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Jam. Ram. Ram. Sam. It's Sam. Ram. It's Sam. It's. It's. It's Vaishnav.
You have become a so called.
Learned.
Person as to disobey my order. Because of disobeying me, you shall very soon be bereft of all your opponents. Translation. With repetition, although you have no knowledge, you become a so called earned person. Therefore you dare be so imputed.
As.
A disobey my armor because of disobeying me. Because of disobeying me. Says that Balima Harasha was not from.
Nidama.
Or one who falsely assumes himself learned. Rather he was Pandita Manya Gya. One who is so learned that all other learned persons worship him in San street. The way you combine words, there's certain rules. Like if you combine like here it says Pandita and it's spelled M A N Y A J M A H. Right. So the way that Sukracharya meant it was Pandita Mani Mangi Agna. Someone who thinks he's a pandit but he's actually a fool. But the way that Vishwam Chakravarti, he's dividing it differently. It's actually the word Bhaghita Mahmiyagya. It's all written as one word. It's Sanskrit. It's one composite word. The way that he divides it is Pandita Manya Manya means respected. Was respected by Pandyas and Sadav Manya. So Mani Anya mana y one who's learned, who has knowledge. So sometimes like it says, if someone says something but by Saraswati's arrangement it can have two meanings. So this other meaning is what actually means. Vishumar Shakya Retakura says really disposition of Bali Maharaj. And inadvertently what Sukrahcherry said would be taken on this way as well. So Aktiniya Prabhupada's purport because Bali Maharaj was so learned he could disobey the order of his so called spiritual master, he had no fear of any condition on materially prison. Anyone cared for by Lord Mishnah does not need to care about anyone else. Thus Bali Maharaja could never be bereft of all opulences. The opulences offered by the supreme personality of Nagavi are not to be compared to the opulences obtained by Karma Khanda. In other words, if a devotee becomes very opulent, it is to be understood that his opulence is a gift of the supreme personality of guided. Such opulences will never be vanquished whereas the opulence achieved by one's fruitive activity may be vanquished at any moment. The next three verses don't have any purport, so I'll read those too. Sukindev Goswami continued. Even after being cursed in this way by his own spiritual man, Master Bali Maharaja, being a great personality, never deviated from his determination. Therefore, according to custom, he first offered water to Ramadeva and then offered him a gift of land he had promised. Translation Bali Maharaj's wife, known as Vidyalami, was decorated with a necklace of pearl, immediately came and had a large golden water pot brought there full of water, with which to worship the Lord by washing his feet. Mali Maharaj, the worshipper of Amalgadeva, jubilantly washed the lotus feet of the Lord and then took the water on his head, for that water delivers the entire universe. Okay, less answered like to be done to Swami. Translation and purports for Canto 8, chapter 20, text 15 through 18 so.
The.
Bali Maharaj had so much respect for the Brahmana. The Asuras tend to be more materialistic. But some of the very great Asuras also had a lot of respect for the Brahmin Brahmins. It's like Jara Sanna who agreed to fight with Bhima because he came and said Brahmana and baked. He said, what do you want to do? He said, I want to fight with you.
So.
Bali was technically in the family of Asura because he was also grandson of Prahlad. He was also a devotee Asura and he had been worshipping Vishnu. And by worshipping Vishnu, he had conquered over the universe and defeated his half brother Indra. The Vaityas and the Devas.
Are.
Half brothers. Vaijas are coming from Gita.
And the.
Devas are coming from Aditi. We have two wives of Katsyata Muhi. So the leads demons and Baba are sexually related.
So.
Interesting situation, but they have totally two different natures. This king Bali Maharash, for life they were devoting Vaishnava baitas. So although they maintain many of the Vaitary qualities, but at the same time they worship Krishna. So through worshipping Vishnu and following his guru, he had successfully conquered over the.
Universe.
And displaced Indra. So on Deepi, the Herta Vasya to get her started back out of exile and Bhavanandi as a child who is the Lord himself. And as a result.
Then.
Abraham Ramadevi.
Just came on his own.
This time he just came there and presented himself so then Molly asking what do you want? I'll give you some. Dakshina. So now I just do merciful grounding for you. I only went three steps to my work.
Come on.
I can give you a whole planet. I'm a king of the universe. Or I can give you a whole planet. You're married. I can give you a nice bride. So many things you don't want. Tell me what you want. I don't know what. She'll be greedy. Should want more than what they can handle. Three steps to the lamb is enough. If that's all you want, okay. That's what I'll give you then. Sukha.
