20250125- Third Stream — Consideration of nāma-bhajana according to the eligibility for prema part 3

Gurmaj explores devotional service to Krishna through Bhakti Vinod Thakur and the Bhagavatam, arguing that Krishna's mercy and association with pure devotees enables prema. The jiva is a spiritual particle from Krishna, and devotional bliss surpasses impersonal Brahman. He warns against offenses that block realization and how to distinguish genuine spiritual progress from mere advancement.
Maybe somebody can go and see if Prasanna Goranga has made some Teel ladu or not. Maybe you can go and check whether he has made Teelira due to all of you present here. Can somebody go and check Prabhu please? Or take a till like a pinch or something like that. Eat it. Okay, so Gurmaj will continue. Shall we continue with reading Krishna.
Sari?
Hi Krishna. Dear devotees, today we will continue with the reading from Sri Chaitanya Shikshamrata Vaishla Sachidan and the Bhakti Vinod Thakur Continuing with the sixth stream analysis of Prema the second shower, second shower, sixth shower, second stream. So in the Tantra it is mentioned by cultivating philosophical knowledge one can understand his spiritual position and thus be liberated and by performing sacrifices and pious activities one can achieve sense gratification in a higher planetary system. But the devotional service of the Lord is so rare that even by executing hundreds and thousands of such sacrifices one cannot obtain it. Yeah, I read that Sam. It's mentioned here Haribhakti Sudhullabha.
Rajana service is very rare.
Devotional service or being a devotee of Krishna is very rare.
Executing hundreds and thousands of sacrifices Even.
By executing hundreds and thousands of sacrifices.
One cannot obtain it.
One cannot obtain it.
So Rah Rah has given you his.
Rare benediction Srila Prabhupada has given you this rap benediction to perform Bhakti Yoga and performance of Haribhakti is very rare.
One of the renowned neurologists in California.
One of the renowned neurologists from Kolkata One of the renowned neurologists from Kolkata he had come to what is the.
Driving force that drew you from America to India?
So he asked me what is the driving force that drove you from America to India? I said that it is AC Bhaktivedanta, Swami Prabhupada and Lord Chaitanya and Lord Chaitanya.
So Prabhupada giving all of you.
This.
Process of Bhakti Yoga.
So Srila Prabhupada is giving all of you this process of Bhakti Yoga.
The scripture says out of hundreds and thousands high Bhaktar.
So of hundreds and thousands of people Bhakti is very rare.
The devotional service to Lord Krishna is so rare that even by executing hundreds and thousands other sacrifices.
Devotional service to Lord Krishna is so rare that even by executing hundreds and thousands of other sacrifices one cannot obtain it. But one can obtain it by but one can obtain it by the mercy of Lord Gauranga. Herein I. I Refers to Bhakti Vinod Thakkar. Here in I am discussing this subject a little. The Jiva is a spiritual particle. Krishna's abode is the spiritual world. Krishna is the spiritual sun. Krishna's bhakti. Krishna Bhakti is the nature of the spirit of spiritual activity. Krishna's name is the specific form of spiritual Rasa Chit, Rasa vigraha. Vishesha. We have previously said these points many times and provided scriptural evidence. Now by discussing spiritual truth in the company of great souls who aspire for Prema I'll endeavor to obtain my satisfaction. If we have previous. Sorry. If we have pious merits, Sukriti spiritual happiness will arise in our hearts. We have no taste for the realization of mere impersonal Brahman. Because in that there is no playful activity of spiritual substance.
So doctor, you know Takar, he's just trying. He wants to deviate from wrong or stop you wrong.
So Bhakti Vinath Thakur is saying that he wants to deviate from or he wants to stop you for a moment. Stop here for a moment. Sorry.
So Krishna is like spiritual son.
So Krishna is like the spiritual son.
He lives in his spiritual world.
He lives in his spiritual world.
Krishna Bhakti is a spiritual activity.
And Krishna Bhakti is the spiritual activity. And Krishna's name is Chitrasavikraha Vishesha. Oh, the spiritual form of the spiritual Rasa.
