#JayapatakaSwamiArchives 20091118 || Question & Answer Session || Chennai, India

Transcript of a question-and-answer session by Jaya Pataka Swami (Chennai, India, Nov 18, 2009) covering marriage compatibility for devotees, stories of converted/converted-from devotees, challenges faced by devotees in Kazakhstan/Russia, pastimes of Nityananda, and guidance on correcting other devotees (Vaishnava etiquette). The recording includes anecdotal stories, practical advice on choosing a spouse, regional temple incidents, and devotional pastimes and teachings.
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So now we'll have the question and answer.
Question, answer first question. Srila Prabhupada told to give first priority to Ka conscious persons when getting married. Some initiated devotees end up getting married to non devotees or marriage partners already predestined. Or can we choose Ka conscious persons as life partners by our choice and priority? Jeevana Gaura Haridas.
It mentioned I think when Karu Muni proposed that he should marry Adi the Houthi he said there are two Guna and Ruchi. They should have a similar quality and a similar taste. So we recommend that for devotees that they had many devotees. Unfortunately. See one of my disciples, her father thought his glowing life was my daughter should marry an engineer somebody who makes a good salary 40, 50,000 a year a month. So but the daughters who father were not compatible. The Horace shows that we're not compatible. He's the rich. What you care about contemplatively I can pay the astrologer for 250 rupees. He'll make it contendable. You don't see the sign Hundred rupees for compatibility check 250 to make compatibility. So nothing compatibility, it's nothing. We can do it. That's cheating. I want someone who's really compelled. So then she came to me what to do? So fortunately I had another disciple who was also a runner from South India. This was his father, only one Adhranath and he was working as a vice president of Vivek and usa. So the word was don't tell anyone Jesus devotee. You see, they think that devotees are only we got one or two Roman shards that most of the devotees grasp them. So we have. They don't know that we have so many harvestors and so many girls that are looking to get married that are not living in any ashram, they're working outside. So the father started to suspect something that he broke his leg on a two wheeler accident which makes him harder than the drives are too. Well, he's around very efficient and he drive signing toilets are very dangerous. Anyway, the whole marriage went along very nicely. Then as they're leaving on the train to Longle they catch their flight. This is some years ago now they flight. But the sister in law, the sister of the husband she knew the father said look, I'm wrong, don't shall lie. But the Oldest thing are not going to say anything. But if they ask me, is he a devotee? I'm not going to lie but if they don't ask, I won't say anything. So they never ask. As they were waiting, the sister said. She almost said Hare Krishna almost just caught herself. So this was one of our success cases. Finally another case. She under pressure of his parents, he married the girl. She was previously from a non veg family but she agreed to be vegetarian. So after one year, six months he gave me. The wife started to eat now and then what do I do? She told me, you know, a non devotee family. You knew I was a non vegetarian. I tried what to do? I tried for a year and a half. I can't do it any longer. I got him taken, I got into salt. He was like devastated because he loved his wife, he loved the child. But now she was a non vegetarian, she liked him. She waited until there was nothing he could do and then he. Then he was on six podiatry. I talked to her and she was a submission lady. So she agreed. Okay, I'll try again. And now she's initiated a disciple. Husband says she's a daughter of devoted. But another case in Peru, the wife, the husband, they both joined as non devotees. The husband was a taxi joiner and he began to chant but somehow his wife was not quarrelling. So that time I was staying at the house at the temple. I was in Morocco, near the beach. So then he said let's go and see the beach. She said okay, so he goes to the beach. Oh, by the way, I heard Hare Krishna guru is at the temple. Let's just start in say hi. She destructed something anyway she can't with him and he got down and I listened to her and him and she said whatever I do now, he's not good. He always criticized me. Before it was good enough he got married. Now nothing I do is good, so I'm fed up. Okay, then I told her, don't scold her, let her come around to me. So she was very healthy. I gave the drilling to her husband and then I asked her, can you just chant one round of dream? One round of Hare Krishna Mahamadra? She said, because you asked me, I'll do it. That he asked me, I will do it. So I could tell you a whole bunch of stories. But if they already are devotee we have. I mean India is a little complicated because they got caste, sub caste, subtle caste. It's a little complicated, but I mean. Well then okay, we have violence. We can generally find someone similar to what you're looking for. In Corella they have like Nair is a fisherman cast. Now they're all engineers, but their forefathers were 200 years ago or 100 years ago or fishermen. So he has to be a Nair, who's the engineer, that kind of thing. It's complicated. But generally we have people between India and the Middle east and Malaysia we have some people who can serve. Try to find the devotee. If you stand for a vegetarian case, no devotee. At least someone who is a legendarian their whole life. Don't believe them. If they say okay for you, I'll become legendary. What are you going to do if after a year they change back to none? At that healing, you have a choice. That's the one choice you should name. Who is going to need a life partner. They ask Bhakti Thakur, what is the most important thing for a Vihasta? He said, the most important thing is your spouse who you are spending your whole life with. Because that person, if you're the wrong person, it's very difficult to practice your Krishna consciousness. Get from the right person. Then it's very easy together. To our Ka conscious Tinu Veer Rata Maharaj. He was a Brahmachari and Manu Christian that he should get nine. But he was hesitating. And then I think it was Rama who came to him and speaks to him and told her he was supposed to be the next Manu. I saw a great king preached to him. Look at he's been married a proper girl who is also not conscious. Then the husband and wife, they form like a fortress. And then they can descend on so much of the material enemies Enameans. So like that they're encouraging him. So then he accepted. Okay. And he accepted the Ashta Ashram. So we want you to make fortresses of your Grihasa Ashram where you don't let Naya enter Hajj and light. Together they form a nice Krishna conscious teamwork and teacherly they experience whatever it is to experience on the Triha dance and engage in Ka service.
