#JayapatakaSwamiArchives 20091117 || Question & Answer Session || Chennai, India

Jaya Pataka Swami answers questions on guru-disciple relationships, the difference between Krishna and his expansions like Narayana, and how to recognize genuine Vaishnavas. The session covers what pleases a guru, the risks of offending devotees, and how such offenses block the path to divine love.
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Hare Krishna Guru Maharaj, please explain about the Guna Tattva. Your eternal servant Rama Rupa Chaitanya Das Guru Tattva, please explain about the Guru Tattva. Please explain about the Guru Tattva evil eternal servant Rama Rupa Chaitanidas.
Our Guru Tatra is a somewhat difficult topic this night Hashila Tatra and is also to all the other devil at the same time. He's considered an expansion of this film and subordinate to this tool. So this is where actually this Siddha Thinning so samurai world he's reflected like we reflect Ka's kind of a cleanse of Ka at the same time he's devoting. He is not God. He's devoting. So let us take the chair. It said I know my guru is Chaijanya Das and I know that he is also Ka Vikash. So there's two things in there. That guru is the mercy incarnation of the Lord. His only duty is to give mercy to guide again this is all Dr. Humdaiktu Yahya. And so he takes the Son condescend souls as disciples and guides them to help to go back home, back to God. Now the disciple they can choose whichever guru they want in Islam. And I read this like 74 gurus term so I can choose any other 74 in the future or many more. So although it's something they don't want to, they don't want to take recitals so they otherwise they're called by their guru they wanted to take but they don't want to take. So one time in 1977 in the Nang I forget what month it was because in the final months of before provost departure he lifted up his hand and showed me. He said to see I am his skin and bones. This is because I took. I told many unqualified disciples.
So.
We know that the guru has to take the karma for the disciples, our first is the disciple chants regular principles doesn't ache, doesn't take intoxication, doesn't do healing. It doesn't have illicit connection. And then being the sickle is not willing to grow up apart from what but if they are very careful they may also lighten the Lord. Hallelujah. So in this way I disciple I tries to help the rule to fulfill the mission of Srila Prabha in various Acharyas at the same time a disciple tries to avoid committing any sinful activity which would Lord the Gurudra he is a disciple of it is considered he is our Guru Truhi. He is a killer of the Guru. He is causing the Guru to sell them. So we hope that most of the disciples in India at least they don't once they take any saints. And they are very strict. I cannot say anywhere in the world that holds true. That very one of first disciples I made from America as a nurse. And not too long after initiation she started to break the regular principles. So I went to her and I said why are you doing this? Consider initiative and it allows to follow the regular principle. She said and she ran law. There are promises. I make so many promises but I don't give them all. So this was some promise I didn't keep. And she was very cold. So I don't think I need this. I don't know what had the guts to say to the Guru but Srira is just like that. No, it's just a promise. I wrote my stalling promise. I said it's two o', clock, I can't see. Yeah, it's a problem. But this is very serious problems. This is not ordinary problems. So that way no. And it's going it take a little longer before we give people anything. We try to make sure that they really know the seriousness of it. But the guru has a Guru Chatra is assessing that to give the mercy of Krishna. If they don't take disciples, how will they advance? How will they spread the knowledge? At the same time if we take disciples and they don't follow then it causes the guru difficulty. So we have balance the two things. So this is. We can talk a long time on Guru chakra. But this is just the next question.
Hare Krishna Guru Maharaj please glorify and explain pastimes of Shyamananda Pandita. Your spiritual son and aspiring servant Venudari Kaliya Das Kaneradari Kane.