Charian.
He scopes out the whole situation. This is not coordinated work. This is Vishnu. And what he can take in three steps will take the whole universe. There'll be nothing less. The mighty disciple who's king of the universe. After a lot of hard work, he got into this position. Now he's king of the universe. He gives me very big Dakshina. If he loses everything, I'm going to be the guru of a pauper. So then he started giving all kinds of weird advice that you should do so very much. It should just equate a promise. But you can just say, look, if you will. There's certain times when promises can be, you know, like overlooked. It's kind of interesting that you guys whether it's kind of okay to tell white lies. Therefore the same case is to say no. Although it is a falsehood, it protects one complete. It draws the compassion of others toward oneself. The poor guy who so be kind. It gives one full facility to collect money from others or for oneself. It is profitable to tell lies in life. Nonetheless, if one always believes that he has nothing, he is condemned. For he is a dead body. While living, while still breathing, he should be killed. If you always lie, man, it's not good. You have to sometime tell the truth. So it says if flattering a woman to bring her under control. The sugar charity of the guru. Are you so beautiful? In choking in a marriage ceremony, they say that finalize the marriage. And they have to say so many things. Because in India, while somebody was married there was no divorce amongst the Hindus. So there's a Gopal Bhar story that.
How.
As soon as the marriage was finalized there's like certain ceremony. Saptepadi or like self. Indeed, among those sutra, once you do this ceremony that means irrevocable. Can't go back now it's finished. So in this, as soon as that was that then the band of the room side started playing a song. We got the better deal. These words here think you're so be pungent. You don't listen to your guru. I curse you to lose everything very soon you're going to lose everything all year after.
So.
If a guru seems consistent.
In.
This case Mamali Sukacharya was telling him to worship Ishna. But when push came to shove, when it looked like it was going to cut into the bottom line of Sukracharya, then Saddam giving absolute instructions. He gave instructions based on what was good for him. So wasn't really acting as the propaganda. Guru is like Purahiti. He works for the benefit of a disciple. Or at least maybe Sukharacharya was thinking he was working for the benefit of a disciple. But from a very materialistic point of.
View because.
That was where Shukracharya was at. He said, as a guru at the time, I remember one time in India it was there were some devotees who were taking this Vidhu Sanjeevani Ayurvedic medicine for their dysentery. And then Prabhupada called me, he said, you know, this is one, this Matusanjeevini is Ayurvedic wine. This Ayurvedic spurious Ayurvedic companies manufacture it to get around having to pay the normal excise duties and taxes you have to pay for liquor. And you can just buy it over the counter as medicine. I said, but the Prabhupada said the medicine was created by Sukhra Sharya. And then Brahma said, yes, he's the Guru of the demons. So then I left Prabhupada. Of course if you're really sick, it's really good for digestion but not to be taken as a tonic. If you have bad digestion then taking a small portion can cure this inferiority. That's why people drink wine because it's good for the one of the reasons for medicine sake, someone really was bad or disintegrated. Maybe it's a one off thing, could be taken but not like a daily tonic. So the demons, they have their own medicines in their own situation. Maya Asura also had some other kind of Nuktu Sanjeevani nectar. Maybe the same or different. I don't know that he used to feed when the Tripur Asura was attacking the demons, fighting the Lord Shiva. But Bali, he stuck to his conviction that I'm going to serve Krishna. Even though he got cursed by his Guru, he made Krishna's Law this week he worshipped him. So Bhakti Siddhanta Sarasa Vitaqua already tells a confidential history. But when it says here Malay Maharaj who put water in the hand of Vishnu, the system was to put three drops of water in the hand. Like if you okay, I'm going to give you the duction that you want, you can take it. So I put the three drops of water in the hand. That's like the sympathetic sign also that okay, it's given, can't take that. So it says that Lord Bhavanande he had a Kawandalu which had a little like a pitcher, it had a little sprout, a spout to pour the water. Sometimes the sadhus carry kamandalus and they have a little spout. They use it for multiple purposes. I don't think we go into all of them here.
So.
Supracharya didn't want this to go through. But he took the form of fire with his mystical power. Although he was such a great mystic and he would change his power form. So he took the form of a fly and he jammed up this spout of the Commandal. So the water wasn't coming out. So the water wasn't coming. Bali was trying to pour it and Baba, they took it back, said well let me just see here, I can fix this. He took that kusa grass from his ascendant. Oh there's something in there.
Pow.
