Lava-Mātra: A Moment with Jayapatākā Swami: Vijaya Vaijayanti Devī Dāsī & Nikuñja Rādhikā Devī Dāsī

My name is Vijay Vaijayanti Matachi. I am from chennai. I have one son and daughter. 2009 here they started the BPS class. So I want to send my son to the BPS class. So from the day onwards I am going to the Krishna conscious.

Hare Krishna. I am Nikuna Radhe Devi Dasi. Actually we are in Qatar in 19 2000. So 2002 I introduced in Krishna consciousness because my daughter was not well by birth. So what I will tell because on.

The.

I just enter into Krishna consciousness. Thank you so much.

How you met Guru Maharaj?

During the BPS section class. Mataji. 1 day we will go to the temple. From there we saw the Guru Maharaj. He had given the lecture. So I saw him attracted his lecture. And then I want to choose this guru.

Very good for me in Krishna conscious in Qatar all are in only for I don't know that mother Sannyasis only I know. First I met Jaya Guru Maharaj only in my life. No one know. I don't know because I'm not a degree holder. I'm not. I don't know it's outside anything. So I got married in 17 years. So first my son born 18 years. So 2000 I went to Qatar. So from there my second issue was there. So because of her only we introduced in Krishna consciousness. So she's not well. So but by the time she is crying and she is not well. No. So I introduced in Krishna consciousness I first met the Sannyasi. First Sannyasi is Jaipatak Sahibur Maharaj. And also he is so Patita Pavan. Something is attracted his eyes. I don't know that first met I met Guru Maharaj. So really by the time we are serving some Guru Maharaj and all. Sometimes I am telling Maharaj Maharaj you are always degrading me. I am not Maharaj. I am Guru Maharaj. You know Guru Maharaj told like that. So I am telling is 2004 like that. So 2007 I got initiated in Qatar. Krishna Katadesh Jay Patasami. Guru Maharaj. One day in that initiation time Guru Maharaj is very near to me. Guru Maharaj is here. I just sat near the Guru Maharaj. So Guru Maharaj just holding and touching my head. I really surprised who is touching. So Guru Maharaj is touching what happened? I see he gave one plate and that rice and that till and all are there. So he told give me also he is telling. So he put and put it in the Agnya and all. I am so attracted to Guru Maharaj by the time because I am so closer to Guruji Guru Maharaj like that even me now also I am just taking that photos and all that collagen big size in my hall is there like that. He's very Patita Pawan, you know. I don't know what is that attraction. I don't know. But I likes Guru Maharaj very much. Even any time of circumstances I will just tell my Guru Maharaj name. Even just remembering also corner everything that also is there. And our senior devotees all disciples in only for Guru Maharaj. So I don't know other now after that only I know Siskan very well. And later only knows so many sanyasis are there Prabhupada. Later only knows Prabhupada. So not more like that. So really enjoyed Krishna consciousness. By the time. Now I came 15 years before. Not 15 years. 13 years before came to Chennai. Now also it's touching. All the devotees here like JPS Guru Maharaj disciple. So happy.

Can you tell us the initiation how was it?

Was in 2019. I am from that Sri Vaishnavapram Srivaishwaparambara. So first time when I told told my mother you are in Sri Vaishnava Parambara. So you have your daughter also. So they will think differently. Why do you take the initiation from the Ka Consciousness? They ask me. But all the devotees they encourage me lot. Nothing else. Just what you are going, you are doing to 16 round chanting. You are doing to Prasadam also. Whatever service you are doing, you are going to the same thing. You do it. So the devotee's motivation I got lot from. That's why I got initiation 2019. Now I am very very happy. The Ka consciousness I love it very much. Because it's a precious one in my life. Because outside there are lot of people there. So they didn't come. But I got the opportunity to come here to chant Krishna's name. I think this is a precious one for me. Of course. Yeah.

In my life you remember Guru Maharaj giving your name?

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Guru Maharaj had given Vijay Vaijayanti Mataji also name he had given. Then I met him so many times. And during the festival time he came here. I met him lot of times. He is too messy. He is too messy. I have told he is messy. When I see him also I will forget my sorrows. Okay. Because when I go to the temple, if I do the service and mingle with the devotees, we are forgetting our sorrows also. We are fully Concentrate on that. Krishna's. That is service only. That service only we are concentrating. We forget everything. We are forgetting. That is very interesting for me. That's why.

My initiation is also in. Me and my Prabhu. Both are took together. Only we took that initiation in Qatar only. Guru Maharaj is so good. He is very gigantic. I told you know, he is very near to me. I am near to him. Sorry, I am near to him. Very happily we took that initiation. Guru Maharaj asking, what's your name? Nirmala. You already initiated. Nirmala means. You know what's the meaning? It's pure. Pure is Nirmala. Okay. Like that he told okay, your name is Nikunsha Radhika Devidasi. One day that day is so happy. That day because everyone is asking Nikonja, Nikonja. Oh, something is singing song backside and one more is singing. Something is singing. So that day is so happy. Because night 7:30 it took time for initiation. So whole day we are fasting not at all getting tired and all. Because otherwise sometimes we are not that much fasting and all. Egadeshi day only it's a weekly ones. So that day is so happy and so energetic. Really that day is very happy day. That day.

