#JayapatakaSwamiArchives 2002 || Malaysian Tour [Part - 6] #JayapatakaSwamiArchives

This transcript is from a 2002 Malaysian tour talk (YouTube video) featuring Jaya Pataka Swami with Sam and Sukhadev. Speakers discuss the spiritual and practical importance of festivals like Ratha-yatra for preaching and devotional exchange; the moods of devotion (parental Vatsalya vs. reverential worship); the necessity of administrative care for ISKCON (legal registrations, local management, protecting devotees from Maya); and the importance of youth programs and pastoral encouragement to sustain long-term devotional commitment.
Sam, it's Ram.
It is a very auspicious festival which is very pleasing to human. In the beginning days of this song.
America.
And immediately became very popular and successful. Of course, the Prabhupa had a promise for Ra since his childhood. As a child would often dream of going to P to see the Ra. And every year he would build take a roth park and celebrate radiate. He discovered it was a very successful way of preaching. And we know in India, in Jagadh Puri. This festival attracts millions of people in the nectar below. Salami mentions that one of the types of Baki is to celebrate festivals of the Lord. This is one type of devotional service. Either one. And of course, any kind of devotional service, whether it's carrying or worshiping. Oral festival is to please the Lord. Festivals for praising the Lord. But it is also for spreading the glories of the Lord. Therefore, in the scriptures there is always a rule that for the deity at least once a year a duty must go up on a car around the city me and glorify or to a publicize his glory. All of the temples have a Rama. Every year they will go all around and give Dharma of the Lord. Why that is so important? We do not actually say it. You cannot actually say explain why it's bigger. But we can speculate perhaps that because of the wonderful form of Yogananda. This is why we come to frank. When people participate in then they get a very special spiritual truth. Therefore, people keep coming to the race. Similarly, around the world Islam celebrating mafia Canada, South America and all over Asia, Australia. And this testimony traffic to everyone. Therefore, it was very powerful means of increasing our own entry for the service and also for attracting others.
So every year.
And also it's very beneficial for these citizens of this. So I will hope that in the future we continue this and increase the.
Number of devotees and number of.
It.
We now call upon the president of the span Malaysia.
The solid Sa Sam Jam Ra Ra Sam. So you learn or leave various descriptions and words. Festival have three straights of as. But I would like to say that we have to be here again at.
After that the.
Run of the having the all the ladies. J is sometimes very lucky, sometimes very easy. One time J became so heavy that nobody will kill it.500 then they have elephants and elephants. They didn't know what to do. Doesn't want to move. He doesn't move. When I cut everyone put the ropes down. Then Lord went behind each with no head. Angry he went down. He put his hand and he Pushed to his head and I tell you were rushing forward and the wheels were leaving a loud sound and there's a song the children he accepts the devotional womb of the soul that goes is accepted by the Lord Lord and with that the Lord simple things. As we approach the Lord in devotion offering service he reciprocates of that have to rule for anyone but he rules for his holy he tied a lot but mother is not a tiny because of love. When she went to tie in with a rope as a small child Every time she went to tie the rope was two feet again she went along the row trying to cry it was two fingers too short. So the great sages and she wanted to know why Two things why? One reason was that Krishna's free will. Secondly, Krishna is always ill intended but sometimes by law he allows himself to be tied down because he was the first himself he's approaching the Lord as a devotee and in that loving mood the Lord telling us going forward give your love, give your surrender as so this is a great opportunity because we get to be legal servants of the Lord and who how does it feel the horse of the Lord how does it feel? Who likes to p. You see brother, this is. He's right there the chariot and everyone is pulling in but we're having so much fun that we like to pull. I think Malaysia is a special place because here there are more rapids La so this is a very special place. We're talking about March the like that during our life we should also by hearing all these instructions doing what he says people this way also to pulling j by pulling his instruction. I wanted to say one thing conclusion. I wanted to say one thing that we have lots of young people participating in natural and lots of young people who are participating in Krishna transitions all over the country Then now we will know I was there. In England they have a program for the young people called this wreck started many years ago when China closed down the Hare Krishna temple from the public and all the youth around the uni they marched in public and they made demonstrations and they were very active to protect the temple. Now I got permission from the government.
And everything is peaceful.
And it's a youth group of all the Mashta young people, children of the homies and other young people who are practicing each and Every.
Probably from 12.