Knocks the fly out. And in doing so he poked out one of the eyes of Sukacharya. So Sukacharya took his human form again. He was blinded when I. So he was very angry with Vishnu for having done that to him. Although later on it says that Sukrij, I apologize that he gave wrong advice. But this is his weakest moment you can say right now. So the Bhakti Salatqa said that because he was blinded later on Khalid approached him after Chaitanya Mahapra's movement was established and flooding the whole world. This is flooding India at that time.
Then he.
Approached the British Harry and said, you've got to help me.
That.
I won't have any planes left in this world. Things go on the way they going everywhere I'll be Vishakha conscious and I won't have any place. So then Sukrishna said, well I owe on to Vishnu after he blinded me in one eye. So I'll help you just to get back at Vishnu So that Sukharacharya incarnated as as Rupa Kali Raj.
Who is.
The founder of the Sahajiya movement. He encouraged people that you don't have to preach, you don't have to practice. All you have to do, just think about. Imagine yourself to be one of the associates of Ka. Talk about intimate rasa topics. You don't have to control your senses best of both worlds. So in this way he introduced Sah.
Chism.
Which effectively deviated Raj Chaitanya's movement for some hundreds of years. So that's why Shiv Bhakti Siddhartha said when we see who advised his disciples not to get into this situation, not to give up the principle of paradiseary jives. I hate to vagina Shapri something. Just go and think that by discussing confidential subject matters that you've already achieved. Everything is immediately until you're purified. And the best way of getting purified, I prefer the purified souls. So they like to preach. They want to help other souls to get liberated from this material bondage.
So. So.
That'S the kind of connection between sukra charadis past thing and our own. We're still dealing with the Sukacharya's followers in the form of Sahajas. Sahaja means chi. Just take it really chi easy. No purification. Just immediately trying to go into the internal relationships of Ragakrishna. This is a very heavy verse actually because throughout the Vedas it always says something they should never reject. Your guru should always follow the Guru. But here's the exception.
It's important.
Sometimes people say, oh, Hare Krishna, why don't you follow the guru? But if the guru says something completely against Shastra, if he says something against Krishna, Guru is a representative. I remember seeing some. Sir, some breaking news. The ambassador for some country in South America was ambassador. Panama started publicly criticizing the president of the country that he was representing. So then the president sent an ordinance. You're no longer my ambassador. The ambassador is just the representative of the president. He's given power from the president. He submits that power to the president of the other country. And after that he's a rep represented him for that country. He starts playing against his own president. This gets the rug pulled out to Mundan. He's no longer a message back to a mouse. So Guru is guru. As long as he's representing Krishna, that's his duty to do so. He's to represent him properly. Then out of the false ego, we just follow. But in this case, Maling was so well trained and it was so obvious in contradiction. His gurus confirming this is his. Don't give him what he Asked for don't give him what he promised. Don't worship the lucid. You're not being consistent here. Some things are going to stay wrong. At least one time at this point there was a guru there so also went crazy. And he was telling his disciples to live with him and some left with him. But most of the disciples stayed with Prabhupada's womb. Later on it became New Zealand.
This.
So sometimes one may be put in that kind of a situation. God forbid, you know, Krishna forbidden. I will train everybody that this is. You know that even as a guru, we tell our disciples, you follow me as long as I'm following Prabhupada in the disciplined succession in this kind of Guru Teghan and a guru in Iskcon for Srila Prabhupada for of the supreme succession. And then if I cease to represent him, I cease to be brutal. So there's always exception to the rule. And this is the exception heavy verse I got today. But it's also important to know. But if his Buddha is not behaving, if he's not against the model, obviously we shouldn't basically disobey the guru's instructions. We shouldn't be like a supercharget.
Who.
For some temporary benefit he is the domain wish to. And in the end also we can see that all the Walid temporarily he lost. That seems that he lost everything. He should turn away three steps, took two steps, actually took the whole the whole planet. And the third step, second step, he took the rest of the universe. And then he asked them.
Mother, you.
Already put the third step. You didn't complete your body, your vowel. So give me three steps. Or you took me everything you need two steps. So then Bali he gave his own hand and said, take me since I put two steps. But because he couldn't give the three steps of land, therefore Vishnu tied him up. So here he was in a very distressed condition for us. One time he was arrested for failing to give his promise of three steps. Different people coming up. And in the future he would hear about. I remember everything in the Padma Purana. This promised Padma Purana very useful for.
Us.
