20250116- Fourth Stream —First Stream — Prema-bhakti-vicāra part3

A recorded spiritual discourse (January 2025) by Jaya Pataka Swami exploring the nature and development of Prema (divine love) through Bhakti, especially Raganuga and Sadhana Bhakti. The speaker reads and explains scriptural citations (Padma Purana, Narada Pancharatra, Bhakti Rasamrita Sindhu), distinguishes types of Prema (e.g., Prasadotta, Mahatma/Jnana-yukta, Kevala/Keval Prem), and emphasizes devotional service and eternal association with Krishna.
Krishna Sami Prata. Yes, okay, sure. Hare Krishna. Dear devotees, today we will continue with the reading from Sri Chaitanya Shiksham of Shila Sachidananda Bhakti Vinod Thakur Continuation the sixth stream the analysis of Prema Raga Nuga Bhavotta Prema Prema arising from Bhava by following Raganuga Sadhana Bhakti as mentioned in Padma Purana Quoted by Rupa Goswami in bhakti rasamruta sindhu 1 4.7 to 8 in this manvantara, the beautiful faced Chandrakandhi observed continuous celibacy and always meditated on that form of Krishna, thinking one should not desire anyone else. Her husband with hairs standing on end. She sang songs about Krishna and she developed complete affection for him by hearing stories about him. Srila Prabhupada's translation In the Padma Purana there is a statement about ecstatic love born of spontaneous affection. Chandrakanti, a celebrated fair faced girl, rigidly observed celibacy in order to obtain Krishna as her husband. She always engaged herself in meditating on the transcendental form of the Lord and always chanted the glories of the Lord. She did not desire to accept anyone else as her husband. She had firmly decided that only Lord Krishna would be her husband. Ati, would you like to say something? Okay, sure. ATI Prasadotta Prema Prema Arising through the great mercy of Bhagavan, Krishna is of two types. Only through the association with Bhagavan does this mercy arise. By the mercy of a person who has attained Prema Bhava arises subsequently through the association with Krishna or by serving the components of Bhava, Prema also manifests.
So we see how sound devotees are very fixed on Krishna.
So we see how some devotees are.
Very fixed on Krishna and they observe sad, see various things to only have Krishna as their husband.
They observe celibacy and other things to only have Krishna as their husband.
There is the mercy of Krishna by practicing Sadhana Bhakti There is mercy of.
Krishna by practicing Sadhana Bhakti and by someone.
Who has achieved Prema completely by the mercy of Krishna by someone who.
Have completely achieved Prema by completely by achieving the mercy of Krishna. Two types of Prasadotta Prema Mahatma Jnana Yukta Prema Prema with the knowledge of the greatness of Bhagavan Kevala Prem Pure Prema the first one Mahatma Jnana Yukta Prema Prema with the knowledge of the greatness of Bhagavan Prema that arises following the path of rules and regulations Vidhi Marga is called Mahatma Gyana Yukta Prema with the knowledge of greatness.
In this type of brain one is aware how great Krishna is.
In this type of Prem when one is aware how great Krishna is.
Starts step by step comes up.
So he starts with vritti mark Step by step he comes up to the platform of Bhava Roti Premier, shall I read this? As mentioned, a verse from Sri Narada Pancharatra cited in Bhakti Rasamrita Sindhu 1.14.14 translation of that verse, those who have practiced Vaidi Bhakti attain Prema with knowledge of the Lord's greatness. Prabhupada's translation of that verse Generally a devotee who has achieved the causeless mercy of the Lord on account of following the strict rules and regulations of devotional service becomes attracted by the supreme greatness of the Lord, by the transcendental beauty of the Lord, and by the spontaneous execution of devotional service. To be more clear, by executing the regulatory principles of devotional service, one can fully appreciate the transcendental beauty of the Lord.
So some of the creatures of the Lord, his brightness, these are same lively.
Some of the beauty of the Lord, his greatness, his features are seen by the devotees very regularly based on their practicing the vidhi mart very regularly and.
Come to Rati and Prema and come.
To Rati and Prema.
So Lord Krishna he advocates with the love of the devotees.
So Lord Krishna he reciprocates with the love of his devotees. Samav refer to it as affectionate devotion. Sneha Bhakti as quoted by Rupa Goswami Bhakti Rasamruta Sindhu from Sri Narada Pancharatra Very deep affection for the Lord that is endowed with knowledge of the Lord's powers is better than anything else and is called Bhakti. By that Bhakti a person attains powers in the spiritual world Shastri Mukti as well as other rewards. There's no other way to attain this. Prabhupada's translation of that verse in the Narada Pancharatra it is said that if on account of profound veneration for the greatness of the supreme Lord, one attains a great affection and steady love for him, one is certainly assured of attaining the four kinds of vaiava liberation, namely, achieving the same bodily features as the Lord, achieving the same opulence as the Lord dwelling on the planet where the Lord is residing and attaining eternal association with the Lord. Attaining eternal association with the Lord. Through that Prema alone, the Jiva soul attains shasti equality of opulence, Sa rupya, similarity of form, samiyapya proximity and sarlokya resident in the same realm with Bhagavan. Even after liberation, the Jiva continues to serve Bhagavan in those respective ways. So.