Years of age up to 30, 29 or so people are members of the and they have different popular Seika groups and they meet together and they help young people to be engaged in Krishna service. I was thinking that this kind of program will be very useful. Also in Malaysia there are a lot of young people for the program for association and other young people. I just wonder what you thought, brother. You thought this would be a good program. Here in Malaysia they have a new group program that we come with the city. The part important for the boys and the girls they have. They have a program. How do you think this would be a good idea? Okay, we got a lot of how many of you participate in such a program. So I'll discuss this international executive here in Malaysia and see what we can do to give our parents give our own nations pilot organized which can do a lot of nice services of this time. Encourage the youth and youthful program. Sapasalto nama sa La Sam.
Ram.
Sam Ram. There Dad.
Hari Krishna Krishna.
Sa.
Sam. Translation by his divine grace Iskand Pomegranate charity But Sudein said. My Lord, you are the supreme person beyond material existence. And you are the super soul. Your form can be perceived by transcendental knowledge by which you can be understood as the supreme personality of God. I now understand your position perfectly, my Lord. My Lord, you are the supreme person beyond material existence. You are the supersoul. Your form can be perceived by transcendental knowledge. Your form can be perceived by transcendental knowledge by which it can be understood by which you can be understood the supreme personality of God. I now understand your position perfectly. I now understand the within Vasudeva's heart, affection for his son and knowledge of the Supreme Lord's transcendental nature both awakened in the beginning was to be taught such a beautiful child has been born but no concert will come and kill him. But when he understood that this was not an ordinary child but his supreme personality of Godhead, he became fearless. Fearless regarding his son as the supreme Lord. Wonderful in everything. He began offering prayers appropriate for the Supreme Lord. Completely free of fear of comes as atrocities. He accepted the child simultaneously as an object of affection and as an object of worship by parents. 3rd chapter 13th verse in the matter of the birth of Lord Sri Krishna. So this is most wonderful realization.
Master.
They had he gained transcendental knowledge with the realized the supreme personality of God. First he thought this was his son and he was just a worrying and howl. How will he be protected from the atrocities of Kamsa? Now Kamsa will come. I'll have to hand him over to Kamsa as I promised. And then Kamsa will kill him in this lane. Actually Bosudei was feeling very very bad. But now he's realized that his Son is the supreme personality of God Bhagawan he is the all party, that supreme Lord and so now he has become fearless. He has become fearless. He has become fearless. We worship the supreme personality of Gaga Krishna also so we can become fearless. Become fearless Knowing the protection of the.
Lord.
Vasudev was a devotee. He knew that Krishna could never be harmed. Bhagavan is transcendental to the material nature. So material problems and material harm. Don't touch this. His heart was fully transcendent. Once he realized that he was feeling very very determined, very nervous As a mother, she's still feeling a little bit.
Purple.
Over a sense of Just like Devaki was very careful we should also be right there, very cautious for protecting our Ka consciousness we should protect our Ka consciousness Like Devaki loves who they want to protect their son. So now Vatsuddeh, when you realize it's the supreme Lord you start offering prayers. So Vasudev Sivanandama, he doesn't know Krishna's God. He just takes care of Krishna as his son because today he has to know the Lord is the Lord Otherwise.
He can.
So many bad times can happen. He has to take Lord Krishna over to the Nagamaraj and Stavilis he has to be villas. So many things are there so all these things are perfect. Need to know that Krishna is the Lord. He just thinks this is my son and he enjoys the childhood pest. Childhood pest. I mean the parents have to sometimes hold the child sometimes instructing the child sometimes bringing the child here and there. You think that if I don't feed my child the child is going to die? If I don't watch the child, the child sometimes arm Kriya. Right Raj? So if you think that child is in war, all omniscient, all powerful then how can you feel that he is dependent on your care? It'd be very disruptive for Vatsalya Ras to know your son is God and no father.
Give us.
Like the parents are always watching their children. Father and mother taking turns never letting their child untended. For our second yesterday, two days ago in Penang we were sitting there and one child ran out into the street and we pointed out look at shells in the street and the tags are from space and they have to run and get the child. Maharaj was very observant but if you thought the child was a big warrior then I would. It's like Superman, right?
So.
The fun of taking care of the Lord is there because they think he's depended on me. He's my Ward I have to protect him. So in that rasa they don't know that wardens Lord that's why he was so big he couldn't join the childhood pastimes he wasn't the right he had to follow lords of there.
Still somehow.
