20250106- Fourth Stream — Rati (Bhāva)-vicāra

A January 2025 YouTube session (titled '20250106- Fourth Stream — Rati (Bhāva)-vicāra') featuring a Vaishnava discourse on Rati (bhava) — devotional ecstasy — emphasizing that devotional ecstasy arises from Krishna or Krishna's devotees and is nourished by associating with devotees; offenses toward devotees diminish bhakti. The talk contrasts devotional and impersonalist practices and recounts examples (e.g., Prabhupada's travels and expressions of ecstasy). The latter part contains community announcements: Guru Mahas receiving the Hindu Ratna Award 2025, results of a Bhu Mandala puzzle competition (women: 1:08:00; men: 1:08:29), and large-scale book-distribution goals (100,000 small books and 10,000 big books monthly) with specific donation tallies and virtual/physical book-table instructions.
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Ladies they finish the puzzle. The Challenge in the man 1 hour 8 minutes.
Sara Sam.
Harim.
Pinatarinam.
So we continue reading the sich. We're in the fifth shower. Considerations of Baba Bhakti 4th stream Rati Baba Uchara Note we have discussed a lot about knowledge here. Ina will say whatever else is to be said about Baba Bhakti devotional service in ecstasy, whether it arises from Saga Navti devotional practice or from the mercy of Krishna or his devotees. And it cannot be nourished without association of Krishna's devotees.
Note it.
One can be a Sadhana city of the system of practice. One can have a special Kripa Sri.
By the mercy of Lord Krishna's devotees.
Like we say historically, the mother give his mercy for static love to many people. And you see how Prabhupada traveled around the world 12 times, 14 times. And just by seeing him people became filled with bliss and spiritual ecstasy. Note, of all the forms of worship worship the Lord Vishnu is the highest. However, above even the worship of Lord Vishnu is rendering service to Avaishnav who are related to Lord Vishnu. Okay, so this was asked by Parvati to Lord Shiva.
Which of the worship is the best?
Which of the worship is the best? Because you know, there are different. There are so many different kinds of worship. The worship of Lord Vishnu is the best, but with the exception that if you worship the devotees that are connected to Vishnu, that's even higher. Note. By selling the feet of the spiritual master, one is able to develop transcendental ecstasy in the service of the personality of Godhead who is unchangeable enemy of the muddy demon and whose service vanquish one's material distress. Srimadbatan3719 There is another verse. Almost all the angas of Bhakti in relation to the Lord that were described so far are also the angas of serving the devotees of the Lord. This is the conclusion of the wise Bhakti Rasamrita Sindhu 12219 if offenses toward Krishna's Bhakta's almost all the angas of Bhakti in relation to the Lord that were described so far are also the angas of serving the devotees of the Lord. This is the conclusion of the wise bhakti asamritas in Luke 1:2-19. So the service to the spiritual master who is in relation to Krishna, one is able to develop transcendental ecstasy. So it can be one consult Krishna. One can be serving the devotee of Krishna. If offenses towards Krishna bhakta Arise. Then this invaluable well of Rati Baba gradually diminish and eventually disappears or becomes of lower quality. This is indeed very unfortunate. Therefore, associating the devotees with affection and being careful not to commit any offense against them is absolutely essential for both Sadhana bhaktas and those who have attained Bhagava like this. During the stage of Sagana, this removes Anartas. And in the stage of Baba it definitely nourish the bhakti. So this section is about offenses. So when Prabhupada went to the west, we became very enthusiastic.
Because since there are non devotees.
Because since there were no devotees, nobody has committed any Vaishnava. But now there are many devotees.
We have to be very careful how to commit.
Offense not to commit any rationale. Offense. There is no rationale. It's easy. Oh, this one is wearing two different socks. Okay, that's stupid. Offenses. So one has to avoid these offenses. Because there are offenses once bhakti diminishes or becomes of low quality, lower quality. So one may have babalakti. Okay. In certain situations there is doubt that the Rati Baba that has been described as a priceless treasure can be observed even in individuals other than devotees. So in certain situations this Ratibava that has been described as priceless can be even seen observed even in individuals other than devotees. I, Bhakti Vinayatakur, have taken up this subject for the sake of the realization of Purvati by devotees. I will not speak out of hatred of any other sampradaya or individuals methods of worship. However, for the sake of the devotees questions and to strengthen their devotion, if any statements are unintentionally against the practice of others and Pragaya, I ask for forgiveness. By believing entities fortune, one radially is attracted to pure devotion. It is impossible to impart rati to others merely through writing a book. Since this book is composed for those who have faith in pure devotion. If members of others and prioras read it incidentally, it is not our fault. If by fortune they align with us, it is entirely auspicious. If not aligned, then please hand this book to someone else. And do not be displeased with us. This is our humble request.