Colony of people who want Krishna.
Prem, now we are in the company of people. Those who want Krishna Premise that has to be cleaned.
Like that. You see some real punya.
You see, if you do some material punya, you get some punya.
What if you do? I feel this so kriti.
But you see, if you do spiritual activities then you will get sukriti.
I was thinking about how to help the devotees advance.
I was thinking that how to help the devotees to advance.
See that Here Rajana Dhaka is.
We can feel it. But here we can see that Bhakti Vinath Thakur is revealing.
Our hearts.
So here Bhakti Vinath Thakkur revealing. If we have sukriti spiritual credits, we'll have spiritual happiness arising in our hearts.
How having this impersonal liberation.
So he is talking about the thought that having this impersonal liberation.
No, none of the.
There is no. None of the play. There is no playful activities of Krishna Leela.
Some of our devotees are very anxious to come out of this material suffering.
So so many devotees are very anxious to come out from this material suffering.
Again and again. Encouraging us to not accept realization of impersonal.
But here we can see Bhakti Vinathakar again and again emphasizing do not so do not go for impersonal realization. In Krishna Leela there is playful activity Krishna Seva there is playful activity of spiritual reality.
Trying to use this word.
So this is what Bhakti Venattakar has been trying to give us through this work. As mentioned in Srimad Bhagavatam 4.9.10 My Lord, the transcendental bliss derived from meditating upon your lotus feet or hearing about your glories from pure devotees is so unlimited that it is far beyond the stage of Brahmananda wherein one thinks himself merged in the impersonal Brahman as one with the Supreme. Since Brahmananda is also defeated by the transcendental bliss derived from devotional service, then what to speak of temporary blissfulness of elevating oneself to the heavenly planets which is ended by separating sword of time. Although one may be elevated to the heavenly planets, he falls down in due course of time.
Stating how things like pious sacrifices and activities so here leads to heavenly planets.
So here the Bhagavasam is stating that how by sacrifice, sacrifices and pious activities one can reach the heavenly planets, but eventually you have to fall down from there.
Someone giving you a pass or something. Five star hotel it's like somebody giving.
You a pass or something for a five star hotel.
Stay there, stay there. So the money runs out.
Till the money runs out and then you get out, you have to go. This is like the heavenly planets. And then if one gets the Brahmananda place like the four Kumaras, they had it when they went to Vishnu Loka and then bowed down to Lord Vishnu when they smelled the Tulsi offered to his lotus feet, they started to feel ecstatic far beyond the impersonal Brahman.
They were immediately changed to devotees.
Then they were immediately changed to devotees.
They thought they had already achieved wrong realization. They thought this is it.
They thought that they have already achieved Brahman realization. They thought this is it. And then they bowed down and smelled the Tulsi offered to Krishna's lotus feet.
And they realize this is much higher.
So and then they realize this is much higher.
This is not some theory.
This is not some.
These are hardly will.
So this is not some theory. This is practical. These are four people who have reached the impersonal Brahman.
When they were there and they went to Vishnu Loka, they realized the transcendental list achieved like Ka.
So they when they were there they went to the Vishnu Loka. They realized the transcendental bliss achieved by serving Krishna.
So that's why we all want Krishna Prema.
Right? You all want Krishna Prema, right? Aren't you? Oh, yes. How many of you have sailed for the impersonal Brahman?
Of course.
Yeah.
Two gatekeepers who stopped the four Kumaras.
Of course. There were these two gatekeepers who stopped the four KumaraS.
Yeah. They cursed them.
They cursed them. And then they cursed them. You'll fall down to the material world.
However.
Then Vishnu asked them, would you like to go down for seven births as devotees or three births as demons will be killed by me? And they wanted to get. So they wanted to get back quick.
So they went for the three birthday.
