Jaya Pataka Swami answers questions on building relationships with Krishna through service, staying focused while chanting by writing down distracting thoughts, and finding a genuine spiritual teacher. He draws on examples from Chaitanya and Andal to explain how devotion deepens through sincere practice.
Hare Krishna. Guru Maharaj, please accept my respectful obeisances. You mentioned the different relationships with Krishna. My question is, how do we know which one we need to be serving him as? And how can we develop that love for Krishna?
In due course of time this thing is revealed to you.
In due course of time this thing is revealed to you.
Sometimes Prabhupada would tell different disciples what Rasa they were experiencing.
Sometimes rla Prabhupada would tell different disciples what Rasa they were in.
These things are revealed.
These things are revealed at some point.
Chaitanya, Lord Chaitanya one thing, Lord Nithyananda, that's another thing.
If you're attracted by Lord Caitanya, that's one thing. Or Lord Nithyananda, that's another thing.
Like that, different symptoms of different Rasas.
Like that. Different symptoms, but different Rasas.
First of all we need to know our Ka consciousness.
But first of all we need to develop our Ka consciousness.
Saras is common with all.
Service is common with all.
As you go up, all the other rajas included.
And as you go up, like conjugal has all the other Rasas included.
Friendship, close Dasya and Sava.
Friendship includes Dasya and Shanta.
Paternal includes all the others.
And paternal includes all the others except Madurya. So like that. And first of all we have. We need to develop our service to Ka. Service attitude to Krishna.
Last night, how you can. How you can ask Krishna or Sir, I think I'm a tailbone.
Last night someone was asking how can we ask Krishna for service, not for some material benefit.
I was explaining how we don't want to do business with Krishna.
So I was explaining we don't want to do business with Krishna.
I served you by giving something back.
Until I serve you and you give me something back material.
We want serving. We want to continue serving.
We are serving and we want to continue serving.
It's like another Swami. Before I pass away, I went to.
See him just like Kadamakanaswamy before he passed away I went to see him virtually, virtually.
And he said, my lifetime I've been doing service to Ka.
He said, in my lifetime I've been doing service to Krishna.
And when I leave the body, I'll just have another service.
When I leave the body, I'll just have another service.
And the body has all the guiding service.
So a devotee wants to always engage in service and then they build up different rasas. But service is common to all.
Yeah. Respectful of his senses, onto your divine lotus feet. My question is how can we chant attentively and not get distracted while chanting?
Interesting.
Interesting.
Being a manager, I always had thoughts come up in my mind Being a.
Manager, I always had thoughts which came up in my mind. I have to do this, I have to do that.
I keep a small notebook, so I.
Keep a small notebook in my pocket.
Just write down, oh, I wouldn't be distracted by thoughts.
So I just write down and so that way I wouldn't be distracted by my thoughts.
A chant looking at Krilla Los feet.
A chant looking at Srila Prabhupada's lotus.
Feet or at some deities or some picture.
Or at some deities or some picture.
And I try to concentrate.
I tried to concentrate.
At the end of the chanting I'd look and see what I had and.
Then after, at the end of my chanting I'd look at my book and see what notes I'd written, what I had to do, what I had to do.
I don't know. Not just all like that. So this is methods to keep our mind understanding.
So I don't know if that's useful, but that's some different methods that may help to keep your mind on the chanting. Hello, Guru Maharaj. Tamar Fanam Graham Karvan. Hare Krishna. There you go. Say so the question was that she's saying I serve Radha and Krishna with the mood that they are my father and mother. So Gurumaj is answering, who taught you this?
Shantaras.
So to consider our father Krishna our father that we consider Shantaras.
We thought just appreciating Krishna because we're just appreciating Krishna actually serve Krishna and San Dansa.
Actually to serve Ka that is Das eras.
On Master.
So in whatever case we see Krishna as our master. There we see Krishna as our master.
Sakya Rasa we see Krishna as our friend.
In Sakiras we see Krishna as our friend.