Which year was that?

2007 in Qatar. Because 2008 Guru Maharaj got hurt.

Nagy, you were initiated when Guru Maharaj came for initiation or.

Yeah, Guru Maharaj came for initiation. Morning we went around 7 o'. Clock. He had given initiation around about 1 o'. Clock. It was amazing. You know, many devotees were also surrounding us then. I was very, very happy. There is nowhere to tell, that's all. There was nowhere to tell during the initiation time. So we did lot of bujas and everything, you know. So I love it.

You remember the meaning of your name, Guru Maharaj?

Vijiya, Vaijayanti, Matajay Vijaya means that is meaning Vaijayanti is that is Mala. In Bhagavan, Mala is Vaijayanti.

Any other instruction, Guru Maharaj?

I don't know. I didn't remember.

Last question is the first method after.

Initiation we give some instruction instructions.

Actually when we took that initiation after four years only Chester got introduced in Krishna consciousness. After four years only we got that initiation. By the time we didn't finish our first canto. So let's do a third cant. Three chapter, four chapters only I finished. So he told, within one year you have to finish the first canto of Bhagavatam. Okay, Guru Maharaj. Sure, Guru Maharaj. So Guru Maharaj till now ladies only. And we are so so happy that everything is good.

Anything is actually. Actually before the initiation also we got the instruction. We have to finish pascanto. And we have to read this. This books also we have to read. So we finish everything also. That's why we got initiation also.

Very nice.

Any memory you went to Mayo?

I went to Mayapuriya. One time I went there I saw that the deities, you know. So it was. And the deities are. I feel that Bhagawan is in front of us. I feel like that Bhagavan is in front of us. And many devotees are chanting Hare Krishna mantra. It look like Gologla Vrindavanam. Other than that it look like Gologla Vrindavanam. It is motivating me too much. I have to chant very well also. I have to do lot of service to Krishna also. Then I want to come to once again come to Mayapur also. Feels like that for me.

You saw Guru Maharaj there.

I didn't see Guru Maharaj there only here only I saw him. Last time I went to Puri Puri Puri Puri Puri. I went there. During that time he visited there also. So I saw him there.

Any memory in Puri with Guru Maharaj.

Guru Maharaj says that when you do chanting, you know you have to do chanting. If you do chanting that is in your mind means you are in that material world. If you do chanting, that means little bit loudly means. That means you are doing for selfish. If you do chanting loudly means there is other living entities also hear the chanting. So he told to all the devotees.

I went to Mayapur three times, four times Mataji. So actually I have. I took my daughter to Guru Maharaj because she is a cerebral palsy patient. My daughter C.P. patient. So I want to meet every time for to meet Guru Maharaj. To touch her hand means she will be okay. Because of that every time whenever going to meet Guru Maharaj in airport also meet Guru Maharaj. I took my daughter. Please Guru Maharaj. He will never hesitate. You just ask her to touch that hand. My daughter's hand, right hand. It's really is pleasure to me. Because no one is to heal that Guru Maharaj only even she is not at all. She's aspiring only not shifted also. So many times I want to go. They just thinking only because the lotus building. Because Guru Maharaj got that sickness and all. So we have to be very serious and all. So by the time went to Guru Maharaj easily we met Guru Maharaj. So you just on the way. He just touched that my daughter hand and he blessed her hair. So that is very good. And one more experience there in Guru Mayapur 70th birthday. I think for Guru Maharaj. The day we went Guru Maharaj.

That.

Time what I know I took my sister sister in law. And one more sister in law. Two sister in law. I just got him first time. So. So I took some jasmine flowers, lotus flowers from here. So we have to make like that. So we went to that flight and one dropping place was there. So that time one Guru Maharaj caravan was there. So asking your. You're just following us and. No, no, no. Prabhuji is not good also we are not qualified to follow you. Just we also came for the restroom and all we just met. So by the time also I have that jasmine flower and all. So if possible means I can give. No, no. I don't want to disturb Guru Maharaj. Basically because very night time. So tomorrow is Vyasa Puja. And also don't disturb. So what I did yesterday and next day in our room we make rose petals. Rose petals just binding. And we make one mala. That special mala. I only made me and my sister in law. I just thinking. Oh hi. O Krishna. I don't know this much crowd is there. How the mala is going to Guru Maharaj. I don't know how it will be reached. I'm just worried about that mala will reach or not. But next within our two hours. I just took that mala and Gambir Madhu Prabhu was there in with the Guru Maharaj servant. So he was in Krishna Katadesh. So just I gave Prabhu. If possible just to give Guru Maharaj she lotus feet or your hand also.

It's possible.

