20250304 The Destination of persons on the path of prema part3

A March 2025 YouTube recording of Jaya Pataka Swami leading a live class (part 3) on 'The Destination of persons on the path of prema.' The discourse reads and comments on Sri Chaitanya/Shikshamrita and Bhakti Vinod Thakur, emphasizing the necessity of association with a bona fide spiritual master, the gardener/creeper metaphor for devotional practice, and the progressive stages toward bhava and prema. The talk explains different devotional mellows (servitude, friendship, parental, conjugal), uses Krishna/Arjuna episodes to illustrate relationships, and gives practical guidance on devotional practices and initiation; it closes with announcements (virtual book table number +91‑9434‑760402) and communal prayers for recovery and anniversaries.
So someone just wrote me a letter saying that they are having some difficulties in the material world.
Sometimes the finance doesn't matter. Sometimes.
Sometimes the finance doesn't match. Sometimes there is some other difficulties.
Problem.
Do any of you face this problem? I think all of them. I think this person thinks that he or she is the only one.
Some days easy. Sunday is rough.
Material world. Some day it's easy, some days it's rough. When the good day goes, then everything is all right. Okay.
So I don't think the material world. All these places stay.
So we are given some tests. So that you don't think that this material world is a cozy place to stay. You have only hope, Guru Maharaj.
We are always detached.
If you are always detached from the material world then we don't get as many tests. Or you would become immune to the tests. Okay?
Krishna.
Sa Sutana Forehead.
Hare Krishna. Dear devotees, today we will continue with the reading from Sri Chaitanya Shikshamrita Bharshala Sachidanandas Bhakti Vinod Thakur. Today's topic is. Wow. What a coincidence. Association with a bona fide spiritual master who destroys the disturbances. There was a woman. I took it up. Association with bona fide spiritual master who destroys the disturbances. Therefore, the gardener, following the instructions of a bona fide spiritual master, gradually uproots all these unwanted creepers and cut them down. In this way, the main creeper of devotional service continues to grow and reach the transcendental abode of Vrindavan Mayapur as well. Both there, the fruit of love ripens and falls and the gardener relishes it while remaining here. By taking shelter of the creeper, the gardener, in the form of a spiritual particle, reaches the desired tree of Sri Krishna's lotus feet. Lotus feed. Present there, the gardener continues to serve the desired tree. Okay, okay. Okay. Present there, the gardener continues to serve the desired tree and taste the fruit of love which is the super excellent goal of life. By taking shelter of the creeper, the gardener, in the form of a spiritual particle reaches the desire tree of Lord Sri Krishna's lotus feet. Present there, the gardener continues to serve the desire tree and taste the fruit of love which is the super excellent goal of life. I didn't date you. I didn't date you.
Reaching Broads are no problem. Very nice.
Reaching.
I said.
Okay. When I said it's mentioned Vrindavan, I said Mayapur.
Oh, it mentions Vrindavan.
It's mentioned Vrindavan.
Yeah, I said.
I said Mayapur.
We just thought Krishna is eternally In.
Braj, just that Krishna is eternally in Braji.
But Karani made this Naradv nine islands.
But Radharani has made this Navadip with nine islands.
Each island representing one of the practices of devotional service.
With each island representing one of the practices of devotional service.
And so this way, this Lord Chaitanya is also in.
This way, Lord Chaitanya is also in Golok.
Vrindavan has four parts.
It has four parts.
Raja.
Raja Madara, Mathura and Dwaraka and Sajidweep and Shweta Dweep. And Shweta Dweep is where Lord Goranga is. So we don't read much about what happens in Goranga's island.
He was only here 500 years ago.
He was only here 500 years ago. And we have a lot of information about what he did in Mayapur, Shantipur, Nadia.
What he did in Orissa and Jagannathpuri.
And what he did in Orissa and Jagannath Puri. He traveled all over South India and then went to Vrindavan and many other places. He defeated the Mayavadis and Nyases.
I mean, they're really tough to convert.
They're really tough to convert.
Mayavadi short circuit.
They are Mayavadis. They have a short circuit.
He did it.
He did it.
That's a miracle in itself.
That's a miracle in itself. Unbelievable.
Only Lord Chaitanya can do it.
Only Lord Chaitanya can do it.
Why is that secret from the devotees?
