential to be a devotee.
I don't know how to see other way.
I don't know how to see other way. What here in the other way?
No, what I think.
But they know. But they know what they think.
I think I'm a brother.
But they think that I'm a brother. I'm their uncle or something.
We don't understand their actual eternal identity.
But they don't Understand their actual eternal identity. I have to adapt to how they see me.
This material world, everybody is not types of illusions.
So in this material world everybody is in these different types of illusion.
Get out of it.
So it's very difficult to get out of it.
That's why we need to read Prabhupada books.
So that's why we need to read Srila Prabhupada's books.
As source of knowledge, start to understand our actual position.
Because by spiritual knowledge we can try. We can actually we can start to understand our actual position.
Various steps. All illusion I think of the world is a particular nationality, a particular race.
So otherwise in various steps of this illusion we might take we belong to a particular nationality of particular race or something like that.
Stop.
Some of us in us in our family consciousness, that may give us some ability to propagate Krishna consciousness.
If someone see us in a family consciousness, that may give us a particular ability to propagate Ka consciousness. Yes. So we'll read about the grass covering tomorrow.
Okay. Who eat all these lados?
Yeah, he's a Ladu eater. That's right.
Indians were Chinese.
For everyone. Yeah. Everyone is here. Yeah. The leftover will give it to Jai Gora Chan. He has a sweet soul, so I'll give it to him.
Guru Maharaj is blessing everybody, those who are assembled here as well as online Krishna Muthirastu Rebo.
The gross covering. So tomorrow we'll talk about the gross covering.
Guru Maharaj Ki. Dear devotees, for those who are physically present here, there is to your left, there is a physical book table near the gate probably.
Is there?
Yeah.
So that's Guru Maharaj's personal physical book table. And it's applicable only for special souls, those who are present physically here on this transcendental rooftop. Nobody else in the universe has this opportunity. So please do visit the table before you leave and see in what way you can serve Guru Maharaj in distributing Srila Prabhupada books by sponsoring a single Bhagavad Gita or a small book. Dear fortunate devotees, welcome to Guru Maharaj virtual book table. Today we have from Dr. Hari, Guru Gauravara Prabhu, we have Padmavati Udecha and Prema shwari Padmavati Devidasi 4 Bhagavad Gita from Guru Maharaj physical book table donations. We have Sunil Burman, Ram Burman, Sebika Barman, Devi Burman, Mani Gopal Das, Rangini Champagal Atha Devidasi Rashamurthy Radha Devidasi, Mohan Lal Shah Kashyap Sorry Sekhar Kumar Aloman sorry Mohola Sahade and Devansh day all each 1 Bhagavad Gita Then we have Narayan Chandra Roy 5 Bhagavad Gita Raghunath Prasad Das 2 Bhagavad Gita and small books Tapas Chandra Biswas 6 Bhagavad Gita Radha Kanta Chuddas 11 Bhagavad Gita Taptahemo Das 5 Bhagavad Gita Swapan Das 5 Bhagavad GitA Monisha Dev Sharma 1 Bhagavad Gita Soy Kad Adhikari 1 Bhagavad Gita Palak Saha 1 Bhagavad Gita Suman Chandra Devanath 1 Bhagavad Gita Liton Kundu 1 Bhagavad Gita Durjay Chaudhary 1 Bhagavad Gita Jagat Pabini Yashomati Devidasi 1 Bhagavad Gita Damayandi Sudaksha Devidasi 2 Bhagavad Gita Jagatu Bhavani Shomati 1 Bhagavad Gita Utsahi Mai Janabi Devidasi 24 Bhagavad Gita from J&Mayapur headed by Pancha Janya Prabhu we have Jui Roy Ria of Dinajpur 1 Bhagavad Gita Haridashni Roy of Dinaspur 1 Bhagavad Gita Saroti Biswas of Dinaspur 1 BhagaVad Gita Rabindranath Sarkar Maloti Sarkar of Murshidabad, West Bengal 1 Bhagavad Gita Shalafi Roy of Dinajpur 1 BhagavaD Gita Ashrushil of Chattagram 3 Bhagavad Gitas Ganasyam Biswas Mak of Netho Kona, Bangladesh 2 Bhagavad Gita Sahadur Dev Sharma of Dinajpur 1 BhagaVad gita Sudarshan Chandra Rai, Dinajpur 1 BhagavAd Gita Monica Rai, Dinajpur 1 BhagaVad Gita Niranjan Roy, Dinajpur 1 BhagavaVad Gita Pratim Kundu 1 Bhagavad Gita Snigdar Shikdar 1 Bhagavad Gita of Kamila 3 Bhagavad Gitas Ananda Devnath of Oman 1 Bhagavad Gita Iron Devnath of Oman on Bhagavad Gita Ankita Devnath of Oman on Bhagavad Gita Devnath Gita Pad Nepal Chandra Roy of Dinaspuran Bhagavad Gita Ronnie Krishnadas of Dhaka Anuprai of Chattagram Hari Pado Mandal of kulu and Kulna 1 Bhagavad Gita Gautam Das of Silhouette 3 Bhagavad Gitas of Silhouette 1 Bhagavad Gita gautam Mahanta of Rangapur, Bangladesh 1 Bhagavad Gita Lakshmi Rani Das of Chatagram 1 Bhagavad Gita Poppy Rai of 1 Bhagat Gita Arpit Gita of Daka 1 Bhagavad Gita Pushpar 1 Bhagavad Gita Malati Rani Abdinaspur 3 Bhagavad Gita Sri La Pra Transcendal Book Distribution There are more names that I'll be announcing tomorrow. All these devotees getting a special nursing Puja and a few olds now from now in Sridhar Mayapur and all of you devotees also please bless them by calling out Nitai Gauranga with me Nita and please pause on this wonderful opportunity of participating in the pastime of Guru Vira distributing Srila Prabhupada books. Even with a single bug of Grand 10 Small Books.
Is missing.
I can do tomorrow. No problem. Got it? Got it.
So from K. Dominique and her family, one Bhagavad Gita and 10 small book exactly one is to 10 ratio as how Guru Maharaj really wants it. Wang Lan, you want Bhagavad Gita and Toshan Krishna's two Bhagavad Gitas. So please pass on this wonderful opportunity of participating in Guru Maharaj pastime in distributing Srila Prabhupada books even with a single bhagavad gita and 10 small books. Please do WhatsApp anytime at +919434760402. Stay tuned for tomorrow's Lord Chaitanya class and let's do intense prayers. Tomorrow Guru Maharaj is having dialysis so let's do an intense prayer. And of course our prayers include for all those who are celebrating their anniversaries today for their well being and blissful Christian consciousness. Please join me in the prayers. Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare thank you very much.
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