20250107- Fourth Stream — Rati (Bhāva)-vicāra part2

Krishna Krishna Hare Hare.

Hare.

Langai Tegirim Dinatari.

Hare Krishna Dear devotees, today we will continue reading from Sri Chaitanya Shikshamrita of Srila Sachitananda Bhakti Vinod Thakur. The worship of these five deities is conducted separately through the five methods of worship as prescribed by the respective Tantras. Their conclusion is that by engaging in the worship of these deities one achieves the results of concentration of mind. This concentration through successive practice leads to detachment from worldly objects and engenders knowledge characterized by absorption in the impersonal Brahman. When this knowledge deepens, the realization I am Brahman arise. Upon deep consideration it is concluded that the Advaita Vadis impersonalists state that Brahman is the only reality and everything else is unreal. During the initial stages of Sadhana spiritual practice, they prescribe the worship of various deities who are also considered unreal. In the state of Nirvi Sesha formless realization, those deities do not exist. Therefore those deities are imaginary. According to this philosophy, the forms of Rama and Krishna are also imaginary. According to them, Kali, Prakriti, nature, Surya, the Sun, Ganesha, Shiva and Vishnu are imagined deities. The Ashtanga yogis and Panchopa Pancho Pasakas, the worshippers of five deities, follow this view and ultimately all of them become followers of Brahmavada philosophy of impersonal Brahman and seek liberation. Even though they know the worship deities to be false, imaginary, and still they worship them. The signs of rati that appear during their worship are what they call rathi. During those times they exhibit symptoms such as trembling, sweating, change of color, tears and horripulation, and they dance. All these are indeed symptoms of attachment, but they are not the kind of faith and unconditional rati we have mentioned are.

Brahmadis versions of high deities also sometimes.

So these Brahma vadis who worship the five deities also sometimes exhibit these symptoms.

Because they don't know how these symptoms.

Are.

Because they have no faith in the deities, their symptoms are temporary.

5 resemblance lost so this shows if.

You have faith the symptoms last.

So.

Everyone.

Can see and his sandals are.

Rati so everyone can achieve with due faith and devotion. The symptoms of rati.

Holds the emotions are not.

Permanent because they think this deities are imaginary faults, their emotions are not permanent. Note as mentioned in Bhakti Rasamruta Sindhu 1.3.4 2.43If softness of heart, the symptom of rathi bhava, becomes clearly visible in person, desiring liberation or in other unqualified persons is not real Rati. This is SLA Prabhupada's translation of the same verse. There are impersonalists, philosophers and mystics, however, who by a show of devotional service want ultimately merged into the existence of the Supreme Lord. They sometimes try to imitate a pure devotee sentiments for visiting the holy places where Krishna had his pastime. But they simply have a few view of salvation. Sorry. Have a view of salvation. So their activities cannot be considered attachment. There are impersonalists, philosophers and mystics, however, by a show of devotional service, one ultimately to merge into the existence of the Supreme Lord. They sometimes try to imitate a pure devotee sentiment for visiting the holy places where Krishna had his pastimes. But they simply have a view for salvation. So their activities cannot be considered attachment. The liberation that's mentioned here is the Saiyuja Mukti.

Merging into the Brahma Jyoti.

Merging into the Brahma Jyoti and losing your identity.

The Lord is not worship.

The devotees never accept this. They want to serve Krishna.

So their Rati is real.

So their Rati is real. Continuation of the second verse. Since those who desire material enjoyment or liberation do not perform pure Bhakti, how can Rati appear in them at all? Rati is sought after by liberated souls free from all desires and is not given immediately by Ka even to the devotees. Since it is the most sacred. Rla Prabhupada's rendition of the same verse. The translation of the same verse. For a person who simply wants to have liberation and to merge into the impersonal Brahma Jyoti, attachment to Ka is not possible to acquire. This attachment is very confidentially kept by Krishna and is bestowed only upon pure devotees. Even ordinary devotees cannot have such pure attachment for Ka. Therefore, how is it possible for success to be achieved by persons whose hearts are contaminated by the actions and reactions of fruitive activities and who are entangled by various types of mental speculation. There is a new topic.

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How many types of Rati are there? Upon thorough consideration, five types of Rati are observed in the world. They are Shuddha Rati, pure Rati, Chaya Rati, Shadow Rati, Prati, Bimba Rati, reflected Rati, Jada Rati, material Rati, Kapotra, Duplicity Rati and Shuddha Rati, Pure Rati. Okay, okay. Shuddharati explanation. Okay.

There are five kinds of Rati.

So there are five kinds of Rati.

The pure Rati is the one that.

We want and the pure Rati is the one that we want. The other four are duplicates. First Shuddharati Pure Rati Shuddharathi is referred to in the scriptures by various names such as Atmarati, Bhagavadrati, Chitrati and Bhava. When the living entity in a purified state engages in activities that connect them with the supreme personality of Godhead, this engagement is called Rati. The during this time there is no Rati to other objects other than that of the Lord. Single mindedness is the characteristic of Rati. Tenderness, smoothness, joy, taste and attachment are merely different states of Rati is fixed on the personality of Godhead then it's called Shuddharathi.

