20250426 - First Stream — Vātsalya Rati (Parental Love)

This is a transcript of a Krishna-consciousness class (YouTube livestream) led by Guru Maharaj with devotees participating. The main doctrinal portion reports and comments on passages from Bhakti literature (Bhakti-samrta-sindhu and Srila Prabhupada’s translations) about Anubhavas and Satvika transformations — how counterfeit or genuine ecstatic symptoms manifest and the technical stages (Dhumaitha/smoking, Jwalita, Dipta, Udipta, Su-dipta). The speakers give examples (including Lord Chaitanya, Bhakti Siddhanta Sarasvati Thakur, and Srila Prabhupada) and warn against sham ecstasy. The session closes with detailed announcements from the Guru Maharaj virtual book table listing many devotees and exact counts of Bhagavad Gita and small-book donations, and reminders about Gadadhar Pandit’s appearance day and prayers for devotees’ wellbeing.
Questions this video answers
Gadadhar Pandit's appearance day (celebration/Abhishekam planned).
724 Bhagavad Gita
850.
Wow. So what challenges are you having during this month?
So what challenges are you having during this month? Chanting every day. Chanting Hare Krishna every day. Cutting on pilak. Okay. Every day it's something different. They have one day. You have to write something for something to Krishna and then sing something. Sing Ketan dance. What's for today?
So. Oh, you have a lot of violence dance.
So what do you have on Shrigadar Pandit's appearance which is tomorrow. So tomorrow there is an afternoon festival in the temple for the community devotees. What's that? Okay. They would chant slokas together for the pleasure of Sri Sri Panchatatwa. Anyone here who's participating in the challenge? Bengali translation. Anyone here who's participating in the challenge? Oh, okay. No one. Guru Maharaj. You all got new people? Mostly it's half. Half shila. Guru Maharaj. 50. 50.
House.
Yeah. Half. Half. So they're out of the half? Half. I'll tell.
You.
Okay.
I hope so.
This.
This the one? This the one. Okay. Quotation from Bhakti Samrita Sindhu 2.3.89 When a hard hearted person practices exhibiting the Satvika B without even a touch of emotion, the appearance of tears or other symptoms is called the Nishatva. Quotation from bhaktira samruta Sindhu 2.3.89. The translation of Srila Prabhupada's translation for the above mentioned verse. Sometimes it is found that a non devotee who has practically no taste for Krishna and who follows no rules or regulations can by practice make a show of devotional symptoms, even crying in an assembly of devotees. No, no. Yeah, yeah. I read that though there is no necessity of describing Satvika Babas, a clue has been given to clearly ascertain the real Satvika Bhava bhakti Vasamita Sindhu 2.3.96 a quotation translation of Srila Prabhupada for the above mentioned verse. Although there is no need to describe these reflections of ecstatic love, Vipa Goswami gives some instances where there is no actual devotional service and such expressions are manifested. These are called Satvika transformations. Okay, I am continuing Bhakti Nathakur Again. These are called satvika transformations. Some have also included them among Anubhava subordinate ecstasy. The reason for differentiation Is that previously mentioned 13 Anubhavas arise by relying on one specific limb. Satvika transformation on the other hand, pervades the entire being and manifests outwardly external agitation. Is Anubhava and internal agitation is Bhava. Since Satvika transformations contain both types, their status as Anubhava and Bhava is established. These eight types of Satvika bhavas manifest in various degrees such as Dhomaita, smoking, Juhalita, lighted, dipta blazing, Udipta, inflamed, Prabhupada's translation for the above mentioned verse. These are sometimes checked by the devotee. And there are two stages such as checking, technically known as Dhumaitha and Jwalita. Dhrumayita smoking stage is exhibited when only one or two transformations are slightly present and it is possible to conceal them. When more than two or three transcendental transformations are manifest and it is possible to conceal them although with great difficulty. That stage is called Jwalita. Am I too fast whilst I am reading? Okay, I will go slower. When four or five symptoms are exhibited, the Dipta blazing stage has been reached. When five, six or all eight symptoms are simultaneously manifest, that position is called uditypta inflamed. When all eight symptoms are multiplied a thousand times and all visible at once, the devotee is in Su Dipta intensely inflamed stage.
Lord Chaitanya was sometimes famous Sudipta manifestation.
Lord Chaitanya was sometimes in the Sudipta manifestation.
I mean whatever manifestation he was in, either the very intense.
Whatever manifestation he would be in, it would be very intense.
We went some program only we didn't yet have a permanent temple in Kolkata.
So we went to some program. We didn't get to have a permanent temple in Kolkata. We didn't have a permanent temple in Kolkata.