The next question for Kazakhstan and Russia. The devotees are all brutally tortured physically. How to offer our love and compassion to those suffering devotees? Jeevana, Gaura, Haridas.
Well, Kazakhstan, as you know, they tore down our temple. Also in Armenia they tore down a temple. But Russia, I didn't hear Russia. They were tortured before, but now it's okay. As far as I know. In fact the Russians are the largest group apart from The Bengali and Hindi speaking group. I come to the Lord Vonima festival. So you can come to God Vonima. And you can welcome the Kazakh devotees. Welcome the Russian devotees and they'll be very happy. I heard now that we have 74 devotees in Russia. In Russia. Hare Krishna. Next question.
Guru Maharaj.
Hare Krishna.
Kindly describe the pastimes of Nithyananda Prabhu delivering the thieves at Hiranya Pandita's house. Your servant's servant. Aranganamadas.
I don't know if I remember. I remember that past time. Which book are you written? In the sink. After this appearance of Nita Jani she came. She went to Vindal. First she came to Ekacheka village to see the. To see the place where her husband was born. I saw one old man who was going to the king. What makes you chant like that? Nityoda was given away by Haroja. His father chose Sanyasi and he was the light of the village. When he left, the whole village was dead. Why? Because you want to write children. And again, so much love they had for Nityananda. It's not seen that people have more love than someone else other than their own children. But in this village, Elio love the time. So you want to tell us his story of Nintendo? No. This. Although I swear on Chaitan river. But I actually I didn't read the whole Chaitan bower.
Actually Nithyananda actually he was wearing full of jewels and ornaments in his earring and in his neck. And in his binger also he was wearing finger rings. And then he had lot of jewels. And then even in the turban he was decorated with lot of jewels. So seeing those valuable ornaments, some thieves. A group of thieves under the leadership of one decoy. They planned to robber that Nithyananda so that their life can be settled. So first day those robbers came to Hiranyapatita's home. Actually they were planning to rob Lord Nithyananda. Suddenly. Actually in the night. Actually when they were planning to rob Lord Nithyananda's jewellery. Immediately they got sleep due to the influence of Yoganitra. And then in the morning every thief they started to accuse each other. And then they went saying that actually we have not worshipped Goddess Chandi. So then they told the first day is a failure. The second day we have to come after worshipping Goddess Chandi. Then they went to Chandi, offered flesh, wine and everything. Second day they again came to rob Lord Nithyananda's jewellery. At that time they saw A wonderful thing. In the night that surrounded in Hiranya Pandita's house there were a lot of devotees actually who are all chanting with their bead bags. And for them actually they looked like great soldiers. And they feared that actually Lord Nithyananda is protected by hundreds of soldiers. Then they thought that actually today is also a failure. So we can't actually approach Nithyananda with these soldiers who are all surrounding Hiranya Pandita's home. Then they again went that actually we have to come and then rob on third day. So again they planned. Again they came on the third day and they started to approach Hirinyapanita's home when they were stuck. When they were to enter into the house of Lord Nithyananda, immediately actually Indra started to pour heavy rain and immediately it went totally black. And they started to fall in a ditch. And a lot of thorn trees started to tear their bodies and scorpions started to bite them. And immediately actually they started that they were in a very critical condition. So at that time Dacoit Vaishnava who was the leadership actually he started that. Actually he has done a great mistake and he started to repent. Then immediately those sin went away. And that Vaishnava, that thief who was leading that robbery he came personally to Lord Nithyananda saying that I have come with the motive to robber your jewels. But I am totally fallen. Please accept me as your servant. Then Lord Nithyananda took his garland and offered to him. And he said, from now onwards I will call you as Dacoit Vaishnava. And from this day onwards, since all the small thieves are all below you, you have to preach Krishna Nama Sangeetan to them. And if you preach Nama Sankirtan they will hear because you are the leader. So from today onward you are decoyed to Vaishnava.