Okay Mataji. No problem. So I gave that mala to Prabhu. Prabhu, I didn't offer. No problem. I'll just offer to just Jagannath photo and all. So he just gave. And he came within five minutes fastly. And he. He told me, you know Mataji, you are first Mala only Guru Maharaj about that. Because he came from that lift. So on the way Guru Maharaj he put that mala. I'm so happy. That day is really I blessed with Guru Maharaj. Because intention is I want to put that mala too. So Guru Maharaj accept that that also is next day is very auspicious. Next day what will do? One Prabhu came suddenly. Mataja, I want to give one prasadam to you. Really Prabhu. What prasadam? We are Leaving in a time of Prabhuji. The flight will go. Okay. Okay. Wait Mataji. Two minutes he came and two minutes back. Mataji, this mala is given to you. This is Guru Maharaj Prasadam. Really? I just opened that. That same mala only came to me next day. It was so awesome.

Really?

Why Mataji? Because more malas are there. More malas are there. He told me that Guru Maharaj gave this mala to one more Maharaj. So he want that person Purushottan Prasad like that or that Prabhu name. So he went to the Taobai senses to that Maharaj. And he gave that mala to that Prabhu. And that Prabhu is next day gave it to me the same mala. Really? I'm so happy. I took that mala into my house. I'm so happy that day. Because he is what we are thinking. He is reciprocating. Really. I am so happy on that day that mala was blessings. Thank you, Mataji.

Mataji, can you tell us about.

How.

You see Guru Maharaj following Srila Prabhupada instructions. How Guru Maharaj is doing what Prabhupada.

Told him to do? What happened?

Prabhupada instructions.

Prabhupada instructions. So we have to do chanting. And daily we have to do preaching something. Preaching to other people also.

Maybe you can explain in the mean.

That what.

Guru Maharaj is doing?

Doing now what Roba? Yeah.

What I have told.

How he is following. Oh, you tell.

Okay.

He is always dedicated to the Krishna Karthaj. He is all over the world. See, he is not well also. He is all over the world. He is doing preaching also. And he is giving lecture also. And he is going to all places. He is having lot of health problem Also he is doing preaching. So these things we have to learn from him. If he is not well also he is doing everything. So the same way we have to do the chanting and do preaching and do the service. Everything we have to do. So this is the thing I learn from him. Dedication. Whatever the Guru says he is following. That's.

Every month Mataji second week JPS meeting will go here. Last time also Sri Lanka Prabhu told Guru Maharaj in this condition he is following more duties. And all his lecture he is listening. One year one lecture. Sorry, one meeting. And he is also hearing one meeting. So. So how much his dedication. So 16 meetings all around the world. That JPs also. GCB also GBC also. And he is doing more. No Mataji. Even what will tell the squirrel. Like a squirrel. We are Doing nothing is done. I am not at all doing anything for Guru Maharaj. Just always thinking Guru Maharaj that is my duty. Otherwise I am not doing. Because I am inspiring. Now we all inspiring for Guru Maharaj's dedication in this condition. Because Guru Maharaj was one year in Chennai. He took a treatment and all. So my son know every day night he will go he will do some massage to Guru Maharaj. That Madri Kannamani Madhaji is helping. So he instructed. She instructed to my son. So every day. Because from him to that place is 40 kilometers nearly. So after his college time he will come back and he will take car and he will go night two o' clock only he will be returned back. So that also I'm thinking like a Guru Maharaj. Cow is very that time he's not able to sleep. He will sleep or not he'll doing massage. And so how much he is dedicating to life his life. Not to all because of us. Because of us. So what is better just decided we have to save the whole life in our family members knows very well. They are supporting us. But they are not coming. That that much purity is there with me. I don't know they will come.

Something you want to tell Maharaj?

Oh Krishna always need his blessings. Only Mataji always always need his blessings. And one day I went that Maharaj room that I am not able to go outside. Only I was there one Prabhu. Only introducing Sri is Nikunja Radia. She interested to teach Bhagavad Gita. And slow has two children. So suddenly Guru Maharaj just three times he shouted. See even everyone is seeing me next day. Even this after two years, three years that Prabhu was seeing me. And he's telling oh Nikunja. Nikunja Nikunja. Because Guru Maharaj told you a name like that. Because it's very impressive. So always that is also very blessed. Only that blessings always is there. And I just want to ask one thing. Only for Guru Maharaj. Please bless me. I want to join how to develop our Ka consciousness to preach everyone. Because I don't know that much knowledge and all. But like a school I will do definitely and always. I want to please miss me to do devotional Vaishyama Saivas always that's not.

Only.

Always need blessings. Thank you so much. Mataji. I want to say something.

Yes. See I am asking blessing from him. Because I want to do lot of service to Krishna consciousness. So without any trouble, without any hindrance anything I want to do service to so that is the important thing for me after lifelong. I want to do this one. I want to do chanting. I want to do everything. I want to preach others also. My aim is to bring other people also come to the Ka consciousness. So how we are in that? The material world is full of sorrows. So I want to tell them to come to the Ka conscious to go away from this Sagar Kadal material world. That is the main thing for me. I try my level best. So Guru Maharaj had to bless me lot. Hare Krishna Mataji. Thank you very much. Mataji. Thank you very much.

You are doing very good.

Nice.

We are because we are introducing to Guru Maharaj. We are so closer to Guru.