So when we were there suddenly the host started acting like oh Krishna, you're here.
So when we were there suddenly the host started acting Krishna, you are here.
I think that Krishna come and they said oh, he'll come to my house. I feel so what you call it.
As Pandemon or what? Or he was acting, oh Krishna, you have come to my house. Oh.
But devotees were present. They didn't feel that he was really feeling those things.
But the devotees present, they didn't feel that he was really feeling those things. Seeing those things.
And then they started to leave and.
Then they start to leave and.
Almost left. Then.
When everybody almost left his ecstasy also almost left. Also left. Sorry.
Actor on stage.
So he's an actor on stage.
This is why people are on a smoking level.
So that's why people on the smoking level they might. They are completely bogus.
But so you meet people like this.
So you meet people like this.
So they Try to rush you by exhibiting ecstasy.
They would try to impress you by exhibiting ecstasy.
That's why our cryas try to hide it.
That's why our cryas tried to hide it.
They didn't want to just exhibit as some kind of actor.
They didn't want to exhibit as some kind of actor.
So we heard about the sedan.
A.
Couple times he had to leave a class because he couldn't control his ecstasy.
So we heard that Bhakti Siddhanta Sarsati Thakur Prabhupada he couple of times he had to leave the class because he couldn't control his ecstasy.
Disappearance day and.
Avasla Prabhupada here in Mayapur on Bhakti Siddhanta Sasati Thakur's disappearance day.
I forgot what the particular thing he said.
I I forgot what the particular thing he said.
One dynamite said that Brahman wanted to contribute something to Mayapur.
So one time Srila Prabhupada said that he wanted to contribute something to Sridhar.
Mayapur because all the previous Acharyas did something for Mayapur.
Because all the previous Acharyas did something for Mayapur.
All he wanted to do and then he said he wanted to do it. He started crying and he said that.
He wanted to do something and he started crying.
I told so many examples previously.
So I told that so many times previously.
Other examples.
Sorry. Sorry Gurmaj. I told other examples previously. Even if these transformations are observed in some individuals, they should not be considered satvika. In such cases, those transformations will be considered as Rati abhasa semblance of rati Sattva abhasa semblance of sattva Nisatva without sattva O pratipa inimical Rati abbasa semblance of rati. The pulaka and ashur tears of those who worship God for liberation arise from rati abbasa. Semblance of rati. Joy and astonishment without reason arise in the hearts of those whose hearts are weak.
I was outside the class but I heard the class. I forget one time.
I was outside the class but I heard the class later on but I forgot.
And one lady said I want liberation.
And one lady said I want liberation.
No, she said right emotionally.
No, she's and she said it very emotionally.
So you can see that the danger is that you can get alliteration.
You can see that the danger is you can get liberation.
Get some sentiment or some semblance.
You get some sentiments or some semblance of rati.
So as I think there's another one to say I saw. Someone said that here it says we're not supposed to desire liberation.
Someone said here it says that we are not supposed to desire liberation.
Here it also says about liberation.
But here it also says about liberation.
So the Lord is never accept Sahaja Muti devotees.
They would never accept Sahaja, Mukti.
And if it includes seva to the rain version of Godhead and then I accept the other realms, all the range.
If it includes seva or service to the supreme personality of Godhead, then they may accept other types of mukti. Sadh, Sattva, basa, semblance of Satrap. The transformations arising from these semblances are Sattva basa without Sattva. For those whose minds are slippery.
Slippery mind. Horrible thing.
It's a horrible thing. Slippery mind. Those who are habitually manifest transformations like stamba, stunt, pulaka and Ashur. The Pulaka and Ashur Nisatva without Sattva. Okay.
So for some reason these are non die.
For some reasons these are mentioned by Bhakti, Vinod, Thakar.
Allah, Sajalas, Mir, Sadda.
Other things there are Abbas, Rati, Abbas Sattva, Abbas, Nisatva and other things.
So we can understand that some people do this as a cheating.
So some people do this as a cheating. As a cheating. Sorry.
See, I don't practice devotional service. I write regular principles and so on.
You see, they don't practice devotional service. They break regulatory principles and so on.
So like this, their minds may be slippery.
Like their minds may be slippery.
What a thing.
What a thing.
A silly thing. You can't grab it, can't hold it. Can't even control it.
Slippery thing. You can't grab it. You can't hold it.
So if your mind is slippery, you think of all kinds of weird things.
If your mind is sleepy, it thinks about all kinds of weird things.
So like Lord Chaitanya said we should avoid the weeds.