He was originally known as Aduki Krishna Da. Then he was his name was changed to Supr Krishna and he was. He was a disciple of. You know, I think God are his disciples. And he was sent to Vidal to study under Jesus was so at that time Jesus was he taken in the Krishna conscious philosophy. However there was some veena they had some hundred where he located the angel Velarati. And he said I only give this to the honor to get Hari's, you know. No, no. Is it yours? And I said I know this person. No, no. I want the owner to Come here. So the owner was Rani. So she came. And then he. He realized that there was Rah Rani Rajarani. I touched it on the lawyer with a finger. How white duck came out. I saw this dark to wash it away. It always come down. It wasn't a material dark. It was. And then the deity also spoke to him. So as a result he got the name when he came there to Sunita. Guru Raghuru is a little surprised. You have a new Sri Lanka, a new name. I just set up not only a shik Guru Shiksha. Guru doesn't change the name, doesn't teach mutira. I just give some instruction Guru verse. Other gurus, disciples and pranayamasana and some other gurus are our Sikh Sahur for life and silence. There's a certain etiquette we follow. Like we accept that the dikshagura is the principal and the diction support and dug up the dictionary. But in this case he had no tag and no name. So that was an older thing. And then Goswami. Why is it that he has a new denial, a new name? He didn't want to ask him directly because he did not disturb his faith. So there two circles went all the way to Vrindavan, 1400 kilometers walking. When she did slowly six of the six Goswamis can't do it. I didn't do it. I didn't do me. And the Deedee talked in Ashanathan and Didi and taught everybody. So therefore he got Shannon. Because he always talked to deed like this. And you know, I respect you as a teacher grow. I saw the letter all his life and how much it took to draw it on that. Then he tried to roll out the tila. And am I right? Am I right? Yes, this is it. For justice thank him. That's he wrote it all right. And he realized this tilak is not hardened on your side. And I saw like this he accepted that Ashyananda the Suki Krishnadas. He became known as Ashyavananda Khanate. And here's Zeus. The scholars also took one.in the middle of the tea. He had a dot. He has a radar on his blessing face with the dot as they're following him. But Fina has a blessing of Radarani. So his principal disciple was rashidramana Rashtikananda was ordered to become a guru. Even in Venus Haskcon his guru orders had disciple to take the saddles. Then the normal etiquette is that the saddle doesn't think in the presence of the guru. But following this tradition if the guru orders the dog used to take disciples then he can do that if he was living iskcon. So I have one disciple that I instructed to take disciples. His name is Chitanya Chandrachar Gods. He's in Russia. Who knows. I mean I asked the one so to do this service. But then this one was and others, many others were elicited. And so we call that.
The next one. Guru Maharaj Hare Krishna Prabhupada quotes in one of his purports. Sometimes Lord Narayana is astonished by the opulence of Krishna in Goloka Vrindavana. But at the same time he says Lord Narayana is non different from Krishna. Kindly explain your servant's servant Ranga Ramadas.
Rashra Muri, the father of the essay he studied the different personalities and he came and Rama has 50 acquiris. Now we have these. They have had these Kritna also that very small Brahma has his sister and quite good quality. Then Shiva he has thyroid and Rama so he has assisted side he has the same thing. Lord Narayana or Vishnu has 60 Koi. So he has Thailand and Siddha he had the same 55 sila 50 as Rama. But in the economy he directly expansion of Ka which Krishna is the only one that has 64 qualities. He has foreign war. Therefore Parasha knowing king of Buddhism and Krishna is the original personality of Rajan and Narayana and Vishnu are extensions of Krishna. So in that sense they're not different. But there is no difference. And silent there I just said him simultaneously the other nine. But he doesn't have all the all the qualities of Krishna. He has only 60 or 60.
Guru Maharaj Hare Krishna Prabhupada often quotes in Bhagavat Vrindavan Parityacham Padam Ekam Nagat Chathi. Krishna never takes step out of Vrindavan. Kindly explain your servant's servant Rangalamatas.
Leela which are known as our current leader. And he's also present and renowned invisible his uppercut form, his unmanifested form. Just like Arani is doing Satiras and Krishna. Krishna is there, he watches. He has revealed to the Lord as they devotees feel more ecstasy and saturation of Vishnu than they do in Yugnya Lord Krishna. So that's our secret. Sri Krishna he remains in the nun and he is there invisibly while the devotees are feeling great as separation for him showing his situation. Actually Mark united with Krishna. That's a very secret thing. So he tried to assert Krishna either in union or civil rights. And he said a girl either lawful children when he's physically present or when he's not physically present. According to his instruction it is called Vani Silam.
Next Respected Gur Maharaj, which quality and activity of your disciple would please most to your divine self? Your servant Sukert of Madhavi Devidasi.
How many are watching on Internet? 75. 75. 75. 75, 75. How many questions? One.
Only one zone online that is from local that is our who came yesterday. Yeah, but today he didn't come.
Those tense those who want to send on Internet push the direction we are using JPS warning. Yeah, they can write there. Okay. So on Internet if you want to write a question, write to JTS Vani and San Russi. Got us. We'll get it.
Respected Gur Maharaj, which quality and activity of your disciple would please most to your divine self? Your servant Sukeerthi Mahadevi Devidas.