To translate that. He was learning the Saras and Dharmas. He said this very difficult Sanskrit. So there talks about another day of Rama when there was another appearance of Ramada Deva. At that time it wasn't Boli Maharaj, but it was. There was another son or descendant of BT who was known as Bhaskar Maharaj Bhaskar.
And.
In this past time time Ramadan Gyan appeared to have et. And so then the Indra brought Bhaskar Maharaj, a broad man to see Maskara, Maharashtra. So it says how they journey to the Indra Loka. Indra hasn't been there for a while. Indra has got his own mystical powers and his means of managing the universe which by star Maharaj didn't have the same powers but said that he had arranged things in his own way. So as they approached the palace they saw that once a unit sustained.
Of.
Subtle horses, mental horses.
You can say.
Astral horses and with messengers going all parts of the universe coming back at the speed of the mind. So even in grammar and saw that Indra Loka was well maintained, well managed, it was doing a good job.
Wasn'T.
All the day left but they appreciate it was like well maintained and together place. And although he didn't have the same exact facilities in it, had his backs on alternative arrangements and kept a highly unified universal structure. So then India comes with the bottom of the day and he offers Bhavaskar.
Maharaj.
I offer you my respects. You know, doing a pretty good job here. So last time, Indra, my dear brother, you come to see me something I can give you? No, I said I didn't come here for myself really. You see this Brahmana, he came to me as an Indra, this little dwarf boy here. And he asked me for some land. And I told him, I can't see you. I don't really own anything anymore. Everything's been taken by Matsuka. He's the king of the universe now, the three worlds. He's the only one I give. I can't give you that he could. So I only came here that he wants a few steps to land. So right now I want to myself don't have anything. So I thought I would ask you. And then Siddhi Saman's Mama Day what do you want? I said, no, I just want 3 cents of land.
Again.
Namaskar existed. He said, you know that today is the happiest day of my life. Actually this whole universal conquest I did just because I was so upset that just because, you know, we're the descendants of bt it's like some kind of universal prejudice. We're never accepted, we're outcasts, we're never accepted by anything. They don't want to associate with us, they want to talk to us. And now finding Indra, my glorious name of having a brother, half brother. He's finally come and he's offered me respect. I mean, if you had offered me respect like this, I wouldn't even be here today. I wouldn't even bother to fight. And I tell you, I feel so happy. David, if you want to ask me for the universe, is that I give it to you. All I really wanted was just to be respected. But by the way, something for him there was no I tell you whatever. I didn't come for my own sake. I just came for him. So okay, I'll give you. You want three steps, Something like that. I'll give you a planet to the okay. How many natures, you know, girls feel nice, wife and married, you know, you can have a planet, do lots of yagyas there, whatever your Brahmas do you.
Want.
To take this one three steps. So then in this case I'm not super chimed in. Nobody was there to stop Maskar. And he gave the three steps. He put the water in Ramadeva's hand. Ramadeva. This time he took one step, the whole planet. Next step he took the lower universe. And the third step, he took the after. So let me ask Vasquez so that I cover everything. Vaska looks to his own news. My goodness, you sure did. You took everything. It's all yours and that. But now you should say, you know, you got ready.
Sport.
He just gave me three stacks of everything.
He had.
A really good sport. And I just tell you, I would like to reciprocate with you. I like giving you anything you want, Tell me what you want. But Master Money is doing all that he could have asked anything, be a Brahma or whatever.
But.
Bhaskar, he was so impressed by this, by the opulence of the Lord. He said, I would like to go to your planet and I would like to serve you there.
Is that possible?
I said, no problem. So the Vishaludas came and took him back to Ghat. Then Turik raised back to Bahama and David gave Hijra, gave him the kingdom.
Again.
Went back to the Nevas. So this pastime of Bamma and David, you know, that's just two.
We've been there.
In other words, it could happen a different way. It's not always with buggy. That could be solid. And then self is over. Indra, everything seems to be a consistent. I mean, at least those two. But so this court has got to strike. Wow, there's some other Kalmar day of Brahma. There's no other pastime Mother Brahmana day. Just like there's more than one Buddha. The little hint in the one verse in the Bhagavatam says that sometimes there's star wars going on. Different planets are fighting each other. Buddha comes and appears, gets everybody to be doing I am son universal Buddha.
For.
Kiss people to stop fighting. So of course the final understanding is that we'll be sit here while you.
Are.