Like Lord Chaitanya, he said we should avoid the weeds. But.
For some strange reason, someone may desire Lord Batista.
So for some strange reason, someone may desire for Love, Batista, Puja, etc. He.
Allegedly manifests symptoms like stamma pulaga.
So he might habitually manifest symptoms like stamba, pulaka and ashu.
Stamba means stunned. Pulaka means hair standing on end, Stumbling tears.
Stamba means stunned. Pulaka means hair standing on end. Ashra means tears. The last line says the pulaka, Ashur and arni Satwa without Sattva. So they are not real Pratipa inimical. Those who are perversions. Sorry. Those whose perversions manifest in opposition to Bhagavan. Their transformations are called pratipa inimical. All these are insignificant. This mention of semblance of truth is necessary for the Satvika virtuous people to discern between truth and falsehood. There is no further benefit from this. Okay, so Gurmaj, we are finished with Anubhavas. So the next topic is we have Achary Bhavas. So would like to continue with that or it's going to be 8:15 in a few seconds.
So you have now after this comes the transitory ecstasy.
So now after this comes the transitory ecstasy.
These are like those five style permanent ecstasies.
So these are like five Thai Bhavas permanent ecstasy.
These are. Chances are these are.
These are transitory ecstasy.
I guess Thai la may be being a tran of Hrishna.
Sai Baba is like maybe being a friend of Krishna.
Joking with Sajaya.
So Bhavachari Baba. These are like joking with Krishna and so on like that.
So that holds hostile tomorrow.
So we will discuss that tomorrow.
Any questions today?
Any question? Not for today. Ladies man, Ladies men. Tomorrow's dialysis. No questions please. Nothing. Guru Maharaj, I don't have my phone with him. Send it to him or me. She has his number, Gurmaj. Okay.
Dear Guru Maharaj, please accept my ob senses to you how to stop pretending in spiritual life and not wanting to seem better than we are.
We're trying to please Krishna.
So we are trying to please Krishna.
Not trying to show off.
We are not trying to show off.
Hundred people think oh she's very advanced.
Even if hundred people think oh she's very advanced. Oh he's very advanced.
What's the use?
What's the use?
Krishna knows.
Krishna knows what you are, what do you are.
And so better take a humble position.
So it's better to take a humble position.
No, no, no. Two more.
Okay, that's the channel for question. Any question please drop it there. Devotees wishing you Hare Krishna glorifying you. Tomorrow is God appearance day. You want to say something about.
Radarani and Krishna combined and warned Hajdana Radharani.
And Krishna they combine and form Lord Chaitanya.
So Lord Chaitanya has the qualities of Radharani.
Lord Chaitanya has the qualities of Radharani.
And so like Radharani has stolen the Lalas. Radharani was her best qualities stolen by Lord Jejuna.
Radharani's best qualities were stolen by Lord Chaitanya.
One time Radharani was saying that how she liked to be male partner.
So one time Radharani was saying how she likes to be in a male.
Form so that she got a subject with Vishnu raw daylight.
So she could associate with Krishna in.
Front of broad daylight.
Broad daylight. Okay. So. So in Kadadar she had this opportunity.
So very exotic form.
So Godaddar is a very esoteric form. Yeah, it's a good exercise. Koti. Koti. Koti Pranam. Guru Maharaj. Folded hand. Folded hand. Folded hand. Folded hand. Yeah, it's from the chat.
Hare Krishna.
Hare Krishna. That's like pronoun.
Heart Prana.
Hare Krishna Shila. Guru Maharaj Pranams. Heart Pranams is all the same thing. Please bless all of them. We can go for dinner for all the people here, all the people online. Goodman. No question. She didn't send any question. Hare Krishna. Is anybody leaving tomorrow? Is anybody leaving tonight or tomorrow morning? Anyone leaving?