I asked Prabhupada what this question shant and he replied that he will be most pleased when his disciple love of Ka so that is the highest development Other than that Our saint shall mention 26 our qualities of the clear Lord. Any of those qualities are all of them desirable manifests that certainly very pleasing to the Guru. The topmost thing of the love of Krishna. If the ear is enthusiastic, that's a good sinom that's a qualification. So enthusiasm, tension, addiction, following the principles of darkness I such angles and voids and we step forward in dealings are the 16th Schedule on two devotional service aggravated by Ruth in his old traditional meeting. So these things will also be very pleasing to the world. Enthusiasm, patience. Abdic said apart from that the one thing behind says the straightforward Give a disciple a straight heart and he tells the guru I'm having a statistical thing this is a weakness. The honesty of the disciple is very well appreciated Kaliyura other qualities prominently the only thing that sticks out is honesty. So the settler is honest that is also associated with.
Last two questions. Dear Guru Maharaj, please kindly explain how to recognize Vaishnava in order to advance in spiritual life by chanting Sutta nouns Since it is mentioned in shastras says Vaishnava Vaishnava Nera kriya mudra the words faithful humble servant Haladara Sevakadas.
How to recognize the right song? Well, since you had heard but you know, Takoy said he's dressed in a satire cloth like I don't see that the angel is coming on beautiful lady, you see, rather than Being a publicly hostile in Kaliyuga they saw the atma Sultanaya they saw sitting or else but any lord so it's not considered very good. So this is there were 20 of LA San Fernandayas and now there's more of some kind of holy English. There's a lot going on and so externally some of these upper cell phonayas are liquid based on telekinetic fees but they're not outcoming. So when they take over their anointing I went asanu shook up Sadhu going to Ashram sin Hadidis. So they saw the Hadidis there Aaron and he said please acceptance lion logger a loyal Lord using some fruit and some sweets and some simple stuff. So they sat down and they are taking some food for some and that our supper lays out. He said will you stay for lunch for you I'll cook a slice of fish the fruit of the water. So they judge up and they judge them again with all their clothes on. They are feeling so contaminated how they took food for this so called vaish. So some of the devotees so called vaisana they don't actually follow the rules and regulations. So this this is a problem but otherwise everyone with tea life and criminal you can say they're Deloitte but it's not so easy. They also see what they do and they are slowing the.
This is the last question Shamala Singh any more question? Last question. This is online question from Chennai Jeevana Gaura Haridas how to glorify devotees without duplicity.
Well, what is duplicity? If you say something to God higher devotee that you know to be false that's all you guys want to that's all duplicity. So we should try to find out the things that we know to be true. You're very sick to worry. You get up and run hierarchy all the time. Whatever is honest at his got some good quality. Oh you have a very nice service action he honest tomorrow and all that are nice service. So he tried to find out what is the honesty of God. Enjoy. You don't say the I think we don't really believe him. They say what we believe and there may be something you don't like to work with. You don't have to you know. But what is honestly not really true. He said that so this way between Lodhi and Elazar without being duplicious by saying what is honest. I think that is something nice to say about you can do that Lord. You sit girls and girls boys boys person sitting next to You. I want you to say something nice to them. Something that you know. Okay. On your mark. I said go.
By the devotee next to you.
Whatever good quality you see in that.
Honesty.
Honesty. How do you feel?
How do you feel?
No. No duplicity. No, no. Sorry. Is it possible?
Yes, it is possible.
We had to say one good quality forgotten. Then we had to give drug. And then he had to say good quality again. A sandwich. So that's what we're talking. But because it was a sentence. Therefore you felt. You didn't feel the person was against you. Because they did say something nice about you in the beginning and at the end. But they did say something negative also. But in a constructive way. So that was. I just did the first part.
This one more person came from USA Alachua. From Cauvery. USA Alochua it is.
Thank you for tuning in. Giving us also your question.
Is it possible to get Prema Bhakti if devotee commit Vaishnava, Aparadha and strike still chanting Hare Krishna.
According to our Lord Chaitanya. Even as such is not her or is not eligible to get a love of Krishna. You guys see her offended. So if mother says she can't get a mercy. But yes, there are outstanding lifestyles Then they don't get highly elected. Their heart will be very hard. Of course this kind of field offended doesn't necessarily mean it's an event. Because sometimes the Lording you see you can ask a question of your body and it's not considered an offense. They may take offense. Why do I say personally but it's not offense. Our lawyer has the right to ask that question. So mother Satsi. I see what is going on with her devotional service very nicely. But she technically didn't get another Krishna until she got forgiven by Aditya sahib. Finally he also would forgive her. Yes. He took her to leave us a great devotee. He didn't consider that he could be offended by her. So his unconscious are glorifying all the Satsi. So what? Chaitanya told her to take the dust content and to him and let's get other Christ.
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