Someone takes offense.
Say, someone takes offense by his book. So he is requesting to give the book to someone else. He doesn't want to criticize any other sampradaya. He told us to try to hide any Baba or rati symptoms.
Because.
Try to. Because some other sampradayas, they try to awaken these bubbles and show them off like if they are great devotees. So to avoid these artificial bubbles. So we try to keep them private.
Sometimes a lot. Most of the time you are internalized his disease.
Actually sometimes most of the time Prabhupada will internalize these ecstasies. But sometimes he couldn't control them. And he was describing how Siddhanta Goswami met Lord Chaitanya. And he was describing how the GOP is meeting with Krishna and he start crying. Then he ended the class here in Mayapur, I think.
Holidays.
And.
He also hold down and he.
Also broke down there. Apparently there was a time.
He has.
Involuntarily he has expressed some ecstasy. As a result he went off the class. He left the class. So our general policy is not to show ecstasy. There are some Sampras who trying to show off ecstasy. They want to be recognized according to the philosophy of the impersonalists. Brahman is without qualities. Nirguna. They believe that Brahman cannot be directly worshipped with any form or attributes. Living entities being Saguna with qualities have no other resource but to worship with attributes. Therefore, at first living entities worship imagined forms of the supreme in the Saguna aspect. And as their intelligence becomes steadier, they seek knowledge and detachment towards the Nirguna Brahman. In the book Aparoksh Sanguti, one of the principal acharyas of the impersonalist school Sri Sankaraswamy has specified that Dodenine practice of Bairagya detachment, Viveka, discrimination, sama, control of mind, Dhamma, control of senses, Uttarati withdrawal, titiksha, tolerance, Shraddha faith, Samadhana concentration and mumukshuta desire for liberation, one should gain the knowledge of duty. He has stated that if the after mentioned practices are done properly through the process of following one's Varnash and Dharma, duties of one's social order, Tapasya, austerities and Harit Hashanah, peace in the Lord then one can become fit for the SAI 9 practices. The worship of any the worship of any Saguna deity is referred to as Haritoshana. According to the data bodies Prakriti, nature, Surya, the Sun, Ganesh, Shiva and Vishnu are the five types of Saguna deities. Chapter 3 it is mentioned then the demigods inquired about the truths and spread various arguments. The learned sages knowing different scriptures debated among themselves with reason and ornaments of arguments. Some declare Haridishnu as the supreme, others say Shiva and others yet order. Consider the Sun God Bhaskara or even time and nature. Each One expressed their views, some saying that time alone was the supreme force while others considered actions themselves. Thus the royal sage, overwhelmed by the multitude of conflicting opinions, became deeply troubled. He sighed heavily and became silent, full of doubts regarding the path of liberation.
Five minutes, three minutes. Higher planets.
So even in the higher planet the sessions and they have different opinions.
Also.
So these things are always well debated in this matter. Some devotees are by Schnaus. They worship Bishru. Some are Shivites worship Lord Shiva.
And.
Some others worship the Sun God, Time, nature. So many people they don't understand the position of Krishna. So Krishna says in the Bhagavad Gita that of thousands of thousands of people, only fewer missionaries. So you shall keep your status as the rotis. So that's the end for the class. We have some surprise. Are you all ready? Sabir. So as you may know or not, Guru Mahas is the vice president of the World Hindu Federation that was originated in Nepal. He's one of the vice president. He's the vice president for North America area We have he has been galler with the distinguished honor of the Radna Bhushan for Hindu Hebrew Radna Hindu Radna Award by the World Hindu Federation. So this was this distinguished and honorable person was gifted to a distinction was gifted to him in Delhi a few days ago. Devotees came from Delhi all the way to give it to him. So when I give a big to.
Guru Mahaj and offer the.
Because he was sick, Bhakti Peshata Maharaj accepted it in his behalf. I didn't see it yet Guru Mahasaya so it's the first time seeing it.
It.
Can you have some light? Okay.
And then it says Hindu Ratna Award 2025 Exceptional leadership, dedication and contribution to Hindu community. What is this? Notably his commitment to excellence and positive influence on Hindus make them a highly deserving candidate for his recognition. World Hindu Federation Conference 2025 GSAM Gupta Javeri Chief Patron India Dr. Ajay Singh International President World Hindu Federation Global Hindu Advocacy.
Hare Krishna I'm very fortunate to.
Receive this award along with Bhakti Purushatra Swami Maharaj in Delhi. And again my fortunate Maharaji told me please bring this award and deliver His Holiness Chata Daga Swami Maharaj. So please Maharaj bless me so that can serve my whole life in prepared.
Mission.
Hare Krishna his name is Japada Swami Maharaj Ki his name is Gopal Krishna Goswami.