Here it says that if you are getting the association with the Lord.
And Vidhimarga, so our devotee from Serbia asks. And here it says that if we get liberation in the form of association with the Lord Siruvidi Mark and that.
By the mercy of the Lord, he wants you to serve him in a spiritual world.
By the mercy of the Lord, he wants you to serve him in the spiritual world.
So the service doesn't end.
The service doesn't end even after liberation.
After liberation one is more inclined to serve.
So after liberation one is more inclined to serve.
And how Krishna is giving his association to the devotees.
So how Krishna is giving his association to devotees who are serving him.
Devotees don't want liberation just for liberation's sake. They want horizon. They're going to accept it to serve the Lord.
So the devotees don't want liberation for liberation's sake. They can accept it to serve the Lord.
If you don't live in the same realm as the Lord, then how can you serve it?
If you don't stay in the same realm of the Lord, then how can you serve Him?
When a person loves Ka, naturally they want to serve the person they love.
If the person loves Krishna, then naturally they want to serve the person that they love.
So the real subject service.
So the real subject is service.
Without service is that.
Liberation without service is not desired by the devotees. So in Vedimark we know that the Lord is great.
Actually put into some service which you understand the greatness of the Lord.
So you naturally fit into some service. When you understand the greatness of the Lord.
Eternal association with the Lord and.
You get eternal association with the Lord.
If you get that prima, it helps you to achieve all kinds of liberation.
Naturally, if you achieve Prema, then it helps you to achieve the four kinds of liberation.
Even after a liberation, he says that Jesus continues to serve Bhagavan.
Even after liberation, the Jiva continues to serve Bhagavan, right? Yeah, yeah. Cable frame. Pure Prema. The Prema that arises by Sadhana of taking shelter of Raganuga Bhakti, spontaneous devotion almost attains the state of pure Prema as Sri Narda Pancharatra cited in bhaktira Samrita Sindhu, January. 14. Those who have practiced Ragnuga bhakti, on the other hand, usually attain keval. Prem Narada Panchratra quoted in BRS.1 4 13. The Bhakti that inundated with Prema and takes the form of unobstructed and unmotivated thoughts following toward Hari brings even Vishnu under control. Srila Prabhupada's translation of that verse in the Narada Pancharatra Pure unalloyed devotional service explained as being without any motive for personal benefit. If a devotee is continuously in love with Lord Krishna and his mind is always fixed upon him, that devotional attitude will prove to be the only means of attracting the attention of the Lord. The word Praya means that if there is attachment to the portions of regulative principles during the practice of Raga Nuga Sadhana, then Prema does not become keval. In the practice of Ragnuga Bhakti, if the regulatory principles are followed merely out of habit, without attachment, then at that time of perfection pure Prema manifests. Prema is the crown jewel of all purposes. When Prema arises, life becomes meaningful. The Jiva soul attains all perfections. We have Radha Madhavastha Saki, we have Radha Madhu Mayapurchandra. These are all forms of Krishna.
Various ways one becomes attached to these forms of Krishna.
So in various ways one becomes attached to these various forms of Ka and.
Then attached to Krishna. And the Prana bhakti awakens when one.
Is attached to Krishna, then the Prema Bhakti awakens.
The process.
So the process of Premavakti following Raganuga.
Is something natural and spontaneous.
Is something natural and spontaneous.
Feels attracted to Krishna.
One feels attracted to Krishna.
Wants to serve Krishna.
Plane and wants to serve Krishna on this Raga Nuga plane.
Wants to serve Ka spontaneously, naturally.
The devotees want to serve Krishna spontaneously, naturally in Raganuga.
So here are learning different ways that we can love Ka.
So here we are learning through them we can love what was the last part? Gurumaj. In different ways we can love Krishna. So we can see different forms of Krishna as Archa avatara. And.
So they're not exactly the same. They are nothing material can be exactly the same as Krishna's transcendental form.
They are not exactly the same because nothing material can be exactly same as to Krishna's transcendental form, right?
One can develop this natural love for the Lord.
That one can develop this natural love for the Lord.
So in the natural development of devotion.
In the natural development of one's devotion.
So there's states or one loving Krishna.
There is a stage where one develops to one develops. One becomes sorry. One develops to the loving stage of Krishna.
So when one rose ran off, life becomes mineral and the soul attains all progressions.
So when one develops Prema, one's life becomes meaningful and the soul attains all perfections. All perfection naturally develops attachment to Krishna.
So the idea.
The idea is that. So the idea is that we have the Raganuga Bhakti. Then the natural development of spontaneous service becomes manifest. He.
Says we have to attend some program.
So Gurma is and online. Please bless them. Gurumaj. Thanks.
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