Why is that secret from the devotees? He wants to censor.
You got to know this.
He cannot know this. So Gurmaj was saying, Bhakti Vinod thakur was there 120 years ago. I thought he wanted to say something personally to me regarding some other things. So that's why I switched off the mic. Hi, Krishna. No, no you don't, Guru Maharaj. We do.
People and the material world are running ahead. How they can enjoy the world.
People in the material world, they're planning ahead. How they can enjoy in this material world.
Like this, they take birth after bird.
Like this, they take birth after birth.
And the animals are also trying to do the same thing.
The animals, they're also trying to do the same thing.
They want to enjoy.
They want to enjoy. Eat, sleep, eat dessert, eat, sleep, mate, defend. Any other worms. Yeah, he's using his microscopic eye too. Yeah. Yeah. So Bhakti Vinath Thakuru is explaining about the conjugal millock. But this process of hearing chanting and remembering the holy name of Lord Hari. The person aspiring for love, Premaru Rukshu becomes pure hearted and attains the Bhava stage. With the emergence of Bhava the qualification for the Rasa mellow arises. All the mellows in Krishna's pastimes are supremely sweet. The mallows of neutrality, servitude, friendship and parental affection are each supremely relishable in their own. Devotees become absorbed in the mallow suitable to their respective qualifications. According to Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's teachings, the conjugal malo is the worshipable object for devotees. So different devotees, different people may be in different mellows.
He is in the mellow of servitude.
Like Hanuman, he is in the mellow of servitude. He's in super bliss, but he is in super bliss.
He was in a very good old service because he had to save Sita was read and ride with rock horses. So.
He was in a difficult situation. He wanted to see Sita free from the control of the Rakshasas. So in friendship we have the Brajashakas, Subaltern and others. In Dwarka you have Arjuna, he was a Saka.
And then you have like Olava.
Also you have Sakas like Uddav who was sent to Vrindavan.
He tells anyone give up the redjeer with Krishna and never do it.
If you tell anyone to give up their friendship with Krishna, they would never do it.
Completely satisfied.
They are completely satisfied.
Why not slow down? And Arjuna, he came and asked to ask Krishna if he would fight with them. So he was relative. So he was a relative rung the whole time.
So Duryodhan and Arjuna, they came to meet Krishna to ask for help for the fight. And Arjuna and Duryodhan were relatives of Krishna, so he should give one person.
He was lying down side of his foot and going down side by side. So when he woke up and asked the little foot first, so I said oh, what do you want?
So the point is that Arjuna was sitting at Krishna's foot and Duryodhana was by his side. And naturally when he woke up he saw Arjuna first and he asked oh Arjuna, what do you want?
How Krishna would be with him, he wouldn't be fighting and the Krishna's army would be the other one.
So they had two choices. One is to have Krishna with him, but he wouldn't be fighting the other one to have Krishna's army. So Arjuna he said.
Durya then thought no, I get Krishna's army. I wanted that out. Anyway.
So Durya then thought, oh, I have Krishna's army. I want that anyway. Arjuna chose Krishna's army. Arjuna. Sorry. Arjuna chose Krishna. Anyway, I wanted Krishna's army. I'm sorry, Guru Maharaj, I have a lousy translator here. He should repeat what I say, not what he thinks. Not what he thinks, not what he thinks.
I mean, if you have a supreme personality of London on your side, what do you have to worry about?
If you have. I mean, if you have the supreme personality of God hit by your side, what do you have to worry about?
And then the sun looked and set. He ran out and said, I want you as a father. Liar.
I didn't get that.
Huh?
I didn't hear that.
YouTube or what?
I'm so sorry.
I don't kill.
So Arjuna made a promise. If I don't kill Jaya Dratha at the end, by the end of the battle, he took a vow.
I will enter the fire, kill myself.
I would enter the fire and kill myself.
So the enemy lined up in a needle formation.
And the enemies, they lined up in a needle formation.
At the end of it was Jayatrada.
At the end of it it was Jayatrata. Arjuna had to defeat everyone.
On the opposite side.
On the opposite side.
That was like.
Hundreds, I don't know how many Maharathis they had, like hundreds of them.
What? He defeated all the Rajesh, the Jar Rajah and the sun went down. The Jar Raja ran out.
So he defeated all.
I won. I won. And then you have the end of the fire.