He'S feeling affection and he's feeling respect is also kind of something unusual I mean have parental affection at the same time respect so it's a little inhibited but it's their boat he's feeling very much affectionate giving you my son and it's so beautiful such a wonderful child at the same time this reward of his he's offering these beautiful prayers Usually it's more enjoyable when the devotees just offer spontaneous devotion without okay but he gets more happiness when the devotee treats him like Krishna.
Sit down.
Somebody's telling me what to do Somebody's it's all the time he's watching him. He's telling everybody what to do. He's organizing so that the warrior on love is caring for him, taking care of him that gives him some special so now he's offering prayers and he'll be offering prayers for a number of verses to say maybe this is verse 1, verse 3 until verse 13 up to verse 23, 10 verses he's offering glory Then Sukhadev gives a little introduction and then they look offers this is very much a trigger concept going on offering prayers and they look into the.
Worried.
Demons that come here are my son.
She.
And then she always prayes she said you feel that you're invisible Additionally you're invisible so for those who have materialized but you are visible I'm worried about the simple Kamsa let's find out which of the birth of my.
Wound.
They wanted him to take a human form so she can hide him somewhere.
Sa.
Prophet said although Devaki is not on the Vrindavan platform she is near the Vrindavan platform. On the Vrindavan platform mother of Krishna is loving a soda and on the Mathura Baraka platform the mother of Krishna's nave akin In Mathura the love for the Lord is mixed with appreciation of his eyes opulence but in Vrindava the opulence of the Lord is not exhibited. The opulence of the supreme personality is not here it's not exhibited opulence or majesty there it's just kept very simple like a coward. For him he's a cowboy for him explaining the Swayam Bhubha the many and you were known as Christine and Master Veda was known as Sutapa it tells how she was benedicted one of the sun. Exactly like being the answer sound exactly like you. There's nobody exactly like Krishna other than Krishna. So Krishna somebody saw how Prabhupada he took his service to the ISKCON movement. He also took care that ISKCON was just like a small child. He was always concerned about it. He was caring for it and protecting it. He said. Sometimes I remember sitting in a room one time he was sitting there, he had his head, his head looked at me. To develop what it was like to manage worldwide spiritual movement. The Prabhupada was taking so much headache to protect the Ka Conscious movement. So now the headache has to be taken by the other leaders, the JIBCs Sannyasis. Like this morning, I respect the gentleman. Our presidents, regional secretaries, senior devotees. You see that the movement goes on. The profile's legacy is preserved. This is also like protecting the baby. I woman is also kind of like a baby. Needs to be watched, needs to be cared for. You see that things are going on. All of a sudden some senior devotees start having some argument. Things get disrupted. These things happen without expectation. Just like the bamboos hit each other in the wind and cause fire. So this kind of disturbances awesome Maya happening. Somebody might be falling into some kind of influence of Maya. Always keep the eyes open and help protect our devotees. Take the moment. The prophet said that this iskambhura was his body. It's also taking care of the movement. It's like taking care of doing some bapu seva sudden drawb. Maybe it is his heart. He scans his body and the money is his blood. Different things. He said like that. So we're caring for the Islam movement. It's one service we can do for shalom. To make it healthier, to make it stronger, to make the movement stronger, to make it work. I wanted it to be my ascertain. We're finding out good in some ways. What are defects, what are weaknesses. I have to work on it and through it so that we don't remain under influence of any kind of Maya. Kali is there. To always attack our movement and keep it going for 10,000 years requires some constant care. It's not going to happen without any concern. Sometimes the devotees, they get upset. They say, why are there so many tests? Why are there so many challenges? But this is part of growing. It's like a parent expects that there's going to be so many things going to happen to the child. You have to expect that as this child grows there will be so many different Things which are going to happen. We just have to also grow with that and take care of different challenges that come up. Today in India, the Bangalore case comes before the Supreme Court for final arguments. If anyone would like to say a little prayer that please feel a favorable dissolve further urgentness we can get a ready solution to this problem will be welcome. Sometimes unexpected problems come. Eventually some solutions come. Chennai got exhibition models, but they also got lamps. This temple had here. KL had a permission for worship in 1987, but then it lapsed. Nobody even heard it. They have to be always little details, you know, like what the laws are in which place local management has become very alert. Technically we don't have the things we found in the Lima, Peru. They have a registration as a religion. But according to the law you have to somehow read recognize we renew it every year or two. They also helped renew it. Then came and realized that it wasn't being renewed like in America. Once in registry it's for life, you don't have to renew it. But some places they have renewal closets just to create more bureaucracy or something. I don't know why they once you're born right after New York. But anyway, I don't know all these details. Someone may say this is all mundane. I want to just chant. I don't want to bother with all these things. But for preaching we have to do these things. It's part of our seva. Just like a parent has to do for their children. We have to do for the movement. Whether we're a Sagati or Brahmachari or whether Lihasa for all these things. Of course I can Chopa be organized that all the Vihasta committee they took responsibility for all these kind of things and left the Brahmacharyas for kitchen. The Jihastids come forward and take that type of responsibility. I don't think the Brahmacharis will complain. Has to be that desire. I'm taking so much headache from my family. Let me take some headache for Krishna. I'm taking so much trouble for my material life. Let me take some trouble for Krishna. This is seva and in the childhood Leela and Krishna you see that the parents they're always trying to protect themselves. They Krishna protects himself, but the parents think that I have to protect himself.