Also last night Guru Maharaj announced about the Bhu Mandala puzzle competition. So today, according to his Instruction seven Matajis. They took part and they completed in assembling the puzzles within 1 hour 8 seconds.
So the boys.
The boys are 1 hour 8 minutes and 29 seconds.
Yes.
So the boys will be competing. They will be assembling the puzzles tomorrow.
And we have only five of them so far.
So we need two more to join.
Where is the leader?
Captain of the boys team? There is no captain. Okay.
All right.
So we'll announce the prize tomorrow for the winner. There will be a special prize for the winners tomorrow.
Who will win?
Come on boys. Thank you.
Hare Krishna Guruvaraj is blessing all the.
Assembled devotees here and online.
Krishna Krishna material.
Srila Prabhupada ordered me to distribute 100,000.
Small books and 10,000 big books.
I heard that this morning.
I heard that in the morning I.
Only distributed 34 books. In this way I won't be able to make up my goal.
There you go.
Dear devotees, welcome to Guru Virtual Book table.
So those who are physically present here for you. To your left of your side near the gate there is a physical book table. And this is Guru Maharaj personal physical book table. Meant for only those who are present on this transcendental rooftop. And nobody else even within Mypur has this opportunity to avail to serve Guru Maharaj. Participate in the pastime of Guru Maharaj.
In distributing Srila Prabhupada books.
So please do visit the table before you leave and see in what way you can serve Guru Maharaj by sponsoring one Bhagavad Gita or few Bhagavad Gita and few small books. Thank you very much. Dear devotees. Welcome to Guru Maharaj Virtual Book table. Today we have in Kumbunala Gaurangadas from UK, 13 Bhagavad Gita Reena Das from Mitnapur, 21 Bagar Gita Rakal Kumar Gope from Shyamdes 51 Bagore Gita Vaishali Chakladar from Mitnapur, 1 Bagore Gita Meera Mandal from Kolkata, 5 Bhagavad Gita Abinash Pal from Bhardwan 31 Bhagavad Gita Rinku Parmanik from Nadia, 4 Bhagavad Gita Shampita Das from Moshirabad, 2 Bhagavad Gita Pralai Deshmuk from Surat, 2 Bhagavad Gita Priyasaki Chitraleka Devidasi from Assam, 6 Bhagavad Gita Bhari Bhaski from Kolkata, 2 Bhagod Gita Mita Ghantai from Madnapur 1 Bhagavad Gita Dr. Sumeda Pandey from Punjab 2 Bhagavad Gita Tapas Das from Amraba 30 Bhagavad Gita Rajiv Pal from Uttar Hijrapur 1 Bhagavad gita 20 Bhagavad gita is one of the special offer by Guru Maharaj that one day one Gita in this way in a month you can offer 30 Bhagavad Gitas. So thank you Tapas Das. Then we have Sushmita Varman From Uttar Dinajpur 11 Bhagavad Gita Amarpal From Mithnapur 9 Bhagavad Gita Prem From Mayapur 4 From Canada 31 Bhagavad Gita Again 1 Bhagavad Gita A day for the whole month.
Now you can't hear.
What happens.
Then we have Sahishno Krishna Raj from Ahmedabad 108 Bhagavad Gita Leadership of Matureswari Mohini Javasi from Birbum we have mirgana Mahagopi Devidasi 9 Bhagavad Gita Vikash Das 7 Bhagavad Gita Shama Murlidas 1 Bhagavad Gita Uttavadas 1 Bhagavad Gita SA 1 Bhagavad Gita. From physical table of Nithya Madhavi we have Sham Mohandas 12 Bhagavad Gita Gopal Ghosh 2 Bhagavad Gita from Guru Maharaj physical book table by we have our Nites. Oh sorry, four small books from Kasadesh devotees we have the amini Matajander family, one Bhagavad Gita and 10 small books. So this is the one is to 10 ratio exactly as just now Guru Maharaj himself has announced that he is supposed to distribute 10,000 Mahabik books and 100,000 small books every month is a monthly contribution and here Dominique Mataj and the family is supporting this by using a 1:10 ratio as a daily contribution. Consistently also these devotees get a special Narasima Puja in a few hours from now in Sri Mayapur. All of you devotees also please bless them by calling out Nithai Goranja with me Nit and please pass on this wonderful opportunity of being participating in the pastime of Guru Maharaj this evening. Single Bhagavad Gita or 10 small books please do WhatsApp to see Guru Maharaj Virtual Book table anytime at + 919-434-760402. Stay tuned for tomorrow's Rakshaitanya class. And now let's do an intense prayer for Guru Mahra. Speedy recovery and full recovery. And of course our prayers include for all those who are celebrating their anniversaries today for their well being and blissful Krishna consciousness. Please join me in the prayers. Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare. Thank you very much.
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