Surrenders serves the Lord. He's getting the lotus foot water on his head. Because of this pastime Ganga Devi comes into the universe Ganga Baja. So the whole universe is purified by the water washing holes through the Lord. He had a tradition following an emotional traditional contain of blood rather spiritual. Bali was worshipping Sakam devotees as a Karma Kandi portion in Vishnu. When Bala day appeared and he actually surrendered. He gave up everything to Vishnu. And by that then he got devotion. He upgraded by his people worship. They just for some material reason. So we do it for the Lord's pleasure. The Lord wants this, I give it to him. Then it becomes a pure poverty.
To.
A special platform in Jagan Puri. And I remember they said where somebody who always made them this is a very great opportunity. Then the Lord after this he goes to get sick. So this is actually a pastime that since he wants to go on a Rathyatra but he'll never get permission from live streams or leave. So for 15 days significance of intimate pastimes to pacify her again or to give permission to her journey to see your anti Gupti and everybody so esoteric and intelligent for the 15 days. So today is a very rejoicing day. Everyone comes to face the Lord. Lord takes on his Hathi Diksha. So it's a good day that.
If.
There are any authorized cooks know how to cook sweet preps. After the bathing they offer some different sweet preparations to the lords. Mainly sweets.
Series.
They have about 30 varieties. I thought it would be nice to get up to 100. I mean it's not so many things one could do, one could make. So there's 20 crooks and each one does five sweets, you know, 100. I mean I know some parks are prolific. They want to. They can do 20.
Cookies.
Lotions. I need some help. I want to do some maybe cure and flat rice balsas like we did last year. I need some helpers to cut out the fruits of things for me. Any volunteers? Cherry and all that very apple. Let's spell a lot of time since a good opportunity, lots of service today I'm going to appreciate seeing the Lord making garments yesterday today. So festival means that in Sanskrit called Maha Ut Samp Ut means transcend the uttama which Lifts us above the ignorance. So some activities where we can offer some devotional service lifts us out of our normal via state of three modes. Puts us in a transcendental life form. Some great location for mah. And of course usually part of the mahutsa. As always that gives some prashad. Especially in the new jakabash. This particular festival, one of those unique festivals that there's no fasting. It's a last week fast till midnight, half fast till the next morning. But this particular festival is just service, chanting, feasting. So I hope everybody takes opportunity though to volunteer for whatever service and a cook will use. You help the cooks preparing the ingredients for running errands or whatever. Also today I can also be going on a java walk in the morning sometime for those that are not doing other services.
Mama Sam after.
The offering should be ready.
What's the time now? Another quarter of an hour and this.
Should all be ready.
Is that.
The one that these 30.
Units for RB6 get them back. We just dump these out. So we auction and dump. Dump them on a plate for the people.
A little salt.
Ra Sa. It Sa Ram Sa.
We got any offers?
This one's not fire.
You would like to make ozer?
$5.
$10. $11. 15. 15, 15. She's offering 22 for 50. Anyone? 51 55. Going, going good. Double the resin.
Okay, that's a big.
This is a yogurt traditional mix. This is what we call the Panihati Nithyananda Mahabhot. This is with fruits traditional like mangoes, bananas and things that are existing in India. It's a yogurt mix. This is yogurt traditional white tea. Anyone else? Any other $5 10.10c. Well I can't see the labels. We got two of them. Okay, offer $10. $10. 11, 15.
How much?
15, 20. How many 15 been offered? 16.
70.
70. Okay, I got two here. Kira Mahabo. This is special ecstatic. Different parts of the world, different ecstasies of the Lord. Lord, Lord Baroka. We have here some which are in the Abisha Lorras. We can't give you the Lord. We have to put in the thing here and south you actually get a brand new lora. We have got 1, 2, 3 for floras.
Silver.
This is cheer condensed melt. Special ecstatic fruits which are guaranteed to increase your love for Christians. Anyone for kitchen? 15, 25. 25, 20. Okay, first one.
20.
Second one? Yeah, this one for the last 50. Anyone else want to go higher than 15, 20. 25 anyone? 30. 21 twice.
Three times.
Here we go. 25. The same flavor, but you don't get to keep the logo just yet. To get back to the beans from.
Last time, I gave them the.
What was the last offer you just wanted?
5.
Brother and sister fighting it out. All right, this is it.
Go on.
21.
Okay. 21. Wow.
95. You learn cooperation.
Raised your hand.
That means you finish.
Gone.
51 2.
That's it.
30. 35. 35. 35. 35. 30. 511. 110. 111. 1 11.
Here.
120. Anyone for 120? Dee's offering. 260. 260. Subatodeni key price listing.
You can do it.
300. 3 10. 3 10. 3 11.
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