So they came as Hiranyaksha. Hiranyakashipu came as Ravana and his brother Kumbakarna. Shishupala and Dantavakra. Shishupala and dantavakra. Haribo Dashamula. 10 fundamental principles the incarnation for the deliverance of Kali Yuga has shown nine Pramayas truths or conclusions as evidence in the Vedas. This subject is elaborately seen in the Rmad Bhagavatam. The living entity's spiritual particle nature has been established by the evidence of the Vedas. The spiritual particle nature of the living entity is confirmed by saying that it's a ray of the son of Krishna as mentioned in The Brihadaranya Upanishad 2.1.10 Vishpulinga Vishuranti Evam Sarvani Bhutani Vyucharanti. Just as small sparks are born out of a flame. Similarly, the Jivas emanate from Krishna, the universal soul. Jiva the enjoyer has the possibility of two residences, the material world and the spiritual realm, both of which he may seek. However, Jiva finds himself at the junction of these two places. The Jiva is a particle. So Bhakti Vin attacker. He wrote this Dashamola. So this was written by Sannyasi. One is a disciple of Srila Prabhupada and one is his grand disciple. They have written this Dasamola and the teachings of Srila Prabhupada.
Very nice.
It's very nice.
Available yet?
I don't know whether it is available yet to the devotees or not. Is it available yet? I continue reading. The Jiva is a particle. Okay. Where did I stop? Okay. Jiva the enjoyer has the possibility of two residences, the material world and the spiritual realm, both of which he may seek. However, the Jiva finds himself at the junction of these two places. The Jiva is a particle, Kiran Kanna or the race of Krishna who's like the sun, Arka Swarupa. The spiritual nature of both Krishna and the living entities. The true spiritual nature of both Krishna and the living entities is indeed. The difference is Krishna is like the sun and the living entities are his ray particles. Krishna is the supreme Lord and the living entities are his eternal servants. Krishna's abode, the transcendental realm is Goloka is the direct spiritual abode. And there is no doubt about it, Vaikuntha and other names as Chitjagar, spiritual name, spiritual world are used to refer that transcendental abode. Vaikuntha and other names such as Chit Jagat spiritual world are used to refer to that transcendental abode.
So Krishna is all spiritual.
So Krishna is all spiritual.
When he comes down to the material world, he comes in his spiritual form.
So when he comes down to the material world, to the material world, he comes in his spiritual form.
He doesn't come like us.
Don'T come like us.
He comes of his own free will.
He comes of his own free will just to deliver the fallen souls.
And they are the eternal service of.
Krishna and the living entities, the Jivas, they are the eternal servants of Krishna.
Because.
Sorrow we are in this material world because somehow we desired that.
Opportunity, human form of life.
So now we have gotten this opportunity, the human form of life to go back.
All right. He published the back to Godhead.
So Srila Prabhupada. He published the back to Godhead. And back to Godhead means go back to the Chit Chagat Goloka or Vaikuntha, the spiritual world. Okay.
Yeah.
No, no. Nobody raised their hand it.
This.
Try some white sail Christian. They have quoted one thing which you have mentioned in your app. Relax. Hello Guru Maharaj. They have quoted something from something which you have mentioned in your app. Srila Bhakti Vinod Thakur has given step by step advancement. So if one does this step by step gradual process then he or she can very quickly advance. We should notice if we are making advancement or not. If we are making advancement. If we are making. If we are making advancement and then not really progressing, we should notice that how and somehow we make up for any mistakes. The different obstacles like offenses may stop our progress. We pray to Krishna to avoid offenses. So we notice how we are progressing. Then we can achieve Prema quickly. So the question is the statement if we are making advancement but not really progressing, what is the difference between advancing and progressing?
I don't hear you.
In your class you mentioned that. Yeah.
Here we get one point we should see, analyze.
So you see the. You see that when we get to one point, we should see and analyze.
What are the actuals, what are the.
Obstacles, mistake that we have made and correct them. So in that way we can progress. Otherwise we would advance to one point and you'll stuck there.
So we want to advance.
So we want to advance and keep progressing. Hare Krishna. Thank you. That is from like 8:49. Thank you very much.
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