Anybody living? Dear fortunate devotees, welcome to Guru Mahraj virtual book table. There's no physical book table there. So tomorrow is Gadadar Pandit's appearance day. As Guru Maharaj reminded, we'll be celebrating it. There will be Abhishekam in our temple and in the Guru Maharaj virtual book table. Today we have Matureswari Mohini devidasi from Mayapur. 2 Bhagavad Gita Pralai Deshmukh from Surat 6 Bhagavad Gita Mausmi Day from Kolkata. 20 Bhagavad Gita Shamoli Sao from Hooghly 1 Chaitanya Charitamruta Set Bhagavati Harini Devidasi from Bangalore 11 Bhagavad Gita Pala Jagannathas from Rakhal Kanyadesh 320 Bhagavad Gita Pulak Gharami from Kuwait 8 Bhagavad Gita Prema Prakash Gaurdas from UK 76 Bhagavad Gita and 152 small books. Apurva Anand from Singapore 4 Bhagavad Gita Ajay Kutti from Midnapur 4 Bhagavad Gita Sarva Bhandita Radha Devidasi from Malda 11 Bhagavad Gita Radha Jeevana Krishnadas from Mathuradesh 197 Bhagavad Gita Poli Ghoshal from Nadia 2 Bhagavad Gita Purushottam Gopal Das from Assam 76 Bhagavad Gita Mintu Das from Mathura Desh 6 Bhagavad Gita Subamai Vrajesh Das from Balaram that's 108 Bhagavad Gita Manjari Krishna Sevini Devidasi from Puri 21 Bhagavad Gita Vinodini Gaurangi Devidasi from Assam 2 Bhagavad Gita Mamata Purna Sachi Devidasi from Assam 76 Bhagavada Gita Siddha Gauranga Das from Avatari Desh 20 Bhagavad Gita Saman Das from Hooghli 3 Bhagavad Gita Madhusudan Chaitanya Das from Asant Soul 3 Bhagavad Gita Shyamanga Keshavadas from Mumbai 76 Bhagavad Gita Veera Govinda Das from Mumbai 724 Bhagavad Gita Shailendranath from Nepal 5 Bhagavad Gita Bahu Karuna Nithai Das from Krishna Kathadesh 4 Bhagavad Gita Prahlad Halder from Kolkata 2 Bhagavad Gita Sudasi Dardas from Mayapur 51 Bhagavad Gita Dinesh Bandari from Bhardwan 2 Bhagavad Gita Janavi Venkatesha from Bangalore 119 Bhagavad Gita Suresh were Nimaidas from Assam 1 Bhagavad Gita Lakshmi Radha Navidasi from Uttaradesh 76 Bhagavad Gita Amrita Sri Rupa Devidasi from Andhra Pradesh 11 Bhagavad Gita Sri Rupa Ranga Devi Devidasi from Delhi 136 Bhagavad Gita Kalyan Sundar Mithya from Madura 11 Bhagavad Gita Arga Gyan from Haldiya 11 Bhagavad Gita Purnima Datta from Nadia 4 Bhagavad Gita Radhika Premi Devidasi from Balram Des 10 Bhagavad Gita Sumitra Ruidas from Bhavan 1 Bhagavad Gita Moharupa Govas from Shamadesh 91 Bhagavad Gita Murali Manohar Das from Mathuradesh 376 Bhagavad Gita Vishaka Dasi from Utar Dinajpur 2 Bhagavad Gita Vishak Ghosh from Surat 5 Bhagavad Gita we have our Nite Savage Balachandra Chana, vinita Gandharvika, Bala Brinda 12 small works in the last three days from Kasadesh devotees We have Toshan Krishnadas 2 Bhagavad Gita Chaitanya Prayasi, Devidasi and her family, 3 Bhagavad Gitas and 10 small books Li an and family 3 Bhagavad Gitas & 10 small books Yugala Devidasis who write 10 Gitas Dominique Devidas and her family 3 Bhagavad Gita & 30 small books Padmaja Devidasi 1 Bhagavad Gita & 10 small books this is exactly as per Srila Prabhupada instruction to Srila Guru Maharaj and what Guru Maharaj needs it's one is to ten ratio and these devotees are consistently maintaining this service on a daily basis wherein Guru Maharaj is supposed to contribute 1:10 ratio, 10,000 Mahabhar and 100,000 small books every month. It's a monthly contribution and here the devotees are giving a daily contribution by being a wonderful exemplary example and a role model for all of us to follow. Thank you Shashank Koti Krishnadas from USA 6 so small book in the last 3 days Srila Prabhupada Transcendental Book Distribution Ki Jai Also these devotees get a special Narasimha Puja in a few hours from now in Sridharmapur and all of you devotees also please bless them by calling out Nitaiga Auranga Nitaiga Ranga thank you and please pass on these wonderful opportunities in participating Guru Maharaj Pastime of distribution of books as per Srila Prabhupada's instruction even if it's a single Bhagavad Gita and 10 small books please do WhatsApp to Guru Mahraj virtual book table plus 919-434-760402 and stay tuned for tomorrow. Yes tomorrow's Lord Chaitanya class and let's do an intense prayer for Guru Mura's speedy and full recovery today he had dialysis and of course our prayers include for all those who are celebrating their anniversaries today for their well being and blissful Krishna consciousness. Please join me in the prayers. Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hari thank you very much.
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