The mind is single word.

And the mind is single pointed and the mind is single pointed to Krishna, Lord Ramachandra, Goranga, etc.

Some vidot attached to.

Some people are attached to Varahadi, someone else to Narayana. So for different people, different personalities maybe their attachment Like Prahlad Maharaj he is attached to Narasinghadev.

Who are you attached to? So this is Donna's hot Naruti.

So this is known as. So this is known as Atmarati, Bhavarathi Chitrati or Bhava Chaya Shadow Rati. The slight manifestation of that Shuddharati Pure Rati is referred to as Chaya Rati Shadow Rati as mentioned in Bhakti Rasamithya Sindhu 1.3.4445 Though the semblance of Rati is very astounding to the innocent, those in knowledge understand what it really is by seeing the characteristics this Ratti Abhasa A semblance of Rati is of two types, reflection and glow. Srila Prabhupada's translation to the verse of this verse. Sorry, There are many so called devotees who artificially think of Krishna's pastimes known as Ashtakaliya Leela. Sometimes one may artificially imitate this pretending that Krishna is talking with him in the form of a boy. Or else one may pretend that Radharani and Krishna both have come to him and are talking with him. Such characteristics are sometimes exhibited by the impersonalist class of men and they may captivate some innocent persons who have no knowledge in the science of devotional service. However, as soon as an experienced devotee sees all of this caricatures, he can immediately evaluate such rascal them. If such a pretender is sometimes seen possessing imitative attachment to Krishna, that will not be accepted as real attachment.

I told about one person who was.

I told about one person who was imitating. He was imitating that Krishna had come.

But also he experienced devotees. We could tell it was all acting.

So I don't know. Some innocent devotees, they got fooled. But most of the experienced devotees, they know it was acting.

So there are two types.

So there are two types. Pratibimba reflection and Blue Chaya. Sometimes people can show these two types of shadow rati. We know that they don't have real rati. Quotation from Bhaktira Samrita Sindhu 1.3.49 Chaya Rathyabhasa the glow type of Bhava semblance is described as follows. Chaya Rathyabhasa has some similarity to real rati. It consists of shallow interest, shallow interest in the Lord and his service. It is unstable and it destroys sufferings. Rla Prabhupada's translation of that verse and if by manifestation of such shadow attachment one feels the disappearance of all material pangs, then it is called para attachment.

Has a shadow attachment.

So if one has shadow attachment, then the person may be free from all material pangs. He or she may be little interested in Krishna. But it's not stable.

Even this annotation. Partial states of rati so even this.

Imitation of the partial state of rati.

Also. They're also very good.

They're also very good.

But we want the real thing.

But we want the real thing.

That means you don't just have shadow interest.

That means you don't. That means you don't just have a shadow interest in Krishna. You want to have real interest in Krishna.

Even if you have a shadow interest.

Even if you have shadow interest. What was the last part?

It destroys your suffering.

It destroys your sufferings. Hari Priyaki Kaladesha Patradi Sangamat this Chaya Rathyabhasa appears sometimes even in ignorant people by an unintentional combination of performing actions dear to the Lord, observing festivals of the Lord, residing in the dharma of the Lord, and associating with devotees of the Lord. Even this Chaya Rathya Bhasa, which eventually bestows auspiciousness to those people, appears only as a result of great fortune. Rla Prabhupada's translation of the same verse from Bhaktira Samruta Sindhu Such shadow attachment or para attachment can develop if one associates with a pure devotee or visits holy places like Vrindavan Omatura. And if an ordinary man develops such attachment for Krishna and fortunately performs devotional activities in the association of Pure devotees, he can also rise to the platform of pure devotional service. The conclusion is that transcendental attachment, such shadow attachment or para attachment can develop if one associates with a pure devotee or visits holy places like Vrindavan or Mathura. And if an ordinary man develops such attachment for Krishna and fortunately performs devotional activities in the association of pure devotees, he can also rise to the platform of pure devotional service. The conclusion is that transcendental attachment is so powerful that if such attachment is seen manifested even in some common man by the association of a pure devotee, it can bring one to the perfectional stage. But such attachment for Ka cannot be invoked in a person without his being sufficiently blessed by the association of pure devotees.

So if I call that awakens.

If a common man awakens the Arati by associating with devotees or by visiting holy places like Vrindav and Mathura in Mayapur, who are performing some activities which are very dear to Krishna.

Like if you hear the glories.

Like if you hear sometimes. Like. So sometimes by hearing the glories of different Ekadasis, a fallen person can get devotion by following those. Ekadasis.

Was son of prince who was very father.

So in one of the recent Ekadases, just like in one of the recent Ekadasis, there was a son of a prince who was very fallen. He would hang out with prostitutes, he would steal. So the father, the king, he sent him to the forest. So somehow one day he got a fruit from a tree and then he fasted on a kadasi. And then the following day he took the fruit.

So he had lost and he got blessed. Horse came.

Chance.