I thank you. It's very nice. And history. How many watching on Internet.
Questions from Internet also. Guru Maharaj, Hare Krishna, in one of your lectures you were noting that you asked Prabhupada that you want to serve him birth after birth. Prabhupada replied you, you can also serve me in spiritual world. Guru Maharaj, please bless all the assembled devotees here. We should all go back home, back to God. And with you I and serve you eternally, forever and ever.
Your server servants Ranga Ram Dasi was told that would you know, touch the Guru, you should always glorify him. Humble yourself and ask for some blessing. Guru Krishna. I saw. I did this every Time I saw his divine grace Bhakti with Unta Swami, I had the good fortune to be his direct our disciples from 1968. So one day I asked, I want to share new life as a life. And he replied. He replied to me, why you want to make me come back? I was thinking, what did I say wrong? I thought I said the right thing. And I said, even I sa. I added the word even. If he wants me to go back to the spiritual world, okay, I'll serve there. If he wants me to come back to this material world and I'll serve him here. Come here. Smart. That was actually what happened. But this devotee was actually right around us. He's saying, we want to show you only in the spiritual world. He's very clever. Anyhow, I'm fading. You all will doctors.
Last question with me. Anybody else has more questions, please forward. We have very last time.
Yeah, last question.
Respected Guru Maharaj, sometimes in our attempt to correct a devotee, we end up offending him. Is this considered Vaishnava a pradha? What is the difference between correcting a devotee and criticizing a devotee? Your servant, Sukeerthi Madhavi Devidasi.
You see, we should not consider that what level the person is at, what level we're at. If the person is senior to us, we should correct that person. However, we can't ask a question as an equal. Maybe we can either ask a question or we can as a family or talk to them if they're junior, and then we can correct them. So how is our relationship with that devotee? That should be our consideration. Now if we tell some senior devotee, you're doing the wrong thing, that's our position. We can say, peru, I look up to you as a very. As an example, seeing the Lord, sometimes you do something that puts a doubt in your mind. Can you please clarify that? And then what your question is, what your doubt is, you ask as a question. So you have not. You indirectly are advising everybody what they should do, but you're doing it in a way of asking a question. So therefore, either they take offense, there's no offense. You're allowed to ask questions of seniors. If you tell a senior, I think you know you're wrong. That's all of Buddhism. He shouldn't do that. We could ask the question, maybe they had a reply. Maybe they had an answer. So we let them. We show them respect in India. They're quite accurate in this. I said, maharaj, Maharaj, can I ask you a question? Your only Fence is I ask you a question, you know something's coming, your teeth are standing. Maharaj is okay, I can ask you a question. And then you know, what's this question? Maybe I did something wrong and they ask you the question. So in this way you are, you are informed. But they haven't permitted any offense. Now if you instruct some real volume. I found that living in India for many, many years. I'm now Indian citizen. I lived in India since 1970. So this is all year 39 years. Next year is the 30th year in India. Immoral. Scolding someone in public. They take it very hard. It's like Indians are sensitive people and if you scold them like in public they may not actually accept what you're saying. And I feel like I was embarrassed in her all night fears she needed like take on a sign. Talk to them, Try, you know, you shouldn't sit your feet up. Saddened won't do that. But and I saw the advice. So how are you going to have your advice accepted by the audience, the person you wanted to speak to that you have to understand in the west they're not so sensitive. So Daniel began to be all in the hard hearted one. One time Prabhupada came into the temple and early on tables to him. This is like in 1967. So he hit Ramana on the block with his camera. Will you repeat the deity? He said, tell you Ficha de Brahman was thinking eyes rather kidney. And he did it. Not only me. I think that he did. Then he realized he was used as an example because he would take it if he got on him with his stick. Okay, he's faithful to disciple. He's not gonna. So then he was feeling very proud that father used me as an example. So like this is the way Prabhupada said he was an Indian. He was elderly so he didn't get all his scoldings on the boys. But otherwise it's not possible for everyone to do the same thing. I was temple president when I was 19 or 20 years old. And the one is older than me in the moon for one or two years longer. So I ordered them. You'll go and clean the toilet. Look at me. What are you doing? What you dying? I helped you today with the sanitary pain. I have to ask the question. I only have to go easy. I'll keep on his case. But I found that it was more effective if I ask a question than I give order. Because I was a young guy and they don't take me so that hat that I have to this day, I tend to ask questions rather than tell teeth what to do. That was how I grew up in Christian consciousness. So thank you all the rest of us for your questions and attendance.
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