Same way.
Although we have to protect this guy from so many challenges. Actually Krishna protects it. This is not different from Krishna. But we have a past time that we have to do it. We have to go through the motions of protecting it. Somehow things work out by Krishna's mercy. So these are interesting testaments to see how the parents of Krishna now these are. But today we can understand there's two kinds of parents. Vrindavan parents and Mathura advark. Somebody asks why Rasadev didn't have a childhood. Now you can understand because his parent who also appreciates the opulence of the Supreme Court. For none of them are just soda. They don't have any understanding about opulence and the supreme Lord. They just love Krishna as their baby, as their child, as their son. No opulence. So that's the Vrindavan mood. And this other is the Torah and Brahman mood. This is the subligence. That's why there's two sets of double book heads. And Asura and Rayan wood devotee was worshipping Krishna as reverence. She has both motherly affection, personal respect. In the boshing where you sort of notice no idea of opulence of Krishna. Only the loving like child, mother and child. It's the Vrindavan mood. Anybody feel of Vrindavan. They're not existent. But Krishna is God and he's got all the opulence of power. They like the sweetness of ka natural sweet beauty.
Yes.
Prophet said that there's so many cancel anxiety. So we have to pick up any other questions. Krishna Bala is raising and lowering his hand. So how would I know he wants to answer questions those lowering and always reaching.
And there.
After a couple of years they leave. They are very strong.
If.
You'Re in the spiritual path, you feel desires, you start to leave. So you don't want to go halfway and stop. Jana Karamba says that that the disease death and fire in the house should be completely finished. Put it all the way out. If you have a debt and don't pay, start to build up again. Pretty soon you find again I got a big difference. So like that disease. If you have a disease, if you don't fully cure it again, you're a little careless. It can come back again, relapse. So they are only in the purity states. They're not free cured. They have to fully cure and they'll be fully safe. They only went partial aid and I got pillaged again bad association of incident. And then again the disease that I faced. So we cannot be proud that I'm doing my devotional service now for 14 months and 13 days. And therefore I'm already in my prayer. Hamza. I've been doing it for three years, 27 weeks until we get to the final back to Gadget a slow relaxation. It's like when you're flying. We have some Air Cab Airlines veterans here and employees in our movement say the flight is going from Paul Loved one to Los Angeles. So when should the plane let down? Halfway or all the way. Why not take a little rest and do that in the Pacific Ocean? They're going Halloween, they want to take a baby.
What is it?