Hands on horse.

So of course he came, he changed and he became handsome and fortunate.

So he went back to the kingdom and he was accepted by the king.

So he went back to the kingdom and he was accepted by the king. And he got this special attachment to Krishna.

That's something that Krishna likes.

Even if someone does something that Krishna likes, he can get great blessings. Okay. Bhaktira Samrita Sindhu 1.3.5 2.53By the Great Mercy of a dear devotee of the Lord, the semblance of Bhava may suddenly become real Bhava by offending such a devotee. However, even the best Baba Bha gradually wanes just as the full moon wanes in the sky. Srila Prabhupada's translation of this verse. As attachment can be invoked by the association of pure devotee, so such attachment can also extinguished by offenses committed at the lotus Feet of pure devotees. To be more clear, by association of pure devotees, attachment for Ka can be aroused. But if one commits offences at the lotus feet of a devotee, one's shadow attachment or para attachment can be extinguished. This extinguishing is like the waning of the full moon which gradually decreases and at last becomes dark. Devoted one's attachment to Ka can be awakened by association with pure devotees. If you offend a pure devotee, that attachment can disappear. Just like the full moon wanes in, the sky gradually becomes a dark moon. So avoid Vaishnava Aparat. Very dangerous. Very, very dangerous. It.

Hare Krishna. So tonight we are going to announce the result of the Bhu Mandala puzzle competition.

Wow.

So according to the rules that Guru Maharaj announced two nights ago, he said whoever could build the Bhu Mandala faster, they will be declared as the winner. So Matajis, seven of them got together last night. They managed to put the puzzles together in 1 hour 8 minutes 29 seconds. Today, three Prabhu's they managed to put together in 1 hour 10 minutes 49 seconds. So according to the rule, officially the Matajis, they have won the competition. But the Prabhu's also just three of them, they managed to do it in 1 hour 10 minutes. So they also deserve a big Haribol. So now we'll have Guru Maharaj. He has a special gift for all the participants. They have a lot nourishing Dev Abhishek oil as well as a small book for all of you. So we'll read out the name participants, the Mataji side we have. Who are those? Haritha Madhavi Taptakanshani, Radhika Bhakti Mahi Radhika. Raise your hand.

Yes.

Amartha Madhavi Devidasi Aribal Madhu Malati Aribal. Small girl. How old? How old are you? Seven years old, I think. Bhuvana Pojita, Rajdika, Mataji Haribol Padma Sundari Mataji, the captain. And then Prabhu Chaitanya Vishwambar Das Pama Mai Krishna Das. Okay, they are the back. Anadi Akshaya Krishnadas. He's here, right in the front. A big hurryball to all of them. All of them will get the same gifts. And the takeaway of this competition is that they learned how the whole Bhu Mandala was created in detail. Consolation prize for whom, boys? Oh, this is the consolation prize. Blessings for everyone.

Yeah, that's it. Dear fortunate devotees, for those who are physically present here, you have a very nice opportunity to do a Service to Guru Maharaj. To left of you near the gate there is a physical book table wherein you can serve Guru Maharaj fulfilling the instruction of Srila Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada's special instruction to Guru maharaj is that 10,000 Mahabik books and 100,000 small books he should distribute every month. First is a monthly contribution so you can sponsor at least one Bhagavad Gita or few small books in the physical book table. Your name will be chanted in Guru Mahraurh's channel here in Sri Dhammayapur. Thank you very much. Welcome to Guru Maharaj Virtual Book Table. Yesterday the fortunate devotees, those who have visited physical book tables are Amrita Madhavi Devidasi 2 Bhagavad Gita Krishna Das 3 Bhagavad Gita Govinda Das 2 Bhagavad Gita Bhupen Roy 1 Bhagavad Gita Then we have our Nitya Sevites, Balachandra Channa, Vinita Gandharvika Devidasi Balavrinda 4 small books. Then you have Domini Mataji, Domini and Domini Mataji and her family one Bhagavad Gita and 10 small books. This is exactly one is to 10 ratio as Guru Maharaj wants it as per Srila Prabhupada's instruction. While Guru Maharaj has the monthly contribution, Domini Mataji and family is contributing consistently as a daily Contribution in the 1 is to 10 ratio. Thank you very much Domini Mataji and family for being a role model and an exemplary example for all of us to follow. And so all these devotees are getting a special Narasimha Puja in a few hours from now in Sridhar Mayapur. All of you also please bless them by calling out Nitai Goranga with me Nita Ranga and please pause on this wonderful opportunity of participating in Guru Maharaj pastime and distributing Prabhupada books even with a single Bhagavad Gita or just 10 small books. Please do WhatsApp anytime to Guru Mahraj Virtual book table at +919434760402. Stay tuned for tomorrow's Lord Chaitanya class. Let's do an intense prayer for Guru Maharaj. Full and speedy recovery. Tomorrow is having dialysis so and of course our prayers include for all those who are celebrating their anniversaries today for their well being and blissful Krishna consciousness. Please join me in the prayers intense prayer. Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare. Thank you very much.