So he defeated all of them. And then Jayadrata ran and he said that I won. I won. You have to enter the fire.
And a cloud came out. A cloud was hiding the sun.
A cloud was hiding the sun.
Krishna moved it.
Krishna moved it.
The sunlight came out.
And suddenly the sun came out.
Of an arrow, shook his head to the lap of his daughter.
So he said that program your arrow to take off his hat and it should fall in his father's lap.
Because there is a curse by his father that caused his son's head to touch the ground, but also die somewhere.
So there's a curse. Whomever crosses the curse cursed by the father. Whomever crosses the son's head to fall down on earth will also die.
What science, Dannur science, they can program the arrows. What to do?
What science? We know. But in the Dhanur science, you can program the arrow. What to do?
Go here, go there, do this, do that, go here.
Go there, do this, do that.
Sam mantra.
Some mantra.
Not everyone knows only those who are trained.
Not everyone knows only those who are trained.
Arjuna was fully trained.
So Arjuna was fully trained by Dronacharya.
Atom bombs.
He could throw atom bombs. He could take them back. He could do all kinds of things.
Take his head in the lap of his father.
So program your arrow. Take his hat. The lap of his father took. The head was taken out and dropped in his father's lap. The father was like, oh my son's head. And he took it. Relax, Relax.
Right?
So Krishna has different relationships. And in those relationships they are supremely happy. Here it's mentioned supremely sweet.
So they have a mellow Sunil called.
Their particular or they have mellow suitable for their qualifications. According to Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, the highest mellow is the conjugal mellows. It includes all the other mellows and also something special.
So that all these are in Dalan and the greens and Dharha.
So the Gopis in Vrindavan and the queens in Dwaraka, they are in this conjugal mood. 18 Pretty much there's an initiation.
This.
Mark.
So here describes some reason and I can start to understand and particular mellow.
So here it says that when some reaches Bhava, they start to realize their particular mellow. As we rise through the eight steps to Baba.
What the Dogga says like climbing a staircase.
Bhakti Vinod Thakur says that it's like climbing a staircase to Prema.
Baba is also known as Roti.
Baba is also known as Roti.
Roti, that's.
Rati is a step before Prema.
So one they're already connected to Krishna and some mellow, that mellow is exactly suited to them.
So if one is connected to Krishna in a particular mellow, that mellow is exactly suited to them.
That's the happiness that everyone hopes to get.
That's the happiness that everyone hopes to get.
It's not available.
But it's not available in the material world.
It's not available devotional service.
Except if you do devotional service as you go up the step when you are taking initiation, it's Bhajana Kriya, getting rid of the Anarthas. Anartha Nivriti and then Nishta Ruchi, Asakti. Asakti and finally it's Bhava.
So that is a step up.
That's a step up. And then from there on there are different levels of Prema in the exhibits in the TOVP that we are planning there is first floor, second floor, third floor and fourth floor.
The east R allows is a segue. A segue to the next floor in each floor.
In the last exhibit, you'll get a segue to go to the next floor. So Bhava is the sideway to Prema.
I don't know how to sew it. I don't know how. I say it all the time.
What segue? You know anyone of you know, what's that seikway? Oh, it's a transition.
Transition?
Yeah. From the first floor to the second floor, the last portion of the exhibit is a sequoia. So from the third to the fourth, the last exhibit is the sequoia. So that makes you rise up. That makes you to see the next flow. You want to rise up. All right.
Any question, I don't know the class is sweet or not, whether.
I don't know whether the class is sweet tonight, but the prasad is sweet. That's a nice one. Okay. Your class was supremely sweet, Guru Maharaj. Because I was talking about Krishna Leela. Leela and Chaitanya Leela.
Okay, any questions?
Any questions? I don't know. Because she was speaking in Bengali. Couldn't get that.
So.
No, they want you to speak. They want you to speak in Bengali.
Krishna. Not every language.
Krishna. He knows every language.
Even the language of the birds.
Even the language of the birds.
Tell the lion get lost.
He told the lion to get lost.
You can't tell that.
Oh, you can't tell the lion to get lost. Sorry.
He could do that.
But he could do that. Someone asked. Someone asked me in Malaysia. I mean Gur Maharaj. Does he know Tamil?
Yes, yes.
Yes. He knows every language much. Thank you.
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