You can't. There's no halfway. You have to go all the way. Remind moment the ocean of birth and death here to completely. You get to the other side, then you end, then you're okay. Some people they met somehow they don't have that determination. They say prabhupada. We consider Sometimes someone says, look at this new devotee is very enthusiastic, very fired up. Prabhupada would say, you know, like that, okay. But he took it more important who was surging longer. Because for a short time you can sprint a little bit and show some enthusiasm. Then have. That could be also by a false or by so many factors that somebody is just showing a little bit of enthusiasm. Whether they'll sustain that, that will depend on their faith, their determination, their commitment. Everything. You see, when you do something in the beginning it's easy because it's all new. So in the beginning people show a lot of enthusiasm because it's something new and exciting. But maybe the lust is there. Krishna says in a sense the mind and intelligence to say that they're getting a lot of appreciation. Maharaj gave them a thick sweet Sinjeshwara said you're the best on Kirta and devotee. Their name was read out in the morning class several times. And they're feeling like the top of the world that they're the best in the whole unit. But then some other sanctifam. The Lord is not doing better. He gets the Maha. Then somebody takes their gamcha. Somebody steals their shoes if something happens and then they start mowing it. Because there a lot of their motivation. They rather than his tour. Some little things happen and then they find that they're depressed. Maybe devotional service not so great after all. Because they're very still, superficially very profound. Whether happiness or distress, whether pain, infamy, all other difficulties or ease. But we're determined to do our devotional stuff. That's the test. Somebody gets through all those stages and they're still enthusiastic. Then we can understand and make sure they're working. Otherwise sometimes things is going easy. That's why we need the test. We have to prove that yes, I'm Going to remain fixed even after sometimes difficult, because life is sometimes difficult. If we don't have that determination, then how do we make it all the way back to Krishna? The time of death is the most difficult. Just like you have sometimes during the war time. You have fire drills and bomb raid drills and things like that just to get people practice. What if there's a bomb, where to go? During the Cold War people have the nuclear bomb shelters and things like that. Now they don't know what the terrorists are. Where the attack can come. The government doesn't want to say. But there's a biological attack. Most of the people, they don't have that. They don't have that. They require billions and billions of billions and knowledge to give everyone this vaccine. For small cops and for all these different types, they're very quietly vaccinating all the government officers and the big police. According to some reports, just telling the people nothing to worry about because everybody makes a mad rush. They don't have that much vaccine and roadmap infrastructure. So some people, they're buying gas masks. What if there's chemical attack in Israel issued everybody gas masks. They're not thinking. They know whatever they have, they can shorten it. So they have gas masks. I don't know if they give them a vaccine or not. Probably they're prepared him. So maybe we have to be more like prepared. This is the dangerous place we're in mature world. So some people, they were doing very good and they're having trouble. We should somehow motor them and parents them for a little. Come on, come back. We are a good devotee. Kindly show them we hear you know how the mind works. I was doing so much service then I just saw what a little bit. Maybe I'm just smoking now or doing this and that, but I'm still in my heart I'm paying devotee with all these people they don't appreciate. Nobody even once called me. Nobody asks me how am I doing. They don't care for me. You know, the mind is always like the mind goes in all these things to follow. Because the mind works like that. Say, Pramu, come on, what happened? Why don't you? You're doing so much service. We need you. Whether they come or not, at least they know. Okay, somebody called, somebody cares because that's how the mind works. We should be so mature that we are determined. All the secretary just leave everything and walk off automatic mode. That's how I lost one camera.
After.
Why you need to learn mentality of people. It should Restart the turbine Whether Guru smiles at me or whether he gives me a cookie or not or whether there was one girl she was so frustrated in Melbourne someone told me she's ready to groove I said why? She said she thinks the guru doesn't love her so then I say I want a guru so then I called her over and said what happened? Oh yeah, I'm going to grow everything Then she confided at one time and those days that Guru Puja she came for the guru puja and somehow I couldn't give her a cookie narration of sometimes so many hands or something somehow I used to give her she thought I purposely didn't give her because I don't love her this happened apparently twice One night I was chilling Jaffa with my eyes half closed and she walked by and she thought that I was a good person so she had convinced herself that actually that actually these things all were like totally unconscious on my side I didn't consciously do any of these things but she was convinced that I no longer love her and wherefore I am so she reached like a People are so sensitive though.
Are just.
Waving and let the guru ask the Chalaboni maybe starting tell the guru told Guru to ask for Shah Devoni.
Now.
The guru the God brothers, the God sisters the temple president so many people if someone doesn't treat them nice and pride that's so tough so we don't know the person nor some kind of what was the reason.
Come back.
I used to chant 16 rounds 8 rounds then stop chanting I believe the parents are going to don't listen to the parents at certain ages I don't have a voodoo by a certain dates and.
Usually.
They fall down pretty easily they don't have feminine support One of the children is chanting 16 year old because she took shelter early the others never took shelter they never changed out so they beat me chanting him at least so now he's like it's a lot of help is needed A lot of interactive people are not so determined they need encouragement they leave a pat in the bag they need some care that's why it's so important Bhakti Kimara encourages everyone to chant here in Malaysia he goes to the house and with them do some seva then they know that he loves him Sometimes hearing offensive things sometimes it's bad association friends sometimes.
Sitting.
At not as a virus but you want to see some people make your patient has got sick and they're go out sometimes and you have to dress that patient backing out otherwise they may get the negatives or thin life disease, some fatal diseases, have little bit of cold, a little bit weak. They're not coming regularly, they're not changing. So you go and get them back into the fire. Otherwise they may need some other representative buying and get some table visit.
Then don't leave. This.
He converted into another half which is not favorable since he asked the.
Question.
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