Paternal Rasa we see Krishna as our child.
And in paternal Rasa we see Krishna as our child.
And in Madhura we say Ka as our lover, our husband.
In Madhuriya Rasa we see Krishna as our lover, our husband.
Consider Krishna like father.
Do you consider Krishna like father is like Shantarasha.
I thought about that. Krishna is everything for us.
It's not like that Krishna. No, it is. There is a song that Krishna is everything to us.
Allah. Allah is all right in that way.
It is all right.
And the song it says Krishna Mata, Krishna Dita, Krishna Dhana Prana.
In this song it says Krishna Mata, Krishna Pita, Krishna Dhanapran is our life and soul. He is our life and soul. He is everything. Any other question?
Hare Krishna Guru Maharaj, please accept my humble obeisances. Maharaj, I have a question. Do we need to have initiation and surrender to go back to Godhead?
I answered.
I answered this question yesterday. So many are here on the zoom call. If we have a guru and follow him then our road to Ka is. Sure you have a bona fide guru?
Yes, I meet a bona fide girl. But it doesn't take initiation out of false ego.
If one meets a bona fide guru and doesn't take initiation out of false ego.
Then that's an obstacle.
Then that's an obstacle.
If one doesn't need a girl and.
If someone doesn't meet a guru and he's trying, he's reading Srila Prabhupada's books and trying to follow, then there is no problem.
Some people think well I don't need a guru, I don't need a guru.
Some people think oh, I don't need a guru either.
They need a bona fide guru, they don't take any shelter and even they.
Meet a bona fide guru, they don't take any shelter.
So.
That could be an obstacle.
So that could be an obstacle.
There's all kind of circumstances.
But there is all kinds of circumstances.
Generally Anjali, one right spiritual master.
Generally one should have a bona fide spiritual master and should take initiation.
They say, they said run the devotional service following the instructions of the guru.
And in this way they should perform their devotional service following the instructions of their guru.
Hare Krishna. Gurumaj, please accept my respect propositions. Your divine feet, lotus feet. Gurumaj Chandraman Prabhu is from Sri Sampradaya and he is following Chinraji Swami. So there they have different way of initiating. So would you like to comment on that? Gurumaj, like Bonafide Acharya and the different methods of initiation. What is your recommendation? Like? What do you think about that? Is that also proper initiation and proper parampara? And he'll go back to Krishna through that route.
Shri Saradaya, one of the four Sambradayas.
So Sri Sampradaya is one of the four Sampradayas mentioned in the Padma Purana.
That's a bona.
So that is a bona fide Sambradaya.
And what are they trying to analyze? What is their process or initiation?
So I was trying to analyze what is their process of initiation and that.
It seems like the actual initiation given to the Sannyasis and Ramanhasas intimate with the Sanjayas.
So it seems like they give the initiation to the Sannyasis and the Grihasas who are very intimately associated with the Guru.
Like clearly that they yield this branding on the body. Chakra. Chakra.
But it wasn't clear to me how they give this branding on the body, the Chakra and Shanka. How that is initiation. Because normally initiation means you receive some mantra. Name has changed.
So there's Shanka Chakra.
So they give everyone this Shankar chakra.
I don't know if that's really considered initiation.
I don't know if that's really considered initiation. Question.
I mean Gopal Bhatta Pasani, he was in Srirangam.
I mean Gopal Bhattika Swami, he was in Srirangam.
But he took the shoulder.
But he took the shelter of Lord Chaitanya. He became one of the six Goswamis.
So he had all received all those Chaka chakras. But he took lots of Lord Chaitanya.
I mean he had all those formalities. Generally he'd received that Shanka chakra. But he took shelter of Lord Chaitanya and got the mantra from him. I mean it's bona fide. That's the Sampradaya. But they only go up to Vaikuntha.
Like Andal Devi.
Andal Devi.
She seemed to have kind of special Rasa with Krishna.
She seemed to have a kind of special Rasa with Krishna.
She ran out and.
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